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Can someone tell me what the point in being a heterosexual guy is when most women themselves aren't heterosexual? The case for male heterosexuality has yet to be made.
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I just blame nature since God is not real, fuck this gay earth
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>>84679788
Sometimes I wish the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs just finished the job and wiped out all life on earth instead. Imagine how much suffering and gayness would have been avoided.
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>the case for male heterosexuality has yet to be made
look i agree in modern times many women have inflated standards but THAT is a retarded statement.
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obsessed brimstone keep obsessing over straight women appearently not existing
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>>84679768
Dick pic femanon seemed pretty heterosexual
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>>84679768
It's not a matter of there being a "case" lol why would anyone choose to be attracted to retarded vaginoids?
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>>84679768
"Straight" women are succubi that exist only to siphon away from man. Men need to totally emotionally disconnect from them. Love is man's weakness.
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>>84679768
>The case for male heterosexuality has yet to be made.
1. Big tits
2. skinny girls with big tits
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>>84679768
Nah straight women are very much into men, you just don't count as one.
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That's right OP, the reason women don't like the bottom 99% of men is not because they're exclusively attracted to Chad, yup, it's because they're actually GAY. Yep, makes sense, that's why when they get a chance to have sex with a Chad they go absolutely fucking INSANE and send him thousands of texts asking him to go to her house and fuck her raw.
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Lol. The idea of all women being secretly lesbian is less traumatizing to accept than all women being exclusively sexually attracted to an extremely specific subset of guys- tall, blonde, blue-eyed, square jawed, etc.
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>>84680338
Well women do watch more lesbian porn than straight porn.
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>>84680356
Women are more turned on by other women than even those extremely specific guys.
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>>84679768
>The case for male heterosexuality has yet to be made.
Well it's not really aomething you make a case for. Sexuality isn't a choice after all
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>>84680384
The point is that does human heterosexuality even exist if most women aren't heterosexual?
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i'm gay but not really attracted to men sometimes
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>>84680356
How is it less traumatizing to realize that women aren't into men at all compared to the idea that women are into men but only a small subset of men?
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>>84680381
Wait... women really are all lesbos?
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>>84680381
Oh wow, so most women must settle with women to reflext this, this q&a based charts literally defines reality, you are so smart anon.
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>>84680548
I guess not, yeah. Women are phallosexual ig
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>>84680357
>This site where anyone can pick the any sex while making an account is 100% accurate and reliable because I agree with it
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>>84680669
Women settle with men for resources. They don't need men for resources now and they are increasingly choosing to identify as lgbt or live alone.
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>>84679768
Most women are not dyed in the wool turbo misandrists living their lives online that larp as feminists. Despite their existence their numbers are not significant enough to negatively affect you. If you present yourself as a knowledgeable confident person that tends to lead or take control you can have a girl or girls as platonic friends. If you add a little hornyness one or more will volunteer for the duty of baring your children. Which would be fun and fulfilling to do, nurturing the next generation so they can have it better than you. And as an added bonus you can raise any boy or girl to not be fucked yup like the misandrists or the incels
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>>84680759
>they are increasingly choosing to identify as lgbt or live alone.
This. This explains why so many straight men are single. Women just aren't physically attracted to men. Once you realize that it all makes sense.
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>>84680759
>Says researcher you are lgbt because its good for the cause and you will be seen as a virtuous savior, but actual recorded marriage and family data says otherwise.
They do it because its seen as le~good, naive anon, as you said, women now have similar resourcers to men, but they will never settle with other women as long theres Chad and many will prefer to just be single over not getting Chad, the amount of women who settle with women will always be the lower statistic.
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>>84680237
if a guy was attracted to only 5% of women you would call him. a faggot
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>>84680381
>"Straight" women are more turned on by watching females exercise over males exercising
>In fact they're more aroused watching bonobo sex over men exercising
Humanity is fucked
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>>84680381
I'm going to need the link source for the picture study. I have to see what porn they were giving these women to rate
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>>84681224
>In fact they're more aroused watching bonobo sex over men exercising
I didn't even notice that until you pointed it out. What the FUCK is wrong with women lmao?
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>>84681257
2025 (((women)))s study has got to be the biggest joke if they're filling the room with fucking TROONS

I'd imagine more lesbians would sign up for poenhub to watch than straight women anyway. What the fuck is the per capital on the stats from porno sites?
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>>84680381
yes, absolutely. actually, AGP as understood as a reality affecting trannies is actually probably far more likely if not actually synonymous with the actual female experience, though not much research has been done on this. again, everything starts making sense the more you think on this. unfortunately, also legitimizes trannies a bit because at least they have something in common with real women but you know, thats just how it is.
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>>84681302
We're going to need to see what 2025 study they were giving the troons that circled (((woman))) on the self-identifying section of the questionnaire.
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>>84681258
The dogpill and smut books featuring bestial creatures raping women has been a thing for a long time now, why are you just now finding out they're more degenerate than most men?
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>>84680381
Huh. I guess that explains why women aways tell incels to "just turn gay", it probably IS that easy for them
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>>84680891
This, and it pisses me off that people seem to deny it. Guys are already seen as faggots if they reject women, if they were only attracted to like 5% of women AND were the biggest audience for gay porn, that would make them UNDOUBTEDLY gay

Yet somehow foids get a pass. Give me a goddamn break
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>>84680766
>If you present yourself as a knowledgeable confident person that tends to lead or take control

For being friends maybe (and most women don't make good friends for most men and vice versa), but seducing them would only work if you're Chad
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>>84679768
Oh, women DO like men, it's just that the men they usually think of are Chads. Guys like us aren't even men for them, we're invisible
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>>84681258
>What the FUCK is wrong with women lmao?
This is why women try so hard to collectively keep their sexuality a secret. This is the kind of knowledge that if became widespread would rattle society to the bones. Imagine the entirety of the hetero male population coming to realize that their whole sexuality is a god damn lie.
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>>84681427
Exactly. If men acted the way women acted they would be told to stop being faggots. But women can find women attractive and a small portion of males (even then it's just because of social status and not so much looks) and no one calls them out for it. Fuck this shit.
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>>84681498
>This is the kind of knowledge that if became widespread would rattle society to the bones.

It's already pretty widespread, with how many romantasyslop and straight up bestiality (cof cof glorymorningmilkingfarm cof cof) books are published by and for women, and yet PEOPLE STILL REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>84680357
How do you know it's not just heavily skewed? Straight women just aren't gonna be watching porn. Regardless, if they do, it's often the hardcore/degenerate shit.
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Most women are heterosexual, the problem is men are shit so their heterosexuality is more like a punishment.
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>>84681458
See >>84680381
"Straight" women are still more physically attracted to average mid women than the most attractive men. Female sexuality is a lie. Straight men are left wondering why their love life isn't as fulfilling as the love lives of gay men and it's because straight men's female counterparts are too busying scissoring each other in dyke relationships.
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yet another /u/tranny circle jerk thread... sad
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This thread has been devastating for my male heterosexuality and interest in women. It loses all appeal when you realize the other side isn't attracted to you in the same way.
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I didn't find this out until college. It's one of the many dirty secrets of society.
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>>84680698
Unless you have counter evidence then this isn't really a valid point.
At worst it just shows that trannies disproportionately like lesbian porn
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>>84680356
both are shit, it's all the same shit
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>>84681408
They're basically just indirectly admitting that women don't find men attractive and that they would unironically be better off being gay
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>>84681408
Fuckin kek'd at this, you might be right honestly
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>>84681394
What does that have to do with anything? They're just watching monkey sex in different positions. They're not looking at it while wishing the monkeys would fuck them.
I always laugh at that bullshit about women being more degenerate, so much so that they want to do it with animals. Guess what? Men fuck horses too.
>>84681569
Lmao is just a bull in human form.
>>84680821
Let me put it clearly, you imbecile. They do it because they need to reproduce and have someone take responsibility for everything a person has built in their life and carry them in the future, as simple as that. And it's impossible to do that with homosexual relationships. They don't do it because it's feels good or right, much less because they want a man (just to help them with the crap of raising a baby).
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>>84683984
>I always laugh at that bullshit about women being more degenerate
I can get aroused from females exercising because I'm a normal heterosexual man. Meanwhile, women get more aroused from seeing bonobos have sex compared to looking at the male body exercising because that's apparently what normal "heterosexual" women are like. Still think women aren't more degenerate?
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>>84680698
I'm sorry bros but even in a lab experiment
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>>84681297
There is an entire compilation of these experiments
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I wish women would just be honest about it but they won't because they wouldn't be able to siphon resources away from naive men.
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>>84683984
>Guess what? Men fuck horses too.

Yeah and you don't see most people treating that as if it's nothing worth worrying about like they do with dogpilled foids so what's your fucking point, retard?
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>>84684132
Good that they all truthfully reflect womens behaviour in reality and most women are actually dating each other anon
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>>84684132
Holy shit that sub is the pinnacle of black pills. Every other supposed "black pill" doesn't come anywhere close to that. This is one of the greatest discoveries due to how destabilizing to society it can be if men found out. Why isn't this knowledge spread more? Everyone knows about chadsexuality and hypergamy but this takes the cake and explains literally everything.
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>>84684292
What about the possibility that culture shapes our experiences and what we're allowed to feel? By that logic, women are less attracted to men because we live in a gynocentric culture that never really idealized men's bodies - quite the contrary, actually.
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>>84684095
I also somewhat got aroused on by searching for those poses on google; I think anyone would feel the same way seeing them. And as a straight man, I wouldn't get turned on at all watching men excercising.
>>84684196
Because women get paid to do that shit, do you really think they do it for free? for pleasure?
Nobody cares what men do, nobody's going to give them money or film them if they do it for pleasure, because nobody likes watching men, only faggots.
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>>84684292
>Pic
This is making me sick to my stomach because I know a woman of a friend of mine who got pregnant and was literally telling me she wished it was a girl and was celebrating once she found out. Like I literally want to go throw up. This feels worse than finding out about aliens or some shit because its like this secret was with us this whole time right next to us and we never knew. They lied to us this entire time.
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>>84684348
>I'm a straight man so i don't get turned on by men

Yeah no fucking shit nigga, what point are you trying to make? Why are you still even here? We're talking about women's desires, not yours. Fucking retard.
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>>84684348
If a woman agrees on zoophilia for money, that shows about her values, though. No person does things that go strongly against their values
>nobody likes watching men, only faggots
This is misandry, anon. People are conditioned to hate men, including other men.
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>>84684348
>Because women get paid to do that shit, do you really think they do it for free? for pleasure?

Fucking KEK this retard is so naive
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>>84684376
wait until you find out the foid body is literally trained to try and kill male fetuses. some scientists think this is why there is an increased chance of a boy being gay the more older male siblings he has. because the mother's body gets better at attacking it. boyim are bought into this world by w*men to be cattle to them. they have no attraction to the boyim and franky, don't even see us as humans.
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How could I have been so stupid? It's so simple. Women just aren't into men. It explains everything. It's like unlocking a new way of thinking that helps explain so many things in life. It feels like a light being turned on and my mind is piecing all the pieces together suddenly in a rush with this revelation.
>>84684148
The fact that they lied about it makes it so much worse. If they just came out and admitted it that would be one thing like "sorry, this is the reality, we can't change it, we wish we could" or something but running this whole deception and then being malicious towards men is unforgivable.
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>>84684411
>to be cattle to them
That's what I always said. Men are slaves to women and men don't get anything in return. No appreciation or recognition. Men do everything for women and in return men get hatred, disdain, or get plain ignored. Women can't even control their eagerness for having men go away even though men prop up their comfortable lives up. They are so eager to cut the branch they're sitting on knowing they will fall down with it.
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>>84684435
>It explains everything
It really does. Everything finally makes sense. Why are dating apps so skewed against men? Why are most men single while most women not? Because women aren't into men. Never have been. They're not interested and would rather screw each other.
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>>84684520
Not that I disagree, but I just wanna point out that video seems to be from Eastern Europe or Russia, and I can tell you Russian women are the evilest most scum-fucky demons on the face of the earth.
>t. my first girlfriend was a Russian
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>>84679768
This blackpill hurts the most for men. It is one of the few that gets so much backlash because it directly hits our ego and something we consider to be a fundamental truth. Man + women = continuation of humanity so women MUST be attracted to man, right? Nope. The fact is men are just a means to an end for women. We are just decades in man hating feminism being the norm, and already most women are choosing to either be dykes or just be alone. Women simply only like a man for what they can provide, and that is not love or attraction. It's just a transaction. This ia frankly why I consider actual prostitutes to be the most honest type of woman. She isn't pretending at all she is attracted to me. She just wants the money and gives her pussy in return.
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>>84684520
holy FUCK this video is beyond blackpill, this is the fucking VOIDPILL.
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>>84679898
>Dick pic femanon seemed pretty heterosexual
kys
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>>84679768
trvke. you have to make a fool out of yourself and approach literal retards who aren't even attracted to your sex in the first place. being a hetero man is the most cucked position by far
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>>84685850
unironic trvke. I remember being a boy in middle school and thinking we were all gonna start fucking because we were in puberty. girls going through puberty feel 0 sexual attraction to boys. I couldn't believe it. where is their sex drive?
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>>84684435
"We hate you and there's nothing you can do about it and nothing we want to do about it" isn't the thing you want to hear, either.
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>>84686434
No, it is what i want to hear. Because if you foids made this blatantly clear at every possible point, maybe the braindead simps that make up most of the male population would move on and put all their efforts into supporting ai/robo gfs.
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If women supposedly prefer women then why do they all want a men over 6 foot? Surely a short femboy would be closer to their ideal?
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>>84687148
They associate height with strength and strength with status and the ability to provide for them. They are only interested in what a man can provide for them. They're more concerned what they look like standing next to the man than anything.
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>>84686434
>We hate you
Who said anything about hate? I thought it was that women aren't attracted to men? Are you telling me it's not just that but women hate men too?
>nothing we want to do about it
So it's not just an internal unchangeable preference but you actually like that preference of being ditch-licking dykes? Like I can say I have a preference for women (unfortunately after finding out it isn't reciprocal whatsoever) but wish to want to have it changed somehow.

Anyway thanks for finally being honest that women don't merely have a lack of attraction towards men but have a hatred towards men too.
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>>84687148
Women are attracted to The Dynamic. It isn't that they are attracted more to women, it's that the dynamic that lesbian relationships offer is appealing conceptually. The aesthetic pastiche. However, they value the dynamic of dating a 6+ ft tall built guy with good money higher. It's less about the literal things that come with that, and more about the prestige of it. To 'get' a guy like that must mean she is incredibly beautiful. For the lesbian situation, it's a mix of things but I am entirely convinced it's in no small part due to the idealization men have pushed of 'getting the girl' being the greatest achievement. Women want to be equal to men? They will on some level try to mirror the same goals. And when 2 women 'get' each other, they both get to stroke their own ego over it.

Getting a short femboy is not particularly appealing to women unless something about the dynamic is desirable to them, which usually comes from wanting to emulate something they've seen in media. For men it's more 'logical', because it's typically just hornybrain guidance or a roundabout desire to date someone with similar interests, experiences and views whos still somewhat feminine.

Most of this has always been the case, the reason for the very large and noticeable shift has been the propagandized man hate. In the same way weebs from these parts used to talk about wanting their waifu bangmaids to be real and love them unconditionally, a lot of women only really want a picturesque kpop twunk who possess ESP and keeps perfect track of her period so he can buy her chocolates the day it starts every single time. Combine this with social programming telling women men are all retarded rapemonsters and the idealized dynamic men offered them feels non-existent, thus, only accepting the absolute best, or as a consolation, other women.

At the end of the day very few people care about their partners as people. The idea women care more about personality is the highest of cope.
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>>84687148
That's the other demoralizing part. If you're a man then you better be tall, strong, rich, and a good provider. But if you're a woman the standards are much more egalitarian and all of the sudden it doesn't matter if she's tall, strong, rich, etc. Because women are fundamentally more attracted to women. The fact that the other person is a woman makes up the bulk of the attraction. Look at lesbian couples or even bisexual women. Notice how the male partners they choose are 6'5" gigachads while the women they hook up with are just ordinary dykes with a regular ole cunt between their legs. Short and squat, maybe slightly chubby, unremarkable, no frame, and frumpy looking. The equivalent man would never experience such attention from other women.

That's how utterly fucked up things are and men don't realize. Gay men are the only people that are genuinely attracted to men. Show me a gay incel. They don't exist. All incels are straight men because it's a product of the lack of mutual attraction and reciprocity in human heterosexuality. Homosexuality is a purer form of love and that's why straight men resent gay men for what they have (or rather don't have).
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>>84687178
>They are only interested in what a man can provide for them
>concerned what they look like standing next to the man than anything
This. Straight love doesn't exist. Women's attraction to men depends solely on what the man can provide her. It's entirely transactional. He's essentially just a slave or servant. Women for some reason are incapable of being romantic or being in love with men the way men feel. They don't view height as attractive in an aesthetic sense but in a utilitarian sense. That's why in the romantic relationships women have with other women, height is irrelevant. But in the non-romantic relationships they have with men, all of the sudden height is important because it's not a selfless romantics-based lesbian relationship but a selfish resource-extraction-based straight relationship.

The other thing is that yes, it's a narcissistic and selfish form of attraction. They aren't attracted to men as an object. They are attracted to how men make them feel as a subject. "He brings out my femininity" AKA I get safety and comfort out of this. In lesbian relationships the attraction is not as shallow and transactional.
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>>84687317
so what you're saying is their ideal would be a big, strong 6'5" woman, but they settle for less because they're so attracted to women that any woman will do?
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>>84687456
Yes, exactly. If you apply the standards they have for men to women. But we don't see that. Their attraction to women is based around the fact that she is a woman. Their attraction to men isn't based around the fact that they're men and therefore need all these extraneous traits like height, strength, wealth, etc. To make up for the fact that he's a man. If women were genuinely attracted to men then it would resemble male homosexual dynamics and men and women would be hooking up and getting together with a lot less friction.
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>>84682367
Welcome, don't feel bad, buddy, in the end we need each other for reproductive purposes. It's just that the human case is unusual. These problems don't exist in the animal kingdom because they lack consciousness. And even when males or females touch each other, it's simply for fun and without any sexual attraction.

>>84686158
On the contrary, it is during puberty that sexual awakening makes women desire to have sex the most, not only with other girls but also with boys, out of curiosity. It is rather after this stage, when they have already experienced heterosexual sex, that they become more selective to the point of not wanting to be with a man and start to hate men, sometimes due to bad experiences with chads.

Just don't become trans, don't fall for that
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This phenomenon has me more suspicious and considering the theory that something was done to women on a mass scale to make them less attracted to men, it just doesn't really make sense that the sexes of a species would just collectively not be attracted to each other whilst having the mutually compatible sexual anatomy.

Might just be coping on my mind but this all seems kinda fishy.
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>women arent attracted to men
Maybe the bluepill was right all along. Maybe women do like guys who are charismatic.
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>>84688255
That's the problem. Historically it got so bad that only 1 man reproduced for every 17 women. Societies have been set up that every woman gets to reproduce. In fact, every woman is even encouraged to reproduce without any sort of oversight. This means there is exactly ZERO selective pressure against women. All the fucked up traits we see in women today got to sneak their way through history. Heterosexual men were selected for in history. Heterosexual women weren't because every closeted lesbian would get married off regardless of her input.

Women didn't evolve under equality and so that now that we're living in a pseudo "equality," or simply freedom, we're finding women were never bred to actively find men attractive. Evolution selects for heterosexuality so after a few centuries all the dyke-brained women would have failed to reproduce and only the women that genuinely find men attractive will reproduce and pass on their genes. Basically humanity is need of a correction because selection on female's sexuality was entirely suppressed historically.
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>>84687148
they want their beast of burden to be successful
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>>84679768
i'm perfectly heterosexual. i have even smelled a guy's pillow because i liked him (don't ask how that happened i just got the chance and no we were never together lmao).
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Having fallen down the AGP rabbit hole I do think there's a lot of merit in the trans cope that AGP is just female sexuality.
I think women are uncomfortable acknowledging it because to talk about it sounds very self centered and narcissistic.

Women seem to be more into themselves and the idea of being hot than the man they're with. You've gotta make her feel hot. To some degree that means being "hot" yourself (high status) but it also means hitting her with the precise amount of simping and neglect.

AGP is a mental case and I think troons are right when they say it's just women's sexuality.
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>>84679768
so basically being gay is gross, a mental illness and you could get aids and die.
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>>84688641
That's the thing. Most women are gay. No one is telling them to stop acting gay either.



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