Unironically we need to go back to scouting bodybuilders from gyms and bouncers from strip clubs

>>21488452
This was Lex at his least fit.

>>21488452
I miss the meatheads and the fat guys
Why did we trade the dimes for the dimeless?

>>21488452
Nah, big steroid guys are absolutely balls when it comes to high flying, flips, and awesome reversals. To me that's what wrestling's all about.

>>21488550
I'm more mad at you for thinking this bait was any good

>>21488556
Kek, as you should be.

Lex always fucking sucked, he also had one of the worst finishers of a time.

>>21488518
>>21488546
when people say shit like "wrestling needs to start recruiting from XYZ again", they fail to understand that the current generation of young men grew up staring at screens all day. current day bodybuilders are autistic zoomer manosphere looksmaxxers and/or openly gay. current day bouncers are retarded third world immigrants.
the oldest zoomers are 30 now. we don't have charismatic freaks just walking around like we did in the 80s. nobody even smokes or drinks anymore.
young athletes are all ipad babies and grew up in a rich kid social striver bubble pushed by their insane helicopter parents. cool working class guys who flunked out of college football don't exist like they used to.
TL;DR time passed you fucking retards, the world changed

>>21488615
I'm sorry your local area sounds like such a shithole, must be tough being from Commiefornia

>>21488636
Your obvious /pol/tard need to politicize everything aside, where was the lie in what he said? You can see it everywhere if you take the time to step off your farm, anon.

>>21488615
This, even the most popular MMA guys are sub-200 manlets.
People just have to accept the wrestlers of today are smaller and it's all we're ever getting anymore
Also hardcore wrestling fans have no patience or attention span and just want spotfests

>>21488452
No because im not gay

>>21488452
Yes
I miss wrestlers looking like they could beat me up
I miss action movie heroes who looked the same way
But we're not getting that anymore
>>21488615
>Nobody smokes or drinks anymore
Well that's not the worst thing, but you're dangerously naive if you think drugs are gone from wrestling altogether

>>21488615
>current day bouncers are retarded third world immigrants.
Sounds like perfect foreign heels though

>>21488615
theyre also not pumping themselves full of roids and dying at age 40 anymore. im not saying PEDs are totally gone but the amount of drugs people put into their bodies 30 years ago vs today is night and day

>>21488701
>not pumping themselves full of roids
That's absolutely a lie, they're not pumping themselves with horse hormones but the fitness scene is absolutely loaded with steroids and influencers who are obviously on steroids

>>21488615
>young athletes are all ipad babies and grew up in a rich kid social striver bubble pushed by their insane helicopter parents.
This, those types of people let their parents dictate even their adult lives.

>>21488615
>roid freaks aren't popular anymore because everybody is gay
Or because everyone who remotely follows professional fighting has seen 6'9 roided monsters gas out in 3 minutes then get knocked out by some dude half their size
It's not 1990, everybody knows what roids are and that they're just for shows when abused to that degree
plus roids and performance enhancers got mad bad rep from literally every somewhat legitimate sport to the wider mainstream audience
Nobody is in awe of those physiques anymore because everyone automatically assumes it's cheating and useless

What happened to real men?

>>21488838
Those types gas out typically because their cardio when training is piss poor, but it's also traditionally why guys didn't do the cruiserweight style of wrestling - wrestling was always about getting maximum traction out of very little.
Literally this year's G1 finale was an example of how it should be done.
Instead everyone wants to be the next Jeff Hardy/AJ Styles/Rey Mysterio, except they do it extremely poorly because they don't posses the talent those guys did.

>>21488846
Blackrock and Silver Lake decided men needed to be domesticated

>>21488846
The WEF

>>21488863
The 3-3-3 rule exists for a reason, only a dumbass wouldn't do it
Vince usually liked his roid monsters but if they couldn't promo and got gassed early then he usually threw them away

>>21488863
>because their cardio when training is piss poor,
no, it's because 6'5 300 pounds of pure muscle just drains so much oxygen you can do all the cardio in the world and you'll still gas out faster than a lighter (but still heavyweight) build
That's why nobody takes roid freaks seriously anymore, it just doesn't work in actual fighting, most guys in MMA who got caught doing roids didn't overdo it, aside from like Overeem you couldn't tell right off the bat they were on it

if you go by workrate, classic pro wrestling had guys with all sorts of bodytypes up until the 80s and Vinnie Mac's gay obsessions with roids
I think for the most part the physiques of top guys in WWE are okay, the over theatrical work is the problem outside of a few really solid guys like Gable or Gunther for instance (who literally have two different examples of the perfect wrestler's body and likely without abusing too many PEDs)

>>21488930
Vince's obsession with fitness ruined Gunther because they forced him on that shitty regimen that's ruin his body

>>21488930
>pure muscle just drains so much oxygen
Also women aren't attracted to muscles of any kind at all
Muscularity grosses women out

>>21488956
I think he's still okay honestly, he looked better fatter but he still looks threatening, as long as he keeps muscle mass he's got that weird tall lanky frame so that makes him stand out a lot

>>21488965
they like muscle but with some fat on top of it

>>21488975
Wrong
Women like dad bods

>>21488966
He should've stood his ground like a man and told Vince to fuck off
I want fat Gunther back

>>21488981
yeah as long as you got big arms with it
the dyel skinnyfat bod is rightfully icky

>>21488729
they're using better, cleaner roids than they did back then

No, cause Brian Cage proved you can have a great body, and still work like a midget.

>>21488993
there ain't much difference on long term health, it's all about how you take em and how much, and some fitness guru retards and kids who follow their dumbfuck advice have no idea what they're doing

>>21488863
Also because they've had traditionally shitty wrestling trainers
Why do you think only four guys came out of OVW in the 2000s where countless others failed?
OVW was a shit training facility with shit trainers who couldn't produce a single talent if they needed to
Cena, Randy, Batista, and Brock succeeded in spite of their training, not because of it.

>>21489001
Brian Cage himself is 5'8 at his tallest

>>21488664
>Well that's not the worst thing, but you're dangerously naive if you think drugs are gone from wrestling altogether
jesus fucking christ. the point is that communally experienced vices like smoking and alcohol was a major factor in socializing the kind of carny bar brawler types who thrived in past generations of pro wrestling. unlike say, blasting THC carts in your basement while playing GTA or taking ozempic or w/e. it's not about the health aspect of substance abuse.
>>21488691
>Sounds like perfect foreign heels though
the "foreign villain" archetype is becoming increasingly anachronistic in a country where like half the population is foreign born
>>21488645
>>21488838
and it's not about the size or the physiques nor the in-ring styles of the wrestlers. that, again, is missing the forest for the trees
the PERSONALITY TYPES of the past performers you long to bring back are barely present in the current generation and no longer thrive in the avenues they used to scout these people from (football etc) because those industries (gasp) changed over time

>>21489006
WWE notoriously shot talent in the foot as soon as they moved from the main roster.

>>21489011
That's most giants' shoot height.

>>21489006
>Cena, Randy, Batista, and Brock succeeded in spite of their training, not because of it.
lol they succeeded because Vince pushed them and that's that
Brock and Cena would have always made it but Laurenaitis kept calling up to WWE guys that the OVW trainers said were the complete shtis and not ready just becasue they had roided physiques, your shit's all retarded

>>21489013
the personality types of the past performers are literally the ones they don't recruti anymore because they don't want the headaches
gee I wonder how the freebirds would fare in modern day WWE

>>21489015
>>21489022
That's on the trainers, not management.
Management rightfully said sink or swim and who's fault is it that trainees couldn't find something that works? The people who were supposed prepare them

>>21489026
Ask yourself how long Bruiser Brody would be in WWE or AEW if he debuted today, basically

>>21489030
dude Laurenaitis came in several times, asking Cornette and others to rank the guys and every single time he picked the ones that were dead last simply because of the physique
WWE fell off completely the minute he got in charge of talent recruitment, bodies is all he was looking for

>>21489033
If Brody was making WWE or AEW lots of money and putting asses in seats? They'd let him do whatever the fuck he pleased just like the territory promoters did

>>21489033
Yeah I mean even without going to that extreme the "average" 80s territory wrestler is today just a craftsman or a construction worker somewhere
they just don't look for guys like that anymore, and guys like that just don't ever consider wrestling as a profession because they don't have a local territory professional show nearby that might give them the idea. wrestling on TV is kinda gay and show biz, and indie wrestling is just gay.

>>21489045
And why were those guys dead last? Sounds like the shit training in that redneck shithole wasn't up to snuff

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Fat guys who were strong but athletic were the peak of wrestling.

>>21489072
cause they couldn't work yet and they couldn't talk
again your shit's all retarded

>>21489033
Brody didn't trust promoters or bookers in general so there's no shot he'd work in WWE if he debuted today
AEW...again I don't think he'd trust that Tony put wrestlers in EVP positions

>>21489072
lol how do you think ranking works?

>>21489045
Yup, or they would be playing some sort of basic, marketable character, and then get called up to be a terrorist, a cheerleader, or sex slaves to a large black woman.

>>21489105
How do you think training works?

>>21489045
Also think of all the fitness models he hired
For every Trish or Torrie Wilson you had ten Kelly Kellys

>>21489134
yeah he picked them off straight from lingerie magazines lol

>>21489116
That everyone develops at their own pace and not everyone starts at the same time, you fucking mark.

>>21489143
>Picking your women's wrestling roster based off which fitness or swimsuit model gave you a stuffy
Fucking BASED
I'd be lying if I ever said I wouldn't do that exact same thing

>>21488615
>nobody even smokes or drinks anymore.
based, truly an evolved society

>>21489143
Isn't this how joshi are recruited? Basically looking at girls with floundering gravure careers?

>>21489162
problem is, he wasn't running a lingerie magazine

>>21489189
If they can't wrestle you transition them to valets or ring girls or something
Too bad nowadays WWE is likely way too pussy to have ring girls

>>21488452
It made wrestling unique
Now the wrestlers just look like normal people and it's pretty lame
When they tried replacing hot people in movies with just normal looking fucks it made actors stop being unique
I don't get the modern trend of trying to destroy the uniqueness of facets of society