>your type
>if I give you a piss test what will I find?

>>84770219
not a clue
I'm dehydrated

>>84770225
welcome to the thread cutie pie, *squishes your butt* drink some water *puts bottle in mouf*

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Those threads are getting gayer and gayer
>pride month
Oh right, that. I just pulled a massive introverted move and completely ignored its existence. And I'm proud of it! I'm integrating the opposite attitude, see?

Sorry about being gay and sexually aggressive towards anon. I didn't mean to do that. I thought anon was a girl.

>>84770232
*glug glug glug*
Cough splutter
*Awkghghgh* *glug*
*glug* *glug* *glug*

>>84770246
Good Girl /pet /pet /pet

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>>84770236
Sorry, I included the Zestiest philospher of all time in this one. It was inevitable really. I've been putting him off because of the likelyness he'd keep us up all night with his super men, but if Joong's mentioning him that means his spirit is getting unleashed.

Also I probably should have asked for Thus Spoke Zestythustra since I think now that it'd look better, but the AI refuses to make that edit now.

>>84770236
you get meaner every thread

>>84770359
Reverting back to his mean.

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>>84770212
Bored enough to answer today, also hey it's a literal PT-inspired set of questions.

>>Your Mbti
INTP, INTJ, ENTP, ENFP, INFJ, ENTP again
Or a Jungian EN(T) who likes to invest in Feeling, sometimes. Thinking is already min-maxed enough you know.
>>Do you think that things like red and hard exist only as labels used to describe and categorize objects?
The words themselves are indeed just labels. They mean nothing on their own without context.
Failure to abide to this viewpoint produces people such as certain anons who cannot read for shit. This becomes extremely obvious if you are multilingual especially, much gets lost in translation because the meaning of certain words doesn't always transfer in another language when you don't know what was the original cultural/historical context for a specific term.
>>Do you think things like red and hard exist in their own right, outside of the things they are used to describe?
It would be pretty much the only way to explain archetypes. So let's say that it applies to things that aren't too specific, only "archetypal".
>>(Optional) Do you think people that see things differently from you are stupid?
I will go with "differently intelligent".
>>(Secret) What is your sexual Orientation?
Magical Girls

>>84770359
Nice guys don't get the girls, 3D or 2D ones.

>>84770354
Are you ignoring "The Gay Science"?
Thought everyone knew this purely from the title alone.

>>84770455
>Are you ignoring "The Gay Science"?
Too easy, what's the point of gathering low hanging fruit? I thought we were more sophisticated than that here. Ecce Homo might be one to keep in the back pocket mind you.

>>84770455
Do you get the girls?

>>84770491
Of course, but then I fuck it up (on purpose).

sorry, you're not getting rid of me with your gay psyop shit
fuck trannies
fuck faggots
fuck women

that is all

>>84770499
>Of course, but then I fuck it up (on purpose).
why

>>84770522
Can't say I know for sure, but I'm all fun and games until shit gets too real.
Though, unlike most anons on this board, I figured I might not need a gf at all. So I'm here only for the MBTI threads and other hobby boards.

>>84768654
>what's good about it
It was a joke; that happens to be how tall I am.

>>84770212
>Your Mbti
ESFP-T
>Do you think that things like red and hard exist only as labels used to describe and categorize objects?
That tracks.
>Do you think things like red and hard exist in their own right, outside of the things they are used to describe?
I guess red could be concretely defined as a specific range of frequencies of visible light. Hardness on the other hand is really relative to whatever you're talking about. A mattress that's too hard to sleep on comfortably is probably going to be too soft to stop a rifle round.
>(Optional) Do you think people that see things differently from you are stupid?
Absolutely not.
>(Secret) What is your sexual Orientation?
Bi with a heavy leaning towards other girls.

>heartfag confirmed bad boy
biggest lore in years

>>84770354
Speaking of this pic, the Nietzsche's bust in the background is a very nice touch.
Jung described it in the seminar I'm reading and said something about being shaped around a metaphor involving an eagle and a serpent(I'm not seeing it at all but ok)

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INTJ Man.
Hate my life, my self, and pretty much everything.
Hope a giant meteor hits, that or i'm just shooting myself.

>>84770662
Very cute ISFP.

>>84770212
>Your Mbti
INTJ-T
>Do you think that things like red and hard exist only as labels used to describe and categorize objects?
What? No the concept of "red" or "hard" does not literally exist, those are adjectives that describe things that exist.
>Do you think things like red and hard exist in their own right, outside of the things they are used to describe?
You would need to be retarded and read plato to believe that 'hard' exist physically.
>(Optional) Do you think people that see things differently from you are stupid?
No I think that people with low IQ are stupid.
>(Secret) What is your sexual Orientation?
I am a straight male sissy.

Kinda want to re-read actual PT now, but I guess anon will eventually dump every paragraph anyways, that counts as re-read.

>>84770662
INFP-T here, I feel the same, apart from the giant meteor or shooting myself.
Don't give in man. There's plenty of time for things to improov.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElZOmv-44Xk

>>84770559
>being your age and having no self-insight
is this an entp thing

>>84770860
Maybe?
>extraversion
>thinking over feeling
That does mean you don't pay much attention to the realm of feeling and introversion before actually acting. It happens after the fact.
But that being said, I'm describing stuff that hasn't been happening in years now.

>Your Mbti
INFJ
>Do you think that things like red and hard exist only as labels used to describe and categorize objects?
They are subjective and would not exist without human observation and categorization.
>Do you think things like red and hard exist in their own right, outside of the things they are used to describe?
No. See above.
>(Optional) Do you think people that see things differently from you are stupid?
No. People can have objectively poor reasoning or logic, but someone disagreeing with me does not imply they are stupid. I am sure there are plenty of holes in the way I see things, but you can't check yourself on everything.
>(Secret) What is your sexual Orientation?
I am a heteroflexible, but could only be in a straight relationship I think.

>>84771044
>would not exist without human observation and categorization.
It would still exist and you are forgetting that other intelligent life could categorize it as similar.

>>84764413
Ooh, martyr me martyr me with Stage Magick!
https://youtu.be/eJjvChERPrE
Ladybug Decode La Petit Mal Mort Wort

>>84770571
Have you heard the good news yet?

https://youtu.be/pQlenskhoxI

>>84770571
>Bi with a heavy leaning towards other girls.
has a boyfriend and talks about how she sucks his cock in front of her family btw, lesbian tho baka
The kids are not alright

>>84771428
Oi! That's very rude

Rootwork practices? Anyone?

A paragraph isn't a guarantee of stimuli

>>84771087
Fair point.
Should have described it as general intelligence, versus human intelligence, as that works better.
I think the way I see it is, what is considered hard or red may change based on the viewer.
Say there's an element that is extraordinarily hard. That is the only element an intelligence has interacted with. Then, that intelligence interacts with an element that has slightly more give, but would still be considered hard to someone who had touched a variety of material. To the intelligence, due to their reference point of one having touched the first element, the second would be considered soft, even if it objectively wasn't to you, yourself.
The universe in itself does not recognize something to be hard or soft, it takes an intelligence to label it so.
Colors aren't seen the same way even across all humans, as well. Vietnamese, for example, has a single word for both blue and green.
I'm open to hearing another side to this, though.

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Well that was a fun adventure, realised I was starting to develop ass pimples so went on a quest for slop. Failed miserably and ended up with chicken breasts and broccoli. Oh well, at least I got donuts too so it wasn't a complete wash. Bed time already I suppose. I wonder what sort of coffee I should get from the nice man on the way to work.

>>84770212
>Your Mbti
>Do you think that things like red and hard exist only as labels used to describe and categorize objects?
Yes, we're all just vibrating orbs pushing each other apart in the end.
>Do you think things like red and hard exist in their own right, outside of the things they are used to describe?
No, that would be pure mysticism
>(Optional) Do you think people that see things differently from you are stupid?
Not stupid necessarily, but it does worry me to think we live in the same world, where two completely different things can be obvious to both of us, and that never being resolved.
>(Secret) What is your sexual Orientation?
I'm straight

>>84771087
>other intelligent life
Makes me wonder how hard it would be to explain our colours to an alien who only sees in a different part of the electromagnetic spectrum from us. If we could actually communicate with them we could probably reach a shared understanding, but actually even knowing what they can see sounds like a hassle. We need machines and science to know that flowers can be ultraviolet coloured, which makes us basically colourblind compared to mice, birds and insects. Imagine dealing with a creature that just sees straight through paper or something. What a nightmare! Hopefully if they come here first they'll do the hard part of figuring out what we can see in relation to them on our behalf.

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>Whether a function is differentiated or not can easily be recognized from its strength, stability, consistency, reliability, and adaptedness. But inferiority in a function is often not so easy to recognize or to describe.
>An essential criterion is its lack of self-sufficiency and consequent dependence on people and circumstances, its disposing us to moods and crotchetiness, its unreliable use, its suggestible and labile character. The inferior function always puts us at a disadvantage because we cannot direct it, but are rather its victims.
That sounds easy in theory, but in actual practice it's another story.
Also "technically part of PT but not really because it's one of the four papers attached at the end".

>>84772431
Yeah that sounds like me when it comes to pretty much anything basically. I always did say I have a very low level of individualization. Is it possible to have four inferior functions? Well of course we know it's possible, but what proportion of people would you say suffer from this condition? Maybe even having a type is aspirational.

>>84772474
>Is it possible to have four inferior functions?
In theory yes, but at that point you would be closer to a LLM than human.
> but what proportion of people would you say suffer from this condition?
Good question. I have a feeling there is at least an amount of people, like 1/5 of general population at best whose functions are basically all inferior.
Majority should fit in one function+a relatively developed auxiliary. And maybe there is a minority who pushed beyond that and differentiated very well both their superior function, an auxiliary, and maybe reached to the second one. Like a 1/10 case here.

>>84772411
Can you start a youtube and tell more stories?

So do I really have to lie about my type to avoid being mistreated by all the regulars?

If you keep posting you'll be identified as a regular because there are less people that use the thread than total personality types and then Anon scary ghost reggy will bully you and live in your walls

I'm never noticed or remembered. There's a few posters who I like to interact here when I see them. Some of the people here are mean though.

>>84773522
What posters do you like to talk to?

>>84771247
I was disappointed in later entries in the franchise, though that does look pretty cool.

>>84771428
That is a VERY distorted retelling of the story.

>>84770217
>He literally just said neitszche is an extreme nominalist
No he didn't.

>>84773823
I don't want to say because if I talk about them everyone else will also want to like them. It's like a band when no one else knows about them. Even if they deserve to be known far and wide in my ready for that yet.

lol at heartfag's bad boy larp. he is the nicest and most moral reg we've ever had

Mistreat a reggy today for only bennies on the dollar your rent will go towards spitting in [regular]'s mouths

Yes, the one with all the mouths. That one is my favorite to cruise for bruising from

soul: turbie, lilac, mosley
soulless: rxy, megumin, turbie enjoyer

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I'll double it and pay it forward to all the Sovlless, thanks!

I'mma let you finish but blackmagic's drunken rants are the most soulful thing this place will ever see

>>84774893
What makes you so sure his goodboi facade isn't the larp

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Nobody here has any facade we can't all see through effectively rendering it useless

Unless the point of the facade is to be seen through in order for you to miss the facade behind it

>>84770212
>>Your Mbti
infp-a
>>Do you think that things like red and hard exist only as labels used to describe and categorize objects?
dunno what this is
>>Do you think things like red and hard exist in their own right, outside of the things they are used to describe?
dunno what this is
>>(Optional) Do you think people that see things differently from you are stupid?
no
>>(Secret) What is your sexual Orientation?
hetero/straight

>>84775447
Been there [pun]'d'at
Trip and Grace's marriage in SPIDER SHAMBLES

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>>84770212
INx(oxo)
>Do you think that things like red and hard exist only as labels used to describe and categorize objects?
Hard, yes; Red, no.
>Do you think things like red and hard exist in their own right, outside of the things they are used to describe?
Red, yes; Hard, no.
>Do you think people that see things differently from you are stupid?
Pretty much, yeah.
>(Secret)
Virgin But more seriously, Fifth House Sagittarius holds Venus, Seventh House Aquarius and Eighth House Pieces are empty
>We need a better link for this
What's wrong with it?

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>>84770212
>>Your Mbti
INFJ
>>Do you think that things like red and hard exist only as labels used to describe and categorize objects?
It's like a pointer in programming, but pointing this out doesn't really say anything consequential imo
>>Do you think things like red and hard exist in their own right, outside of the things they are used to describe?
If it's outside of what it's describing then I'm guessing ur just talking about the language? I would say it exists but only as words that people have acknowledged to identify the color red(the light frequencies) and hardness
>>(Optional) Do you think people that see things differently from you are stupid?
I mean not really
There's a billion reasons why that would happen that don't necessarily point to them being stupid. Some even point to them being smarter
>>(Secret) What is your sexual Orientation?
I'm straight
Well, as straight as anybody who likes femdom backside stuff, which idk how straight that is

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>>84775447
Then what did he mean by
> This is extreme nominalism, as it is when Nietzsche says that reason is "speech metaphysics."
There's also that the thing you hate called reality where Nietzsche was a nominalist. Thanks Google!

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>>84770212
>Your Mbti
INTP-T
>Do you think that things like red and hard exist only as labels used to describe and categorize objects?
No, they exist because they have a meaning they're things that are easier to do and other things that are harder to do, red is just a color.
>Do you think things like red and hard exist in their own right, outside of the things they are used to describe?
No they describe things
>(Optional) Do you think people that see things differently from you are stupid?
Yes
>(Secret) What is your sexual Orientation?
Straight male

>>84776276
Oops! I miss directed my snarky phone post. Sorry anon!
>84774105

>only one meme arrow
Oh come on! I hate the phone post christ

>>84776162
The current link is super long and leads to an archived version of a Russian book. It would be a lot better if someone could just upload it again somewhere else or something in a form that's easier to read/translate and doesn't take up half the OP.

>>84776317
>>84774105
You're welcome anon kon

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>>84776276
Tbf it makes sense, but I don't want to spoil. Let the other anon figure it out.
Nietzsche is also associated with the Dionysian btw.

>>84772544
>closer to a LLM than human.
I have been called that in the past yesterday. Notably by my younger sister.

>>84772676
Alas, I just spent the last two years not buying shoes. Getting all the right equipment sounds like a hassle.

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>>84776375
Could be worse. She didn't call you an introverted feeling type after all.

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>>84776276
It's very simple. He isn't saying Nietzsche is an extreme nominalist. He's saying `reason is "speech metaphysics."` is an example of extreme nominalism.

Nietzsche doesn't reject the existence of the universals. He simply says that they are something we create.
Calling Nietzsche a nominalist would be like calling Jung a Gnostic.

It's kind of funny that, misunderstanding what Jung is saying to mean "Nietzsche is a nominalist" is precisely the critique Nietzsche is making about reason/language. There's a tinge of irony in that misunderstanding.

>>84776541
>According to him, the fact existence is completely chaotic, irrational and unintelligible does not mean it is unreal, because reality does not have to conform to humanity's logical prejudices. He strongly criticized the belief that the present, real world is merely a prelude or an imitation of a "True World" or "better world", such as Plato's Realm of forms or the Heaven featured in many religions. He claimed that positing a fake world is a sign of decadence and a form of life-denial, a prelude to nihilism and pessimism, since it leads people to devalue their real life and see it as cruel and unfair by constantly comparing it to an idealized and nonexistent "perfect life".
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_Friedrich_Nietzsche
And Plato's forms are peak realism, in fact it's basically the entire foundation of realism.

As for the Ubermensch, he creates morality and meaning, but that wouldn't have universal validity because anyone else can become a Ubermensch and claim the opposite.
tl;dr Nietzsche is a Chaosfag.

>>84770212
>Your Mbti
INTP
>Do you think that things like red and hard exist only as labels used to describe and categorize objects?
I think there's definitions, which are more or less mental expectations, and there's actual ontological states (molecular arrangements that correspond to redness or hardness), but I can't conceive of a redness sustaining its own existence in an ideal Platonic realm, irrespective of mental states or physical presences.
>Do you think things like red and hard exist in their own right, outside of the things they are used to describe?
There's definitions, but I see those as mental expectations, not as platonic entities.
>(Optional) Do you think people that see things differently from you are stupid?
Some might be. Some might not be at all. I might dislike them for it, or appreciate them for their novel viewpoints, and in any combination of the above.
>(Secret) What is your sexual Orientation?
Did /r9k/ always have spoilers?

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>>84776541
Reddit seems to disagree but I guess I'll have to keep reading. I assume Jung bringing him up so early means we'll get back to the topic and find out for real

>>84776788
Spoiler: anon has no idea what he's talking about(as usual).
We can all agree Nietzsche would be called nominalist, or at very least definitely not a realist.

>>84776621
Multiple Ubermensches disagreeing or claiming the opposite is already somewhat paradoxical, though. Because the Ubermensch is not "a person", it's a symbol that represents the ideal of "self overcoming".
>>84776788
Something should be clarified. Nietzsche does believe in objective empirical truth, but no person can access that objective truth due to the fact it is filtered through one's own personal perception and psyche. And that any attempt to identify the "object" would merely be an interpretation of that object and not the object itself.

There's a three tiered system:
Object in itself -> your perception -> language/thought

But the idea of "object in itself" is a result of language and perception, and quite blatantly rejects the notion that this idea of "object in itself" can be separated from interpretation.
(the paradox of trying to explain this is that you have to fall into the pitfall of language that Nietzsche critiques by saying things don't exist in the way that we think they do.)

>>84776840
>Multiple Ubermensches disagreeing or claiming the opposite is already somewhat paradoxical, though. Because the Ubermensch is not "a person", it's a symbol that represents the ideal of "self overcoming".
Think this is easier to understand if you contrast it with a Christian for instance.
If you are Christian, you claim that the word of the Christian God would be the highest principle for truth and morality. Christians might disagree on interpretation, but we are trying to set an universal standard.
If you are Ubermensch, you claim that there is no such a thing as a highest principle for truth and morality, but you have created your own. If you have followers they might struggle with interpretation, but another Ubermensch can indeed set a completely different principle that's contradictory to yours. Guess at this point you either adjust to each other, or go full Chaosfaggotry and fight for it, whoever comes on top is more truhtful and moral.

>>84776901
You're very much misunderstanding Nietzsche.
You've even framed the Ubermensch as just another priest preaching a new ruleset. Like somehow the Ubermensch is competing with Christianity for "truth" while claiming to deny it. But that's completely inaccurate. That idea is the exact thing Nietzsche critiques.

Yuck.

>>84777021
>You've even framed the Ubermensch as just another priest preaching a new ruleset.
They aren't really "preaching" it, that's not necessary in the slightest and in fact it might be a sign that you want somebody else to embody your ideals rather than yourself.
What's important here is that you will have to figure out your standards for truth and morality and live through them.
>Like somehow the Ubermensch is competing with Christianity for "truth" while claiming to deny it.
That is possible, but not necessary. For all you know they could align perfectly by chance, but they have nothing to do with God(because "God is dead")

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Alright that was enough fucking around, let me speedrun the conclusion here:

Nominalism is an extraverted view of the world, but it was conceived by introverts.
Realism is an introverted view of the world, but it was conceived by extraverts.

>How does that work?
Basically, your conscious attitude represents the will of the individual, but not the fate of the entire world and thus the "collective"(unless you believe you can fully shape that yourself, I guess?)
The latter would be associated with the unconscious, the opposite attitude.

If you read between the lines, you will notice that Nominalism would lead to the Nietzschean views where the individual, his views and his will would be the sole arbiters of truth/morals because there simply isn't another point of reference available. The world is chaos on its own, but you could say that each individual has their own design. That's where the introversion comes in.
Likewise, Realism would lead to a traditional religious view where the individual only matters in so far he's adjusted to an external higher ideal, he can only discover the world of forms but he doesn't impose his will on it. The world follows a certain design(supposedly given by God), but apparently there are imperfections that do not follow it so it's in your best interest to correct that both in yourself and other people. And that's where the extraversion comes in.

>But couldn't you automatically claim that Nietzsche(or anyone else) is extraverted if he holds an extraverted view?
Nyo. Jung was explicit enough that you can separate the man from specific ideas he might write about, or certain views that don't belong to his life.
Nietzsche himself isn't claiming to be an Ubermensch y'know. He also isn't claiming to have lived in a Dionysian style.

Strange that everyone in the thread claims to be straight but sits on r9k where every other thread is a huge throbbing cock

The cock is a personification of the unconscious homosexuality I guess.

>>84777061
You're missing the point, it doesn't matter if they're preaching or not. What matters is that they're attempting to set up a countering framework, and trying to replace one set of rules with another set of rules.
But also, preaching itself is another problem because it puts one in a position of stating something as a matter of fact "listen to me, I have the answer to your life's problems!"

The Ubermensch does not create a moral system, and that's where the massive flaw is in what you're saying.

>>84777157
>Nominalism is an extraverted sensation view of the world

>>84777283
>The Ubermensch does not create a moral system, and that's where the massive flaw is in what you're saying.
But by definition, the Ubermensch is one capable of creating subjective values amongst the fully undirected chaos where no higher principle exists.
I'm not claiming those have to be objective or the only available "set of rules".

>>84777301
Don't think it's meant to represent only sensation or any of the functions really.

>>84777303
>fully undirected chaos where no higher principle exists.
This is an incorrect framing. It's a claim of ultimate certainty just inverted, which Nietzsche rejects.
He rejects the yes/no structure of that question entirely.
As such, the Ubermensch doesn't start from a position of assuming there's no higher principle. But rather from a position of asking why we assume morality must be grounded in a single higher principle at all, and what were the influences that lead to the assumption existing.

The Ubermensch doesn't operate in the framework of whether or not the higher principle exists. It represents an ideal type of becoming, or self overcoming, where the framework has lost its authority, and value emerges through the creative process of life actively expressing itself.
It's not simply changing the rules by which one lives. It's a complete reorganization of the organizing principles, which govern life itself.

>>84776788
>Reddit seems to disagree
Seems like a point in his favor to me.
>>84776328
Fair enough, i suppose, but the next you added is half the length of the link. Personally, i like that link, it's hard core.

>>84777272
If you can't handle a throbbing cock or two I don't know what to tell ya

Skipping ahead "a little"(read: more than 300 pages ahead) just to bring some cool stuff.
One anon asked
> Do we leave a piece of our psyche on an object that other people can see? Does it mean we can lift rocks with our minds?

And the answer from the man himself is:
>Mrs. Sigg: I don't know what this means: "What we recognize in a man, we also stir in him."

>Prof. Jung: Well, it is a great truth that when you perceive something in a person, you also bring it out in him. When you see a certain quality in a person, it is a sort of intuition, and that is not an indifferent fact: it works upon him. When somebody has a bad intuition about you, you feel it without knowing it; you feel suppressed because that intuition is a fact which takes its way through the unconscious.
>We don't know how an intuition comes, but it always has to do with something in the unconscious; and since the unconscious is in you both, you also get a shot from it. It will most certainly come out in you, and it all depends upon the character of the intuition whether you are favorably or unfavorably impressed. If somebody has an intuition that you have a certain thought, you are most probably made to think that thought.
>Intuition seems to work through the sympathetic system, and being a half-unconscious function, intuitions also bring out an unconscious effect in the object of the intuition. In dealing with intuitives, you notice that they can intuit a thing in such a way that it is shot into your back bone, into your spinal cord, and you must admit that you thought it, though afterwards you will realize that the thought was surely not your own.

There some fancy examples later.

Part 2/3:

>There are very curious examples. For instance, certain salespeople read from your eyes what you apparently want; you buy the most amazing stuff and cannot understand afterwards why the devil you ever bought it, whoever put it into you! And Eastern sorcerers put things into you so that you naively step into their trap. A sorcerer tried that once with me and I stepped into the trap; he had such amazing intuition that he was able to twist a cell in my brain.

>The famous ropetrick is done in that way; it is a sort of projection. I heard a story about a sorcerer who worked the rope-trick in a garrison in India while all the officers, the whole mess, were gathered round. And when the thing was already in full swing, another man who had been delayed came to watch the performance. He stepped up to the circle of men who were all gazing into the air at the boy climbing the rope, but he saw nothing there.
>He only saw the boy standing beside the sorcerer and the rope lying on the ground, and he was just about to shout when the sorcerer caught him, saying, "Look at that man, he has no head!" And he looked and the man had no head, and then he was all in-and there was the rope and the boy climbing up it. The sorcerer saw of course that the man was not in the circle and that he had to put him on the spot, and he got him.
>Intuition does work like that in certain cases. You can observe very clearly that certain thoughts come into your head which afterwards you clearly feel have not been your own: you were infected by something.

Part 3/3:
>One calls it magic but it is simply an effect through the unconscious, coming from the fact that the three other functions-perception[sensation], thinking, and feeling-move as if in consciousness; but intuition makes a way through the deep unconscious where you are one with everybody.
>So when such a thing happens, everybody is stirred. If I move on my chair you are not disturbed, but if the soil upon which you sit is shaken, you feel an earthquake and are disturbed. Intuition is like a thing which goes through the floor and shakes everybody. This is one of the important sources of mental infections and there is no defence against it; you cannot suppress the effect, it will happen.
>The only thing you can do is to make up your mind as soon as possible whether this thought or effect or feeling is really your own. But if you leave things, as most people do-just let them go from a sort of moral laziness-you undergo an infection. It gets you by the neck.

As an INFP I'm finally starting to realize I find ENFPs hotter than any other type. What are ENFP X INFP relationships like?

>>84778235
That speaks about a fundamentally different thing than the question asked though.

Well, actually, the answer he gives is a firm "no."

>>84778677
I'd say the answer is more like "it's complicated because you can affect the unconscious of others so technically no, but it will be felt that way".

>Your Mbti
intp
>Do you think that things like red and hard exist only as labels used to describe and categorize objects?
The only things that exist in a determinate way are particular substances like a tree or a cow or a bit of aluminum. We can abstract out redness or hardness from particular things and when we use abstract words like this they should properly signify that hardness as a property of things we encounter but hardness as such is not a "thing" it's an abstraction over a property of things.
This is the standard aristotlean sort of realism
There are different forms of group categories though, I really like the terms intensional vs extensional predication it's essentialyl the distinction of if that group is divided by external characteristic (being red) or by an internal cause (having a human nature)
You can say a category is real like human being if all the members of that set are members of the set via the same cause (ie natural kinds)
External categories where things are a member of a set due to some external quality are not real as each of those external qualities may have different causes and actually be a different thing you abstract over
>Do you think things like red and hard exist in their own right, outside of the things they are used to describe?
already described above
>(Optional) Do you think people that see things differently from you are stupid?
no, I think they are evil
>(Secret) What is your sexual Orientation?
Sexual orientation is an extensional set, it's not real. Biological orientation as in a description of biological structure is the penis is structured to unit small gametes with the large gametes in a woman, that is the only orientation that exists. People who think they have a different sexual orientation generally are just people who fell for a social engineering thing or have had their ability to perceive reality destroyed through abuse or something (there is no single cause though as I said above, it's not a real category)

>>84778695
Yeah, I guess that is a better way to say it.

Instead of "leaving a part of your psyche on the object" it's more that the object in question evokes the same psychological state in people through some unconscious happenings.
Which is actually far more interesting than leaving a part of your psyche on an object if you interact with it.

>>84778849
Only somewhat related, but Part 3 there confirms something I thought myself about Intuition.
The other 3 functions operate *within context*, or "above the ground" but intuition detects the context/ground itself, and an intuitive can be both the one who points out what's the ground we are standing on in the very first place, or attempt to shift it entirely which would cause all the other functions to operate in a different context now.

>>84778989
You seem to be saying something that I would agree with, except I would phrase it a bit differently. It's mostly an intuitive image that's not so intellectualized. (And funny enough, I could be falling prey to the same psychological infection phenomenon Jung was mentioning).

But rather than a land it's more of a field, akin to an ocean. And this field transmits information through disturbances akin to waves or ripples. Everyone can perceive the ripples, but not everyone is aware of them. Some people are aware of the field, and some are aware of it in such a way they can influence it and consciously create disturbances that will affect the localized unconscious. That will shift the way other people interact with the physical world.

>>84779201
That works too.
Guess you can argue then that the Sensation type becomes the most able at neutralizing the ripples, they aren't even doing it on purpose, it just won't feel real enough and they might be compelled to point it out.

>>84770212
>Your Mbti
tinesife
>Do you think that things like red and hard exist only as labels used to describe and categorize objects?
see next
>Do you think things like red and hard exist in their own right, outside of the things they are used to describe?
they are abstractions, red exists being a specific wavelength of light, but hardness is entirely relative for which the arbiter is the human body
>(Optional) Do you think people that see things differently from you are stupid?
i am objectively correct in all things, if i expressed something that was wrong, i was in fact, not
>(Secret) What is your sexual Orientation?
anthro women and boi

Do you think colorblindness relates to low Se?

>>84779522
If you mean it literally as a physical condition, then no.
If you mean it as not personally having much differentiation in color tones, sure enough

So, as I was saying, futa isn't gay, it just can't be gay to want to only see futa on female hentai, it's the antithesis of gayness and makes it superstraight

Why do people get jealous and act aggressive towards others because of their personality type? Is it because you can't see the value in your own type? Please stop acting aggro towards some of us just because our type is shown favorable in media. I'm sure there's something special about you too.

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>>84779672
Large-scale typism is canon and the entire reason Psychological Types even exists in the first place, you are welcome.

>>84779734
incoherent post

>>84779672
There is no way anybody is jealous of anyones other retard degree when they are all equally retarded. the most media favorable is ENTP, and if someone wants to be favorable they will just larp as the entp. Only narcs assume others are jealous of their inherently nothingburger letter combo when in reality people just hate you, hey, thats SPECIAL, accept that.

>>84779854
MBTI isnt a drivers license or passport where someone else defines you for you. you can just sticky an ENFP label on yourself and no one will blink an eye. It is a self-screening, slap schizophrenia on there too, it will never mean anything in the end.

>>84779854
>the most media favorable is ENTP
Why's that, anyways? Also what kind of media?

>>84779968
Anime, predominantly. Gojo satoru figure cum altars, dazai with a rolodex of 1857646272 12-year old girls virginity cards. Same agenda in irl though, if you are a chad ENTP at least everyone wants sex with you, even your gay male rivals (because you are so charming and non-chalant)

>>84780017
i forget, KOKICHI, JAX, ALASTOR, MOTHERFUCKING-LUCIFER. I think almost every tumblr sexyman is an ENTP, atleast the two runner-ups in the tumblr sexy-man 2022 with sans (entp) and reigen (entp) coming second

wow so heartfag is the thread chad

>>84780017
>>84780040
>all male ENTPs
What happened to the girl ones

>>84780053
I feel he is an ESFP, OR ENFP rather. didnt he retake the test? anyways, togatanon was the ENTP thread bicycle

>>84779854
You're very own words defeat the argument you are attempting to make. "Only Narcs.." For you to immediately throw around accusations such as that suggests you may be one or some other kind of sociopathic unwell type. I do hope you can get yourself some help and treatment for your behavior.

>>84780065
>ESFP
lol

>>84780064
Oh uh theres that one um vampire one with white hair.. himiko.. oh REZE yeah
> For you to immediately throw around accusations such as that suggests you may be one or some other kind of sociopathic unwell type. I do hope you can get yourself some help and treatment for your behavior.

Ill just boomerang that one right back at cha

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>>84776162
>red and hard
My ruling on them is just a gut feeling, but if i had to invent some logic for it, i'd say that red requires something else to express it, while hardness is a property of medium. This is something we all understand implicitly, and it shows in our language, where when describing something that is both red and hard, such as my penis, we call it hard and red. Nominalism and Realism are both horseshit, and it's a bad question, so i'll not elaborate anymore than that.
>Pretty much, yeah.
It's a childish conception of stupid, as it should be, seeing as stupid is a childish word. Stupid to my mind evokes something very specific, like trying to play with an adult who doesn't understand the game, regardless of how good or bad at it they are. It's a special kind of out of touch, paired with a certain stubbornness, that doesn't really have anything to do with raw intelligence
>(Secret)
This is a much better Nominalism vs Realism question.

I'll be disappointed if nobody gives a shit about my astrology post. I thought somebody here would have something interesting to say to that, but if not, i'll regret having given up that information so freely.

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>>84780065
>ExFP
And I thought I had ways to go before calling myself anything resembling a feeloid.

>>84779672
>why do people get jealous
>something special about you too
i only ever heard this exact argument come from INFPS on PDB. And you know how the collective feels about infps

esfp is going a little far but enfp is very plausible

if he is an entp hed have some anomaly ennegram and little wings, like 2w3 or something else like a brown kid from the ghetto with sparkly blue eyes

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>>84780179
Maybe tritype helps here.

>>84780196
DDDEEEEEEWWWWWD D-DUH DUUUUUUUUDE you are not a fucking 7w8 ENTP NIG-

>>84780116
you really are too sexy

>>84780204
this is the most low effort self-hype post ever

>>84780202
Maybe not, but I got this back in 2022

>>84780226
Are you reporting your behavior based on online interactions of outdoorsy chemistry? is this a
>whatd i do if i saw personalityfag getting bullied
or
>whatd i do if i saw black on black hatecrime in the street

>>84780226
Was that a long time ago or something?

>>84780246
not on the MBTI threads lil bro the collective here has no concept of time, a shitpost centaur made two years ago is still being parried

>>84780239
Tend to not use online behavior as a baseline.

>>84780246
It's August 2022, almost 4 years ago.

>>84780262
Good to know 4chan also runs on the concept of relativity in time.

i FUCKING hate /mbti/ yo lets go

>>84780267
So did your personality significantly change in the last four years?

>>84780214
Too much samefagging itt.

>>84780280
That's a hard question, in general I tend to become more feely.

>>84780320
thinkers are sociopaths, upgrade to enfp

hi mbti, what color are your panties today?

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>>84780334
>he doesn't know
ExFP just means sociopath but who learned to act nice. And ExTP is the one who doesn't even bother pretending, unless they want to woo somebody.

>>84780354
bright pink

>>84780202
ENTPs can't be 7w8?

>>84780370
Cute!!! you can show them to us if you want :)

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>>84780419
It's a likely combo, but that's not what anon meant.
Also you can have any MBTI/ennea/other stuff combo, and "strict correlationists" can suck my flower tact. Both of 'em.

>curefag
>hinamari
>bridges
>occult
>magenta
>apricot

weaponized

I forgot how long of a day of 12 hours feels. Hopefully the rest of my week is comfy enough to recover.

Also the coffee man was shut. I'm still devastated.

Hey centy

>>84781146
Supp. I'm a hungry no amount of chicken breasts or dry roasted peanuts seems to be able to fix.

There's only one that can satiate my hunger. Where are you hiding

Anonzzle will be at the next gym shortly. I heard he is waiting on your request.

how come anonzzle is a boy?

What does the bible say about antidepressants

FUCKING HELL I CAN'T TAKE PRISON MUCH LONGER I'M GOING TO EXPLODE

wow i've been taking zinc supplements and I'm basically always horny, my balls feel full, and I cum huge loads

>>84781288
Thanks, I'll get back with you shortly. Check the elevators near door 6

I Can't take being chained any longer am gonnaArf Arf Arf Rrr Grrr RURURUR WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK

it's exactly that attitude why you need a (forced) keyholder

Ok who the fuck are you freak fishers

>>84781354
>>84781354
I'M CRAZY MAN, TOTAL NUTCASE
BEEN WALKING THESE STREETS FOR YEARS
I'VE SEEN REAL GANG STUFF
KEEPS ME UP AND NIGHT

Centy please check your new biscuits arrival on the escapades

>>84781362
Shut the fuck up Fatboy were talking metaphors no t your cringe gay shit no way

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>Three we brought with us,
>The fourth would not come.
>He was the right one
>Who thought for them all.

>When Goethe says that the fourth was the one "who thought for them all," we rather suspect that the fourth was Goethe's own thinking function.
>The Cabiri are, in fact, the mysterious creative powers, the gnomes who work under the earth, i.e., below the threshold of consciousness, in order to supply us with lucky ideas. As imps and hobgoblins, however, they also play all sorts of nasty tricks, keeping back names and dates that were "on the tip of the tongue," making us say the wrong thing, etc. They give an eye to everything that has not already been anticipated by the conscious mind and the functions at its disposal.
>As these functions can be used consciously only because they are adapted, it follows that the unconscious, autonomous function is not or cannot be used consciously because it is unadapted. The differentiated and differentiable functions are much easier to cope with, and, for understandable reasons, we prefer to leave the "inferior" function round the corner, or to repress it altogether, because it is such an awkward customer. And it is a fact that it has the strongest tendency to be infantile, banal, primitive, and archaic.

Jung is somehow worse than me seeing this 3/4 thing everywhere.
Well, it is everywhere to be fair. Reading the problem of functions as a small poem is pretty funny.

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curefag
so your the poster behind the OPs

No, that's one anon who is reading Psychological Types and got to one of the cool bits.
It's been years since I read actual PT now, I always look for stuff outside of it.

What type goes absolutely BATSHIT CRAZY from being put in solitary confinement?

Extraverted Feeling most likely.
Extraverted Sensation close second
Extraverted Thinking and Intuition will probably not be bothered too much if they can use the internet.

[42] As our reference to the doctrine of Platonic ideas
shows, we are dealing with a conflict that reaches very far
back in time. Certain envenomed remarks in Plato concerning
"grey-bearded schoolboys" and the "mentally
poverty-stricken" are
innuendos aimed at the adherents of two allied schools of
philosophy that were at odds with the Platonic spirit, these
being the Cynics and the Megarians. Antisthenes, the leader
of the former school, although by no means a stranger to the
Socratic ambiance and even a friend of Xenophon, was
nevertheless avowedly inimical to Plato's beautiful world of
ideas. He even wrote a pamphlet against Plato, in which he
scurrilously changed Plato's name to _____. _____ means
'boy' or 'man,' but under his sexual aspect, since _____
comes from ____, 'penis,' 'cock'; whereby Antisthenes,
through the time-honoured method of projection, delicately
suggests what cause he is defending against Plato. For
Origen, as we saw, this was also a prime cause, the very devil
whom he sought to lay low by means of self-castration, in
order to pass without hindrance into the richly furnished
world of ideas. Antisthenes, however, was a pre-Christian
pagan, and for him what the phallus has stood for from time
immemorial as the acknowledged symbol was of heartfelt
interest, namely the delights of the senses-not that he was
alone in this, for as we know it affected the whole Cynic
school, whose cry was "Back to Nature!" There were plenty
of reasons that might have thrust his concrete feeling and
sensation into the foreground; he was before everything a
proletarian, who made a virtue of his envy. He was no no
thoroughbred Greek. He was an outsider, and he taught
outside too, before the gates of Athens, where he flaunted his
proletarian behaviour, a model of Cynic philosophy.
Moreover, the whole school was composed of proletarians, or at least of people on the fringe, all of whom indulged in
corrosive criticism of the traditional values.

Oh boy, he's talking about cocks again, The Gr**k is all blanked out for your precious eyes.

Good ol' Greek shitposting.
Roman shitposting is better tho

So now of course Jung is mad that the based cynics were making fun of plato's hecking wholesome vision of perfect chairs by calling him gay basically? And he lashes out by saying they're poor and obsessed with their willies?

Sounds about right. This chapter is funnier than I remember

[43] After Antisthenes one of the most prominent members of the school was Diogenes, who conferred on himself the title of Kuuv, 'dog,' and whose tomb was adorned by a dog in Parian marble. Despite his warm love of man, for his whole nature was suffused with human understanding, he nonetheless pitilessly satirized everything that the men of his time held sacred. He ridiculed the horror that gripped the spectator in the theatre at the sight of Thyestes' repast, or the incestuous tragedy of Oedipus; anthropophagy was not so bad, since human flesh can claim no exceptional position among meats, and furthermore the mishap of an incestuous affair is not such a disaster after all, as the instructive example of our domestic animals makes plain to us. In many respects the Megarian school was akin to the Cynics. Was not Megara the unsuccessful rival of Athens? After a most promising start, when Megara rose to prominence through the founding of Byzantium and Hyblaeaic Megara in Sicily, internal squabbles broke out, after which Megara sickened and wasted away, and was in every respect outstripped by Athens. Loutish peasant wit was known in Athens as "Megarian jesting." This envy, which in the defeated is imbibed with the mother's milk, might explain not a little that is characteristic of Megarian philosophy. Like that of the Cynics, it was thoroughly nominalistic and utterly opposed to the realism of Plato's ideology.

Woo, Diogenes hype! 'Member Diogenes? Remember when he was cool? But goodness this is starting to feel a little too personal. He can't even be bothered to describe who any of these people are anymore he's too busy seething. Who hurt him?

*puff of cigar smoke in the distance*

Like he felt the need to describe transubstantiation earlier but expects us to just already know about the Megarian school? uhh

Anyway I'm too miserable and braindead to read or think right now so that's all the jungian analysis you're getting. I think I'll stick to subject matter closer to my mental capacity until I am able to sleep somehow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNtyGNipWA0

does jungian stuff have any word/phrase to describe people who just sorta autopilot through life for years & years & years?
like guys who do the same stuff every day, get drunk on the weekend, hang out with the same crowd, announce plans that they don't really have any intention to carry out, and then one day they wake up and 5 years have passed but they haven't changed/grown as a person

>>84782375
not mentioning any names?

>>84782387
i'm just describing how i spent ages 20-25 lol
but there's a book like this called a fan's notes by fred exley

I wish I could be depressed, but I'm not allowed. It's largely my own fault. Hoisted by my own petard.

https://youtube.com/shorts/z8FWwQS2oeo

>>84782447
Why are you posting such atrocious slop in my thread?

a sadness runs through jim

lilac used to whistle through the gap in her missing tooth while we were kissing

>>84782724
wifey material fr

Be nice to Lilac

>lilac teeth!
>woah dis not bad
>omg be nice to lilac

weve played these games before

>>84770212
Centaur was straight the whole time

>>84770212
>>Do you think things like red and hard exist in their own right, outside of the things they are used to describe?

https://youtu.be/j151ek2rYs0

>>84780065
>I feel he is an ESFP
lol explain

Why am I into ESFPs as an ISFP

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Alright folks settle down, we all like to have our fun here but lilac is still queen. She's the most beautiful woman on earth, she has a kind heart and a loving soul.

>centaur trying to win lilac back arc

Samael would have to give his blessing and I'm keeping to my notes like a religion. Defending someone you loved and will always isn't simpery. I regret the ways I acted out. I get too territorial. I've lost Anon privileges even if Cent took a step back so venting my manic rage in catty commentary was a mistake that I apologized for. I've already moved to a point of wishing him the best in future relationships when I didn't think I would ever be able to, and if he progresses the same, maybe it'll mean he has the worst things of all to say. I just don't want him to hate me for being around to see how much he may come to detest me!

Ohana means "toss his body in the trunk then downhill start that Grien Machin into a fucking lake" and I'm Bonnie/Clydefrauding with real tpeople offenders

"Gang gang" - Theo Von

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So! Happy pride Moon cylicalcyclist to all my fellow pansexxxOooooOOOOOO demigodsexuals, Apollyon and company!
>You can pvll some prettttyyyyy spooky synchoenicities, too, chief!

tfw lilac will never mark you with her piss and demand affirmations of ownership

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Older than my mama, younger in spirit than my pappy

Shaka shaka

>You approve of [saw me at the country club as a lil Princhessa and made sure no other Lilis drown't me], amirite guise?

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the real femcels (me) got used by centaur and

whatever little affection i had left just crumbled the second he ran off with the female austin powers

i love you so much anon who centaur used and abused and dumped for a crumb of pussy, i would never have treated you like that, but your fault for falling for a brit like are you fucking retarded

I'll gather up the pieces of your heart and puzzle them back together if you allow it.

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>>84783575
Damb, diddybluh got a sister I need to visit? I liked his hairy chest even tho he went and got banned from a waxing parlor by putting in the online scheduling note "make bussy look delicious" fuckingkekmao

>>84783575
who is the female austin powers?

does waxing make your bussy stay smooth for longer than depilatory cream? seems scarier for sure

>>84783588
Tantalizing dubs there, stranger.
I'd tell you things in that chat in confidence that could lose us the worl

Ny final message. Smonk it
And pou' two out for the Reeses Pieces

I won't apologize for giving narcs what they were barking up the wrong Asherah pole for

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>>84783595
i cant say i condone the other stuff but i can at least say you re not as hyped up as you claim to be

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>>84783609
They can smuggle anyman's cum in that shit smoke flower not battery acid or Babygiving!Nair stoopit

>>84783621
I don't claim shit, pardner
Believe everything you've heard about me. That's your prerogatIve

And you ain't seen me or talked to noone who seen me at the Freaknik when I'm FREE not being respectful to past and future suitwhores

>>84783626
will you wax my bussy for me so i don't have to use the battery acid uwu

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>>84783652
Nah but I knoe a gal, I'll hookchu upperz

I didn't trade secrets like fuckin' Finnick to be disrespected by little boys

>>84783668
No disrespect ma'am, but i'm a grown ass man

>Weed out the ones who're losing their religious cvlts REMstyle
Argot honours are highest. Go to college for "Networking" with "Pancake grandpas" with jit over ITThere

aww so cwose

>>84783668
you get nasty when your drunk