Why is AI inapable of writing good song lyrics? It doesn't matter how you prompt it, it's going to write some dogshit that is either ridiculously simple or too specific in an annoying way. Half a decade of LLM training and it hasn't improved at all. You can even ask AI to choose which lyrics are AI and which are human, and it will guess correctly most of the time.
>>84762200I've used codex, claude, and other models on extra-high with thousands of examples of good song lyrics as a reference, iterating to improve the lyrics and it's still dogshit.
>>84762200The reason is because ai has no lived experience or point of reference. All it can do is come up with generic stuff.
>>84762200Most songs aren't lyrically composed in one go.Also large language models aren't made for making songs, and no money will be made by spending time improving that skillset in any given AI.That's why you haven't seen it get better at that.It's also why AI can't spin a plate on it's nose, nor is it programmed with the entire galactic coordinates of all known stars and planets.Hope this helps!
>>84762387>Also large language models aren't made for making songs, and no money will be made by spending time improving that skillset in any given AI.Even if it was trained to be better, it still wouldn't be as good as the top humans. Just admit that this is one field that LLMs will never actually be good at.
>>84762200Nobody teaches you the nuance that comes with twisting the language a bit to fit the words in a clearer way when you sing themAI is just trying to do something that rhymes with a standard pattern, like a shitty poem. Nobody does music like that.
>>84762483I think it's also because songwriting is quite chaotic and often the best line or word isn't the one that makes the most sense which LLMs basically try to do (predict the next word).
>>84762200because it's literally a reddit comment blender
>>84762200I can only speculate but if you ask something that is incapable of feeling emotionsits not gona deliver an emotional response you seek music is basically a moodanger sadness love etc etcits all inseparable from songs
AI thinks that's good lyrics because a lot of lyrics actually are like that
>>84762615Almost no professional is writing "you laughed like a melody" unless they're 15 or retarded.
>>84762200good lyrics are about an emotion experienced through the writers unique perspective. ai is a dataset of collected information
>>84762200Those aren't even bad
>>84762642If you genuinely think that, you've almost exclusively consumed very bad music.
>>84762200because LLMs are good at determining what word is the most likely one given all of the previous words it received. while good for some tasks it's pretty shitty for things where you want something that's rather uncommon to stand out from the masses. tho tbdesu if you wanna write some generic shit that will be played in retail stores over the radio picrel would be good enough
>>84762682>tho tbdesu if you wanna write some generic shit that will be played in retail stores over the radio picrel would be good enoughPossibly, but even the pop hits of the past generally have some good lines in them. Maybe in 2026 though who knows.
Why do you think you fucking retard you couldn't even figure that out on your own and had to ask /r9k/Just ask the robot what it thinks since you clearly cant piece two thoughts together on your own
>>84762731>He thinks people ask questions only to attain information
>>84762200It's horrific at writing period. If you prompt like a dozen writing exercises (or even the same one a dozen times) the patterns they follow will become immediately apparent.
>>84762775It seems to be somewhat decent at writing if you give it enough information like an essay or something, but yeah creative writing is terrible.
>>84762585A lot of times you're trying to fit the words on a beat/rhythm, not the opposite
>>84762847I think track and hook is pretty popular nowadays so that's the case, but in the past they would often write the lyrics first and then write the song around it. I know Elton John and Earnie Taupin did it, and a modern example is Fall Out Boy in the 2000s.
>>8476220099% of real lyrics are dogshit too. I barely care about lyrics at all for this reason
>>84763524>99% of real lyrics are dogshit too.They're often bad, but usually there's at least some story behind them. Not just random phrases. It's like AI slop art pretending to be a classical painting vs a 12 year olds drawings.
>>84762200I wrote this in 2 minutes what do you think?Well I wrote this song about a perfect sunny day, yeah And i woke up tripping because it all turned out that way I slip into my shorts and an old t-shirt I roll myself a smoke and bust it out on the curb Do you know the place where the skies are never grey?
