"She doesn't love you if you don't fuck on the first date" is just a male tactic for easy sex and I'm tired of people pretending it isn't.
>>84708580How can you love anyone on the first date
>>84708592I've met gen Z men both online and irl who turned down women for not fucking them immediately on the first day they meet. First generation to be mindraped by social media they see people as wojaks.
>>84708580why is the kid red? why are zoomers like this?
>>84708580If you don't plap her on the first date you are pretty much a beta cuck, because you can be sure she let some Chad plap her on the first date at some point
>>84708580A man needs some affirmation you actually desire him and aren't just using him as a betabux prospect. Since women's bar for casual sex is higher than for relationships, if she hooks up with you, it's a good sign that she is actually into you. You could argue it screws over women who don't have a history or desire to engage in casual sex, but that's the market modern women created by engaging in causal sex en masse, instead of withholding sex only for relationships. Men aren't going to martyr themselves in this environment for your convenience.
>>84708625You're gonna end up with a cheating whore for a gf and you'll have no one to blame but yourself
>>84708580Only counts for a virgin under the age of 22 otherwise kys you fucking whore who already got filled by other men's cock sex on the first date or gtfo. Lust and attraction are the pillars of a relationship.
>>84708633>You could argue it screws over women who don't have a history or desire to engage in casual sex,Do you realise this screws over men even more because you're basically filtering out everyone who isn't a whore?
>>84708634I'm incel, I won't be getting any gf, I'm just telling it how it is. If you start a relationship with plapped goods and she withholds sex from you, you are already cucked.
>>84708649>under the age of 22Sorry for being autistic guess I'll die alone.
>>84708625Hilarious that you guys keep complaining that girls aren't virgins, then demanding sex after the first date.If a girl is a vigin, its because she values herself beyond the attention any suitors may give her. We refrain from sex because we dont feel like the person is the right one.
>>84708633>Men aren't going to martyr themselves in this environment for your convenience.I'm not going to pass my womb around for men's convenience either so I guess we'll both be single.
>>84708656Women who have no history or desire to engage in casual sex are in the minority. Many of them are also already in relationships. As a guy in the dating market you're realistically not getting with them. The kind of women you're realistically getting with have through their behavior demonstrated the capacity to engage in casual sex. So as a man you adjust accordingly instead of assuming otherwise and fucking yourself ten times over. The market is what it is. You either adapt or you opt out.
>>84708712You're confused. Whatever I demand, most women aren't virgins. This is a fact that can't be changed by my attitude.
>>84708580>"She doesn't love you if you don't fuck on the first date" is just a male tactic for easy sex and I'm tired of people pretending it isn't.It's kinda a dumb campaign because if you are on a first date, you aren't in love.>A better strategy>If she isn't giving you sex but lets other dudes she isn't dating smash don't talk to her anymore.This pisses women off more because it points out 2 things. They don't have anything to offer other than sex and they aren't willing to give a good friend something that they give freely to randos, and if she's doing stuff with other people she isn't willing to do for you it is a sign of disrespect and you both should peacefully go your seperate ways>Women will then sperg about "muh nody muh choice" or "my friends aren't entitled to sex with me">Remind them they are absolutely correct, and she is not entitled to friendship, is not reserving sex only fir people she is in a relationship with, and parting ways is perfectly rational and polite.Women lose their fucking mind and overlook the whole part about not being a whore and only having sex with your boyfriend.
>>84708633Women who have casual sex with men on dating apps end up worse off both mentally and physically to the point it affects their future relationships. If this is the meta then don't be surprised when we choose celibacy.
>>84708725How the fuck am I supposed to get a relationship if men demand my virginity on the first date?I DIDNT ASK TO BE A BLACK AUTISTIC FEMCEL WHO JUST WANTS A WHOLESOME RELATIONSHIP, FUCKING FUCK ALL OF YOU.
>>84708716>>84708744You can do whatever you want. I'm just explaining a pragmatic reason behind this first date sex demand. That it's not merely an desire for hedonistic pleasure, but it also works a selection strategy to adapt and maximize one's long term outcomes in the modern dating market as a man.
>>84708580>be male>almost time for my hot date>consult secret book of male tactics>the date goes well, we really hit it off>I drive her home, just as the handbook instructed>she doesn't invite me inside>playing hard to get, eh? luckily, I came prepared.>plan b>"Wait! If we don't have sex on the first date, that means you don't love me!">she freezes, unable to take a single step away from me without exposing herself as a shallow gold diggerheh. works every time.
im a zoomette virgin and honestly dating sounds like such a fucking headache i don't see the point. i'm not even ugly i just don't want to deal with men's bpd whore baggage.>nyoo you must let me mistreat you because of my ex! you must pay for her sins! you musnt have boundaries for someone who has a 90% chance of ghosting you if you get pregnant/STIno thanks. i'll goon to LADS thank you.
>>84708580It's a self defense mechanism to protect against becoming the betabuxx wallet. It would be a valid criticism if foids would stop fucking Chad on the first date, or before a date at all.
>>84708803Good go and buy the shit I advertise online targeted for middle aged single women so I can fuck 18 year old girls in the third world :)
>>84708764Well, first of all I'm sorry that you feel distressed. Please understand, that I only explained a sort of reasoning that goes into a specific demand you may see manifested out in the world. You don't have to do anything you feel uncomfortable with. It also doesn't mean every man will have that demand. You can have boundaries and you can stick to those boundaries. It's okay. Some guys are going to walk away because of that, but it's also okay and doesn't necessarily mean they are bad dudes. I wish you all the best <3
>>84708814so your "self-defense mechanism" is demanding that non-whore women become promiscuous and disregard their sexual health in the hopes of getting a boyfriend how about i dont play your game
>>84708592you can if he's tall>>84708609that means they're short and they were never going to have sex with her at all, good for them>>84708634we're going to end up with no gf at all, that's the point>>84708712girls aren't virgins at all, they have sex in middle school
>>84708830Holy simp cuck kys hahahaha. She will not give you her hole.
>>84708824Obvious seething hag. Ai will replace you
>>84708832>non-whore womenwho?>disregard their sexual healthhow about you stop fucking drug dealers before worrying about catching AIDS from a male virgin
>>84708838No need to be rude. I'm not looking for a "hole". I just want to be nice and not cause undue distress.
>>84708803>im a zoomette virginyou're not but if you were it's just because you're gigachad only and haven't met one yet
>>84708830Thanks I guess I really hate this world though I was born in the wrong generation. I'm going to be very open about my intentions when/if I do start.>>84708838How the fuck would I give my vagina to someone over 4chan retard I probably don't even live in the same continent as them.
>>84708841Based anon BTFOing yellow fever lesbian pedophiles
>>84708803goon to what
>>84708864No reatard. That was directed to the male. Can you read tard
People who fuck strangers are basically signalling they have mental problems and tend to be the type of people who get divorced via adultery, or falling into some drug/alcohol addiction. It just screams instability to me.
>>84708901Yeah I kind of find it weird how men obsessively try to attract whores despite loudly talking about how much they hate them, even though half of my female friendgroup are sexless spergs who were scared off by said behavior.
>>84708901We're all strangers if you really think about it. It's kind of absurd to just like, marry someone and let them live with you forever. Even if it's not a divorcerape situation and it all works out, they're still just some foid you picked up off the street and brought home.
>>84708580The issue is not her not fucking on the first date, the issue is her not fucking YOU on the first date. She has spread her asscheeks for dozens of men she didn't even knew the names of, and you are supposed to be the cuck who needs to jump through the hoops to get a whiff of pussy. If she was a virgin I would literally wait until marriage if that's what she wanted and it would only make me respect her even more.
>>84708931Casual sex is cormorbid with drug addiction, higher divorce rate, and mental illness, Americans really think everyone is a drug abusing whore like they are.
>>84708901>>84708928Lol just kys you worthless fucks I will fuck thousands of cute young women and then settle down with a young virgin while you seethe.
>>84708803not to mention people never put their best foot forward when dating, they either try too hard or just hide their personality. the date is always an act.
>>84708949Pedodyke is seething ohno
>>84708944>bringing up americans out of nowhere award>>>/int/
>>84708580This is nonsense. You should never fuck on a first date, it's trashy.
