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Is it immoral to have a crush on a woman as an incel?
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>>84751003
A crush is fine. Forcing her to reciprocate when she doesn't, isn't. I swear some of you ppl watch movies with your eyes closed
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Just be direct, do not be one of those weirdo's that spends year suddenly making a move
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>>84751014
Okay but that's not something anyone in the real world can actually do so it's not really an applicable takeaway for real life
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>>84751023
How long can you wait before making a move before it's "creepy" because only being allowed to make a move on women you just met isn't really feasible
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>>84751003
It's just childish. I've never had a "crush" on a girl after middle school.
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>>84751035
What are you talking about? You like a girl, make a move directly. ask them on a date, if they say no move on, that simple. Every single gf i had had some simp orbiter that never got any because they never made a move. And guess what, I always tell them to cut it off with them and they always do it. Being friends with them is a waste of time.
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>>84751023
This, everyone lacks courage nowadays and has this holier than thou fantasy of a slow burn romance going from friends to lovers. But realistically we know if we are going to sleep with someone within 30 seconds
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>>84751049
I love tales from the Chad
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>>84751003
I thought the movie was about trying to seduce a BPDemon and why it's bad.
She was already fucking the alpha of the friend group and he was gaslighting our main character to keep him from getting pussy
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>>84751003
Yes. It implies the woman isn't capable of deciding her own mate.
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I have pictures of my old crush saved in cloud storage despite having a gf for 2 years.

men never get over their first love
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>>84751076
Give it time. You'll forget. 2 years is fresh
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What's it like having feelings for a woman? I've tried to cultivate 'butterflies' for a woman before but in the end I just feel disappointment and contempt for them.
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>>84751049
I've seen many friends to lovers in real life but it's really only a thing that happens in people's school years I think
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>>84751107
Yeah exactly, in school as a 16 year old sure. No adult does this cringe crap. And when they do they always get laughed at by the girl. Also friends to lovers is usually because the girl just got tired and saw them as an easy placeholder. If a woman finds you attractive you do not have to "friend" them before going into a relationship.
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>>84751056
Yes eactly, why would you ever waste your time on a woman who does not find you attractive? I have friends that are "friends" with a woman, all of them secretly like them and they say themselves that they are just drama and headaches. Why go through that without getting anything in return
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>>84751144
I agree with you and as a woman do not think there is any value in opposite sex friendships, for the man or the woman.
>b-but simps buy her things
Not worth the squeeze and her attention would be better spent getting her own money up, fostering relationship with an attractive guy and real female friendships
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>>84751003
Wasn't she the evil controlling one in the movie?
t.didnt watch
>>84751014
"forcing" is different in that context and doesn't sound like something only men would do if it was possible to just voodoo your way into it
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>>84751049
>What are you talking about? You like a girl, make a move directly. ask them on a date, if they say no move on, that simple.
What if you don't really want a date?
I'm extremely busy and dealing with a lot of dark mental stuff right now. Both of these matters relate to my job, something that I can't just avoid. I do not want to introduce a girl I do not know into the equation.
Especially not on a date. I have autism and meeting strangers to go places sounds awful.
Even if we hit it off, it will probably just result in more heartbreak and lost time as it did with my exes.
Far better to admire from afar and not fuck things up.
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>>84751131
Women don't find me attractive but I would still like to be in a relationship with one so what else do you want. We aren't all chad and I'm not going to kill myself
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>>84751103
It feels bad because I'm an unlovable autist and I know they're self destructive feelings to have but generally it just makes me happy when she talks to me
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>>84751003
Yes, as ugly men we arent supposed to have emotions nor should we talk or look at girls
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>>84751073
can someone explain my retarded ass how to read this graph
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>>84751155
I agree, this is because both people in the opposite sex friendship scenario are often losers. The guy is a loser because he is clearly getting played and disrespected and does not have the guts to get what he wants. The woman is often a low life that does not have anything else to do and is just farming resources and attention either because she is incompetent or because she is insecure. No serious man or woman wold go for this and waste their time on this scenario.
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>>84751003
bro im not watching the movie, im just not gonna do it
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>>84751003
can foids stop trying to appropriate this movie please
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>>84751247
Then do your best to become attractive? What is the point in cucking yourself being friends with one? You want to hear about the times they have sex as you imagine in being you? Each time you picture them getting fucked it will mess with your head even more. I had a friend going through this, Guy finally moved on after 4 years and is now laughing at himself.
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>>84751234
Fucking up is less bad than cucking yourself and not getting what you want. Fucking up is the second best scenario here honestly. Way better than obsessively stalking their Instagram wondering what could have been
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>>84751417
basically if you are ugly or mid, you probably have 7 previous girls you had sex with. if you are a guy in the top 1% (at least a 1 in 100 guy better than the other 99), then you probably have had 287 previous girls you had sex with.
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>>84751489
I disagree the most attractive people i know are in long term relationships. The people that are fucking 50+ are ugly/mid on both sides. It is basically just 5's fucking each other because they cannot get anyone else and are too insecure to build a life together without proving themselves first. All of the attractive power couples are building lives together without playing games.
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>>84751003
More gender war garbage by the Jews
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>>84751489
ok thanks i thought percentiles worked the other way around
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>>84751417
percentile basically means "everything below this number doesn't count" so 99th percentile is saying "everything below the top 1 percent doesn't count". there's six different buckets here, one bucket has more than all the other buckets combined, despite being a fraction of the total.
the chart suggests that women do not recognize the bottom 80% of men as mates.

the pie chart is a weighted average for the sake of being fair to all the different participants, so in that case less than 10% of all human men are having sex with roughly 60% of all human women who are having sex in the united states.
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>>84751521
i got it anon thanks i was just thinking of top percentiles so this graph wasnt making any sense to me as i was interpreting it as the top 99% having a mean body count of 287. like i said im very fucking retarded
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>>84751543
it's okay, a lot of this is niche info
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>>84751003
It's good bc now average and below moids that think they can get with girls will now be arrested lol
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>>84751501
sorry the percentiles are based on number of partners. so it's not necessarily tied to being attractive. it's just saying out of 100 random men, the guy who has the most partners will have 250+, and almost everyone else has like 7.
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>>84751451
I am 5'4 with autism and a stutter
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>>84751003
Any time a woman tells me to watch obsession cause muh nice guys I tell them to watch disclosure
>It's about a guy fighting false rape accusations
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>>84751003
every day im more convinced im happier as a 40 year old virgin than i would be if i tried to persue romance and sex. what a fucking chore
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>>84751755
You're not missing out on much. I started having sex with girls when I was a teenager.
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>>84751003
It certainly feels that way
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>>84751469
>Fucking up is less bad than cucking yourself and not getting what you want.
I just said that I do NOT want a date.
I do not want to be involved with women right now.



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