Or is that something that they just say? Because most virgins are not what most men find attractive lol.
Not if you are ugly ofc not nobody likes ugly "people".
Do men actually like women? Because most women are not what most men find attractive lol.
>>84745898Incels care because, since there are no virgin women left, it is a convenient thing for them to get Mad On The Internet about.>>84745925I don't need to find most women attractive. Just one. But she's Chad Only and will fuck literally any guy over 6' tall for that reason alone.
>>84745898Sexually successful men? Fuck no
>>84745898i dont think they actually care, as long as ur attractive u could have a bodycount of 0-100 and theyd still be into u
bait thread if you reply i will fuck you in the mouth with a machete
>>84746036nice guys can't fuck with machetes
>>84745898as a young virgin femcel struggling heavily in the 2026 dating scene: no. absolutely not. they are only attracted to knowing no man has ever touched you before. their weird male ingroup comparison fantasy. they hate everything else that comes with virginity. like you being prudeish. you being hard to get. you having to get used to physical things. they will quickly get bored that you are not putting out and move on to "easy whores". they hate women who are difficult sexually. they don't want to invest in you. they want quick meaningless fucks. they don't value chastity and purity. they love and worship whores.
>>84746062>as a hypersexual chad chaser i cant get hypersexual chadwhat. the. fuck.
>>84745898I tend to prefer non virgins. I think most experienced guys are similar.Once you're not a virgin you have no right to care if your partner is, so it's usually better to get with someone who already knows what they're doing (which is slightly more likely when they're not a virgin).
>>84745898I like women without HPV and women who think sex is something more sacred than jerking off into a trash can.
>>84746062How would you know any of that if you were still a virgin and/or not Chad Only? A virgin bf who actually believed you (not that you aren't lying) wouldn't act like that. Chad would because he could be fucking someone else instead.
>>84746062I waited 4 years for my virgin ex to put out and she didn't. Enough is enough I prefer a whore at this point.
>>84746069AMALT. chad can only act on his male urges but all moids have the same sexuality. they all adore whores. they all hate virginal prude women and our values. there is nothing moids hate more than being denied sex.
>>84745898Normal men don't like virgins because virgins are bad at sex
>>84746090>4 yearsShe was waiting for a ring you fucking degenerate.
>>84746091ok and how is that a bad thing wanting to be intimate with someone you cherish were you raped as a child? maybe touched? are you damaged goods?
>>84746105No she wasn't she didn't want to marry she was just scared and all she knew in her vocabulary was saying no.I fucking wish she wanted a ring.
>>84746118Women don't know what they want. You tell them what they want. You failed her. She's laying in a puddle of sweat and Chad cum right now btw.
>>84746062For me i would like a virgin lady because i am also a virgin but sex isnt the most important thing to me anyway
>>84746062I mean being hard to get is always annoying but I don't mind the first and the last and in fact I don't really see myself developing a meaningful relationship that's the reason why PUAshit is so hard for me even though it works because it requires you to not have onetitises and instantly polarize women while I tend to get attached to someone over time I would also like it if there were women who appreciates me being a virgin as a guy despite having chances to lose it in random casual sex I guess instead of seeing it as a potential red flag/indicator of low social value or potential defects.In short there's definitely guys who would appreciate the kind of stuff associated with being a virgin perhaps regardless of whether they have a hymen or not well not that it matters anyways since I'm ugly and low value so I fail the first test anyways.
>>84746080because i am trying to find a bf duh i don't need to literally have sex to know these things. moids literally lose interest when they know you are a virgin hard to get woman.>>84746090are you underage or something? otherwise couldn't you tell you are supposed to marry her?
>>84745898im a virgin and not ugly (very mid looking tho) and had normie men make fun of me for it, non normies def find it attractive though
>>84746139>moids lose interest when you're hard to getWell, uhh, you're literally telling them you aren't interested. What are they supposed to do, ignore what you're telling them and chase you anyways? Oh now I get it. You want Chad but he doesn't want to wait for you and you're upset about this. Rot in your cat sanctuary.
>>84746128Nah she is asinine and stubborn, and can't allow herself to be approached, she's going to stay single until she's in pain.Forget about sex, she scared of her own shadow, she won't have a man her close to her anytime soon as she wants to play the strong independent woman at the same time.She was impossible to command or convince.>>84746139I'm 32 and a virgin, we broke up this January after 4 years, no it wasn't about marriage, it was about her mental problems.
>>84746114>ok and how is that a bad thing wanting to be intimate with someone you cherishi didn't say that. most moids aren't doing that whatsoever. they want to stick their dick in anyone. you aren't supposed to have sex with just about anyone but the love of your life. this isn't what most moids want. they want to be whores. they love them>were you raped as a child? maybe touched? are you damaged goods?no i said i'm a virgin wtf??>>84746133cool i wish you were real (moids who don't prioritize are as legit as unicorns)
>>84746153what is this chad obsession? closeted faggot >>84746159i believe in moving on fast if it doesn't look like it will work. that's how i date. i get to know him for like a few weeks at most. i aks the important stuff right ahead. at that point, i can see whether he is going to be my husband or not. why did you waste 4 years?
>>84746162>cool i wish you were real (moids who don't prioritize are as legit as unicorns)Alot of us are real its just that it gets tired to do it since women like you are far and few between and in the end cave for a guy who isn't romantic but far more attractive anyways. Its a far more effective strategy not to develop onetitis or being romantic and instead just polarizing every girl you ever see.
>>84746177>what is this chad obsession?Is this actually your first day here?
>>84746162Good example to remind everyone that when women talk about men they're just talking about Chad. Incels aren't human to them.
>>84746177She was sweet caring and nice, and we got along well, until she stopped being all of that, at that point I had no reason to stay as she wasn't even satisfying me.I genuinely liked her, she just needed to be more feminine and submissive, she needed to be receptive, less confronting and constantly under stress for retarded shit.
>>84746162if you want to blueball someone for years and not make them feel appreciated because you have some fucking unobtainable princess complex dont be surprised nobody wants to go along with your shit nobody wants to feel unwanted especially men
>>84746209>she just needed to be more feminine and submissiveI have never been able to read this line without imagining the person typing it as a gigantic faggot.
>>84746162Thanks it means a lot but i am sadly not much of a catch i have never even dated
>>84746244She'd reject you irl for being too short btw.
>>84746254I am not short but it have never got me any attention from girls as people claim it would
>>84746240Well you would understand if you had to take a wild animal kicking back at you every time you tried to lead her to water.You'd not use any other word, she was idiotically stubborn and wrong, often consciously, despite being intelligent herself
>>84746267It's just so grating to read because it's either reading that or reading how all women are naturally submissive and feminine and trad and dainty and it just all sounds so very gay.
>>84746180>in the end cave for a guy who isn't romantic but far more attractive anyways.my worst nightmare >>84746206lmao at pretending all moids aren't like that and these are chad only traits>>84746209wasn't it obvious that it wouldn't work tho>>84746219i believe in getting married quick retard maybe stop wasting years with people who obviously will not be your spouse for no fucking reason?? >>84746244me neither i never had sex or a relationship i just talk to men and try to determine whether we should get married or not
>>84745898I'd like a virgin but I am sadly not a virgin anymore due to the fuckups of 19 year old me.Regardless I love the idea of growing with someone and having small, intimate moments shared only between her and I which is something you don't get when someone has hoed around and destroyed their ability to hairband.>what most men find attractive lol.I'm personally into weirdos. My taste aesthetically is weird, some "hyper attractive" chicks look like trash to me and some "mid" chicks look really good in my book.
>>84746280I'm dealing with a girl that I can literally order around now, it's the polar opposite and both me and her are happy.You won't understand which is better until you try both extremes.When men decide things everything goes smoother and everyone is happier.>>84746286No I didn't have 10 previous failed relationship before yk? I had zero
>>84746286How could you know that's what non-Chads are like when you don't even acknowledge us as human?
>>84746286>my worst nightmareYou know you could just not do this right?
>>84746304>When men decide things everything goes smoother and everyone is happier.Except for your last gf where this wasn't the case. That's what I mean. The whole thing is just cognitive dissonance.
>>84746286>my worst nightmareI guess, but I fear you completely missed the point. The reason why most romantic niceguys (tm) or people with onetitis give up is because most women don't appreciate it and its extremely cost intensive and risk for the guy, whilst women who want guys like this incur zero risk whatsoever.Its not a surprise that every PUA manual ever correctly so identifies that the first thing you should do is stop being attached to women/friendzone and instead immediately ask them out and move on and flirt with all women. For me as a romantic guy that feels soul crushing, but it might be what I have to do after getting rejected 5 or so times in these 6 month+ humiliationships.Hope you can at least see where we're coming from and I at least wish we romantically inclined guys got appreciated a little more for what we do...
>>84746320What are you saying? With my ex I didn't decide shit she did what the fuck she wanted and never listened to a single thing I wanted.Now I've decided to say fuck it and stared fooling around with one that has fallen in love with me.She does what I want, no discussion, no but no perpetual "no"s.She's happy and is constantly seeking my ass, I'm happy because I lead and get her to do what I want whenever I want and none complains about the dynamic.Idk what the fuck your on about anon.
>>84745898It's not a huge factor for me. I'm looking for someone that genuinely cares about me which feels impossible to find.
>>84746336Women only care about getting fucked by big fat dicks. Don't listen to them at all. There are no "virgins." Maybe OP hasn't had sex in a couple weeks and that's what she means.
>>84746348It's just annoying reading how all women are naturally submissive and feminine, except when they aren't.
>>84746314i will not but some moids are very manipulative liars>>84746336no i think we should move on fast from people who will not be our husband or wife. we should only commit emotionally when it seems like they will in fact be someone we can marry. i value romance over sex but i also don't believe in wasting time
>>84746369When they aren't z they are usually traumatised or broken.In the case of my ex it's no dad and harsh af mom that set the example of strong and independent woman that's basically the man of the house.She's just stuck in this mentality and can't let her feminine side free from her stress chockehold
>>84746376>ugh he was just so tall i didn't see it coming tee heewe should move on from women
>>84746286by the way you type i can tell you are insufferable i know because it reads like something that i would write what's "quick"? year? two?
>>84746073>Once you're not a virgin you have no right to care if your partner is,explain. Why? Genuinely why?
>>84746376>no i think we should move on fast from people who will not be our husband or wife. we should only commit emotionally when it seems like they will in fact be someone we can marry. i value romance over sex but i also don't believe in wasting timeI mean I guess but that's just as insane for men as demanding women put out immediately. Good luck I guess I wonder how far I'll get as a romantic guy with this dating strategy.
>>84746396>akshually men don't lose their ability to pair bond the same way whores do>no it's just a coincidence that chad never settles down, why should he?
>>84746406What she actually means is that she's already decided within the first 1.5 seconds of encountering you if she'll ever have sex with you. Your romantic personality is irrelevant. She'll never know about it.
>>84746412I don't know who this voice in your head is but I never said anything like that. Idk if you're TA but I still want a justification. Not being able to pair bond doesn't seem to be sufficient enough reason for someone to not have the right to want to be with someone who can.
>>84746496It's called extrapolation. It's one of those special powers you unlock when your IQ hits triple digits. You're either smart enough to understand this or you aren't.
>>84746524Alright. How about we start over. I want you to justify why non virgins don't have a right to want virgins.
>>84745898I do. I'm virgin myself and would feel uncomfortable with a woman that wasn't virgin.The type of woman to be virgin is what I like. It's not just about the sex but the type of person.
>>84745898I do like virgin womenI don't like fat, argumentative or bitchy status-driven women, but I like virgin women(Not saying you personally are any of those things btw)The best relationship I ever had was with a virgin girl, I had to slow walk her into any kind of intimacy but we were together for years and it was lovely
>>84746545Because all you value about that part of her is a tighter hole.
>>84746584I don't see what's wrong with wanting a tighter hole nor how that implies you value nothing else about her. I do note your use of "you", I never said I was a non virgin who wanted a virgin myself. I also think there are other reasons why you might want a virgin besides tightness (which I am not even sure if is true,) perhaps you are just uncomfortable with the idea of your bf/gf having had sexual relations with someone else.
>>84746389do it>>84746392stop projecting fag. ideally a couple should get married within a year>>84746406why? getting married fast is very effective while fucking whoever leads to chaos
>>84746616It doesn't need to mean you value nothing else about her, you just happen to do that all on your own every single time since that's the only thing any man on here ever mentions at all.
>>84746637>do itI don't have to do anything. I'm an incel, you made that choice for me.
>>84746637ok that's fair i guess maybe you're just ugly
>>84746641So you do not believe that>Once you're not a virgin you have no right to care if your partner is,You just believe that you have no right to only value their virginity in lieu of everything else about them?
>>84746675You are just spinning all the little gears in your head to try and act like you don't know what hypocrisy means.
>>84746682I do. But it is good you have mentioned this word. I do not believe there is anything wrong with being "hypocritical" when it comes to what you want in a gf/bf. I want plenty of things in a wife that I dont possess myself, and I have no issue with her doing the same. I want my wife to be a woman, to bear my children, etc, yet I will never be or do those things. She may want me to be a man, to provide for her, while she might never be or do those things. It's only hypocritical in a bad way if you are suggesting it is morally wrong for someone to not be something that you also aren't. In my eyes.
>>84746711You betray your own argument by valuing something in her that you could have been but chose not to. You have to ask yourself why you want her to be a virgin while you aren't. Do you want to pair bond with her and marry her and stay with her for the rest of your lives? Or do you just want a fresh hole to nut in? The latter makes you a degenerate scumbag.
>>84746674>any woman who isn't a whore must be uglylol
>>84745898They don't actually like or care about the woman that's a virgin. They just want to be the first to hit it. Also, virgins are typically underage so they just want to be able to fuck a 13 year old. There's plenty of women who are their age and they'll say "she's a hag, she must be really ugly/mentally ill".
>>84746752If a girl is attractive she will attract Chad and just fuck him because he's tall and handsome and free for 20 minutes before his next Tinder appointment.
>>84746760most retarded post of the thread award
>>84746760most trvke post of the board award
>>84745898My hair sorta looks like picrel
>>84746738I don't think, even if you choose to be something else, that it is immoral to want your bf/gf to be that thing. How about if a woman wants her bf to be ripped? She could go to the gym and be ripped too. But he does not value that in her, so he is fine with her being twiggy. I don't see why not wanting your bf/gf to have had sexual relations with other people is degenerate, regardless of whether you have.
>>84746835You're just grasping at straws to pretend like you aren't >>84746760. It's different. If it weren't different than liking a particular body type or hair or eye color, it wouldn't be the number one discussed trait here and all throughout human history. Again I ask, why do you want her to be a virgin if you're not? And conversely, would you understand it if she was and wanted you to be and rejected you for not being able to share that moment with her fully? Not that all women aren't whores, but since you're playing pretend so can I for a second.
>>84746637>why? getting married fast is very effective while fucking whoever leads to chaosYou're missing the point this is possible for you as a girl because you hold all the power in dating but as a guy this is a great way to single forever. As this >>84746062 poster said most women who happen to be virgins are terrified of commitment so demanding fast marriage or fast anything is a good way to be single forever. I mean I'm an anxious moid that almost exclusively goes after avoidant women so I think I'd know
>>84746860Again, she only wants that because she wants to lock a Chad down before it's too late, and based on her apparent desperation it likely already is.
>>84746856I accept it is different, but I believe in both cases the same thing holds true that hypocrisy in dating preferences is not immoral. I don't see something morally wrong with say, some guy wanting a wife who was a virgin before meeting him, because he is uncomfortable with the idea of her having had sexual relations with other men, perhaps because he feels some amount of sexual possessiveness over her, which she might not him. And if she does, then so be it, he and her were not meant to be.I did not say I am not a virgin and want one. I am one and want one but I don't think my reasons for that are so relevant to this discussion. I would totally understand a woman turning me down for not being one though, should I not be. I would even go so far as to say she *should* expect a man who waited for her as she did him. I would not find it immoral for one to turn me down for being a virgin, either.>>84746856 I'm not pretending anything.
>>84745898Incels will tell you they care but if you're ugly I don't think your virginity status matters much.Majority of males would still rather fuck attractive woman with high body count than a mid/ugly virgin.
>>84747056Everyone wants to be attracted to their partner. What is so bothersome is when women act like this isn't the case and all just happen to have the same type and we just need to try harder.
>>84745898Virgin women have been highly valued by men throughout history. When a man ejaculates inside of a woman, a bit of his dna remains inside the woman for the rest of her life. If a woman has had 30 previous partners who have all ejaculated inside her, and she gives birth to a child, that child ends up being born with a mix of dna from all 30 men and the mother due to microchimerism. The fucked up part about this is that all 30 men who ejaculated inside of the woman are now the fathers of that child.A child with 30 fathers is an abomination to the purity of a family's genetic lineage. No sane man would ever want to taint his family line with foreign genetics, let alone racemix with a woman not of his own kind. Men do not fuck around when it comes to keeping their family's genetics lineage pure. The last thing any man wants for his family is a family full of incurable genetic diseases. Virgin women are like genetic treasures to men, because they produce good children and keep the family strong.
>>84746776I beg it looks cute anon:3
>>84745898Yes, being a virgin is essential. Used up holes with their spittle-covered by other men bodies are worthless.They're always seething when you reject them for not being a virgin.
>>84745898i don't know what normalfags thinkbut the average /r9k/ anon obviously does want a virgin gf because she would have the same amount of experience as him
>>84748465>because she would have the same amount of experience as himI suppose that's one of the main reasons..
>Do men actually like virgin women?Theoretically, yes. But they'd have to be not innately crap at sex, and at least be willing and horny enough to try anything.
