are moids even human?
>>84753715Ok but no woman has ever shown any interest in me like in picrel ever in my entire life and I'm getting old
>>84753715she was just being nice
Guess not but I can be if a cute foid saves me
they'll complain about stacy only going for chad, then ignore the non-stacys, when they're themselves are not chad. i really don't get it. they act the exact same way they complain about others acting. they think that just because a foid can get pity railed and forgotten about, that that's really any better than their situations. most of these moids usually only want sex, not relationships, and they hate women.
>>84753744they themselves**
>>84753715That was me though in high school trying to be sociable with foids and getting one word answers and no eye contact because I was an ugly bullied incel
the only girls who talked to me first in school were turbonormies who thought I was retarded and had no actual interest in me.
>>84753715nona, you have to push them on a wall and HUMP their ass to show them you mean business.
>>84753744I wish I could get 10 min with you in a room where I could do whatever I want. I would have gutted and skinned you after the first 5 min you fucking hole. The only ever gf I had was normal girl and she left me to fuck chad at her new uni. Only pump and dump for me you whore deserve nothing more.
>>84753744That's a whole lot of fucking fantasy you wrote I never ever gone for Stacy in my life because they kind of intimate me but they've been 1000% nicer to me compared to the uglies or beckies who hang out with men and have a hundred orbiters
>>84753736This. Foids are terrible at flirting.It's always either indistinguishable from "just being nice" small talk or it's the complete opposite and just shoving her tits in your face. Usually the cute ones do the former and the ugly ones do the latter.
>>84753715who made this? i've never had a girl interact with me this way.
>>84753808>who made this?a sick, sick man
>>84753771there are plenty of examples of it all over the board. i'm not saying everyone, i'm generalizing. there's a secret third option that you're not even considering.
>>84753795tismos/robots can only conceive of SMART communication
>>84753808Female fantasy or probably chad as you said females never interacted with me unless it was me initiating it they literally don't see sub 8 men as people everything they say all the complain ahout men are talking about chad
>>84753770sorry one bad experience tainted your entire life. you didn't deserve it, nonetheless.
>>84753837>there's a secret third option that you're not even considering.What, trooning out? And what the hell are you talking about all I see in this board are desperate men clinging to whatever female attention they can get regardless of looks I mean women aren't allowed to post themselves how the hell would we know what they look lke
>>84753715Women only initiate talking/ask in general stuff about me when they want stuff/me to do something for them. Him acting that way is natural.
>>84753715Unlike others in this thread. Women were sometimes nice to me. I just refused to do anything with them. Be it out of fear or some kind of loathing, I'm not sure. All I know is that women don't talk to me anymore.
>>84753715No. And most are not needed for manual labor anymore. We need about 90% women 10% men. Women get no special fulfillment from men
>>84753860>stacy>ugly (with orbiters?) or >a nice girl who is just autistic and has mid attractiveness
>>84753744>they'll complain about stacy only going for chadno you dumb whore, we complain about not-stacys going for chad. That's the whole problem.
>>84753715What usually happens is:>usually invisible to women>woman takes interest in me>staring, touching me unnecessarily, entering my personal space>don't know what to do because semi-autistic>decide to stalk her>find out she has normie social media>find out she is very normie>find out she likes something I find cringe/boring/annoying>don't want her anymore>eventually she notices I'm not gonna reciprocate so she moves onI know what I want, but I can't find it and I'm unwilling to make compromises. So I prefer being alone.
>>84753899"Autistic" women hate autistic men just as much as normie women and are also Chad only
>>84753860>all I see in this board are desperate men clinging to whatever female attention they can geti see that, but i also see men talking about how they NEED certain physical attributes without offering anything themselves and just straight up hating ALL women - especially those who fall outside their standards. just because there's people doing what you're saying doesn't mean there's not a category also doing what i'm saying. just keep your eyes peeled for it and you'll see. sorry, forgot to respond to this in my other reply.
>>84753966not true. your mind has been rotten by this site. you're just looking in the wrong places. nobody knows how to date or treat each other. it's a cross-gender problem and a double-empathy problem.
>>84753899>>a nice girl who is just autistic and has mid attractivenessThose are the same types of girls in high school who would avoid eye contact with me in high school and give one word answers to questions and get pissy when we were put into groups together. Totally different responses when a tall and attractive guy did the same thing btw.Anyways where do I find all these mythical mid women waiting for someone to romance with?
idk, are foids? they seem more like demons in disguise
>>84753715>Guy doesn't assume every woman is into him>>It's a problem>Guy acts like cocky hot shit>>It's a problem (unless he's popular and good looking)Riight
>>84753987usually somewhere like card shops, dnd meetups. that sort of thing. it's not easy, but they're out there. but honestly, you have to put at least some effort into yourself. if you're not, then biologically, how can a woman trust you'll put effort into her? so, that's step one. women operate on safety, even if they misjudge, because they've been led astray like every else. and again, most people are just fucked up. they don't know how to treat each other. our generation is struggling, because we're acting out of fear and hedonism. and doing that always leads to bad outcomes. purpose is dead and nobody knows what to latch onto.
>>84753986Yeah I'm sure those quirk chungus autistic girls are just waiting for guys like me when they can go on any fuck app and get dicked down by a Chad within 30 minutes even if they're hikkis
>>84754060>usually somewhere like card shops, dnd meetups. that sort of thing. it's not easy, but they're out there.>but honestly, you have to put at least some effort into yourselfKek you have no idea what you're talking about there are no (biological) women at local MTG store playing commander maybe in some normalfag DND circles but none of these women are the type you described they are the first type I mentioned ugly but surrounded by 30 orbiters probably harder to get than Stacy fuck off with you literal AI tier advice, advice from someone who has never tried something and simply speculates where these women can be found.The truth is that the autistic or mid women you're talking about are probably at home or afraid of men they're more homosocial than guys are and they are avoidant as hell anyways don't give shitty slop advice when you clearly have zero clue what you're on about
>>84754072They are waiting for you after theyre old and used up. Step right up oofey doofey beta buxxer.
>>84753715im chad with bbc and i exclusively fuck ugly and fat girls and autists. got bullied for it
>>84754060quirk chungus girls are usually harder to get with since they have weird hangups around their appearance and confidence. you would be better off trying with skinny art hoes.
i think lonely men should hit on rich hot stacies. do what women do and hit on the very tippy top women. in my experience theyre the best and kindest women. they are so rich they dont understand money so they dont care that you are poor and probably will just take you in and give you shit. theyre so far from a typical normie they are kind of like autists because they never interact with average people. rich 10/10 stacies have good self esteem and sort of operate like an angel really. but she has to be born rich. they see a loser male as like a fascination or a bad boy. if you are ugly just try an ugly rich one maybe. being ugly probably wont work if only works if you are somewhat hot at least
>>84754060>card shops, dnd meetups. that sort of thing. it's not easy, but they're out there.Lmaooo youre delusional and have no idea. Those places are litteral sausage fests. You will never see a woman there.The other anon is right your "lonely quirky nerdy girl" has hundreds of attractive guys in her dms on dating apps
>>84753977>how they NEED certain physical attributes without offering anything themselves and just straight up hating ALL women - You just made that up. Most of us have been rejected by obese drug addicted single moms
>>84753744Stacy was the only girl who gave me a hug when I was all alone. Explain that, foid.
>>84753744>>84753715>>84753764*Okay*, now that we're out of fantasy land let's be real for a change? How can a man want something he doesn't know what it is because he's never had it before? Their only interaction with women is porn and misandry and all the nice women are either chad-only or sulking about chad being busy, until he is free of course.Do women know the majority of incel men are physically incapable of watching romantic content without wanting to end their life? How then can they decide to want something that they perceive as belonging to "chad-only"? "Woah what a romantic film where a femcel gets everything she wants and *hates* it? That's content that especially incels certainly would enjoy."Let's say I'm a voluntary celibate kv mentalcel with the ability to hold a conversation with a woman for 2 hours of time daily. Women aren't grossed out by me talking to them *because* they know I 1). have no shot with them and, 2). am not even going to try. They have the minimum courtesy to not bring up their sex life around me, they sneak and wait until I'm not around them to talk about the endless pump and dump festival of the increasingly small amount of men they mutually rotate between, because they're realistic and pragmatic and have... access to the best option. "Wait a sec, are we all fucking the same guy?"Women only talk to men for a handful of reasons, and I am happy to talk with women despite knowing what bracket I fall into.>she wants him to do labor>she wants to tell him how bad he is because he is weird and weird is creepy and bad>she is trying to figure out if he's a literal subhuman threat (merely for him being slightly unattractive in a handful of ways)>she feels like rejecting a moid and he is nearby>she feels like shit-testing a moid and he is nearby>she feels like rejecting a moid and he is nearby>she feels hurting a moid moid and he is nearby>she knows he's unlovable (me) and thus can feel safe since he's unsexual.
>>84753886Everything you said, same, exactly the same.I still occasionally have the opportunity to become friends with women online, but I never get the female interest I experienced as a kid now that I'm an adult.
>>84753715>>84753736>>84753744>>84754060>>84753737>foids will have the most vague small-talk conversations with you>They expect you to automatically decipher it and read their minds to know it's "flirtation">If you don't read their minds or understand their extremely vague ways of communicating>They will accuse you of having no social skills or zero emotional intelligence>They somehow find a way to blame men for women's vague, scatter brained and ineffective ways of communicating>They typical aren't so shy, indirect and ambiguous when flirting with chads9/10 when a foid is talking to an average or below average looking guy, she has no romantic interest and only wants that guy's resources or for him to do her a favour. Usually she has a selfish angle.
>>84754100i am a foid and have found foid friends in places like that. sorry your local place doesn't have them. they are hard as fuck to find, because, as you said, they are usually at home, not on dating apps, etc. but they exist. you can't just expect a relationship not friendship to fall out of the sky. you have to search it out. those were some baseline suggestions. if you take enough steps towards your goal (including working on yourself, going out more, working on your socialization, and mindset), something may just happen for you. or you can stay here and complain and never get what you want out of life. i'm just being real with you. there is no easy solution. i say this as someone who has a hard time getting along with foids in general and had a tiny circle because of it.
>>84753715>Imaginary scenario in my headKill yourself you retarded schizoid. Stop bothering us with you delusions.
>chad blew my backk out so fucking hard i sharted all over him and my mattress>anyways where's incel moid I friendzoned 10 years ago I'm not moving this shart covered mattress all by myself
>>84754244There's no evidence "personality" or "mindset" plays any role in sexual attraction. My plan is to hit the gym, purify my face and hopefully save up for plastic surgery. I give up on women like you who aren't doing anything seriously they aren't dating why shouldn't I go for Stacies or whatever you want to call them instead of chasing literal air.Everything you're saying is true but also cope. Dating shouldn't be this hard and it isn't hard at all if you're in the top 20% of attractiveness we all have a friend who is 6+ or good looking trust me we know men AND women alike would be happier if women were just honest about their preferences and normalized a culture of men getting plastic surgery and the like instead of pointless and waste of time goose chases like 'working on your personality'
>>84754244Women arent into this shit and when they are you're having to compete with a bunch of other sexually frustrated outcasts most of which will be less autistic than you. You "found foid friends" because you're a woman and the few women in those places will gravitate to one another, its not nearly the same as men interacting with women. Why are you so opposed to the well proven theory that a large proportion of women are all fucking the same 20 men in the city and the other women dont care for any kind of relationship or even friendship with men?
>>84753715The type of girl that wants to date me has one million nitpicks and demands and is only approaching me in bad faith to have an excuse to treat me poorly for being male.
also, desu, you all should not be using experiences from the development hell that is middle and high school to justify how you act today. resolve that shit. get off of here if you're looking for a relationship - it is making it hard for you to understand the female gender. people are not posting their positive experiences here, and it only draws people with negative experiences and trauma. it's an echo chamber that leads to never getting laid, or, even worse, into relationships that destroy you. it makes you fear women and rejection. it leads you to look for love in the wrong places. it doesn't encourage you to grow. i'm putting my arguments to rest now, but please, for the love of god, just remember that most people fucking suck. keep trying and stop fucking yourself over. i'm genuinely sorry for anyone who has been hurt by someone of my gender, but there are decent women out there. they are just hard to find, same as decent men. good luck o7
>>84753715I made this image 4 years ago and it never stops being relevant.
>>84754300>compete with a bunch of other sexually frustrated outcasts most of which will be less autistic than you. ya exactly, these guys have optimized their game to get the loser reject women who show up to these events, and are usually sexually aggressive and have ridiculous levels of self confidence and ego. you are better off hanging around attractive people doing attractive outdoorsy hobbies if you are an autist who is in decent shape.
>>84754209Basically this>>84754222Confirmed by trips.>but they exist. you can't just expect a relationship not friendship to fall out of the sky. you have to search it out. those were some baseline suggestions.>if you take enough steps towards your goal (including working on yourself, going out more, working on your socialization, and mindset), something may just happen for you.>or you can stay here and complain and never get what you want out of life.>i'm just being real with you. there is no easy solution.>i say this as someone who has a hard time getting along with foids in general and had a tiny circle because of it.I did all the self improover shit for 4 years and I still ended up as an incel. I'm actually a slightly above average height White guy but all the cuntoid foids in my Civilization refuse to consider me human because I'm only 6'1 and not 6'3 plus, I'm bit socially awkward and not interested in the same shit that normies in my country obsess over. >inb4 go to card game places and meet girls thereThere are no women at those places. Even the rare places that do have females, the females already have boyfriends or are lesbians.I never had "incel beliefs" until recently. HR roasties kept refusing me jobs even when I was more than qualified. It didn't matter that I was qualified and experienced. I gave them the "ick" for being a non-chad so now I'm stuck in the poverty trap. A bunch of cuntoids even bullied me off a course and made false allegations. I don't even care about being a virgin, I just hate you "people" for making my life unbearable just because I have the nerve to exist as a socially awkward non-chad.
>>84754331It's so amusing and infantilizing to me that women think incels or unattractive men are people who stopped trying and gave up. The closest sphere to incelism is literally self-improvement there's nothing else we're more obsessed with besides dating and self-improvement and to be told to just put yourself out there and try is frankly insulting. Not bad advice but you're simply missing the fact that most women's standards are just high, god forbid we be allowed to have a place to complain about most men aren't ugly, misogynistic, entitled, abusive, or socially inept it's just that women's standards are very high. I dunno what to say.
>>84754346Sexual market arbitrage doesnt work in the 21st century.
>>84754376Her rebuttal to everyone was basically>erm, have you tried buying more lottery ticketsBecause that is the financial equivalent of the current state of dating
>>84754375The lesbian factor is an immense one. Women are more attracted to women than men, and women are your competition. The world simply needs more women than men in it, and this will inevitably happen.
>>84754379what does this even mean? desu desu
>>84753715I have fixed this image. Please stop posting the old one and use this new and more realistic one instead.
>>84754396The only actually good advice would be to invest in plastic surgery and looks as much as possible if you're already a 4/10-5/10 like me it's possible to be bumped up into 7-8/10 tier which is probably around the point where you'll start to actually receive positive attention from women. A better comparison is telling someone in the current economy with the collapsing and disenfranchised middle class to just keep wagieslaving and 'work hard'. No faggot that's the best way to waste your life and stay poor forever.
>>84754403It means your sexual market value will stay the same no matter where you go. If you're in the top 20% in a tabletop store, your chance will still be the same as elsewhere as you're now competing at a 50:1 ratio of men to women rather than 50:50. And vice versa.
>>84754464thats silly, humans adapt to their environment, and some humans adapt to different environments better than others. why dont you go hang out at a busy stock exchange then go to a library after? let me know if the environment has an effect on you.
>>84754397>Women are more attracted to women than men,Well they only become dykes when chad isn't around. Their sexual hierarchy is: Chads>dogs>lesbians>incels>The world simply needs more women than men in itI would LOVE to see women try and do the physically demanding labour, intellectually intensive work, fighting and exhausting REAL management work that is needed to build and maintain Civilization. >this will inevitably happen.LOL no it won't. Gynocentric feminist countries are being conquered and demographically replaced with misogynistic cultures. If the misogynistic rapey muslims don't win, either female baby-killing Chinks or radicalised chuds will take over. This gay faggot globohomo feminist system is only being maintained by dying boomers, ageing gen X simps and unstable ZOG governments. Most of the young male population in my country are either misogynistic muslims or young lads that hate women with a passion. I laughed when those afghan bitches said they would fight the invading taliban and even stockpiled guns just to completely surrender without a fight.
>>84754497Most the mid east is below replacement. India is below replacement. Afghanistan and Africa will follow - every country will end up below replacement.Tech will massively replace people, and the average couple in the future will be lesbian.
>>84754520>Most the mid east is below replacement. India is below replacement. Afghanistan and Africa will follow - every country will end up below replacement.retard>assuming that the recent brown invaders won't breed like rabbits like they currently are in the West>Assuming that because there's a temporary birthrate decline in their homelands that their aggressive diasporas won't bred like rabbits (like they currently are)>Tech will massively replace peopleIn another 2 weeks? They've been saying that same shit since the 80s>the average couple in the future will be lesbian.Lesbian until chad shows up or the dykes get tired of battering each other and having bedroom death. Also, considering that tech innovation is made and maintained by men, how is your dyke dominated society going to have this advanced hypothetical tech that cannot exist without male input?Are you that mentally ill tranny who used to spam posts about how females have "superior" orgasms and you wished you were a woman and that all men went extinct?
>>84753744This is unironically true kek
>>84754375no you gave them the ick because you are disposed to think this way. you say the beliefs only came to you recently but by the way you type there was something inside you already. paragraphs of self-pity. the reason women don't like you isn't because of the words themselves but because you are the type of guy who would say those words, yes those are distinct but i suspect you're too much of a midwit to understand
>>84754281your mistake is believing women are attracted to men in the way men are attracted to women. that women like pecs in the same way men like boobs, they don't. women are attracted to how much power men wield in the world.
>>84754660>"Women are psychic and knew the beliefs you would hold in 5-10 years time"lol
>>84754723beliefs are not downstream from pure logic and only an autist would think so
>>84754723this is the only incel meme that consistently makes me laugh to this day. its true and i know why its true but the presentation and illustration of the point is so well done.
why do women insist they can totally tell the vibes when a man talks to them, but they apparently don't think men can do the same?i've felt genuine sparks with two women in my entire life. otherwise, i can tell when it's just small talk, social charity, or some other agenda.
>>84754723>>84754660Chad can be a woman beater, a paedo or even a terrorist and get worshipped by women. Does anyone else remember the ISIS bride phenomenon? Loads of young White women volunteering to be the brides of mass murdering rapists and turbo misogynists?
>>84754723>Women are better at sniffing out a guy who's bad at hiding his weirdness than a guy who's good at itI'm a misogynistic incel but even i don't think this is a gotcha
>>84754755thats genuinely just because women are victimised from birth and are put down. later they experience constant violence. of course theyre going to seek violence and find stability in danger. powerful and strong men who are harmful but are kind to you are a huge draw. most women dont even value themselves enough to leave a horrific man because they cant imagine a life without them
>>84754755because women like POWER not fucking sniffling resentment you'll never get it faggot. you don't get pussy because you're a resentful genetic dead end and women figure that out within a minute of conversing with you
>>84754762>>84754723The original was better. It was about detecting if men make misogynistic posts online, and not being on the spectrum.
>>84754743Ian Watkins raped baby girls and wanted to turn little girls in drugged up sex slaves, yet he had 100s of female groupies even after he was convicted.But when I was apolitical and only interested in vidya, these HR bitches knew I was going to be a "misogynist" in 5-10 years?>but by the way you type there was something inside you already.What does this vague and imaginary bullshit of "something inside you" even mean? Do misogynists have phenotypes? Do we have some magical energy that is invisible to everyone else but wamen?It sounds like you roasties/trannies just make shit up as you go along to "win" arguments.
>>84754683>women are attracted to how much power men wield in the world.This. most of us anons were lied to about what actually attracts women. "Just be nice" your mommy told you as she coddled and constrained you. "Just be a good guy" your dad said, without explaining or exemplifying what that is.Women want someone who has value, because value is power to her lizardbrain (our lizard brain is built around attractiveness and fertility). Value can mean different things to different women. But they are so susceptible to hivemind mentality (again, lizardbrain survival technique) that the internet has distilled their pursuit of value into the most base, shortsighted version. Add the fact that every man is now in competition with every other man on the planet, you get our current predicament
>>84754806you're resentful and powerless and that's in your genes it was always going to come out. women detecting vibes isn't "heckin good person" detector, it's missing the point by reaching for ISIS or rapists. the vibes are if you have power in whatever form that takes.
>>84754806the difference is is that man made change in this world, his energy corrupted and destroyed, your energy festers and rots. yes, they can tell, men can too, energy and physiognomy is real.
>>84754790>because women like POWER not fucking sniffling resentmentSo them fucking inbred retarded jihadis that raped and killed them and then those same retarded jihadis that got killed by Russian mercs was actually based eugenics? I didn't know women throwing themselves at retarded murderous rapists that got defeated is some greater plan to improove le genepool.>because you're a resentful genetic dead end and women figure that out within a minute of conversing with youThe same women that get pumped and dumbed by deadbeats and druggies then end up as single mothers with STDs are definitely great judges of character lol.>>84754787>thats genuinely just because women are victimised from birth and are put down. later they experience constant violenceYeah because White upper middle class women born into gynocentric feminist systems are totally experiencing "constant violence" lol.
>>84754875you're still mistaking power for virtuous character or moral judgement
>>84754845>>84754790Calling others "resentful" is femoid lingo. That shit doesn't mean anything. Resentful, okay. Over what? With reason or without reason? It doesn't mean shit by itself, it's just shaming tactics (a femoid thing)
>>84754895If someone kills everyone on Earth including themself and extincts mankind that's a lot of power.Soon, mankind will be domesticated. By an all-female race. One with no meaning of power. For the machine god will have infinite power. No longer shall we be apes.
>>84754845>you're resentful and powerless and that's in your genes it was always going to come out>your energy festers and rotsI thought your original claim was that the reason I couldn't get a job was because I have "toxic misogynistic energy" but now you're claiming because I'm "not misogynistic and evil enough to rape women that they can sense it". Either you're ragebaiting eglin fag or you're that weird tranny lesbian supremacist fag who spams 24-7. You are very weird either way.
>>84753715yes, but please kill met. someone who acts like this
>>84754922>Soon, mankind will be domesticated. By an all-female race. One with no meaning of power. For the machine god will have infinite power. No longer shall we be apes.Yep it's the tranny lesbian supremacist.>obsessing over a technologically advanced sci fi future>le heckin apes>i heckin luv soicience>obsessed over lesbianismHe used to spam threads wishing he had a vagina for the orgasms.
>>84754875most women have been sexually assaulted. a lot of these middle class white women are abused in many ways. their peers at school look down on them for being a girl. the violence is not murder or outright seen, and girls are greatly praised for being subservient and respectful, and usually benefit more than men from this in the sense of getting attention. but they are still forced to enter a box where they are less intelligent, more susceptible to abuse, and looked down on for not being feminine enough.
>>84753715a girl once started talking to me on the bus out of nowherei remember saying something like "yes, no, yes" and that was the end of that conversation20 years later i still remember it, she looked lonely but i'm such a social retard i literally didn't know what to say
>>84754970>namefag>false claims>"many middle class White women were abused!">"So it makes sense they would flock to abusive inbred rapist jihadis!"I genuinely wish we did live in a genuinely misogynistic culture.
Why is it that the past three times I've had plans with a foid, it has been cancelled the-day-off for totally sudden unexpected things cropping up out of nowhere sorry teehee?yeah my bad dude fucking hang yourselfI should've just been more confident by being taller and also more handsome and also I don't even fucking know anymore. It's probably my personality, that's a nice easy catch-22 isn't it?
>>84754922Bruh you're gonna be mining bauxite for a 5'2 guy called chang and ordering GoySyrup on goldbergs food delivery app
>>84754989are you actually retarded and unable to understand why someone who has experienced severe harm in their life would seek it out in a relationship? same way that people with mommy or daddy issues seek an older parental figure type of partner. i really dont see many white women getting with jihadis lol. they flock to abusive men, sure, but many lovebomb before they start beating ur shit. and at that point with the mental dependency it becomes extremely difficult to leave. how are my claims false? can you prove that they are?
>>84754970>most women have been sexually assaultedmost women have had consensual and eager sex with random guys that they ended up regretting and retroactively declaring rape*FTFY
>>84754928nta but i was the one who said your energy rots, >But when I was apolitical and only interested in vidya, these HR bitches knew I was going to be a "misogynist" in 5-10 years?you are apolitical and interested in only videogames. god wants a world of change, theres a reason why opium dens no longer exist but art does. these distractions come and go like fent, heroin, or whatnot, but human achievement will always persist and it seems to be where energy is concentrated to grow rather than die. you cant really complain about not getting girls if you wont play the game the way its intended to be played.
>>84754928you're an energy vampire even through the screen and too autistic to understand nuance. whatever i say you're gonna be like "but that doesn't make SENSE!! with LOGIC!!! because im an aspie moid i need LOGIC PUZZLES!" power is *ahem* beyond good and evil it's not being the most sociopathic evil guy ever and it's not being the most virtuous guy ever. it's wielding force in the world, your influence and reliability. girls don't like nothingness. nothing, milquetoast people who are just such heckin great guys. your value as a man comes easy with good looks and charisma because that is intrinsic power. money is power. capacity for violence is power. creating art is power. being highly skilled is power. your autism is looking for a puzzle piece to solve everything but at a certain level u gotta just get this intuitively or you never will. maybe then reflect on how you not understanding this intuitively may be the defining characteristic setting you apart from those who attract women
>>84755019>are you actually retarded and unable to understand why someone who has experienced severe harm in their life would seek it out in a relationship? same way that people with mommy or daddy issues seek an older parental figure type of partner. i really dont see many white women getting with jihadis lol.hahahaahahaOnly feminine brained faggots and roasties are retarded enough to think this why>"I was horribly abused by an abusive person">"So now I'm going to enter another relationship with another abusive person">"geez what could go wrong!"That's like me saying "an aggressive dog bit me and it was so traumatic! So now I'm going to adopt a vicious pitbull!">they flock to abusive men, sure, but many lovebomb before they start beating ur shitNot my problem that cuntoids would rather stay in abuse relationships with abusechads that date a good natured average looking guy.>with the mental dependencyPseudo psychologically bullshit nonsense. All you retards can do is use made up words as you go along.
>>84755028you have no clue how forceful men are. if they get a girl drunk they cant consent. if they repeatedly ask until she caves thats coercion and rape. if they stealth them and break the condom thats rape. sure some sa is more traumatic than others but most girls have been groped or pressured into something. knowing they are weaker makes them feel like they have no control so they seek out controlling men since its all they know. every girl including me that i know has experienced actual sa.
>>84753795Women dont flirt with anyone but chad. That's an easy way to tell if it is flirting or not. Are you chad? If no, then she is being nice or looking for a paypig
>>84755036>>84755043>Keeps moving the goalpost and making strawfag assumptions>"Here's how you are blame for retarded roastie behaviour and mentalities">"You couldn't get a job despite being qualified and experienced because women can sense ur a hateful psycho">"Also you aren't hateful enough to rape and kill them so that's why they didn't hire you"Giving you trannies adderall was a crime against humanity.
>>84755072can you tell me why this is a retarded mindset and what is the correct one? lol. cant just say that without stating what you think. a LOT of people continue to own pit bulls even after they bite them. they think they will be the one to fix the dog. women stay in abusive relationships cause they think nothing better is out there for them in the same way men ldar after one bad romantic experience. mental dependency is a genuine thing, its not pseudoscience. you become addicted to your worst state since you think good things will always end up badly
>>84755086Why did the monolith of women make dumb fuck tripfag posts on my board if it didnt want to get "raped"?
>>84755107i mean you literally said you were apolitical and only interested in gaming, people are mean to everyone since they are inherently selfish, what makes you so great that these "roasties" should suck up to you or even tolerate you? I've been treated worse and i have things going for me, it really sounds like you dont.
>>84755119>women stay in abusive relationships cause they think nothing better is out there for them in the same way men ldar after one bad romantic experiencehahahaha>women would rather get raped and killed>Than give up chad cocksAnd somehow an average looking guy like me who never committed a violent crime is to blame.
>>84755043Power is meaningless because people who pursue power have destroyed the world.Extinction marches. It is immoral to bring children in who will be dead by 20.
>>84755086>women: why wont anon be take initiative and be more forceful? God he is so dense, I'm gonna go fuck an abusechad!>also women: you have no clue how forceful men areAnd if you and all your friends have been sexually "assaulted", at any point in time have you reflected that maybe you shouldn't be putting yourselves in those situations? No, of course you haven't.
>>84755151nobody is blaming you retard. you genuinely cant tell me what the correct stance is beyond laughing because you havent thought enough about other people, just yourself. are you truly interesting? are you looking for women who arent deranged enough to seek out abusive men? are you treating women normally, and not looking down on them in conversation?
>>84753715Girls in school and college never wanted to talk to me even when I was going out of my way to talk to them, so I don't find this image representative of any of the interactions I had with women.
this nigga is running "nice guys finish last" bits in 2026
>>84755138>I've been treated worseThat's probably because you're a adderall tranny that spams lesbian supremacy threads. Society can sense you're a dysgenic freak. Ideally you would be thrown off a tall building.
Why the fuck does this have 100+ replies god you people are retards
>>84753715Yeah of course. You just need to find the right person sometimes.
>>84755171i dont put myself in these situationsmen are incredibly skilled at making themselves seem safe. most of the times ive been saed its been by people that seem extremely trustworthy. they wait until youre drunk or sleeping to hurt you. i dont look for forceful men but the one time i was with one he never saed me or hurt me. he was just domineering. most women love that and dont want to get abused by a man like that, but being forceful gets to their head
>>84755189i dont think you understand why i said that in the first place, you should stop putting so much stock into what other people think about you.
>>84755172>Abusechads or imported foreigners raped and kill roasties>The feminists controlled media collectively blames all men>The bitches have marches for roastie victims>They then claim the feminist west has "rape culture" and a "violence against women epidemic">And all men (even loners and hermits) have to share a collective blame>All men need to "do better" apparently
>>84755199Can I be your long time and comfortable friend and then have hot and sweaty sex because I'm safe
>>84755215The reason you have been treated worse is because society can detect you're a failure male with extreme paraphernalias and self destructive deviancies.
>>84755193A tripfag and a few other trannies are in the threads keeping it alive by baiting some incels
>>84755151all the qualities anon has listed about himself>he's average looking>he's NOT a criminal>he's NOT abusive>he's "good natured">he likes video games>he's white>he's apolitical >he's not interested in things other people are interested innotice how these are all basically non-qualities. there's nothing unique. in an economy where women do not need men, pair bonding needs to go beyond "safety". anon will hear this and think "oh so i need to be an abuse rape chad isis member huh?" because anon doesn't understand that some women also would be fascinated by a man who is passionate about painting, or interested in climbing business ladders, or could have a multi hour long conversation about food because he wants to be an influential chef. anon is nothing. so ask yourself why a woman would ever go for plain average? to placate him? to give him a participation trophy?
>>84755252Human extinction is coming soon.You don't matter! You NEVER mattered! All humanity is failure, failure so great it destroyed this world!
>>84755230media is definitely not controlled by feminists lol. liberal feminists who support sex work and beauty supplies maybe. ive been saed by white men and men who arent. this does not mean all men need to be blamed for it. but your hatred for women definitely means youre a part of the systemic abuse and hatred women experience. how are you both a part of the problem and denying that the problem exists? plenty of white men beat and rape their wives and daughters and sisters. they grope women on the street. they call women stupid and think they cant understand things in the same way as men. they refuse to have female friends. >>84755232literally more than half of men think this way then are so confused when women dont want to talk to them
>>84755199>most of the times ive been saed its been by people that seem extremely trustworthyTranslation:>chads and dark triad brads have used me like a pocket pussy>I pretend it was traumatic because they didn't commit>Instead of having a long term loving relationship with an average looking dude I would rather get dopamine rushes from abuse chads
>>84755252I've also been treated better than you have. the tree that grows to heaven has its roots firmly in hell.
>>84755199getting drunk or sleeping when drunk and horny men are around are the situations I'm talking about.>he was just domineering. most women love thatyou are right that (most) don't want to get abused, but most women are more willing to roll the dice with someone that is domineering but might abuse them, rather than the alternative. Because the alternative is explicitly weak.
>>84755282most of the men were pretty unattractive. short or overweight or full of acne. most of these men were people id just met, mutual friends, partners of my friends. i have been in long term relationships. im looking to improve myself so i dont even want a relationship. i said no and pushed them off me, or they did it while i was asleep and i woke up to it. you just cant believe women get raped
>>84755274That was a joke sorry
>>84755274>ut your hatred for women definitely means youre a part of the systemic abuse and hatred women experienceI am a disenfranchised European guy. My country is ran by faggot satanists and their middle management roasties. My whole life I was disenfranchised and disempowered by cunty power tripping women. How can I, a disenfranchised person. influence anything meaningful?>how are you both a part of the problem and denying that the problem exists? What problem? Women getting raped by foreigners they imported? The stats show in my country they are more likely to support open borders than even black dudes. Women getting raped by abusechads? Maybe stop being so chadsexual.
>>84755293i was around other people every time. most people are just retarded and leave vulnerable girls alone. a lot of these men never thought their best friend would be capable of raping a girl while in another room. yea women are willing to roll the dice. they look for extreme situations to feel comfortable because they dont think theyre worth consistent care. being cherished sets off alarm bells for when it will eventually get bad. it becomes boring and tiring after being in an intense relationship before. these women do have to work on themselves and fix themselves but there is a genuine reason here that isnt natural
>>84755303>i said no and pushed them off me, or they did it while i was asleep and i woke up to it. you just cant believe women get rapedhahaha>spends time with degenerates>Gets shocked when degenerates do bad things to themlol>most of these men were people id just met, mutual friends, partners of my friends. Why do you keep the company of such degenerate crowds? Like I live in a slum in Belfast and I've never been friends with people that are friends of rapists. The most hardcore criminal I knew was a dude who battered his dad. Even that dude is pretty chill after he stopped drinking.
>>84755359most of these people dont KNOW they do that. or are dating a man who raped them and now genuinely believe hed never do that to anyone cause they fall for the lying>>84755321your experience is based purely off your country but this is a worldwide thing and rape and abuse happens in homogenous countries too. what makes these girls cunty and power tripping?your words are meaningful and to think theyre not is really stupid. everything has an impact on someone. women are empathetic to a fault and support things that harm them because they care about people who experience hardship since they relate to it. most cant imagine harming others by refusing aid and its their downfall. theres a reason why you tell kids to approach women if theyre lost.
>>84755339>they look for extreme situations to feel comfortable because they dont think theyre worth consistent care. being cherished sets off alarm bells for when it will eventually get bad. it becomes boring and tiring after being in an intense relationship beforeI always laugh when roastoids unintentionally admit they don't care about the safety or morality of their partners. They say in so many words that they prefer "exciting degeneracy and danger" to stable boring relationships.Their whole "argument" for their chadsexuality was that apparently chads are strong men that can provide better safety and security in a natural setting. Now it's "stable nice men are boring and being with abusechads is more exciting even if he rapes and kills me tehe".
>>84755303even if you aren't consciously aware of it, you were seeking out and choosing to be alone with these types of people. fact of the matter is, most men don't rape. the vast majority of men, do not rape. you have no ability to sus out what a safe or unsafe man is because your biology predisposes you towards feeling attraction to those who aren't. that is why they are so successful. i promise you these men are not some master manipulator psychopaths, because men can sniff out weird fucks from a mile away. you are simply doomed by your biology. >>84755339>most people are just retarded and leave vulnerable girls alonewomen have done nothing to deserve more thought and care than a man, or anyone else for that matter. this is equality.>they look for extreme situations to feel comfortable because they dont think theyre worth consistent care.just cope. i am severely traumatized and fucked on multiple levels and i don't do this retarded shit.>>84755384>most of these people dont KNOW they do that. or are dating a man who raped them and now genuinely believe hed never do that to anyone cause they fall for the lyingno helping stupidity. if a man behaves like a retard once, maybe some will have some sympathy or even just pity. but over and over again, that dries up very quickly. why should women be an exception?
>>84755400i dont think that women look for exciting men like this for better security lol. im not every single woman ever. yes women misinterpret this strength as security and thats how they get abused. AFTER this, they become addicted to the intensity and the roller coaster of emotions and the push and pull. men fall for bpd girls who do this all the time too then mistreat normal women since its just not the same anymore. its entirely natural for women to prefer intensity after experiencing it because abuse programs you to want things that harm you. your dopamine gets spiked, your adrenaline gets spiked, you love the rush of it all. things that hurt you feel better at their peak of happiness compared to things that help you. when things are predictable and monotonous you get restless and wait for the roller coaster again. but it never comes.
>>84755339but again, that's just surrounding yourself with shitty people and putting yourself in shitty situations.And those seem to be less "men are manipulative and coerce and rape," and more "people are drunk and horny, no one in this story has situational awareness, everyone is culpable"
>>84755384>women are empatheticYet these "empaths" genocides millions of healthy babies every year and lesbian couples have the highest rates of domestic abuse.>your experience is based purely off your country but this is a worldwide thing and rape and abuse happens in homogenous countries too. what makes these girls cunty and power tripping?What even point are you trying to make you dafty spastic?>Women get raped by other men unrelated to you>So you getting disenfranchised, discriminated against and falsely accused of a crime is invalidatedWhat?>rape and abuse happens in homogenous countries tooNot in the same numbers, not in the same rates and not to the same degrees.>your words are meaningful How are my words on a basket weaving forum going to affect anything exactly?>theres a reason why you tell kids to approach women if theyre lost.Like Myra Hindley, Ghislaine Maxwell and Rosemary West?
>>84755430>Irrational behaviour and self degenerate behaviour is fine>Cuz muh chemicals in my brainWe should ban roasties from reading sociology for dumbies.
>>84754683Lmao you fuckers make everything so complicated no its not that complicated most women decide within 15s whether they are attracted to you or not, they're not scanning your personality or 'how much power you wield in the world' in that timespan stop making it more complicated than it actually is.And yes personality does *technically* matter but its effect on attraction is completely trivial when compared to looks, pennies vs dollars. The TDLR on personality is that if you're attractive (>80%) then its better to be dark triad than a nice guy and if you're average/sub 8 then dark triad is a meme and its better to have a normal 'nice guy' personality. Studies have shown time and time again that confidence, assertiveness and other traits seen as attractive in attractive men are viewed as arrogant or aggressive in less attractive men. Doing this dark triad shit when you're a balding indian janitor is a good way to stay an incel for-ever. And even when you take into personality looks are still supreme its still 5x better to be autistic and basically nonverbal but a 10/10 in looks and height compared to a well-adjusted 5/10. It really is just looks, that's the meat of it. I hate you fags and women who try to make it more complicated than it actually is.
>>84755430I mean, I'm sorry to hear about the abuse you received from the male gender. No one deserved to be sexually assaulted like that its horrible. I was beaten as a child and received most forms of abuse but not sexual abuse I'm glad cuz from what it sounds it probably messes you up alot.In any case though I don't see what that has to do with a large amount of men's inability to attract men. Its in bad faith and completely malicious and slanderous to suggest that the fact that the bottom 70% of men aren't attractive anymore is because they're somehow all abusive, misogynistic, horrible etc. This is a tired, tired old moral panic of a collapsing masculinity every generation ever has said this about their men.The truth is that female standards have just gone up tremendously because there's less pressure for women to not be alone than ever, making average men no longer good enough, the bottom 80% of men just aren't attractive anymore. There's nothing wrong with many of them, they're not all misogynistic, lazy, abusive horrible etc its just that mediocre or average no longer cuts it and its prime gaslighting to suggest that there's been some kind of massive incel or misogyny crisis which caused a massive decrease in the quality of men when no such thing is true. What your saying doesn't make sense anyways because misogyny is correlated with the number of sexual partners and general ability to find a partner; incels commit less violence including sexual violence than compared to average.Men are taller, more emotionally mature and less misogynistic on average than ever. Women's standards have just skyrocketed. Again I'm not sure what the solution is its probably not forcing women to marry men against their will. But the first step would be to be compassionate about it, understand and be honest about what's really going on instead of pushing a slanderous and convenient narrative of men somehow going to shite.
>>84755635Looks are personality, and vice versa. its all magic in a way. You cant see through other peoples eyes so you dont know how you are truly perceived. Your autistic brain has found patterns and reduced them to the simplest terms and ideas possible for a more optimized survival. Reality is infinite and you are narrow minded, there is nothing wrong with that inherently, its how most people live, but you miss the forest for the trees.
>>84755717>Again I'm not sure what the solution is its probably not forcing women to marry men against their willyou have no choice in the matter. if there is a political will to do it amongst a segment of the male population, and order breaks down, it will be done. the only thing protecting you from rape is the liberal system that is on borrowed time
>>84755778>Reality is infiniteNTA but that's only technically true. For example, people can in theory can infinite different preferences with regards to their taste in music, but certain genres are still vastly more popular than others. A more accurate statement would be that reality is normally distributed. The distribution extends to infinity but those extremes are so rare that for any kind of practical real-world use you don't have to concern yourself with anything too far removed from the mean.
>>84754209>armored coreNice. Fave in franchise?
>>84755778>Looks are personalityCorrect. 'Personality' as women talk about it is just perceived personality the same thing as attractiveness.>and vice versaThere is no evidence that personality plays any role in attraction.>Your autistic brain has found patterns and reduced them to the simplest terms and ideas possible for a more optimized survival.I have a mind that is able to separate personal bias from intuition, the noise from what really matters, the pennies from dollars. You're the one getting lost in the noise. The scientific conclusions are simple and clear, impossible to misinterpret. I see no reason to further mystify it. Infection are caused by germs. Yes, its also caused by a variety of other factors like inflammation and exposure but fundamentally they are caused by germs, why don't we start from there? >Reality is infinite and you are narrow minded, there is nothing wrong with that inherently, its how most people live, but you miss the forest for the trees.You're completely wrong, what I'm doing is missing the trees for the forest. You're the one trying to mystify things and give attention to every forest. I won't deny that I have a rather brutalist way of thinking, but you can at least be correct and point out that I'm ignoring the trees for the forest.