I'm 18 and a man. Whenever I like look in the mirror I see a woman's body with large breasts and wide hips and it MAKES me like so so mad. I hate that i like have a female voice i hate it so much. I wish i could get on testosterone and get top surgery but my parents would probably never allow me to. Sadly im stuck as a man in a female body
>>84777187They need to find a cure for body dysmorphia that doesn't involve self mutilation. This is clearly a deep rooted psychological issue
>>84777187Don't you ever feel like you're missing out down there? Stuck with this inferior genitalia, this hole, unable to really get anything done. I mean, what good is it besides being a receptacle? No penetration power, no real action. You're just left subject to being entered over and over.Imagine if you could actually use what you had. Penetrate when and how you wanted. Take control instead of always being the passive one. No more feeling inadequate compared. It'd be a whole new world for you, wouldn't it?
YWNBAM pooner . You aren't a man and you're just a delusional woman get off the ineret
You just hate being a woman. You've never experienced existence as a man. What makes you think you know what it means to be one?
>>84777187I'm a woman stuck in a male body. Whenever I look in the mirror I see a giant penis.
The sad part isn't the body dysmorphia, its that pooners are always complete bottoms.
XDDDD DAE LE SMOOTHCROTCH??? :DDDDD
>>84777187I can turn you into a man, but it's going to require you to ingest large quantities of my semen and gargle my balls every day.
>>84777187What's the situation on your ass? Is it plump? Flat? Bubbly?
>>84777187there are men with wide hips, massive tits and soft voices too
>>84777299It's fat unfortunately
>>84777310>men can have wide hips too!>men can have big tits too!>men can have soft voices too!>men can be short too!>men can have a small waist too!>men can have small hands and feet too!>men can lack facial hair too!>men can have a small skull too!>men can have narrow shoulders too!>men can lack an adam's apple too!Doesn't it get excessive at some point? Sure men have one or two of these but all of it at once?
trannies are so disturbing
>>84777201holy disguisting fetish posting
>>84777187>big tits>wide hips>fat assYou NEED to let me plap you
You should cut your balls and dick and call yourself Miss Anon. Idiot.
>>84777738>Doesn't it get excessive at some point?why?
>>84777187you should fuck me amazonian by doing the man's hip movements, as if you're mating pressing me but in reverse. you will then baby trap me and you can be a cool skater girl
>>84778183Because it piles up.
i wish i had a male body
>>84778156i wish i had balls and dick im STVCK with a female body i so so despise!!!!
>>84778343>>84778375Fembots, what's it like living life with those useless smoothcrotches of yours? Stuck with a gaping hole between your legs, nothing to penetrate with...how frustrating it must be, never knowing what it feels like to be in control, to dominate someone with your own dick. Just a gaping hole always ready to be filled xD
>>84777187I'm not gonna be mean to yousounds like it sucks anon
>>84778395yeah, being dickless is basically a disability and you shouldn't be mean to disabled people
>>84778395i wish i had a male body with male anatomy but unfortannetly testesoeroen isnt available in indonesia and i can't get top surgery. people see me as a tomboy irl despite me having a malebrain
>>84777187I'm 22 and I have been feeling like you since I was 14.Its too late too take HRT now.Do it before you turn 20 or just suffer forever like me.
>>84777187But you aren't actually a man. You've experienced trauma that left you powerless, and in your attempt to regain some control you've latched on to the idea you could "be" a man.What do you think a man is? Genuinely. You think you want something, but I doubt you really know what you are asking for
>>84777187>I'm 18 and a man.No, you aren't. Your body is not a problem, it's you. It's okay to be a woman. Choose to love yourself instead of hating yourself for not being something you never were.
>>84777187I'll let you hold my penis while I pee
>>84778575Listen to himIt's okay to be impotent and to only be able to get penetrated.To be the claimed, the invaded, the impregnated.It's OK to not have the capabilities to do both sides of penetration!
>>84778419>indonesiadon't you have any female contact sports there? idk just go around as if you were a man
>>84777197They have it's called deactivating your discord account
>>84777197This is why I'm 'transphobic'.I think transgender ideology just gives into dysphoria as if it's some unstoppable force that can't be overcome no matter what, which is completely stupid since the human mind is incredibly powerful. Even with different brain chemistry biologically, trans people act like dysphoria is completely immovable, and saying otherwise is akin to heresy since it would mean that all their self-pitying and self-martyrdom isn't necessary. At the end of the day dysphoria is just insecurity with ones own body and/or identity that gets so severe that it becomes a psychological medical issue (like any other obsession).I believe the universal solution to destroy dysphoria is to detach gender/sex from identity individually and as a society. treat your sex and gender as PURELY a physical descriptor, like eye color, or height. In an ideal world people completely discard gender norms, and act/dress as masculine, feminine, or androgynous as they want while still accepting and loving the sex they were born with. Cis Tomboys, Femboys, Crossdressers and androgynous people will always be incredibly based.
>>84778709I don't see why you want to make decisions for others
>>84778741It's less>LIVE THIS WAY OR ELSEI still use peoples pronouns even if I don't agree with it.it's more:>I think life would be a lot easier for people if they approached a problem from a different angle.
>>84778419>indonesiaoh you're a shitskin. unfortunate. if you were white I'd have sympathy
>>84778762You genuinely think trans people never think to themselves that their lives would be easier if they weren't trans?
>>84778869That's the problem. They aren't trans. Trans isn't a state of being, it's a mistaken belief. Your life wouldn't be better if you weren't trans, it would be exactly the same. Your life would be better if you'd stop pretending to be something you aren't.
>>84778442Wtf is HRT suppose to do for OP when they'll still be like 5'3 with a women's frame?
>>84778869>>84778913This isn't me you were replying to but the sentiment is kinda the same. transgender ideology is people giving into their insecurities instead of facing them head on. Trans people love to go on and on about how they can't stand their sex but they never address the root reasons why. Hand waving it away as 'dysphoria' instead of trying to figure out exactly what causes dysphoria in the first place and how to counteract it.
>>84778913When someone says I feel better after transitioning why don't you believe them?
>>84778917The younger you start, the better.If you take T in your early teens it can affect your frame.OP still have little time left. While if you take T in your 20s or later you're just a hairy woman...
>>84778939So do you think think trans people never think to themselves that their lives would be easier if they weren't trans?
>>84778957Because there's massive social pressure in the trans community to say that and instant ostracism if you say that transitioning didn't help. Plus they're all still obviously miserable after transitioning.
>>84778991I think 'trans' people are selling themselves snake oil. or at least going through so much unnecessary grief and pain. transitioning never truly addresses the disconnect between body and mind that exists within trans people, that friction still lives there even if they transition, a paradox in your mind that exists when your mental image of yourself does not match the physical world. It's a bandaid solution to a greater societal issue that can be addressed internally instead of with hormones, plastic surgery, and being at war with your own physical self.Loving the hand of cards you are dealt is a difficult battle, but it's one worth fighting. not to mention people actively reinforce the gender norma they wish to escape. Transgenderisim is the equivalent of asbestos or lead paint. At the time it seems like a great idea, but I have a feeling in 30 years we'll look back on this decade and wonder "what the fuck were we doing as a society"
>>84779072Have you considered that other people experience things differently from you? Like how me liking olives doesn't mean that you like olives too? Even if we're eating the exact same meal it's possible that to me it's bad but to you it's good. Have you ever thought of that?
>>84779087It's a yes or no question lol
>>84778983>If you take T in your early teensExactly, EARLY teens. By 18, your growth plates and development is done.
>>84779089>mmmm i love delicious battery acid, my face melting feels so validating>>i don't think you actually like that, you're just being performative>don't you know that people can like different things!?
>>84779087(cont) Like I said, I think people should dress and act however they want, but asserting themselves as another gender has literally no upsides if those gender roles didn't exist in the first place. (which they shouldn't). It's confusing metaphysically and leads to an even GREATER psychological dissonance than what you would have just living with dysphoria. It's sunk cost fallacy. cheered on by the echo chamber of other sad trans people who need more people to project themselves onto. Hurt people hurt people, misery loges company.
>>84779122You think it's like battery acid why?
>>84777187Gay thing to care about to be honest.>Nooo, I'm a man stuck in a woman's body.So what, who cares. Half of the planet is stuck in a woman's body. Seems better than being born with missing limbs.>But but, I need to express my identity to the worldApparently you do, your loss, no sympathy.
>>84779136You wrote that cont and still didn't answer the simple yes or no question
>>84778709You have very intelligent thoughts. I do not know much about gender theory specifically but from what I do know I think that for balance in the world there will always need to be masculinity in men and femininity in females
>>84779138Destructive and painful surgery that irreversably damages the subject without addressing the mental root cause of the issue. That's why people who get SRS either kill themselves or become surgery addicts chasing the next adjustment that'll finally make them comfortable in their body (spoiler: it won't)
>>84779179You know cisgender people get those same surgeries right?>painful surgeryAll surgeries are painful that's not an argument against them
>>84779096Oh I KNOW that most trans people wish they weren't trans. Learned helplessness, reinforced by thousands of others. >Everyone else says there's no other way! so it must mean that there's nothing else I can do! No better options exist!It's almost as bad as religious dogma at this point. Suggesting any other way to fight dysphoria besides transitioning labels you as a 'transphobe' and a bigot. It's sacrilege
>basedteen >pooner>IndonesianFish found in water
>>84779205So if they do think my life would be easier if I wasn't trans then they could just stop being trans. But if they don't stop being trans then doesn't that imply that they actually do gain some kind of benefit from being trans?
>>84779200>You know cisgender people get those same surgeries right?Cisgender people don't get their perfectly functional genitals mutilated to look like completely different genitals. Even the plastic surgeries cis people do get aren't a core part of the cis identity.
>>84778991>>84779151>>84779205>So do you think trans people never think to themselves that their lives would be easier if they weren't trans?No I don't. No, the answer is no. See my post I just posted. I feel bad for them. Trans people treat transitioning as a silver bullet for all their insecurities, when it's not. It's snake oil.
>>84779216So the surgeries cisgender people get aren't mutilation although it's the exact same surgery?>>84779218If they don't think their lives would be easier if they weren't trans, why would they ever stop being trans if they feel like their life is easier while being trans?
>>84779216>Cisgender people don't get their perfectly functional genitals mutilated to look like completely different genitals.*laughs in circumcision*
>>84779231>So the surgeries cisgender people get aren't mutilation although it's the exact same surgery?Cis people only get those surgeries when their genitals are already mutilated. No cis guy gets his functioning dick chopped off to get a mystery meat tube to fuck with, they only get that surgery when their cock is already burnt to shit or otherwise completely fucked. A root canal is a root canal but if you get one on a perfectly funtional tooth for no reason you're a retard.
>>84777187You are this way because you haven't found a nice guy to fuck you and make you feel like real lady.All mental illness from being terminally online.You are a woman and being mad over that does not change it. You will not change it by cutting your breasts off and you should accept it.It's better than being a man in 2026
>>84779263So the surgery itself isn't bad?
>>84779231>Why should I do the hard work of confronting my insecurities, when I could just push myself into a deep state of cognitive dissonance at odds with both my body and others ideas of me! Hmm I wonder.... It's almost like being trans is a sugar pill or snake oil like I'm suggesting. Pseudo pills make people feel slightly better, so why should they look for any other solutions!? That line of logic is close-minded and needlessly reductive.
>>84779263>>84779279This guy keeps responding to my replies for some reason, so you are arguing with two people at once OP tranny. Sorry, I should have namefigged since this guys takes are kinda stinky
>>84779294Yeah if they're already happy why should they bother with something else?
>>84779305It's ok I reply to most (You)s anyway
>>84779307>Why address the root issue when you can just keep applying bandaids? >Why should I care about starving people in africa when I have plenty of food? I mean sure, if you want to treat it like that you can. for every one perfect transition I assure you there are tons that are way more messy. I'm just saying that it doesn't address the root cause of dysphoria
how did this thread blow up? i just dysphoriaposted
>>84779359Why do you think it's a bandaid fix if they're not asking for a better fix?
hey its mike
>>84779364ftms are very controversial op anons are very starved for female attention but they hate trans people so ftms sorta shortcircuit them
>>84779406Why shortcircuit? You're both talking to a girl and telling trannies to 42 themselves in minecraft, it's more like a two-in-one deal.
>>84779307People are also happy on hard drugs, do you think doing hard drugs is good?
>>84779427>shortcircuit make a thread about being a mtf tranny see how many replies that gets
>>84779443Hard drugs are harmful but being trans isn't
>>84779378let me dumb it down for you. two options1: Confront the feelings of dysphoria and learn to accept your body and mind, yet still live however you want in-spite if it without muddying the waters. Finding a stable sense of self that exists outside of gender, decoupling gender from your identity as a person. Having that peace of mind, even if the journey is uncomfortable at first, confronting insecurities always is. 2: Lean into the dysphoria and gender norms and do whatever you can to appease it, let your insecurity guide your actions. If it doesn't match the image of yourself you have in your head, treat it like a poison, anything uncomfortable about yourself, mentally or physically must be suppressed or changed instead of confronted and accepted! I don't know, one sounds like the better option to me, even if it's not as easy or comfortable in the short run. also pic 95% unrelated, just found it in the dredges of my files and found it amusing.
>>84779563And you think all transgender people don't do option 1?
>>84779602yes. hard stop.They do option 2
>>84779683What if they don't do option 1 because option 2 is actually better?
>>84779690agree do disagree I guess.and what If I dropped an anvil on my toe? this conversation is going nowhere. I've said all I have to say. If going with the herd and reinforcing harmful gender norms is really what someone wants to do I can't stop them. I'm going to fuck off to some other threads. Like it said, trans people are like a religion, any criticism against modern gender theory is seen as a direct attack on their beliefs and they refuse to engage with anything else besides the people who echo chamber validate them, no matter how unhealthy it might be for the individual or society in the long run.
>>84779730Asbestos in every house keeps the fires at bay! okay cya.
>>84779730Trans people are the ones who are actually affected by the problem so if they say a solution works for them that holds more weight than you saying "well I just feel like my ideas are better let's agree to disagree teehee"
>>84779730>reinforcing harmful gender normsAlso how? If a cis woman wears a dress no one bats an eye but if a trans woman does all of a sudden it's an evil enforcement. It's not they're both just wearing what makes them comfortable
>>84779785>women wearing dresses because it's clothing they like>trans woman wearing a dress because it's what women are 'supposed to wear'and if you say otherwise you are coping. Obviously there is more nuance, but the overarching point stands.
>>84780018There are cis women who wear dresses because they feel like they are supposed to yet I never see anyone telling them to stop
>>84777187trans stuff is dangerous but nothing wrong with seeing the feminine inside yourself as long as you also see the masculine as well :)
Wanting to be a man in the 21st century is the dumbest thing you could possibly wish for.Just stfu and enjoy your easy mode, stupid bitch.
Look into feminism and unironically get some fucking hobbies. I wanted to poon out when I was in hs but I grew out of it. Get a life
What are your chromosomes? If you have no Y Chromosome, YWNBAM and you have a mental illness, not a physical need for alteration. If you have a Y Chromosome then receiving T if you're deficient is just healthcare...
>>84780503>What are your chromosomes?XYZ
>>84779785Many people think people who wear dresses are just in general acting stupid.Silly and impractical clothing. You almost never see it and many people in general have a low opinion of it.
>>84777187Yes, it sucks playing on easy mode. Nightmare mode is where its at
>>84777187An actual male would not be stupid enough to destroy their body to become a dickless manlet. The fact that you want to transition proves that you are a mentally ill female.
>>84781336Ok but a trans woman wearing a dress isn't reinforcing gender norms any more than a cis woman is
>>42523405I know you can suffer if you have to be your boy and you can't fight back or you can't do anything to protect yourself with any one of your girl so that men will protect you.
>>84781479It's so much safer that way. Picking up a woman's stick, living the life of woman. No male duties, no need to explain why you stay home every day.
>>84777187Hey, for what it's worth, if that OP pic is (You) then you're pretty cute! :^) *smooches (You)*
