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don't let people gaslight you, evil is evil no matter what the DSM says
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>>84736260
She looks bpd so she shouldnt be listened to on the topic
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>>84736260
bunch of retards stroking eachother off i'm sure, but i'll bite i have nothing to do right now. will report back.
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>>84736276
Yeah I bet you would get down on your knees and bite when a bunch of retards are stroking each other you homo
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>>84736289
this slow and methodical way of talking from both of them is kind of annoying. i hate podcasts. also fuck you faggot.
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I'm a BPD male and it's impossible to know if it's genetic.
My father obviously has it, so I got his genes.
But both of my parents are very fucked up, emotionally immature alcoholics.
So was it because of how they raised me, my genes, or both?
Probably both.

We aren't evil. BPD has tons of guilt and shame - today opposite of ASPD and NPD, even if our actions are similar in stressful situations, our motives are opposite and wholesome. We just want love and security but we are insane and mentally like small children.
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>>84736321
you need a lot of emotional maturity to properly engage with someone who has BPD, but if you do then its fine. also the only women who will ever truly love a man that isn't chad.
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>>84736321
>We aren't evil
Yes you are.
>BPD has tons of guilt and shame
feeling guilty doesn't absolve you
>our motives are opposite and wholesome
stop gaslighting people
>We just want love and security
you want excitement, don't know what love is, and don't deserve security
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>>84736321
>We aren't evil
Just abusive, gaslighting, chronic liars, cheaters. But not evil no.
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>>84736388
>Just abusive, gaslighting, chronic liars, cheaters. But not evil no.
I've never cheated. I've never intentionally abused, gaslit or lied. In fact, I never lie. But I am a guy so I'm different than those ladies.

>>84736364
I'm no more evil than an average person. I know guilt doesn't absolve me but it makes my behavior qualitatively different than that of a sociopath or an intentionally abusive malicious person. I don't intentionally gaslight anybody, but when we have BPD you're talking to somebody with a totally distorted perceptive of reality, and if you fall into our frame then yeah it's gaslighting because you're in an alternate reality with us. But we're not intentionally trying to make you crazy. I don't want excitement. I don't know what love is. Everyone deserves the love and security though.

>>84736361
Yeah, this is correct. If you're emotionally mature enough, you can handle us and you can get some everlasting intense love. Less intense than us that are peak but still a level of loyalty I think would be rare to find
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>>84736321
>BPD has tons of guilt and shame - today opposite of ASPD and NPD

NPD is the most shame-prone personality disorder, no one feels as much toxic shame as narcissists.
Guilt is rare yes, but not abscent in NPD people.
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>>84736575
>I've never intentionally abused
That's what my BPD ex gf said too. She somehow mentally justified that screaming and shouting at me was not abusive.
>I never lie
That's what she said as well, despite constantly lying about things I did or did not do, to justify her meltdowns and her abusive behavior.
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>>84736634
Intentions matter even if the action is the same. Also those weren't lies they were delusions. That's the definition of delusional thinking
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>>84737158
>it wasn't a lie it was just a lie++



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