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Men: Destroy the world
Men: this is women's fault, time to punish them
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>>84619771
Whats even your point?
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>>84619771
Oh no, a bunch of restaurants providing food to human beings, and gasoline for automobiles.
We should have rolling green hills and shit instead
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>>84619786
"It's a mans world"
"Men built civilization"
and
"I feel like we both did our bit"
Choose one.

It's a retarded violent patriarchal system that did all of this and men are acting like women are to blame and getting angry at them.
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>>84619824
There has been studies by political scientists recently, studying whether female leaders have a higher or lower propensity for violence. The most Ukraine war skewed the data that being female doesn't stop you from declaring war
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>>84619771
>time to punish them
Yes and?
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>>84619818
https://youtu.be/KOjKVA3qF_0?si=2tSDivTWMM8Rukzs
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Women: Create nothing
Women: despite curing infectious disease and creating enormous abundance medieval peasants could only dream of, the world still isn't 100% perfect because someone built a truck stop over some pretty grass and trees and I was raped by the 'jeets I voted for, this is the fault of white male patriarchy
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Behind every male felon is a female single mom
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>>84619915
What percentage of Canada is unlivable?
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>>84619915
What percentage of Australia is unlivable?
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>>84619824
Based.
I dont know if im turning into a radfem, but i thought about it. Men and women , masculinity and femeninity are in a constant tug of war. Women, mother nature, represent the subjective, lenient and ever changing. Men, the sky father, represents the objective, rigid and stagnant. Women are closer to nature than men, we are a vessel through wich mother nature acts. Our body is not made with our self in mind, its made with nurturing others and continuing the species in mind. Men are given more biological agency than us when you think about it. Thats why women cant be as evil as men, nor can they be as selfish. From a biological perspective, women are nurturing, we are nature. Men are self serving, they only care for their own, they are civilisation. Men are capable of the most heinous acts, women arent, if there isnt a man in the picture. Civilation seeks to conquer nature, just like men seeks to conquer women. But civilisation falls, nature always persists, and without nature, civilisation cant be. Women come from women, but men also come from women. We are given creative powers men arent. So men cope with creating tools and systems and what not. Women are born makers, we are born benefiting this world, man have to earn thay glory. But if they cant earn it, they will put down womens value as makers. They will say women are too emotional and lenient, they will say pregnancy isnt even painful, that her body isnt doing wonders. But men are rigid and apathetic. Too much of the masculine becomes oppression, too much of the femenine becomes frivolousness/too free. But nature, and mankind, when you think about it, is free and frivolous, but with imminent laws playing beneath the surface. Humanity can do without the masculine, but it cant do without the femenine. Because the femenine is our natural state.
You catching my drift?
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>>84620047
I should have maybe expanded what I mean with mankind and nature being frivolous and free. I mean as in it has underlying laws, but it kinda does what it does. There is logic to what she does, but the logic doesn't pretain to truth. It pertains to tendencies, to flow of actions. Nature acts, she doesn't act according to some moral codex, but according to the laws of natural selection. Even then, nature is a bit obscure. The goal isn't creating value, it isnt finding or flowing truth, but rather to continue the undying change.
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>>84620047
Until the modern era with AI and drones, a squad of physically fit loyal determined men was the most powerful force in the world. They could fell the mighty mammoth, they could build wonders, they explored the world, the only hope of defeating them was to have your own squads, but even so these defeated men might fight as guerrillas in the hills indefinitely until you tire of the expense and try to negotiate with them. It was in this way that tribes and nations survived and prospered and in time a cluster of tribes in Europe built the modern world.

Then you have women. Humans are turbo K-selective, and so man falls in love with a woman and women get finnicky about sex, because if a man catches her with another man he won't help her during her vulnerable pregnancy or help her vulnerable infant. Unlike other animals, childbirth is very dangerous and infants are basically helpless for years. Much of our evolution actually revolved around proving value to the squad of warrior hunters that obtained the limited resources of the brutal natural world and decided who lived or died. It is why women exhibit display behavior whereas in other animals it is usually the male that sings and dances for a mate.

Men are the only real humans. Men have only vestigial versions of men's attributes, they share our genes, they develop a neo-cortex and opposable thumbs, perhaps some women had a function in tribal society, pounding manioc into flour as a source of calories or whatever, but without men they'd be finished. A woman's role is literally a walking womb with human characteristics. Women are half-men. Women are not what make us human, you are right, they are closer to nature, this is why women seem so confused by men's obsessions and frustrated by us. It is why women don't care about the roman empire, trains and whatever nerdy thing ensnares men's minds. They have no competitive nature, they have no inquisitive nature.
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>>84619942
>Create nothing
Yeah partially because they were oppressed by the retarded violent patriarchal system.

>Not 100% perfect
This is literally a 1984-esque hellscape if you haven't realized it yet.

>pretty grass and trees
you mean native plants we and the environment/probably thousands of other animal species depended on and also has numerous medicinal properties.
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>>84620280
Your mom should have selectively aborted you as a male fetus in the womb.
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>>84620280
Okey but you were kinda catching my drift.
We kinda agree, men are more inclined towards reason, they are selfish and care for their own, they have more biological agency. Men are at constant struggle to subdue women. Men are civilisation. Women are nature.
But you are sayin man is the real human, which is false. Mankind is a part of nature, thus the gender closest to nature is the most human of sorts. I dont believe in this who is more human bullshit, but whatever. What I do care about is that men, like you said, have to provide for the tribe. Woman doesn't, because she is provision in and of herself. Men have to make up for not having the inate value women have. Men have to make up for not being makers and sustainers such as women. Men have to make up for not being a woman.
And like I said, when men cant make up for it, they will lower the value of the miracles women conduct. Because if he cant be as useful as the woman, he has to convice himself that the woman isnt useful. Not the other way around. Because all actions a man does, pales in comparison to child rearing.
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>>84620047
All your claims are based off biological essentialism, which defeats the purpose of valuing subjectivity.
We are subjects because we vanquish nature's limitations, not because we're closer to it. You sound no different from an dirt-munching druid who lets the mosquitoes bite them and spread diseases because they're 'just as valuable'.

Worse, by equating women to nature, gou're basically animalizing them, then using some new age bullshit to justify why that's actually good.
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>>84619771
Men created the world tho, women are just freeloaders.
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>>84620282
>Yeah partially because they were oppressed by the retarded violent patriarchal system.
More than 100 years of feminism yet they haven't come with any useful, women are just the parasitic slave gender. Better accept it fast.
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>>84620376
>Because all actions a man does, pales in comparison to child rearing.
women dont do that anymore
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>>84620376
>Mankind is a part of nature, thus the gender closest to nature is the most human of sorts
That's satanic. Quite literally luciferanism: to value the created over the creator.
Humanity comes from nature and moves AWAY from it, you stupid druid. You say masculinity is stagnant, yet you stagnate humanity to nature just to validate women, levelling the field down rather than up.

People: if you haven't noticed already, this demon is spreading misandry and brainwashing men into killing themselves.
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>>84620376
Women have killed more children than people have died in wars combined.
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>>84620400
Ah..
Good feedback. It was a thought.
I dont know much about biological essentials, I was just giving out my thoughts. You have any books on this matter? Id like to expand my thoughts around this.

Well it might look like I am animalizing women, but humans are animals no? Women are closer to what we are in our essence, i see that as a positive thing.

Its all a thought though anon. Take it lightly
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>>84620427
>say masculinity is stagnant,
If masculinity was stagnant we'd be still living in stone age not modern cities and this foid probably won't have her phone to type her shit too.
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>>84620448
Good is not nice. You have to be ashamed of saying disgraceful shit like that instead of softening it up with 'just a thought'. Your thoughts have consequences on those you're aiming them for. If you can't see how injust and inhumane you were being with that post, then you don't deserve anything lightly.

Notice how you backed off when the implication of your argument was that men were less human than women were? That's how coward you are.
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>>84620450
Im an esl. Forgive me, maybe conservative is a better word?
>>84620426
Im talking about in theory
>>84620427
I mean sure its going to sound satanic, because nature is a subject to be conquered. We wnt from worshipping mother earth to sky father. Ofcourse the opposite of sky father is seen as satanic. Thats why christians went so hard against natural pagan religions with shamans and what not.
>>84620442
Abortion isnt necessarily evil.
Also, the crimes comitted by men far exeeds the ones committed by women.
Holy shit I looked up the number of abortions just now, what the hell? Crazy numbers.
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>>84620496
>Abortion isnt necessarily evil.
It's evil cause it's mostly caused due to irresponsibility and too much self importance, yes women who get raped should get abortions but they're at most 10 % of the actual abortions, majority of abortions are done by women who love doing casual sex knowing it can get them pregnant and then killing their kid cause they're too self important and out of convience which is evil in it's purest form.
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>>84620477
Well freedom of speech is a thing, of course i can express my thoughts. I read threads saying women arent human all the time, nobody reacts about that though. I think youre being a bit sensitive, it wasnt that deep.
>Notice how you backed off when the implication of your argument was that men were less human than women were? That's how coward you are.
Not a coward, i mean if you look at the very first post, i said i might be turning radfem and that I was thinking about it. Not a coward really. I think i stated it all pretty clearly.
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>>84620526
>read threads saying women arent human all the time
You should go to twitter or other social Media where man hate posts get 500k to 1 million likes, 4chan pales in comparison to them. Main reason why a lot of young men now think islam is right about women like you.
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>>84620517
I doubt it actually. At max half are just due casual sex. The other half is probably due to some nasty circumstances. Most of them are peobably due to being in an unfavourable position.
Like ruining honour, unsafe enviorment, honourkillings, teen pregnancy yada yada you get the picture.
ALSO, abortion can mean miscarriages and other shit that doesnt necessarily mean culling a fetus.
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>>84620591
Misscarriages aren't caused by going to a doctor and getting your baby plucked out.
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>>84620591
You can tell women are evil when thier biggest concern is their right kill children rather than the betterment of their country. Keep doing shit like this and the 19th amendment will be repealed.
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>>84619942
Corporate slavery, you cant ever fully leave the system and if you do the feds come knocking to shoot your dog
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>>84620563
Habibi its just a thought. Take it lightly. Im not necessarily right about it, its speculative. I believe i made that clear from the begining.
>Main reason why a lot of young men now think islam is right about women like you.
Funny you say because i was a hardcore muslim at one point. Islam from the outside seems like misogynist heaven, but even islam indicates women have an inate higher position than men because of child rearing, like mothers are inately more valuable than fathers, but that women subsequently arent as reasonable (like women cant be a judge of a matter alone, she has to have another woman. Two women = one man court wise)
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>>84620633
>women have an inate higher position than men because of child rearing, like mothers are inately more valuable than fathers,
Is that why they allow men to marry 4 wives? that would mean the man is more valuable cause there's a surplus of women that they're marrying 4 of them to one man.
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>>84619818
Also its gotta be stressful on a biological level to live in a city without any natural resources for survival nearby..like a freshwater stream to drink from or bathe in..native plants to eat..native game. There is no village. there is no walkability. just stuck in a house in a suburban neighborhood.
The food is also poisoned.
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>>84620613
>the 19th
Ahahahaha this made me laugh out loud.

Abortions arent morally abominable in and of itself. I still take an islamic view on this, as i was a hsrdcore muslim for a long time, that abortion depends on how far in the pregnancy it is, the reasoning, the mothers and the childs condition.
If woman die, its okey in all cases.
Cases can be made or severe disability and potentkal death in child or severe problems and potential death for woman.
Pro lifers and pro choicers are both very retarded imo. The correct answers is that it depends on the situation. If death is in the picture, its excusable. Of rape or severe complications are in the picture, it can be considered. If its due to unwanted pregnancy, thats not excusable.
>>84620680
Well ya men have 4 wives. Now, within the faith women are seen as unreasonable or at least less reasonable. But women are also a treasure? As in she can be a means for your heaven (daughters), and it is said that heaven lies under your mothers feet. When we are talking the moral codex, women are generally treated as second class and the faith itself is male centered.
Women are seen as unreasonable, religiously and perhaps even intellectually lower than men, but she id still valuable kinda. You get it?
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>>84620720
>Islamic heaven
Don't they get 72 virgin women to fuck eternity or something? I don't think I'd wanna associate that with my mother really.
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>>84620746
I mean yes they do, then again it kinda goes into it being male centered, it describes benefits for men in details, but nothing for women. Yet women may also get 72 virgin males. You can get whatever on heaven really

Why am i degending islam lmao, i still find myself defending it even though i technically speaking left? Wtf
The hardcore muslim tendencies are ingrained i suppose.
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>>84620713
> ..like a freshwater stream to drink from or bathe in..

Have you ever drunk from or bathed in a stream? It's rather awful, anon. There's a reason why people would haul buckets of water back to their house, before indoor plumbing.
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>>84620803
True you never know there's a dead animal or human upstream making it unsafe for use.
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that's not the same land, and roads and food are good actually.
If women had to go one year with out their le travel and le iPhones, le clothes shopping, and le imported food, they would lose their minds.
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>>84620803
No but I see nothing wrong with it. Im talking about obviously clean freshwater streams or rivers. Human populations are supposed to spring up around places with a natural water source. Living where there is no natural water or food sources nearby probably stresses our animal brains out even if we don't know it.

Although the fact that humans are way less adapted to drinking from natural bodies of water on earth probably says something about humans/civilization. We are like a weak, domesticated GMO plant that lost survival ability.
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>>84619771
STOP POSTING BURGERPUNK!!!!!!!!!!
IT'S A 100 MILE STRETCH, IT'S LITERALLY A TRUCKSTOP EXIST!

Look here's a sideview.
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>>84620420
She didn't even reply anymore cuz she knows it's true and can't refute it kek
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>>84619771
civilization is for women and nature is for men
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>>84621694
Because I already argued with like 6 other guys that said the same things in the past few days.

We will see how long it lasts that moids are the "creators" now that women have equal rights to education, income, property, etc. Thousands of years of subjugation won't be undone in 100 years. It's also insane because the y chromosome is like an aberrant parasite on the x chromosone and women literally built every man that exists with her body.
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>>84621694
Always remember: There are such a thing as all-female species. There is no such thing as all male species, proving moids are the parasites.



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