>>84649638
I just know that INTPs are objectively superior and all other types are subhuman.

>What is your MBTI type?
INTJ 5w4
>Can you name a book?
Dostoyevsky - Notes from underground
>(Optional) Is manga literature?
No, it is a type of comic which i used to read
>(Optional) What is the real reason you spend all your time playing video games?
I don't
P.S. Get the flag off the wall it looks ridiculous

>>84649663
No it's gootta be ready for Gay Pride starting next week, we only have so many hours in a year to pay public employees, it's coming back down in October in time for us to put up the Halloween decorations if ever.

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Nao
There's the blogposter we need, no ifs/ands/or buts && do yet preserve. And persevere in life because true love is real and Self-justified by everyone but delulu solipsists'

>>84649679
Seems to be stained over on the left side, maybe some kind soul can donate you a picture of a rainbow

>>84649679
*Sorry, I meant SPECIFICALLY GAY MEN PRIDE, please forgive me University chairman, or whoever it is that's in charge in libraries.

I'm ENTP and I hate women

>[Aoi Tiduru] Ashi ga Suki Nano?
>Yes
>To keep my internal monologue shut, gaming is the one thing which I can completely focus on and stop caring about anything else, probably something something gives me an excuse to forever procrastinate while not having the mind to feel like shit for being an underachiever

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>>84649694
Cegorach sez liberry card:
[gladiator comme ce commie saw]

>>84649692
All the full rainbows got used up by the NHS during Covid 19. This is the last pride flag we were given before our budget for woke stuff got cut after October 7th. I'm sorry but all the old ladies are too socially awkward now to knit us a new one out of polyester """woool""". They get all their knitwear on Shein now so their manufacturing capacity has totally atrophied.

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Some decent stuff in the Jung letters collection. Not as good as the 1925 seminar but we got some wild speculah about ESP, relative time/space, microphysics and how intuition ties to them. And Jung bitching about people misunderstanding his stuff a lot lmao
Also found some clarification on the transcendent function, that was probably the simplest explanation.
Also non-typological stuff.

Might drop some fancy stuff at a later time.

>>84649732
Draw it on the paper then
I'll start a company for next year that does this shit (no I won't I'm shit tier 5w4)

ok ok, hang on a minute...

Also lol he straight called out religious people for being unable to activate the T.F. ...

when you realize lil 'yuck only back here to get a new bf, bruh.

Well I mean there's a lot they're not able to do so it's not exactly...

'yuck cant get infja, cant get prince back, lost centy, turbie enjoyer up next lol??

>>84649719
Those are some pretty cool glass sculptures actually. I like the caterpillar mushroom and alice

>>84649850
She wouldn't want Prince back, he was abusive.

xNFs just dont have any shame it seems. Si buries past bad experiences (no learning occurs) then 'lac chooses some new ugly chud

And tried to stab his own mother with a fork, called my dream to start a nonprofit
>gibbes for nwords WHEN I'M SUPPOSED TO BE YOUR ONE AND ONLY SASQUATCH
and that's why sorries weren't enough for Chuck/Berries. I have habibi and that's all, by my own design and rhymeschematics. Defraud harder haters

I only talk to cops to take personal responsibility. You're a snitch and a cowherd. But your mom ain't goldenage Gaulic as mine, Noir Jittles Limited Edish

>>84649638
>>What is your MBTI type?
Last time I took it INTJ almost between J and P
>>Can you name a book?
Streams of Silver
>>(Optional) Is there a scientific paper you'd like to share?
Not really scientific a patent 060606
>>(Optional) Is manga literature?
Yes, read "understanding comics"
>>(Optional) What is the real reason you spend all your time playing video games?
I don't

>>84649663
>P.S. Get the flag off the wall it looks ridiculous
/r9k/ is a tranny occupied board. its grim.

run off to TE ya predictable lady, we already know thats what you wanna do.

>>84649876
>And tried to stab his own mother with a fork, called my dream to start a nonprofit
>>gibbes for nwords WHEN I'M SUPPOSED TO BE YOUR ONE AND ONLY SASQUATCH
>and that's why sorries weren't enough for Chuck/Berries. I have habibi and that's all, by my own design and rhymeschematics. Defraud harder haters

take a 12 inch you know what and post it here or STFU

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>>84649753
Sorry sorry sorry, this strange old man came in and I needed to ask him to take off his shoes because they smelled really bad. He didn't seem to understand why it was a problem. Anyway is this better?

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NOT a canon ship and with a hackieyapped phone and 24/7 surveillance I'mma jus tell you have a nice epoch, ma Belle

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NEETpapa MY captain mkayyyy. Never to fish to get Her
:Yeshua:chOoooOoOOO o snapE I'm allergenic to sussy bakas !

>>84649965
My GOAT was trying to save you from his footstench but of course you people never listen
At least the flag looks better
P.S. had a chuckle at this so good work I guess

those numbers are probably the only thing lilac could do right now to save herass

>>84649999
OMGGG CHECKED LILLITH LAC GIURLS WE ARE SO BACK!!

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Nah Globaldono just know my 11th sage trixx

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All I ask is you finally learn to in2bantz but if you wanna turn this into a
>Y-YEAH WELL M-MUH YOUR THEIR GRRRRAAAAAAGHH REEEE REEE REEE
eat the gray pompompouponcoupon, princhessa

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I think, ya know?
Hah.

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>>84650002
10,000 hours in GIMP. But I actually made most of the image a couple of days ago before I got threadsniped and the real reason I made this one so late was I got held back at work by 3 hours. This was the image that was supposed to tempt patchoulianon back hence the giant patchouli. I'll likely spend more hours after some more books are suggested. One thing I should have done already is change lady Jessica's face to look disgusted at the giant stink lines coming off of dostoevsky's giant anime toes like so. Heheh. Dos-toe-evky. This sort of thing makes me wish I was good at anything so I could actually edit images well, someone's probably already done the joke about that particular dovstoesky images legs at some point though, and I find there's a certain charm to the cutouts anyway.

>>84650157
>You think
I really don't believe you

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>>84650202
Please cite your source.

>>84650210
My source is
(You). Everything you've ever written. Pgs, 1-[as much as you're capable of]

>>84649861
All of her exes were "abusive." There seems to be a pattern, and I don't think it's with the exes.

It would be like that Mr Beast video where a girl's "awful" exes got out on a deserted island together and they all bonded like bros and got along while she was steaming mad the entire time. You know who the problem is

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>>84650233
Ew, that guy? He has no idea what he's talking about 72% of the time. Not a credible source at all.

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Rippen thru the ghey Suns and thotcrime Daughtrievesmuseum puzzlerooms reading list starts
>>who here /here/
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8pnPUUY/

I SUMMON
SHADOW!SLOG BLACK PEARL

>Your type
>Do you think your golden pair type would make a good partner? Platonically? Romantically? In business? Behind proxies in the astral?

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>>84650284
>Your type
INFJ-A
>Do you think
I don't know how to do that.

>>84650284
bruh I knew lilac played that fucking game. I knew it I knew it I knew it.

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>>84650346
[Says hoo, hoo hoo, hoot?]

>Locking them out
>Stuck together like the spellcraft they suxx AT
Ingenious

>>84649638
this shit is just astrology for midwits who think they're too smart for astrology. your little acronyms mean nothing more than mercury's current position relative to saturn or whatever the fuck

>> 84650375
go back to wherever hylic piece of shit

>>84650375
what an enlightening post that has never once been posted in the decade this general has been around

>>84650262
Well that's a shame since I think he's kind of cute

>>84650389
Fuck off Gnostard. Hylic Pride Worldwide! Something gnostshits can't even have a problem with since they don't even like about the world or anything on it lol.

>>84650421
>he's been posting about his gay little acronyms for a decade
that's very embarrassing for you. if i were you i'd kill myself.

>>84650375
This is something I wish more posters here would remind themselves of desu. It's hard to be comfy when there's guys here who insist that this is the key to metareality or some shit and must be taken sooper speshul seriously at all times

MOOOOOM, the sensors are here again

>>84650375
Ily bro fistbump

>>84650451
aaaaaaaand youre broke

so you have no knowledge and no mastery of muh material world either, womp womp!

>>84650375
Very based take. Watching the retards talk a lot about nothing is mildly entertaining, though.

>>84650489
Sensors are 2/3rds of MBTI so you'd best get used to us

>>84650454
i knew about this place in 2016 when i had my r9k phase and did le 16 shit test back then but i only got into mbti properly in like 2023 so yeah idc

>>84650454
seconded.
Its beautiful seeing the maggots writhing for survival in the /trash/ here

>>84650497
That's the difference I suppose, I don't seek to master reality, only live it on its own terms

>>84650362
Quack quack, QAUCK.
What if you find the key, melt it down and use the metal to create a whole new cage?
>>84650434
Yuck! I bet you didn't even know that guy TAKES SHOWERS! Disgusting!

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These threads really should be moved to /trash/. Much more fitting

>>84650523
hey hitler (INFJ) took showers too so they can't be all bad!

>>84650539
But jews also take showers. Did you ever think about THAT? I bet not.

>>84650535
I'd be fine being moved into /trash/ as long as revsaysdesu (pedo freak) dies irl

A bunch of ugly trannies showed up out of nowhere, what gives?

They can smell your stinky ass BUSSY

>>84650535
these threads are like a wafting pile of shit, every reggie here has been bumping and humping /MuhPersonality/ for atleast 10 years. Pushing 30 on r9k of all boards, the 4chan tiktok equivalent.

ugly ass big nosed non-female LMAO

>>84650598
Whoever the fuck decides spending 10 years of energy and awareness on the smelly "Im speshul" should be thrown into a meat grinder so we have something to feed pigs

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Circulate my visage if you're so above the b&hammer, v&boiz bichachoz

>Turbies can't ride/die like the INFJ-Anarchists dare

>>84650545
yeah and next you're gonna say making jews take showers is considered one of the worst things he ever did in canon. but that was because the S(hower)S(quad) was mostly composed of lazy czechoslovakian conscripts by that point in the bakeoff and never wiped the condensation off the wooden doors after they were done which led to BLACK MOULD, condemming generations of Jews to genetic schizophrenia. with modern squeegie technology that unfortunate side effect can be mitigated, snd now showers only release unsafe levels of VOCs into the atmosphere poisoning the air quality of Dehli and other major cities around the world.

>>84650625
kek couldn't agree more, look at all these sexless parasocial marriages. they're all annoying as fuck too

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For all my XNXXuhs!
https://voca.ro/1eD4Jf5hJEIm

Ged ta know thySelves and happy memorial day to all those who endanger their cleanliness to be more Red Letterlike. Jesus Christos loved Judas as a crisis actor who would also be saved for his commitment to the destiny swap bit

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>>84650640
No, no. The Shower Squad saved all the dirty jews from being incels. The Nazi's were helping the Jews by giving them showers and showing them how to do hard labor by moving those big salt sacks around and making them /fit/.
Just think about it, if it wasn't for Hitler and the Shower Squad, the jews would have gone extinct because they were all non-showing-incels.

Zoie's bf was an aboosive Zyzz enjoyer too and that's why Her INTJ stair to best phishing spot sardonic af

>>84650643
Let them waste and rot away in the foul stench of their own urine and excrement, here, in their own little nursing home

happy wiwacorial day!

>> 84650755
someone is BIG mad

>>84650702
Ironically it was sex that spread the genetic schizophrenia through microchimerism, from all the recently christened Chadbbats hitting Europe from the back.

>>84650762
You could at least give him a (You) like a gentleman

Here >>84650755 take mine. Some posters have no manners.

wouldnt be surprised if intjfemboi is legit seething rn

>>84650764
Schizophrenia isn't real, so it's okay. It was an invention by CIA during MK Ultra in order to control people by making them susceptible to having ideas implanted into their heads.

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>>84650809
Finally someone speaking SENSE but it's still only debatable not early thread ded approaching for OWLS ARMED

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>>84650825
SENSE? How dare you accuse me of such blasphemy! I only speak INTUITION!

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>>84650852
Lute you are the commanding occifer for a La Le Lu Li Loson t impacct lmfaaoooo

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First time joining this thread, always thought MBTIs are nancy shit but I'm bored and tipsy
>What is your MBTI type?
INTP-T (what does the T mean?)
>Can you name a book?
My Disillusionment in Russia by Emma Goldman
>(Optional) Is manga literature?
It depends on what do you mean by literature, if words = lit then yeah, but if you name a manga as a book you've read you deserve to get shot
>(Optional) What is the real reason you spend all your time playing video games?
I don't, I waste all my time with bullshit that's much more useless

>>84650789
notice how this was posted and the seething instantly stopped. wow. little pattern detected.

Oh shoot, I have like 10 minutes before bedtime uhhh...

[19] The self-mutilation performed by Tertullian in the sacrificium intellectus led him to an unqualified recognition of the irrational inner reality, the true rock of his faith. The necessity of the religious process which he sensed in himself he crystallized in the incomparable formula anima naturaliter christiana (the soul is by nature Christian). With the sacrificium intellectus philosophy and science, and hence also Gnosis, fell to the ground. In the further course of his life the qualities I have described became exacerbated. When the Church was driven to compromise more and more with the masses, he revolted against it and became a follower of the Phrygian prophet Montanus, an ecstatic, who stood for the principle of absolute denial of the world and complete spiritualization. In violent pamphlets he now began to assail the policy of Pope Calixtus I, and this together with his Montanism put him more or less outside the pale of the Church. According to a report of Augustine, he even quarrelled with Montanism later and founded a sect of his own.

By sacrificing his intellect, as commended by Rabbi Saul like a good Christian, he was lead down the path of accepting something deeper in himself. Christianity is whatever just kinda made sense to him, deep down. Later on he doubled, tripled down, as he was want to do. When the Church started to try and make sense to people he was like "fuck that ree", Joined Mr Montanna's cult and begged to be turned into soul fluid. He tried to get the Pope Swatted and was kicked out of the christcuck discord server for this. Some say he's purity spiraling to this day...

Or something like that. Hopefully I'll have more Jung time tomorrow when I'm in a less contentious mood.

intjbitchboi could just admit he was wrong and come back. maybe people would forgive him for being such a nasty larper

What was he wrong about? He predicted all of this

well hes mostly just mad that lilac came back and stole his thunder. so just resorts to seething anon now. kinda cringe.

Well true, I would prefer a world where they can co-exist however. There's enough thread space for the both of them.

>>84650860
Weewoo weewoo
Put your hands up, you're under arrest!!

>>84650860
UwU im gonna call the cute ambulance on you for being 2 cute hahaaaaa... .hahaha!!

>>84650375
>this shit is just astrology

"Millionaires don't use Astrology, Billionaires do" - JP Morgan

Former Latchkeykid is afraid of women I like Pa2ly best. And he EDC no larper innaforestforthetreefiddies, yknawmeen Ese?

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>>84650860
third eye is anus

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>>84650860
I concur you are adequately claiming my intellectual boogs! For I am the true ma'dame round these parts.

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>>84650860
um where third eye up here?

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I have to go to sleep before it gets too retarded in here

>>84650863
Congratulations! This is a pretty strange time in this general's life to be joining in for a variety of reasons. The 16personalities test uses the BIG 5 personality model and then sort of transfers that over to MBTI letters, since it's the BIG 5 and the MBTI has 4 letters they added T as a stand in for neuroticism. T therefore means high in neuroticism, or negative emotion. Basically it means you respond more to stimuli with negative with feelings like fear or anxiety or emotional pain, the higher your percentage score the more it is. A propsed benefit to this is that you're more sensitive to danger than others and that means you're more likely to gtfo before things get really bad, and also more responive to things like guilt and shame which might make you a better person. But since that doesn't happen matter in the modern world it's generally considered a negative trait and is correlated with a lot of personality disorders.

What could be more useless than video games? I've wasted my life on video games!

>>84651031
You're far too late for that, I must sleep too though so good night!

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>>84649638
>INFJ-A, but MBTI is not a technically valid personality measure iirc. Take the Big Five if you can.
>Currently reading The Song of Roland, Arab Comics by Allen Douglas and Fedwa Malti-Douglas, and Understanding Korean Webtoon Culture by Dal Yong Jin. I also read Memoirs of a Shy Pornographer by Kenneth Patchen semi-recently. My favorite recent read was Thames and Hudson's New Deal Art by John P. Murphy.
>Suicidal Children's and Adolescents' Responses to Early Memories Testing by Richard T. Monahan of Harvard Medical School.
>Manga and comics as a whole occupy their own literary and artistic space. It is just as unfair to compare comics and manga to image-only art as it is to compare them to text-only writing. They are a blend of both with their own conventions, traditions, and rules. So I do not think comics either are or are not literature. They occupy a different space entirely.
>I do not spend all my time gaming anymore. I mostly play with friends, and when I play alone I limit myself to a few hours if there is absolutely nothing else I should be doing. Usually that means I have already read, drawn, worked out, finished chores, and completed my work.

I will defend her bussy with my life!!!

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How do I Te-MAXX?

Ummm, would I? *Willl* I?

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>>84649638
IN(x)
>book
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS1osz3oHZE
>Is there a scientific paper you'd like to share?
https://web.archive.org/web/20130512205539/http://www.sinetwork.org/pdf/schneider_moore.pdf
>Is manga literature?
No, because the focus is on the illustrations. If you took all the text out of a given manga it would retain most of it's value, but if you took all the pictures away it'd be worthless. The text in manga is essentially commentary upon the illustrations, and not an intrinsic part of the piece. For similar reasons, i'm not entirely convinced that plays should be considered literature in the normal sense. I think "literature" has become a fetishized word, like "art", to the detriment of everything associated with it. By the way, have you noticed how only illustrators call themselves "artists" by default?
>What is the real reason you spend all your time playing video games?
Technology does not provide to us preferable alternatives, but alienates us from the preferable original, a fact which we allow to be hidden from ourselves by poor substitutions. When i did spend too much time playing video games, it was because i didn't have anything better to do. I still don't have anything better to do, but know that i know that, what did distract me now reminds me, and further fuels my misery. That's a bit dramatic. Video games can be alright sometimes, though really get a bad rap, they're a potentially more enriching experience than the purely consumptive medias. That that potential is far too often unrealized is not to blamed on the medium.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wk-zOcjvwE

>>84650863
>It depends on what do you mean by literature, if words = lit then yeah, but if you name a manga as a book you've read you deserve to get shot
See, this is backwards to me. A manga can be a book, but it can't be literature, just like a photobook, or a magazine.
I think excluding things like that from counting as a book is done purely so people like you can avoid saying that the last thing they read was Chainsawman without feeling like a liar.
>>84650885
Kino. I'd play the video game adaptation of a manga about him.

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The hyperverbal/lexic no1curr processors always kill threads . . .

Too good EYE LUFF EWE and don't afraid of social comiconbentionz

>>84651266
silence woman and post your feet again

>>84649638
>>What is your MBTI type?
ESFP-T
>>Can you name a book?
Starship Troopers
>>(Optional) Is there a scientific paper you'd like to share?
I'm afraid not.
>>(Optional) Is manga literature?
Hmm. Not the first descriptor that comes to mind, but I think it's as valid a literary form as most YA novels.
>>(Optional) What is the real reason you spend all your time playing video games?
The only times I play video games are when I'm killing time because my ESFJ is in court or it's a multiplayer co-op game that I can share with friends.

>>84651266
take it bby fuckin take that huge cock for me im sitting in da chair back here

>>84651717
>Starship Troopers
https://youtube.com/shorts/D6ZnAJGYl3U

>>84651266
crap im right in the center!

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They wouldn't have a government where Sophia wasn't Queen!

Wait for the wagon! The dissolution wagon! Sophia is the wagon, and we'll all take a ride!

>>84652009
>https://youtube.com/shorts/D6ZnAJGYl3U
I've played that game quite a bit, but we're shifting back to Darktide soon.

>>84652173
is it like space marine 2? I've played that. I'm tired of arc raiders.

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This should have been Memorial Day Edition you fucking maggots!

>>84651266
You seem to be mistaking having no tastebuds for something else.

My girl is back. Treat her good or get tf out.

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>>84650860
By the way, the colors assigned to the functions in your pictures are from the man himself.

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>>84651146
>https://web.archive.org/web/20130512205539/http://www.sinetwork.org/pdf/schneider_moore.pdf
Now that's a GOOD ENOUGH one.

>>84650955
Trillionaires tho?

hnhnhnnhg

Let me start with the cool one.
This isn't focused much on the quote itself, but it was especially prompted by those lines:

>You have seen quite correctly that the attitude-type remains more or less constant but that the function-type is subject to all manner of changes in the course of life.
>During a practical analysis you can observe an extremely interesting transition from the differentiated function to its auxiliary function and from this to its counter-function and thence to the undifferentiated or inferior function.

Merging everything I've learned about this topic so far, I believe Jung splits the type in 3 different things:

>Original Type
Also referred as "real" type. Presumably the one we want to figure out.
This is the differentiated attitude and function in consciousness, and would match the Ego. It's not necessarily reflected in behavior or personal identification, hence it can be difficult to figure out. There doesn't seem to be anything suggesting this type can change. Jung makes mention of this existing several times.

>Creative Type
Jung seems to believe that your "creative personality" tends to be the opposite of your original type. He points at Freud(introvert with an extraverted PoV in his works), Adler(opposite way around), and also Goethe(intuitive feeling extravert, has written Faust into a sensation thinking introvert).
Matches the Shadow, or Anima/Animus figures. Based off a division Jung made that I've posted in a previous thread.

>Personal Type
What you can observe in a person as they are currently acting and what they identify with. This one is subject to change, with extraversion/introversion being more consistent, but function-type being more volatile. However, they are NOT changing their rank of differentiation(note the second part of the quote).
It can perfectly match both the Original OR the Creative Type.

I'd avoid doing a straight inversion in all cases for the "creative personality", but it might be a very pronounced trend.

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Typing Faust counts as typing a fictional character btw. Not that he also didn't do that in PT, but still. He says he likes Faust a lot and considers it the one thing you should read from Goethe, in fact he doesn't even seem to like anything else from him.
I bet Jung would be a fucken pseud who unironically thinks Madoka is peak mahoushoujo, good lord why. Not even Uro thinks PMMM is any better than HC Precure, admitting that if he watched it before writing his own stuff, it would have looked like more like the latter.

Would Elon Musk date INTJFemboi?

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>>84653073
I'd list at least 5 total.
>huh?
Otto Rank...
>huh?
...

>>84653143
>PMMM
The writing is lackluster no matter how you look at it, it's saved by the [classified]aesthetics.

MBTI is smooth brain nonsense.

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>>84653073
All 3 of these 3 types of mine match. Problems? This does not /stack/ up to any set effect bonuses however. May I respecc? No? Okay.

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>>84653434
The point seems to be that he tries to address both a Type that's defined by "differentiation in consciousness" of E/I attitude and the dominant function(or their opposites) - along with how the person actually behaves/identifies themselves instead at different points in their life. Maybe he feels like it would be confusing if you tried to assign only the former or the latter since there might be a mismatch, but he dosen't make this kind of reasoning explicit enough, because why would Jung ever do that?

>The writing is lackluster no matter how you look at it, it's saved by the [classified]aesthetics.
Basically. Very mixed feelings on PMMM, if I have to be contrarian on anything related to magical grills, it will be this one since it's usually considered a modern classic but I cannot really see how, unless it's like your first exposure to the whole concept of magical grills or the more "philosophical" side of anime.

>>84653446
MBTI is indeed the smooth brain version of Jung typology. Also one that goes against what he was trying to do, since I just finished reading this:
>My typology aims, not at characterizing personalities, but at classifying the empirical material in relatively simple and clear categories, just as it is presented to a practising psychologist and therapist. I have never thought of my typology as a characterological method and have never applied it in this sense. For any such application it would be much too general and therefore much too scanty. As you very rightly observe, one needs 27 categories and probably a few more besides in order to give an adequate characterization of mentally differentiated persons.
Couldn't be more explicit if he tried, for once. You straight cannot use his stuff as a way to characterize people.

>>84653450
That's one thing I fully expected which is why I added a footnote about how it's probably not a fixed rule to invert your type in "creative personality".

>art made by enneagram type 4 is usually not that hard to understand
>art made by enneagram type 5 always feels kinda strange and mysterious
Agree? Any other stereotypes for enneagrams & the art they make?

>>84653550
>>art made by enneagram type 4 is usually not that hard to understand
What if you aren't used to 4isms? Or are you saying they make it easy and explicit on purpose?

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>>84653521
Are you trying to sell me on Jung by pointing out he did what PASF does huh?

>>84653446
Smooth brain is good! Not wrinkly! Only cute and pretty!

>>84653450
Actually, it depends on the mindset. No typology accounts for psyches being like trees, so to speak.

>>84653788
>Are you trying to sell me on Jung by pointing out he did what PASF does huh?
What if PASF did what Jung does. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they took inspiration from Jungian typology, while looking a bit deeper than usual.
Still, interesting to know that.

Now time for this:

>In the normal man the transcendent function operates entirely in the unconscious, which tends to continually reestablish the equilibrium.
[...]
>There are many normal cases in which, under certain circumstances, a character opposed to the conscious personality suddenly manifests itself, causing a conflict between the two personalities.
>Take the classic case of the temptation of Christ, for example. We say that the devil tempted him, but we could just as well say that an unconscious desire for power confronted him in the form of the devil.

>Both sides appear here: the light side and the dark. The devil wants to tempt Jesus to proclaim himself master of the world. Jesus wants not to succumb to the temptation; then, thanks to the function that results from every conflict, a symbol appears: it is the idea of the Kingdom of Heaven, a spiritual kingdom rather than a material one.
>Two things are united in this symbol, the spiritual attitude of Christ and the devilish desire for power. Thus the encounter of Christ with the devil is a classic example of the transcendent function. It appears here in the form of an involuntary personal experience.

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>But it can be used as a method too; that is, when the contrary will of the unconscious is sought for and recognized in dreams and other unconscious products. In this way the conscious personality is brought face to face with the counter-position of the unconscious.
>The resulting conflict-- thanks precisely to the transcendent function-- leads to a symbol uniting the opposed positions. The symbol cannot be consciously chosen or constructed; it is a sort of intuition or revelation.
>Hence the transcendent function is only usable in part as a method, the other part always remains an involuntary experience.

>Naturally, these experiences appear only in people without religious convictions. For where there is a definite belief there are also definite concepts from among which a symbol can be chosen. Thus conflict is avoided, or rather the opposite does not appear, being hidden beneath a dogmatic image (Christ, for example).
>That is why you find no trace of the transcendent function in the psychology of a man with
definite religious convictions. What the term "transcendent function" designates is really the transition from one condition to another.
>When a man is caught by a religious concept, he does not leave it; he stays with his religious conviction, and, furthermore, that is what he should do. If any conflict appears, it is immediately repressed or resolved by a definite religious idea.

>That is why the transcendent function can be observed only in people who no longer have their original religious conviction, or never had any, and who, in consequence, find themselves directly faced with their unconscious.

tl;dr unprecedented levels of Fedora, as the other anon pointed out. But he isn't wrong, so the best approach to Jung would be explicitly not being religious.

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>>84653748
Well it's always been easy to understand from my experience
Do you have any counterexamples?

>>84653943
No, but that's just because I didn't really pay attention to the correlation between enneatype and artistic output.

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Clod went for this one after being fed the new stuff about the functions(mainly intuition, and technically sensation too).
Now wait until you see the justification for this... Also

> This type is not only comfortable saying "it depends on how you look at it" but genuinely experiences values and perceptions as fluid and context-dependent. The potential weakness is that this can slide into an inability to commit -- the relativity becomes so vivid that taking a firm position feels like a kind of dishonesty.
Are you calling me a fucken ENFP.

>>84650535
I'm really not too fond of rev, he's not doing his job right and yet all the girls constantly praise him like crazy, unsure why

>>84653521
>My typology aims, not at characterizing personalities, but at classifying the empirical material in relatively simple and clear categories
This is just pointless semantics, how is classifying something that makes up an individual not 'characterizing them'?
Or rather, how would a tool made for this exact purpose not end up used in that exact way for that exact purpose?

This really reads to me like 'uhm ackshually a troll is obviously a fantastical creature and so you could not really be interacting with one on the internet' kinda retardation, not that I think it's necessarily a good idea to try to stick to the very origin of an idea/tool and never try to improve on it, even if it means changing it, in the first place, coca cola was just medicine, finger printing was just some anthropologic tool to figure out people's genetic makeup, the magnetron was just the nazis trying to figure out new radar technology and now you got one in every kitchen that you can use to warm up your cold coffee or cook up a half baked dish in a minute's time

Now ofc he was probably just trying to excuse his psychological degree to be treated more like science and so he's just trying to find excuses for it, because you can't exactly call psychology a science due to how many holes and how uncertain everything about it is, aka; he was just coping, but surely that's just my take on it

>>84653143
I didn't think madoka was that bad, yeah it's a bit pretentious I guess but I'm giving it a lot of bonus points for trying to do things differently; which just never fucking happens in anime, a 'main' character dying?
When? Where? I'd have to think about it for an hour, and I probably could only give you like five examples, out of the hundreds or maybe thousands I've watched (honestly only gurren lagann comes up right now from the get go)
The general 'curse' of the world which gives it a more gritty tone also added a lot, I got a lot of the same vibes from made in abyss and loved that one for a lot of those reasons, but only so many shows have ever tried to portray the world in such a dark manner, I mean if you remove the last episode where she becomes space jesus and saves the universe or whatever the fuck is meant to be happening, I guess madoka suffers a lot from the same issues that NGE did, where it can come off as pretty pretentious and that rubs a lot of people the wrong way; but most people still see it and overhype it like fucking crazy, which rubs those first people even worse

>>84654106
Semantics aside, think what he's trying to say there boils down to
>I'm not trying to say my types can encompass most personality/character traits(or none at all, even if that doesn't make much sense since "orienting yourself to ideas" would be a vague trait, but still one - so let's say the problem is how much it can encompass)
>If you tried to use my typology that way, you would notice it's too generic and doesn't provide an adequate description of more defined people

>This really reads to me like 'uhm ackshually a troll is obviously a fantastical creature and so you could not really be interacting with one on the internet' kinda retardation
Funnily enough, he said that about his types straight in PT.
As in, they are only made up portraits with their traits stressed to a logical extreme for the sake of example.

>Now ofc he was probably just trying to excuse his psychological degree to be treated more like science and so he's just trying to find excuses for it, because you can't exactly call psychology a science due to how many holes and how uncertain everything about it is, aka; he was just coping, but surely that's just my take on it
More context here

>Dear Dr. Schaffer,
>Sincerest thanks for your friendly and interesting letter. Your individual attempt at a tvpization shows that the typological problem can be approached from any number of angles, and usually with considerable advantage for the inventor of the scheme in question.
>Your attempt is essentially eharacterological, which I cannot assert of my own typology. Nor was it ever my intention to characterize personalities, for which reason I did not put my description of the types at the beginning of the book; rather I tried to produce a clear conceptual scheme based on empirically demonstrable factors.
The Dr. Schaffer in question presented him a typology with 27 categories and wanted to compare it with Jung's.

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>>84654138
Madoka is what happens when the author clearly has little experience/context in something he's writing about, and thinks he understands more than he does. It works for impressionable casuals/newfags, but anyone who was already into it(both magical girls and "philosophical" shows) really won't get much out of it.
Magical girls with darker themes? Yeah we did this, and while keeping the style perfectly intact instead of relying on its grittiness, even.
Faustian bargain? Not exactly uncommon, and not a very interesting form there.

>>84653788
Hope you doin good. Nice dubs also))

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>>84654106
>not that I think it's necessarily a good idea to try to stick to the very origin of an idea/tool and never try to improve on it, even if it means changing it
Also to this I can say that it's more of a problem of scope and purpose.
MBTI&co. suffer more from trying to overextend their scope in some areas(things such as saying that sensoids are more traditional or reliant on memory), somehow forget to cover the original ground(see: literally everything that has to do with the interplay between conscious/unconscious stuff), gloss over the main issue(it's a "type problem" because consciousness finds it particularly difficult to separate itself from the perspective of your own type... except feeling intuitoids apparently because those eat relativity for breakfast, bet they are introverts too and look exactly like pic rel).

>>84654196
I guess I can't really debate this because I don't see madoka in any way shape or form related to philosophy, where the resemblance with NGE stops since anno was obviously going balls deep into his own life experience and how to deal with this shit, but isn't madoka just a story about that group of girls that happen to become magical girls; and the beings giving them those powers aren't 'good' (which is the common trope in other magical girl shows), and that's it?
What's there to teach? Or learn?

For example, you bring up the casuals and newfags and yeah, this is obvious, but surely you also understand why those casuals and newfags don't want to watch precure or any other magical girl show you maybe personally enjoy; it's because the way it's portrayed is just lacking that specific thing that made them want to watch madoka and not your show, it doesn't matter if your show also delves into the same ideas or tries to tell a story you believe to be better than madoka's, it doesn't matter because madoka was presenting itself as more mature and 'adult', now whether they got it right or not (or how much) is a subjective matter, but it's there

Mmmh, maybe madoka is just your frieren

>>84654152
>I'm not trying to say my types can encompass most personality/character traits(or none at all, even if that doesn't make much sense since "orienting yourself to ideas" would be a vague trait, but still one - so let's say the problem is how much it can encompass)
>If you tried to use my typology that way, you would notice it's too generic and doesn't provide an adequate description of more defined people
This I think boils down to a big cope I've noticed in some people I frequent (well, one of them has been a friend for 15 fucking years, which I can't even really type (maybe ENTJ, but he's not narcissistic and he's lazy so...), and the other is that older woke INTJ guy, is that they're simply naive, or maybe naive isn't necessarily the right word; but they still have faith that most humans are humans, and I find it both fascinating and scary because they're both very, very smart guys, and I know they've had to deal with retards before, yet, they somehow assume that most people aren't those same retards, and I think it's imply due to them being so smart (and thus successful) that they end up naturally surrounded by other smart and successful people and kind of forget the harsh true reality that people are fucking monkeys and most people in the world aren't 120+ IQ individuals that try to understand how others think or feel before deciding to stab you and getting your shit

Maybe I'm too far the opposite way, but this very much reminds me of this, Jung was probably surrounded by very smart people, and most of his clients were probably not the dregs of society that obviously wouldn't be able to afford his care in the first place, not counting even for the fact that, well, societies were a tad more homogenic back then so there was that, but that's another discussion

So, yeah, it's probably harder (more often than not at least) to type someone that's smarter vs a dumb retard, and it's easy to think 'well people are intelligent beings, therefore hard to type'

>>84654295
>What's there to teach? Or learn?
From
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deals_with_the_Devil_in_popular_culture
Lists Madoka explicitly.
>Puella Magi Madoka Magica and its adaptations contain many allusions to Goethe's Faust as the central motif of the series is the protagonists' "contracts" with the devil-like figure Kyubey.
It's why I joke about how Jung would probably be into this shit, since the letters mention him liking Goethe's Faust a lot.

> but surely you also understand why those casuals and newfags don't want to watch precure or any other magical girl show you maybe personally enjoy; it's because the way it's portrayed is just lacking that specific thing that made them want to watch madoka and not your show, it doesn't matter if your show also delves into the same ideas or tries to tell a story you believe to be better than madoka's, it doesn't matter because madoka was presenting itself as more mature and 'adult', now whether they got it right or not (or how much) is a subjective matter, but it's there
That's a case of "I know why and how it happens, doesn't mean I can't call it newfaggotry", which is to say I would expect most people who get more into the genre to grow out of it eventually, it's not a stance you usually hold for long when you have enough context to compare with.

>Mmmh, maybe madoka is just your frieren
Nah, because at least I believe PMMM is worth watching when you are bored enough. Just not worth hyping over many other shows in the same genre(s).

>>84654331
He definitely had to deal with cases that would be very complex compared to the average normalnig,
That being said, was wondering how much of that can be related to a typical trait in intuitive people, they tend to not defualt to absolutely known facts - rather keeping their attitude always on lookout for what exists beyond them. So it's more like "surely not everyone is a retard and I have to consider edge cases? who can say one isn't in front of me rn?" - this might be perceived as being naive in a sense.

>>84653073
>Original Type
Is Type
>Personal Type
As Type
>Creative Type
You say yourself this is a redundant category, so why include it?
>Jung splits the type in 3 different things
You really believe that? Even his name is divisible by 2.

When you lose an argument badly enough, you like to adopt and repurpose the winning material, without consciously admitting that's what you've done. I say repurpose, because the real purpose of this is to sooth your ego, and the greatest facilitator and most obvious mark of this is your Creative Type. It isn't a type of Type, it's a mechanism. You're smart enough to figure that out, but if you admitted it was a mechanism your conception would suddenly look a lot more like mine.
The very first argument we had you did the very same thing in a less profound way. There seems to be some kind of patent office in your head that you're afraid of. You really seem unable to engage with much at all without putting your own spin on it.

>>84652244
>is it like space marine 2?
Much less complicated. I played Space Marine 2 and just couldn't keep up with all the combos and counters. Darktide is mostly shot, stab, throw grenade, dodge. It's also a co-op extraction shooter not unlike Helldivers 2.

Not gonna respond to instances of you being a cunt just to carry old!Patch's snarktorch. It's warranted but speaking on my taste like that is a self-own also, especially with all the return to senders y'all novices be too confuzzled not to have backfired in your egg-wet faces

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>Your type
>To be a magical girl or shounen MC, does one have to HAVE magical/superhero-esquepowers, or just the capacity to survive magical/overpowered in the meta attacks?

>>84654481
>You say yourself this is a redundant category, so why include it?
To account for a definition he used, with special reference to the cases mentioned. It's a split he made himself right there.
>but if you admitted it was a mechanism your conception would suddenly look a lot more like mine.
I have no idea how does that even look like, and it sounds more like a semantic point than anything.
>You really seem unable to engage with much at all without putting your own spin on it.
Very ironic considering your entire post here. It's his own spin purely born out of his own considerations.
As for why it's included at all in his stuff then, I can only guess it's because he puts some emphasis on creative works in analysis, and he wants to be clear that point of views expressed in such works might be a type inversion of the author's original type.

Though I'm not sure this is a fixed rule, so for now it should be called a "trend". If anything I can anticipate it isn't, because it should be easy enough to produce examples where you can observe one's original type, or personal type, in creative output. So it's more like "don't forget this CAN be the opposite of the original type and also something that doesn't match personal type".

Anyways, you seem more invested in trying to "win" something and naming yourself a better Jungian prophet rather than figuring out what would be his perspective, or to at least offer one that should more or less fit. It's the same issue as *him*, and much like *him*, you aren't ever winning anything at all. Unless he considers people not wanting to engage with his retardation for 100 posts straight a win of some sort.

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I concur with the above about playing games you can't die in unless the Royal We says so.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9C3O-r5PXUo&t=141s

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>>84654553
>Your type
"INFJ" magical girl enjoyer.
>To be a magical girl or shounen MC, does one have to HAVE magical/superhero-esquepowers, or just the capacity to survive magical/overpowered in the meta attacks?
In terms of how magical girl heroines are, the minimum requirement is that she's capable of using magic one way or another. It might be given by an external source, it might require a specific tool, or she might just be a magical creature herself who can do that naturally.
Defensively, they can be as weak as a regular girl and at times you could just kill one by punching her hard enough. Very typically it's implied that their defense is supernatural though, but it's no hard requirement.

That's a very generic definition, so in theory you could call most characters "magical girls" as long they are magical and female.
The term "mahoushojo" is given to characters who follow genre conventions, very roughly speaking:
>they are from an urban setting rather than a high fantasy one
>there is a certain focus on their daily life, personal struggles, relationships, and whatnot
>the magical aspect is complementary to who they are

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>Start out with MBTI
>back to Magical girls again

When in rome...

>>84654602
https://voca.ro/1gzLWwftZYXs
Star sticker for participation but bonk for spoilers

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>>84654481
>your Creative Type
List the creative types!

>>84654537
Very many old!old!old!old!old!old!- clarifications these years.

> 84654553
This will help us with neither typology not magical girls genre.

>>84654285
Thanks! It took effort to get them!

>>84654106
Personalities aren't empirical apparently.

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>>84654492
>I played Space Marine 2 and just couldn't keep up with all the combos and counters
But you're a Se-dom and it's not even a fighting game?

>>84653838
Maybe the transcendent function is useless and is only to deal with boredom? Anyhowl.
>>The resulting conflict-- thanks precisely to the transcendent function-- leads to a symbol uniting the opposed positions. The symbol cannot be consciously chosen or constructed; it is a sort of intuition or revelation.
>>Hence the transcendent function is only usable in part as a method, the other part always remains an involuntary experience.
>>Naturally, these experiences appear only in people without religious convictions
Aren't there countless religious theologians et al. describing mystic experiences that would fit the transcendent function label? How far the hair can be split?

>>84654782
>and is only to deal with boredom?
Well I'm very bored.
>Aren't there countless religious theologians et al. describing mystic experiences that would fit the transcendent function label?
Think he wants you to do more with the experience.
As in, it's not T.F. until you did both the part where you "encounter" the opposite position, and you produced the unifying symbol - and religious dogma would prevent the latter because the subject clings to pre-made symbols or is not willing to admit the "devil in himself"(as in, the unconscious).
Granted though, his own idea is already based on spiritual ideas so maybe the whole thing is just a way to say that you don't have to be a religious zealot but you can invest in spiritual stuff or even make your own.

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>>84654827
>religious dogma would prevent the latter
Nuh uh. Religious dogma doesn't erase the subjective factor where the symbol inevitably forms anyway.

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>>84654850
>the subjective factor where the symbol inevitably forms anyway.
Wouldn't that only work for extraverts? The introvert is already invested in the subjective factor after all, they don't need an "unifying symbol" if that were the case.
Kinda like here he says that the symbol could be perceived as intuition, but if you are an intuitive type then "intuitions are directly in the way", what should be reached for are firstly aux thinking/feeling(in any order) and then inf Sensation.

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>>84654882
>Wouldn't that only work for extraverts?
There's a lot of autonomy in psyche elements and processes for anyone, so.

>>84654898
Think that by definition what he calls "unifying symbol" cannot really belong only to the psyche, there is always an object involved too. It was the entire premise of him investigating alchemical stuff, because he believed that from the outside you can observe what was essentially a primitive form of chemistry, but the real secret of alchemy was tied to an inner/psychic transformation that supposedly happens along with what alchemists were doing.

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>>84654938
>by definition what he calls "unifying symbol" cannot really belong only to the psyche, there is always an object involved too
Archetype world objects would fit, too, no? As long as it's external to the psyche.

>>84654953
>Archetype world objects would fit, too, no? As long as it's external to the psyche.
That works, he did say that. And from what I understand, subjective factor eventually reaches all the way back to the collective unconscious. So the problem with the religious dogma would then become being counted as a literal external object that replaces the experience of the archetype instead.

I'm a failed robot failed robot failed robot
No longer a neet I got a job
I climb trees
I save children
I'm a hero to single mothers in yoga pants
I never sexual harass them because I'm in a chastity cage

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>>84654976
>the problem with the [X] would then become being counted as a literal external object that replaces the experience of the archetype instead
Jung had nothing interesting going on in his works if his alarmism was all about unwarranted anomalies within the ontology he outlined himself, then.

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https://socioniks.net/en/test/
https://personometry.com/forms/solti_160_v4_en.html
https://personometry.com/forms/_067_v1_en.html

Post results.

>bruh shit too long idc
Still better than jerking off to trannies and whining about how women are all whores

>>84655012
tbf I don't remember if he said it explicitly, but people can live all their lives without (consciously) doing anything Jungian at all, and having the T.F. happen in the background or without them even realizing they just did that.
Same way you can live without knowing what's in your food, accidentally labelling it something else, or becoming fanatic about food.

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>>84655033
but what if they're cute trannies

>>84655012
hope you doing well patchiboo :3

>>84654565
There is nothing to be won from you. My interest in you is now only as an animal to observe, something i don't get to do too often irl. I saw you repeat a behavior, so i said so, and gave my impression of it. This observation, and occasional analysis, i'm subjecting you too feels like an attack on your ego. You have no interest in me as a person, so it's easy for you to invent a psychology for me that resolves any disharmony into a rude intrusion. I'm obviously not the only one you do this to.
I say "now" because before i saw you as a potential playmate. When you proved a bad one i decided to use you as a toy for a bit, as a compensation of sort, i suppose. That sounds more sinister than it was, it's more like i just finished the game i had invented for us on my own, you really didn't have anything to do with it, other than giving me one last opportunity to Bowiepost.

As for why i want to observe you, it's because by doing so i can construct my own personal, practical typology. You in particular interest me because i don't have a name for the type of person you are yet. You're like a male kudzu, and i don't know quite what to call that yet. I call you heartfag, but that's a name, not a title. Once you have a title you'll stop being interesting to me all together. So, if you want to make me look bad, you could say what i'm doing is something like class reinforcement.

>>84655033
>Still better than jerking off to trannies and whining about how women are all whores
T. A woman

>>84655360
His posts seem stressed lately we should try extra hard to make him comfortable

Every thread should have a mandatory introduction post so that we know everyone's pronouns and stuff

Do we actually know anyone's pronouns here?

>>84655482
The trannies n troons post right above your post talking about pronouns made me think of how there isn't a prophetic future tense pronoun equivalent like there is for "was/were." What would it even be, "will/???" ?

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>>84655448
>something i don't get to do too often irl.
Excuse me, this is a hikkikomori-free space.

>>84655045
>without (consciously) doing anything Jungian at all, and having the T.F. happen in the background or without them even realizing they just did that.
What's the difference, exactly? Parading a Jungtard identity?

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Hey folxxxies, I just drank tea in a DELEUZIAN poggera way yup yup. I'm such a cutting edge schizoanalytic, not like you unwashed capitalist assemblages succumbing to fascist onslaughts.

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The Red Button vs Blue Button question is a good way of filtering between thinkers and feelers.

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>>84655590
Isn't it lowest grade twittertard engagement bait. Are you even paid to shill X like that. Artists' ones where they ask "which version of this drawn thing is better?" is where the filter juice is.

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>>84655550
>What's the difference, exactly? Parading a Jungtard identity?
It's cool to know that it works and there is a theory according to some dude in the 1900s I guess.

>>84655448
Before coming up with a typology system, you should make sure your so-called "observations" aren't just your subjective interpretations of a different subject, to put it lightly. Or are automatically above your own typology by claiming to be a perfectly impartial observer? Jung would weep.
Oh well, enjoy watching the cute magical girls at least. The cuteness is quite objective there and whoever claims otherwise should be locked up.

>>84655590
How about Sensation and Intuition? For instance, you think an intuitive thinkoid produces the same answer as a sensing thinkoid?

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>>84655680
>It's cool to know that it works
It's been already described over and over before Jung however. Is this nitpicking about qualia states now? No, because Jungussers weren't ever accurate on T.F. enough.

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>>84655696
>It's been already described over and over before Jung however.
I mean, that's his point. He only wants to point out that those things can be both explained on psychological grounds, and have validity as such, in case you aren't magicpilled enough.

Now about that.....
Buckle your microphysical seatbelts because this is going to end up into /x/ territory.
First, consider what the definition of intuition includes here. With special attention to the relativity of time and space in the psyche

>>84655680
>How about Sensation and Intuition? For instance, you think an intuitive thinkoid produces the same answer as a sensing thinkoid?
Hello Kersey
Also yes Thinking 1/Sensation 2 and Thinking 1/Intuition 2 is pretty damn similar.

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>>84655711
And then this.
Think I have good grounds to claim that Intuition includes microphysical perception then.

>>84655749
>Also yes Thinking 1/Sensation 2 and Thinking 1/Intuition 2 is pretty damn similar.
Certainly more similar than different.
Would that change when either Sensation or Intuition are 1st, and Thinking is 2nd?

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>>84655711
"Dude unconscious is a concept inclusive of anything not conscious including the paranormal lmao"
People with abhorrent gut feel or consideration of dynamic potentialities, but good PSI, are intuitards now?

This is just the lack of Carl's differentiation on the matter. Of course a trash thesis is difficult to prove.

https://ebrary.net/205320/psychology/rhines_dice
Yeah, it's called an unconscious throwing skill. Throwing technique matters.

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>>84655799
>People with abhorrent gut feel or consideration of dynamic potentialities, but good PSI, are intuitards now?
Correlation with preferences included in the context.* In case the reader can't follow. We have enough dumbfuck readers out there.

Chagola Shittiester has to use a hairband for her ahoge loool malding AND traction alopecia. You a d v a n t a g e 2 C IT

>>84655799
>People with abhorrent gut feel or consideration of dynamic potentialities, but good PSI, are intuitards now?
They are certainly using something that Jung slipped right under Intuition but never claimed too explicitly. Whether it correlates with their typological "preference" idk, was about to say that. I'd be tempted to say that there might be sensoids going around doing it in a completely undifferentiated way. It's their Creative Type(TM).

>This is just the lack of Carl's differentiation on the matter. Of course a trash thesis is difficult to prove.
I'm sure somebody already did it better than him

>>84654731
>List the creative types!
I'd say you, most basically, have Music Types and Painting Types, and i mean that both literally and metaphorically, but those separately.
>Aren't there countless religious theologians et al. describing mystic experiences that would fit the transcendent function label? How far the hair can be split?
I guess Jung would say they came to be religious through the transcendent function, or never stopped becoming religious. I was thinking of Kierkegaard, but i'm reminded of Luke 5:29-39.
>>84655680
You know what you're like? you're like a banana spider.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhLxyFJhKbw
Can you spin that into a compliment?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_silk_orb-weaver

I'm a dog. It was revealed to me in a dream.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAnj2fyjxRw

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>>84655861
This is kinda getting nowhere.

I declare that The Creative Type is the Transcendent Function Type of a person, and that's where PSI gravitates around.

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>>84655974
>I'd say you, most basically, have Music Types and Painting Types, and i mean that both literally and metaphorically, but those separately.
Countless people can do both and do both for indie music videos and the like. I can do both.

>>84655590
I'll die on the hill that pressing blue is the right way about it

It's not just a feeler's opinion, but it's partly due to the feelers pressing blue; what the fuck are you going to do when all the feelers are dead?
You end up with a world without most women and without most first worlders, what the fuck then?

>b-b-but I rephrased it look poop haha funny u want to eat poop
I'd rather take my chance and hope the monkeys in the third world that can't read and wouldn't understand the question anyways would press blue simply due to the fact that red things are usually less edible or more likely to be poisonous (well, when it comes to berries at least) and so they'd press blue, than having to leave with a world full of nothing but entitled niggers and 'ackshually' redditors, that is all

Nexialist lets uhhhhh scare the crap outta this kid in his own VRchat erp backdoor fake wallclipthru place. Glory Be To Kinolander

>>84655550
It's hard to observe people who pass by so quickly.
>Countless people can do both and do both for indie music videos and the like. I can do both.
Perhaps the same could be said of all typologies.
>>84641848
>intuition might have been saved for gnosis in itself
Were that the case, it would imply that the Gnostics were secretly sensoids who essentially worshiped their own unconscious intuition. I think you could make argument for that, although i don't believe it's true. It may be useful to to imagine a hypothetical gnostic who was like that, and there may even have been some like him.
However, on the whole, it seems more likely to me that intuition is missing because it was lumped in with sensation by the thinkoids of both attitudes that peddled the idea.
>Probably "oppurtunistic" or something like that. Something about being a rat that sneaks after weakness to compensate for his own pathetic nature.
Then it seems accident saved you from yourself.
>nowadays people live in studio apartments, where there's really not much more than a bed in the first place
That's part of what makes it sad when you think about it. It's not like people chose this, not really.

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>>84655977
>Transcendent Function Type of a person
How can a T.F. type be.. well, typed when the definition of T.F. includes all 4 functions at once and both attitudes?

Now speaking of intuition, I nooticed a certain thing. We already acknowledged both Feeling and Intuition are "dynamic", while both Thinking and Sensation and "static", I wonder if you can slip this one in. I mean, Feeling is relative by definition...

>>84655974
Writing Type is probably the big one.

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>>84656004
>I'll die on the hill that pressing blue is the right way about it
You will die, because the vast majority of the world will never press blue.
>It's not just a feeler's opinion, but it's partly due to the feelers pressing blue; what the fuck are you going to do when all the feelers are dead?
They won't be. In a real situation where your life is actually at risk, the feelers will default to their feelings, which in that situation will be to survive.

>than having to leave with a world full of nothing but entitled niggers and 'ackshually' redditors, that is all
You literally already live in a red world.
You, hypocrite, virtue signaling faggot that you are, are pressing red every single day you don't sell your belongings and travel to the third world to save the people dying there.

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>>84649638
>What is your MBTI type?
INTJ but haven't checked in years
>Can you name a book?
My latest book was Wuthering Heights, but only got halfway. It is such a depressing book about depressing people, where everyone gets what they deserve.
>(Optional) Is there a scientific paper you'd like to share?
Not really? I guess I can dig up something about fasting if you are really interested.
>(Optional) Is manga literature?
Oof, starting with the hard questions. Gonna say no? Whether a manga is good, the literature part is just 1/3rd of it. The art, and the presentation, the translation, and the typesetting are all just as important. Not trying to say it is beneath literature, but it is a multi-disciplinary way of storytelling.
>(Optional) What is the real reason you spend all your time playing video games?
They give me the illusion of doing something that matters. I save the world, I doom the world, I kill some people, I change some lives for the better or worse, instead of just passing them by.

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>>84656023
>It's hard to observe people who pass by so quickly
This is also a NEET-free zone.

>Perhaps the same could be said of all typologies
Maybe you could change the way you approach what types to establish.

>>84656030
>How can a T.F. type be.. well, typed when the definition of T.F. includes all 4 functions at once and both attitudes?
I'm NOT showing you my homework!
It's easy to figure out tho. You don't use the personality typology.

Funny axis division is situational/universal. Thinking and intuition always tap into the universal to function, feeling and sensation are always tapping into the situation.
Consider this, if you would.

>>84656046
You have posts ITT besides the button posts right?

>>84656093
>You have posts ITT besides the button posts right?
Try to figure out which ones are mine.

>>84656093
>It's easy to figure out tho. You don't use the personality typology.
Oh ok, guess there are ways to type symbols.

>Funny axis division is situational/universal
Let's see...
>Thinking and intuition always tap into the universal to function
Thinking sounds about right. Ideally any formulation is universal or able to cover enough situations.
Intuition would be... meta-situational? It would acknowledge situations but at the same time it's not tied to them.
>feeling and sensation are always tapping into the situation.
Sensation can only report the situation alright.
Feeling might be funny bere because in theory yes, everything speaks in favor of feeling being situational and relative at the same time, but Feeling types will certainly tell you otherwise.

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>>84656201
>Intuition would be... meta-situational? It would acknowledge situations but at the same time it's not tied to them.
Whatever it has for a situation is something explicitly universal anyway.

>>84656224
Anyways, now we are going full Sociomemes and built:

Thinking: rational, absolute, universal
Feeling: rational, relative, situational
Sensation: irrational, absolute, situational
Intuition: irrational, relative, universal

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You a former ISFP current INFx on way to Transcenduntzuntzuntz so come to the Brazilian Berghain and get your beard split senpai
In my bookersonal onion

I'm gonna INTUUUUUUUIT

>>84656030
>Writing Type is probably the big one.
Writing is basically painting. Even runes were painted.

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>>84656456
Not doing much painting here, are you. Typing is like playing the piano.

And martial arts are suddenly now both and neither music nor painting.
So are sculpting and craftsmanship.

>>84655590
I'm not so sure it is. I'm an INFJ and I'm strongly red button. Blues are fucking morons. It's more like a retard filter, imo

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>>84656454
I've been doing it all day long, and if I didn't compensate with the magical girls I'd be losing all contact with the physical ground entirely. It's ok though, after whole /x/ intuition thing I don't have much.

If anything you can read this, even if at this point we had established as much probably.
>As a rule the undifferentiated function always lags behind real life a little and is constantly oriented to the past.

>>84656004
>I'll die on the hill
Indeed, and good riddance.

You are way too invested in this stupid non conundrum

>>84656505
>Not doing much painting here, are you
In a way, i am.
>martial arts
Music.
>sculpting
Painting.
>craftsmanship
Is always in service to one of the two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acTdvJtJDk8

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>>84656594
Might as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP6QgvfRWd4
Not as good as the OG in FW. It's a bit too upbeat considering how quite a few episodes will go right after you have finished hearing this.

Also not an OP, but gotta give credit to Uta where its due: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlb4iKf_jek
She's good at being an idol. Not sure about the whole precure protag part though.
>it's been one year already
Not even surprised anymore, good thing time is relative.

Should we thugmaxx

Tell me;
Where can I find the time when-
The grass grew without cause?
If it really is greener,
Where the sun doesn't shine?

Oh, tell me,
Is it true what they say?
Does the sun really blind,
Those who look too long?
Or-
Is it a myth?
Of those with sight to weak
To see the truth
Hidden in the light?

>>84656046
>nooo me me me me, I need to live and only I matter and that's all there is to it
My point exactly, you're just another one of those third worlders I'm referring to in my post

>look at how things bad now, it's because red pressers
You don't say!
There's irony to be found here, also the 'virtue signaling' part is rather interesting because it's fucking 4chan you stupid fucking nigger and I'm not getting any karma from it, all I'm getting is your sweet seething and you trying to cope with 'but muh choice is more logical!!!! no I don't feel bad about having to pick that at all!! ur just dumdum!!'
I can hear the [monkey noises] from here

>>84656521
>way too invested
?
Where are you people coming from, what is this