I wish I had someone to talk to about this.
>>84729796mine never even began my libido is dead
>>84729796genuine question: why cant you just jerk off or somethingsurely she isn't saying no 100% of the time
>>84729814I jerk off everyday. She's clearly depressed but does nothing to try to improve.
>>84729814Women are an expense.If you're not getting pussy then it's kind of like having a subscription service that you don't use charged on your credit card every month and you can't cancel it
>>84729854>she's depressed>the problem is muh sexBreak up with her, she will be better off without a sex pest.
>>84729854oh :[ hmm that's different then... !! idk what her circumstances are but she needs to seek out help.. if not for herself, then for you!! this is how i used to frame it back when i had depression. hated myself but i didn't want to hurt other ppl>>84729881dating = paying for pussyuhmmmmhmhmm hmmmm okay i guess if that works for you :D
>>84729922I'm trying to help but she doesn't do anything. I weirdly want to cheat and be loyal at the same time.
>>84729928sometimes people cannot be helped and will push the people around them away. it's unfair and it sucks for everyone. such is life>I weirdly want to cheat and be loyal at the same time.if you cheat you should blow your head off, break up if you feel this way omfg
>>84729796well this isn't the place normalnigger. get lost
>>84729928That's how every man in this situation feels. And I'm telling you now, it's only going to get worse. She isn't going to get better. You need to start thinking about cutting your losses. Don't do it right away, but put the thought in your mind. Get your ducks in a row, then tell her things need to change if she wants the relationship to continue. If she puts in effort, then give her more chances and stick with her. If she doesn't, then set up everything you need to gtfo, and then dump her.Doing anything except what I've just told you is going to lead you down a path of endless misery. It's not just better for you to do what I said, but it's better for her as well. Letting her stay in a stagnant and depressed state is not good for either of you.
>>84729951I've dumped so much into this relationship I don't want to let it go
>>84729915Sex is part of relationships. If you aren't giving your partner sexual satisfaction then you aren't being a good partner. Full stop. And I've been on both ends of this. I once had a nympho gf and I would get tired of banging her all the time and just finger her or use a toy, and eventually started avoiding her so I didn't have to fuck, which was obviously bad. And I've had a low libido depressed gf who I tolerated for way too long, while jerking off like OP. It was sad and lame and I should have dumped her a long time ago but I put up with it because I "loved her" AKA I was holding onto someone who was good for me in the past but was only dragging me down in the present. Don't fall into that trap.
>>84729998Did you try to dig it out?
>>84729998>Sex is part of relationships.>If you aren't giving your partner sexual satisfaction then you aren't being a good partner.gulp !!
>>84729995Yeah, I know how you feel. Read this >>84729998You're only dragging it out and prolonging the inevitable if she won't change. I wasted 6 years on the low libido depressed gf. 6 years, anon. I should have dumped her after year 1, but I let it drag on for 5 more years. It's called the sunken cost fallacy. It never improved, in fact it only got worse over time. And she continued to spend ever more irresponsibly and hoard ever more useless junk. I kept thinking, "Oh we'll work it out eventually, and things will go back to how they were." That never happened. It was pure delusion. And the worst part is, she stuck a knife in my back and twisted it in the end. If I had just cut my losses alllll the way back then, none of it would have happened and I would be way better off today.Incels have no idea how much a bad relationship can damage you. I was very badly damaged by this experience.
>>84730034I've got a 1 year plan to fix things. If it's not better then I'm out.
>>84729814You can whack off as the sex wanter in a slanted libido relationship, but it does start to chip away at your self esteem.I should know, I just whacked off while my husband toodled around in our basement on his LLM
>>84730057tbf i recognize i'm a wacky outlier (clearly) but i really cannot see sex as something that importantif i get some stupid ass biological urge to get off, i can just take care of it myself or not at all
>>84730051performance improvement plan
>>84729796A girlfriend isn't a wife.If you've already discussed it with her a few times you should break up imo.You're just making everything more delayed and miserable for both of you and your future wife.
>>84730033Friendship may be more your speed
>>84730066It's more about the feeling of rejection than anything else. That's what chips away at your self-esteem. This doesn't happen if you're single. But every time you jerk off while in a relationship, it makes you feel shittier.
>>84729796>I wish I had someone to talk to about this.You're on a board full of angry virgin incels, maybe try LITERALLY ANYWHERE ELSE, FAGGOT
>>84730086Am I on Blind?
>>84730112too late i already got a bfgulp x2!!!!!!!
>>84730131>gulp x2!!!!!!!It sounds like you're already practicing. Remember, no teeth!
>>84730145>CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP MONch CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP monch monch
>>84730114Every time, it's just like this man.
>>84729998Virtually everything matters more than sex. If she is depressed and all you can do is think with your dick you're already being a horrendous partner.
>>84730251i must second this but i am god's mightiest sex-hater so no surprise here
>sex life is deadI don't understand this. Why not just have sex? it's so simple but it means so much. She doesn't even have to do anything on her part. So it makes me come to the conclusion that "dead bedrooms" are really just dead relationships, because the woman suddenly became disgusted with her partner. that's why she simply won't open her legs. Depression is just one excuse.
>>84730183Why do you cum on your hand. Are you retarted?
>but our sex life is deadYour relationship is dead. Leave her.Cunts who stop putting out should be dumped, always.Even more so if there is no marriage or kids.I've been incel way too long to ever accept a dead bedroom.
men are always about sex sex sex. fucking disgusting animals
women are always about money money attention. fucking disgusting animals.
I used to have this issue but I'm a woman and my man doesn't want sex. If I try to force him he is just limp and hurting.Over time I got used to it, poisoned myself with glp chemicals so now I can afford to not care and this just made my love stronger. I was low-key hoping that without my sexual attraction I'd find it easy to dump him and all but lmao no, I am at a state where I would sacrifice everything to be with him one more day.
>>84731288So stay out of a relationship then. Or go lesbian and never fuck. Fucking idiot.
>>84731383kys coombrain nigger
I'm at like once a month average with current gf which is lame as fuck I cant lie, last time was 5 weeks although she was ill for a week so fucked up the chances. Usually its when shes ovulating. I've prodded and poked to see if its because she doesn't either love me or find me attractive anymore and shes adamant its not that and she does flirt sometimes and compliments me whenever I see her irl and it seems genuine but idk. I'm in very good shape and have a full head of hair and im not deformed and whenever we do have sex she cums on my dick so idk why sex is so infrequent.
>>84731327>my man doesn't want sexLike ever?
you niggers are so dumb it's unreal PLEASE get it through your idiot skullsif your girl isn't as enthusiastic about you (on all fronts including sexual) as you are about her then you are just a placeholder and you are wasting your time
>>84732658>Usually its when shes ovulatingYeah she's definitely not attracted to you
>>84732693she gets very jealous over other women though, one time we were out at a gig and a girl came up to me and started trying to play with my hair, said I had a gf and gestured to her, didn't care and did it again then my gf punched her. We also never had tonnes of sex to begin with though and shes a bit of a strange person so idk, its probably true, not sure how to get her to be attracted to me.
>>84732786Yeah that bitch was trying to muscle in on her betabuxx. She knows that if you get real satisfaction from someone else, she loses her power over you.I probably shouldn't recommend you commit a felony against her but...
>>84732868>betabuxxthing is I dont really spend anything on her, met when I was unemployed and had no money and I dont tell her how much I have, which nowadays is a good amount of savings I had through trading and general saving from my government job. I do wonder what shes getting out of this if I'm this unattractive dude who doesn't spend money on her, most I'll do is a ''sweet treat'' and maybe a coffee in a blue moon but ive never bought her anything substantial. Wonder what the angle is.
When I was born, my urethra was crooked and the backwoods doctor that fixed it fucked it up, killing a lot of my nerve endings. I can cum from mental stimulation and tight enough pressure, but holes don't really feel like anything special to me. My wife and I have been together for 6 years, and her libido only ever gets higher. She wants to fuck 2-3 times a day minimum, and while I love the benefits of how much she actually wants me, it's become such a chore. I feel like the trophy wife that has to get dicked down for a few minutes to maintain her lifestyle, but I still have to work and deal with the typical whiny irrational nonsense that all women are made out of.
>>84732968Cruel joke of fate
>>84732685Well he wants it like once in three monthsHe doesnt jerk off either, he says it is uncomfortable, and he doesnt like washing his dick because of it either, he says he needs to force a boner to do it and it is painful to do. He doesnt have phimosis technically, but I guess for him it feels like he has.
>Sex with gf once a week despite living together >(We used to go at it once a day or more)>She still constantly yaps about wanting to get married
>>84732606Rope, frigid cunt.
>>84733914coom coom sex uuuuuuuugh coooom I need too cooooooooooommmm
You'd find more success actually discussing this with your partner than random people on 4chan.
>>84733932>noooooo i made you promise not to fuck anyone else but i wont fuck you either for no reason, tee hee hee!
>>84733937originally who are you quoting?
>>84730251sex is like the toilet in the house, you cannot have one without, nor should it be the main focus>>84730034absolutely grim, but I dumped mine after a year because she wanted to save herself for marriage, fuck that
>>84734004Same strawman you are, retard.
>>84734060If she was a virgin, then I would accept my gf saving herself for marriage. I think the idea of that is nice. But if she wasn't a virgin then no fucking way. You're paying full price for used goods.
>>84734078it comes a point in a relationship when her fear of sex is just an expression of her fear of you, of her mistrust of you, and of her inability to feel happiness with you, not to mention the entire dumb idea of letting your emotion and feelings and intimacy be controlled by some crusty schizo incel monk and his dumb ramblingswhich is how I interpreted it any way and you are free to think otherwisecaring for your virginity is cute when you are a teen, but after a certain time when you are over 20 it is just pathetic
>>84729796It's called Dead bedroom and you're an oofy doofy
Fearing the dead bedroom I became determined never to fap. Lean hard into the manly need argument and just a quicky. This foresight was very good as we have what is essentially a, dead bedroom, she never wants or initiates sex, but since it's become the norm she just accepts it or suggests laying on her side and I "pump the cum into her" with a hand assisted irrumatio.I'd rather the crazy sex we had years ago but at least I never have to do with feelings of rejection. She doesn't like sex but I do and is willing to lay still for three minutes for my sake. I can't say she's good at sex really, but she knows what gets me off the quickest, prone with lube or side lying oral.Strangely, handjob is supposed to be the consolation prize for not getting laid, but when she's actually kind of in the mood she makes that feel like something special so it's what I look forward to most because she rarely benevolates me by indulging this way. It is imperative to very early in a relationship make going to bed with a boner non-negotiable. Apparently repeated rejection is hell on a man's psyche, but whether she's into it or not it still feels like love if she provides the needed relief. I don't know why this isn't talked about more. Normie advice is always you bring in all the money but how often do you cook supper, scrub the toilets, or fold her laundry. As if pulling double duty as the man and being the wife too will magically get the pussy purring and horny for dick. It's secretly good for her too, because she feels desired and like she did something even if it's just holding still long enough to pre and roll over. I think what happens is dead bedrooms is she denies sex then gets mad at him for not fucking her, even though she's the reason in doesn't happen. They don't operate on human logic or reason so creating habits and routine is essential to long term relationship hygiene.
>>84735194fuck this, normalise men having a mistress. We need to return to the dynamic of wife who never puts out and husband who bangs his mistress. No, she cant have the equivalent, if she doesn't enthusiastically put out then its mistressmaxxing time.
>>84735194Eh. Fucking a disinterested wife is only ever so marginally better than being flat out rejected. I wouldn't accept that either. It's fucking lame.
>>84735273the mistress doesn't want to have sex with you either
>>84735194>I think what happens is dead bedrooms is she denies sex then gets mad at him for not fucking her, even though she's the reason in doesn't happen.This has unironically happened to me. It was the moment I had an epiphany and realized women are actually completely fucking insane. I've never viewed women as intellectual equals since this interaction/conversation.
>>84735273I'm a homebody. I designed my career around getting part time that pays like a full time. Honestly in some ways quickies are better than full blown sex. I'm doing whatever I'm into or work until I'm tired of it. We have another rule, when I go to bed it's bedtime, even if she's just reading or whatever until I fall asleep and then sneaks back to the living room or her room after. Contentment isn't a very exciting word to describe a relationship, but it's comfy. Check-in on each other's life so we don't ever feel like strangers or roommates while I have a nightcap, quick coom, snuggle a few minutes, sleep.Bird in the hand logic maybe, but I'm not bothering with lies about overtime unless my mistress has ZZZ cup tiddies, red hair down to her ankles, and lactates like a fire hydrant. After a nut I just want to pass out. Preferably in a bed that smells like us with my autism rain sound machine and a nightstand full of gummy worms and alcohol. It's hard enough living one life. A second life is just more stress.
>>84735354NTA but I probably rejected somewhere around 20 women while I was with my ex and at the height of actually trying to be normie, having a job that required me to be physically present and going to social gatherings consistently. Anytime she felt threatened by another woman, she would enthusiastically fuck me that night. Unfortunately this made me lean into making her jealous so I could get sex, but that was not good for the long term.
>>84735354I could literally get one, ive had four women hit on me in my own apartment block
>>84729796Get freaky pee on her then slap her around a
>>84735354I wonder what it's like to even have a mistress.
