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How many of you would get an abortion if you found out that your child would have some terminal disease or learning disability?
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>>84744166
what makes you think I will ever have kids? look at me nigga I'm disgusting
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All babies should be aborted.

Someone should give Matt Walsh a late term abortion. Look at how well it worked with Charlie Kirk. Everyone is happier now.
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>>84744166
I already have a disability and I wish I was aborted
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>>84744166
People acting like Down syndrome kids are not a huge burden for life. Also claiming aborting a baby before consciousness is murder, if thats the case ive killed 100s of millions of children i shot into a tissue
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>>84744201
I have a disability and am glad I wasn't aborted
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>>84744208
Down syndrome children are basically status symbol pets for suburban white moms
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>>84744208
Buddy, the christfags go so far as to claim that you're sinning every time you jizz in your sleep.
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>>84744208

I don't get consciousness argument cause most babies aren't conscious at age of 1, 2 or 3 yet killing them is obviously wrong. Is it cause killing baby in womb is less visible compared to killing one in your hand who's breathing.
>>84744231
What disability?
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>>84744166
Abortion is murder and goes against God's plan.
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>>84744290
>most babies aren't conscious at age of 1, 2 or 3
The fuck are you talking about?

I have memories from approx. 6 months onward. It's unusual to retain them into adulthood, but not at all uncommon to find in children.
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>>84744166
terminal disease is quite different from learning disability wtf
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>>84744318
>I have memories from approx. 6 months onward
No you don't, you are most likely stealing stuff from some tv show.
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>>84744316
God planned for the abortion. Why do you think you know better than God? That's a sin, you know.
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>>84744316
>muh sky man said
kek
well my god is a 50 foot tall naked woman with laser nipples and a super jiggly butt that constantly vibrates and she can beat your god in a fight and she says abortions are epic and should be done via kickboxing
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>>84744318
>memories do not correlate with sentience


Your conscious across most of 2025 but do you remember what you did last year at 4:00 pm 06/05/2025>>84744358
Sky daddy thing is retarded stop using it as an argument anon
>>84744328
I think autistic people should be aborted
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>>84744358
What's retarded is trying to use your God to dictate the lives of others. YOU can follow and believe whatever the fuck you want, anything beyond that and you're just being an annoying shitbag.
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>>84744166
>some of the happiest people you'll ever meet
normies cant differentiate between external "happiness" and internal happiness. my dad told me i was a happy kid growing up but i was completely miserable. i think i have some form of retardation in expressing emotions. i dont think people with down syndrome are actually "happy" at all.
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>>84744336
Shut up, retard.

I remember what it was like before I could walk or talk. I remember that after my birth, my father attempted to keep up his hobby of brewing beer. The carboy of bubbling brown liquid on the floor of our kitchen was intensely fascinating to baby me. I learned to crawl specifically because I wanted to get closer to it. Once I accomplished that, I promptly shoved the rubber stopper holding the airlock, into the carboy, ruining a batch of beer. The last batch my father brewed.

Twenty years later, I pulled that carboy out of my parents' garage, crushed up the dried out rubber stopper that was still inside, and brewed my own beer.
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>>84744426
>I remember what it was like before I could walk or talk. I remember that after my birth, my father attempted to keep up his hobby of brewing beer.


It's very easy for brain to make false memories anons.
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>>84744166
He's completely correct. And yes I would abort. I don't want to raise a retard. It's not just about the extra effort required, but the fact that a retard will never achieve anything on their own, never grow into an intelligent person you can watch grow and flourish and have with them a deep lifelong relationship. You will just be stuck with this barely functioning being maintaining their existence just for its own sake.
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>>84744481
So if ur son was normal and became retarded you'd kill him you freak?
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>>84744166
Dawn syndrome can be detected in less than 12 weeks which is the limit in which abortions are allowed
It's not there yet, it doesn't exist, to think of the hypothetical where the person is born and exists is pointless
And most people with down syndrome are very low functioning if they look happy it's probably because they don't even have the capacity to tell
not wanting to have a kid with FAS by avoiding drinking doesn't mean you think people with FAS don't deserve to live
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>>84744426
>I remember that after my birth, my father attempted to keep up his hobby of brewing beer.
Look at 300 giga IQ over here, even understanding unspoken cues as a baby (or maybe it was spoken and his understanding of language was unprecedented)
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>>84744671
He probably reconstructed memory while hearing it from his parents
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>>84744166
You could make this argument for lots of stuff, what if youre born with neurological chemicals that make you want to die 24/7 and not care about anything? And psych meds dont work, and you refuse to do hard drugs. Thats me, who just depended on gooning and tasty food all my life to try to be a functional member of society. Oh and got judged for being a coomer glutton by people who were born with normal happy brain chemicals and thought their sky daddy would disapprove of my indulgences (that literally kept me from killing myself for years). I know I would have been happier if I was just aborted, I was even born not breathing and should have died, but muh modern medicine (aka torture science) "saved" me. So I was forced against my will and nature to live a life of suffering. The fact I was born about to die literally meant that I wasn't supposed to live, muh modern medicine went against God's will and nature because they want life long patients to torture and make money from. I think if a baby can't survive without external meds ththen its probably too weak to live a decent life.
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>>84744166
Yeah I would. I'm not bringing a retarded or mutant baby into this world.
>>84744208
>if thats the case ive killed 100s of millions of children i shot into a tissue
This nigger-IQ argument needs to die. There's a huge difference between a zygote and a sperm cell. You don't sound like you're being clever and pwning the christcucks when you say this, you just sound like a retard with no knowledge of biology.
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>>84744166
The first episode of Sons of Anarchy deals with this. Abel is really sick and doctors aren't sure he is going to make it.
They basically say you cannot give up on your kid. If you as their parent give up on them, they are done. If you can't believe your child is going to live and make it, nobody else will. Don't give up on your kids!
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>>84744671
I can re-interpret my memories with current knowledge, bud. Adding in information to make an easy to follow story.

I didn't understand what beer was, at that time. Had no idea my father intended to drink it, the effects of alcohol, that yeast consumes sugar and produces alcohol, et cetera. I was completely mystified by why he was so angry about the pushed in stopper, though I did know I wasn't supposed to touch it, and was immediately aware that I'd done something wrong when I pushed it in, as my mother had caught me poking at it a couple times already, and admonished me.
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>>84744702
You are just talking about chemicals in your brain, hard drugs and gooning. You never think about how you can contribute, how you can help make the world a better place. Just feeling sorry for yourself.
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>>84744729
What if ur son has no disabilities but is physically ugly
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>>84744166
This is that territory i split off from the religionfags on, I think they're generally in the right when it comes to fetuses being considered human life, but I differ on two maybe three parts regarding abortion
>ectopic/risky pregnancy
At the risk of the mothers life it becomes one life for a life if the birth is maintained, since it's 1 for 1 an abortion in this scenario is as much a preservation of life as a prevention, canceling out any moral conundrum

>baby is born with serious defects
Depends on the defect but if the child's intelligence is unaffected I envision it from my point of view, it would be miserable to be born with a serious defect and I would hate living, however I can't say with certainty the child would also hate living so it's not a guarantee you're preventing suffering, unless it's a defect that includes recurring pain in the child. I have had a relative with epilepsy and extreme headaches where they would write about wishing for death for years until eventually dying, I see that kind of life as so miserable that a prevention would more likely be a mercy, but I'm sure there's people with such conditions who don't want to die for years, so I would file it under complicated. I wouldn't find it morally questionable to abort here, even if you can dispute the prevention of suffering as an assumption.

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>>84744776
I'd strangle him to death and make a new son.
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>>84744782
Now something like down syndrome, it skews the way they see the world. They're basically overgrown children forever. Dependent, only able to do low skilled labor anything higher imo reduces the quality of the work they can do in that job compared to a normal person. But they're usually happier than the regular people I've met. Is it a prevention of suffering? I don't think so. From a perspective on what makes society efficient you could argue its just to abort them, but I think it falls more under eugenics at this point, rather than suffering/moral question. I can understand doing it for your own quality of life, I don't consider it a morally good option, I would probably file it under selfish, but I would also not question the person doing it, because it's ultimately about accepting a lifelong burden on you, rather than 18 years of one assuming your child functions correctly. I would compare killing someone with downs syndrome to putting your dog down earlier than necessary, but even that is flawed as the dog is unlikely to live past 20.

>rape
Not morally good, selfish, but it's an undesired burden inflicted on an individual, so I wouldn't hold it against somebody who gets one.

I'm probably more liberal on abortion because I'm also thinking about niggers, but that doesn't really qualify in the moral dilemma.

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>>84744700
I reconstructed my parents memories. When I found the stopper in the carboy decades later, my mother remembered nothing about it. My father did recall, presumably because his anger and frustration made it more memorable.

How about a story that my parents could not possibly have told me? I had a drop-side crib, which I learned how to escape shortly after I learned how to walk. I would spend the nights wandering around the house while my parents slept. I was never caught. I later taught my younger sister how to escape the same crib, so she could play with me at night. She was caught. My parents only learned about my nighttime wandering when I told them about fifteen years later, which my sister confirmed.
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>>84744795
(Additional thought)
Regarding the rape abortions and unnecessary burden, you could argue any birth would be an unnecessary burden, however the difference between general irresponsible behavior and a forced act committed on the individual presents a distinct dilemma, some calling it committing evil after one was committed upon you. However I would consider it closer to the downs syndrome dilemma as it is not due to the behavior of the individual who was impregnated, assuming a genuine rape. You do not anticipate giving birth to a retard as you do not anticipate being forcibly incubated, these conditions are abnormal and reduce the moral concern for me personally.

So that would probably cover all the situations where I wouldn't hold it against somebody personally. General abortions born of irresponsible behavior I do look down on and find the general flippant attitude about it abhorrent, even if it's a means of ridding oneself of guilt.
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>>84744772
Its basically impossible to contribute to society if youre literally being tortured by your own body/brain all the time. And also being hurt and sabotaged and misled by people all your life, with barely any help or guidance or protection. So which is it? Was I just born to be a punching bag victim who's also tortured by their own neurology, or born to be a contributing member of society? Fuck off you don't know my life. You need to give people a decent life and biology and protection and guidance if you want them to contribute to society. All being kind and loving to society has gotten me is abuse and being used and screwed over.
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>>84744166
Thats the actual reason for abortions
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May God forgive the whores who aborted their children. I will not.
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>>84744328
Its a chromosome disorder not a mere learning disability. In bio terms downies are a new species due to how weird their base genetic structure is.
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>>84744874
So how did Stephen Hawking do it?
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>>84744208
>if thats the case ive killed 100s of millions of children i shot into a tissue
Are you retarded
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>>84744166
as a nurse who has worked with many child patients with birth defects, i 1000% agree that aborting a child with a condition like down syndrome is the ethical choice. my heart breaks for every one of these kids and i love helping them but deep down, behind my professionalism, i absolutely resent their parents. most of them are cousin fucking brown immigrants who already have many other disabled kids btw but also some insufferable white parents who knew the kid would be disabled and using their disability for their own disgusting spiritual/religious agenda.

these kids require 24/7 care until the day they die and suffer horribly when they do end up losing their parents. calling them the "happiest people you'll meet" is crazy. they barely understand anything. there are so many cases where getting aborted is a better fate than being born. anyone who thinks otherwise should try taking care of a down syndrome child for one day, then talk.
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>>84744813
If what you're saying is really true that's an extreme outlier
Did you have pictures from that time? I had some memories mixed up then realized it was from pictures I saw
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>>84744914
People cared about him, he had a high iq, and his brain chemicals didn't make him want to die all the time. If he was some tard with bad iq then no one but his family would have given a shit about him. Don't pretend like most people care about someone genetically inferior unless they have some special ability that they can profit off of/use. I was mostly ignored by everyone or bullied for all my life because frail and female and normal iq and not beautiful, until some pieces of shit found out I had certain special DNA and abilities, and then ruined my life and tried to hurt and use me and force me to do things for them. Being gifted doesn't automatically make you a leader or a special person, it just makes you a target if you don't have protection or people who care about you. If I was born male and in a different family but with similar DNA, my life would have been 1000x different and better. You faggots don't understand what's it like being someone gifted but denied your rightful high position or not being able to accomplish anything because someone wants to hurt and use you for their own gain.
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>>84744977
Note to self: never go to a hospital
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>>84744914
Hawkings science competence predated his neural disorder paralyzing him, so he was already set to progress once it became a genuine problem
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>>84745063
yes, please don't come so you die whenever you have a health crisis and we don't have to serve retards like you.
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>>84744166
I would. I don't care if its murder or not; I dont have the patience or money to deal with something like that.
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Yes, I don't want to deal with this. I don't even want to have normal kids because it's too much work.
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>>84744874
>>Its basically impossible to contribute to society if youre literally being tortured by your own body/brain all the time
>>84745033
>his brain chemicals didn't make him want to die all the time
You should actually listen to people with Lou Gehrig's disease describe how their illness makes them feel
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>>84744166
>How many of you would get an abortion if you found out that your child would have some terminal disease or learning disability?
Not that many if you consider the fact that the main reason for abortion is not because of downie children but because the mother just simply dont want the child for whatever social or cultural reason. The percentage of women that perform abortion due to defective children is slightly less then 1%.

Almost 99% of the children aborted are not defective but im gona be generous and say 97% of children aborted are not defective since 2% might have defects that are not visible on ultra sound.
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>>84744208
Also I don't see anything wrong with killing infants as the ancient did
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>>84745154
yeah the ancient people didn't have the technology to abort downies but they abandoned defective infants in the wild to die all the time for a reason
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>>84745102
Idk, as long as you are rewarded for your work you will want to keep trying, no matter how hard life is, thats why even 3rd worlders try. I have been sabotaged countless number of times in school and work, permanently physically hurt, bullied, tricked and forced to do bad job, yet I still went back and kept trying. For example my deli job where the work environment had loud repeated noises and crowds of strangers which severely trigger my sensory issues. I kept trying until I literally had to go to the bathroom every few minutes because the overstimulation made me have multiple breakdowns throughout the day. BTW this was after I got physically attacked by a customer and got a brain injury where my nose bled for a year and I couldn't study technical stuff anymore because of the damage. And I couldn't get medical help for it. Ontop of being oppressed and possessed by faggot demon worshippers demons when I made 1 small mistake or did something wrong out of bitterness. The money from that job? Most of it went to treat cavities or other medical stuff. NO ONE WANTS TO KEEP TRYING IF THEYRE LITERALLY HURT AND SABOTAGED CONSTANTLY AND THEY GET NOWHERE AND HAVE NO PROTECTION. I SHOULD GET A MEDAL FOR NOT GOING ON A KILLING SPREE FOR WHAT I HAD TO ENDURE.
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>>84744193
This.
Extremely based, I'm glad at least one anon here doesn't have their head up their own ass.
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I once had to share some class time with a downie in the third grade, ever since I've believed for total downie death.
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>>84744729
>There's a huge difference between a zygote and a sperm cell

>both are living cells
>both contain human DNA (one has more)
>both have the potential for creating human life

>ur understanding is nigger-tier
Is it? Or do you add a step in this process where a Jewish Genie imbues one of the cells with a special ghost from his ghost jar and gives it magical rights?

It only feels like a cringe pwn because it hasn't been refuted by the Christcucks since the 70s. Grandpa's Roe v Wade.
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>>84744358
>my god is a 50 foot tall naked woman with laser nipples and a super jiggly butt that constantly vibrates and she can beat your god in a fight
Her name is Aerolus Impetus and she would fucking eat Jesus for breakfast. He doesn't even taste good, she'd just do it for fun.

Her first decree is mandatory 'tard abortions. Rule #2: Jacking off is fun and cool. #3: Be excellent to each other.
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>>84744166

>Nobody suffers from Down's

LMAOOOO, normies are so morally bankrupt. They will do anything to maintain their sugarcoated veneer over reality. Absolute hylic behavior.
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>>84744166
I assumed I would have killed someone with Down syndrome until I watched "The Specials" and it's true they are all happier than we are.
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>>84744166
If you knew your baby would be retarded or crippled for life and you didn't get an abortion youd be insane.
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>>84745603
this, quite unoriginally
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>>84745603
>>84745612
It's just a fact that they are happier than you. You're basically killing someone because you are jealous that they are happier than you. If it's about taking resources then you should at least be consistent and want to kill all black people too.
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>>84745620
>"Ignorance is bliss"
That doesn't mean the ignorant have better lives.
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>>84745627
What kind of retarded mental gymnastics is this? More suffering means your life is better? I guess we should stop killing kids born with no limbs then.
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>>84744208
Haploid cells are meaningfully different than diploid cells. There exists no such dividing line after conception that seperates human from non-human, since no meaningful change occurs in the moment before to the moment after birth
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>>84745620
>you should at least be consistent and want to kill all black people too.
What site do you think you're posting on, anon?
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>>84745593
Their happiness is due to how underdeveloped their brains emotional processing is. These things cant feel intense sadness or love
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>>84745668
They are apparently coomers which puts them on equal mental ground with the average 4chan user and most women are incapable of love as well.
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>>84745620
I dont wanna bring someone onto this earth that will be sick every day of their entire life.
Thinking that that is more humane than killing them when they are essentially a bug is delusional.
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>>84745688
They're more akin to a golden retriever than a bug. Let me guess... you're a cat person?
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Humans with lower IQs than niggers like Abos and Khoisan act like giddy moron. Yes I know Abos are violent but its not on par with africans. Whats interesting is that Abo mixes are more frequently violent and belligerent than pure Abos. This suggests that at a certain IQ your monkey giddiness is at war with your monkey ferocity and at a certain IQ your monkey giddiness and ferocity get crushed down
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>>84745638
Nah retard, I'm saying that even if you're so retarded you think you have reason to be happy in spite of your condition, that still doesn't mean you have a better life than someone with a better condition but is "unhappier" than you are.

I can see you personally relate to this topic though so I'll laugh off you. My condolences for your down's syndrome; glad you got to live how you wanted instead of getting aborted as would be recommended.
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>>84745714
You're just jealous retarded people are happier than you and want to kill them for it. That's extremely cringe.
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Whites with frontal lobe damage are more aggressive suggesting theres some base human disposition suppressed by the frontal lobe
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>>84745725
No downies are not even human, they have an extra chromosome they are one of the most bizarre mutations that could happen. The simple fact most animals dont have downie chromosome counts suggests its an objective biological error.
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>>84744166
So just give birth to the baby, don't tell him about traffic laws, and boom. Natural selection, as god intended.
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>>84745745
The males are infertile and it should be illegal to have sex with the (mostly infertile) females. Problem solved without murdering happy retarded people. That was easy.
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>>84744166
So he wants to pay more taxes for welfare to feed and house retards their whole lives, no? Then he's not only a psychopath by his own retarded logic, but a hypocrite, like all rightists desu
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>>84745767
No just terminate them in the womb or at birth. Downies arent like retards which us a DNA fuck up they are a chromosome fuckup a higher tier bio error than a human with low IQ. Downies are errors not people, christians are stupid fucks.
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>>84745350
>both contain human DNA (one has more)
That's an important difference, you stupid niggerfaggot.
The one with more has a complete human genome while the sperm cell has half. Kinda like how you aren't a complete human because you only have half a brain.
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>>84745785
Oh yeah? Well I think they're pretty amusing. Murder pass denied.
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Personhood only exists when the cerebrum is formed meaning embroyos arent people, they have no awareness. The movement of them when aborted is just muscles reacting to a non amniotic fluid medium. A human drooling retard is more aware than a fucking embyro
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>>84745350
>where a Jewish Genie imbues one of the cells with a special ghost from his ghost jar and gives it magical rights?
Some people think you can make an egg fertilize itself through a chemical rxn, like a clone. How else could ppl explain daughters that look exactly like their moms? If a Jewish genie can turn water into wine it should be possible to infuse an egg with special Jewish wizard spirit goo.
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>>84745837
Pretty sure a person is considered human when a soul enters the baby/zygote/etc.
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>>84745860
Nonsense, we can test this by destroying your cerebrum then reading your brainwaves to see if "you" still fucking exist in there
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>>84745880
literal soulless materialist garbage
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>>84745880
I believe you would need to invent a soulometer to falsify his claim.
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>>84744166
I'm catholic, so i understand what Matt Walsh says, but boy, do i never want to have a downie
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>>84744290
>What disability?
autism
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>>84745895
of course, but because it's more work, not because they are le suffering
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>>84745904
Yes. but more ao it's because of my own personal disgust at deformities
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>>84745888
Your like software not actually material
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>>84745880
>test this by destroying your cerebrum then reading your brainwaves
Hylic demonic trash. Technically then youre human because you have a brainstem, since any damage to that and youre dead. Technically people thought you needed a heartbeat to be considered human, but now we can do heart transplants so what now? I bet you'd want to create a soul o meter to measure the soul leave when a human dies? A human is a human because they have a soul, thats it. Even tards and babies in the womb are considered human.
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>>84745958
God gifted me with a spiritual soulometer. You are a soulless demon.
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>>84744166
I would, this world is too cruel for people who are different despite their bullshit attempt at sounding inclusive
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>>84744166
I am not gonna bust my ass only to have my genetic legacy be someone who cant dress himself or use a toilet
call me sociopathic or whatever but im absolutely fine with aborting my kid if they will be retarded or disabled
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>>84745707
A fetus is like a golden retriever? We're talking about abortions, not executing retarded children
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i missed out on my childhood because i was the primary caretaker of my younger severely autistic sibling from ages 11 to 17. now my parents are approaching their 70s still caring for the 6'4, 200 pound perma-baby, cajoling him out of bed, dressing him every morning, tying his shoes, showering/bathing him. getting into an assisted living facility can take a decade. my parents don't want to sedate him too much and it resulted in him being kicked out of his first adult daycare (starting smashing plates and eating people's food). they love him and his personality too much to make their lives easier.

he's like a volatile, fastidious film auteur with the house as a set. one example: shortly after sunset my dad needs to be seated in a certain chair, then go out onto the porch, then reenter the house, set his phone on the dining room table at a specific angle, wait until my brother requests for him to plug it in, then plug it in and proceed upstairs to sit on the edge of his bed for 15 minutes while my brother brushes his teeth and paces up and down the hallway. if my dad breaks this sequence at any point my brother will be up until 3 in the morning screaming and stomping, bending the floorboards under him.


shouting basic commands
>GO SIT IN THE CHAIR GO SIT IN THE CHAIR GO SIT IN THE CHAIR
>BUTTER FOOD BUTTER FOOD BUTTER FOOD
>EGGS AND TOAST EGGS AND TOAST
>RED COCO POP GO TO THE STORE BUY RED COCO POP (throws a tantrum if he doesn't have 3 cans of coca cola every day after daycare)
is the extent of his grasp of english. he can't read or write. any dalliance makes him red in the face, he'll grab my dads arm and move his face in really close while screaming the command. he has kept this up for as long as 4 hours straight, shouting the command every 3 seconds. He does not understand time, or responses like "in a moment" and "in an hour".
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>>84746384

that house is like a massive clockwork machine running on the inertia of a spring, gradually growing cold. my parents have no choice because they love him. it could really be much worse. he can use the bathroom on his own, for one (though it wasn't always like that, smeared poop on walls... about 12 years of smearing his poop on the walls, pooping and peeing on the floor, before he learned)

i am not trying to advocate for eugenics but it's important that people understand what it's REALLY like to have a severely mentally disabled child. you'll be in your seventies still taking care of him if you weren't lucky enough to secure a spot for him in a group home. he will never become more intelligent. he will never be independent. people think of downies and autists as these cute little boys and young sheldon rainmen types but they don't realize those are the special cases. this drives parents so crazy they start using letterboards and believing their child is a telepathic genius with an "intact mind" (stuff that retards like RFK promote). they will be a burden. i think that they are nevertheless humans that deserve to live good lives within their capabilities and advocate for themselves in whatever way they can, but that has nothing to do with abortion... matt walsh only sees the downies that can be taken outside...
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>>84745620
the dumbest nigger is smarter and capable of experience more of the human experience than the smartest downie.
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>>84744166
Making babies with women who are malnourished and diseased is a practice I only do when I intend to disappear from the woman's life.
I would never intentionally impregnate a true wife if she were diseased, I'd cure her first.
Your situation therefore only applies to women I wouldn't care enough about to ask to kill my doomed child
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>>84745958
Downies are for the most part too stupid to understand what it would mean to accept jesus and therefore are going to hell.
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>>84745791
>The one with more has a complete human genome while the sperm cell has half

>half the genome
Worthless. Blast it into a kleenex. It is nothing.

>whole genome
Oh sweet Yahweh! What a precious, precious thing that I get down on my knees and praise you for!

If I scraped off a skin cell that contains my entire genetic code is it alive? Does it have Yahweh's magic rights enshrined into it? Or is it not big enough? What are the Jewish rules for life?
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>>84747477
First, a skin cell and a zygote are not the same thing.
Second, I'm not Christian nor am I against abortion.
I'm telling your stupid nigger ass to stop making comparisons between zygotes and sperm cells because it misses the point and makes you look like a retard.
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>>84746384
>horrible nightmare existence
How did you last that long? How did you not just "lose" him one day? Like, that's worse than having an adult chimpanzee in your house.

I think every bleeding heart Christ-tard that believes downies and severe autistics are sacred gifts needs to baby sit a six foot four mental eight-year-old who throws dangerous OCD tantrums every night, for like a week. That'll change some minds really fast.
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Generally I don't believe in abortion.
Maybe in the case where I knew they had a defect or disease that would mean they would just experience extreme suffering then die, like not having a spine or something like that.
But if they have even a small chance of living a full and happy life, such as a learning disability or something like downs then I would 100% step up to care for my child and do everything in my power to provide a good life for them.

I ain't religious but innocent life is precious. Killing someone just because they are inconvenient is fucking evil. I would love my little potato with all my heart.
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>>84747505
>it misses the point
What is the point?

Magic spells happen when a sperm breaks the outer membrane of the egg cell and mitosis begins?

A zygote, blastocyst, embryo, etc are still not -human-. They have potential to become human at some point, just like sperm do.

The notion that a human suddenly appears when a sperm and egg join is rooted deeply in the religious side of Roe v Wade and it's profoundly stupid as well as having been argued to death since 1973.
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>>84747540
>Magic spells happen when a sperm breaks the outer membrane of the egg cell and mitosis begins?
Why are you still making stupid arguments like I'm some retarded christkike who believes in magic?
Listen, nigger, if you need your hand held while the differences between functions of various cells are explained to you, that's what biology textbooks are for.
The christkike argument isn't about "magic" or "potential" anyways, it's about function. A zygote is a fundamentally different cell than sperm or skin or brain or all of the many other different cells in the body. When you mix them up and act like all cells are the same like you're doing now, you are exposing your ignorance and ceding the argument to them. You'd do less harm keeping your mouth shut if you're going to be this fucking stupid.
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I'll never have to abort my retarded child because I'll use birth control.
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>>84744894
That's not really what a species is, ask 10 biologists that question and it'll turn into a knife-fight soon enough



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