I have to deal with a sobbing foid at my house because her husband refuses to pay rent and would instead rather play house with his 2nd wife in another country. CAN MEN JUST STOP BEING LUSTFUL BEASTS AND FUCKING DO SOMETHING WORTHWHILE IN THEIR LIVES?!? AND CAN WOMEN JUST DIVORCE THESE MOTHERFUCKERS INSTEAD OF WINING ABOUT IT!?! I JUST WANTED TO RELAX AND PLAY MY FUCKING VIDYA YOU STUPID PRICKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>84780675kick her out or make it suck for her to be there too so she finds somewhere else.
>>84780675my first ex destroyed our engagement because she wanted to try being a lesbian after going down a tumblr rabbithole and getting a lapdancemy most recent ex destroyed our engagement because she didn't want to work or contribute financially or do chores or have children
women want chad, chad and only chad, they are repulsed by other men which drives them to chad even harder no matter how much he cheats on them, beats them and refuses to help raise their kids
>>84780675shut up and fuck her already
>>84781060Too late I fucked her first she isnt white btw
>>84781102oh no you're bleaching a brownfoid how terrible for the species
>>84780719This just isn't true. You can be ugly and become likable. I did it as an ex-incel. Men are actually statistically slightly more likely, on average, to experience initial attraction to looks. Women value reliable and empathetic men over chad. Good women and good men, who are capable to having a healthy relationship, are just hard to find. The dating market is fucked. Don't use dating apps and learn to communicate. There's tons of resources for autists out there to learn from.Growing will do way more to help you than vilifying half of the population. Both sides are at-fault.
>>84781139>Women value reliable and empathetic men over chadyeah at age 30 when they're all dried up and looking for their betabuxx wallet provider cuck husband
>>84781139>Women value reliable and empathetic men over chad.And other hilarious jokes
>>84781199Nah, I've met some younger people on this wave; but, most men are super immature and unempathetic till take age too, so it makes sense. Everyone's, including normies', social skills are just fucked. You have to choose to take the high road and see the good in the world and the people around you (not the internet). No woman is going to get with a man who thinks in the terms you do, just like you wouldn't want a man-hating woman.
>>84781225Get off the internet and interact with people with genuine intentions, curiousity, openness, and kindness. It changes the game, even for an autist. I've experienced it. It can happen.
>>84781230>No woman is going to get with a man who thinks in the terms you doI think this way because I never had a gf, before or after Tinder. They've always been Chad Only. The apps just made it easier for them to act on it.
>>84781237I'm married and it's because I know how and when to act like chad. My marriage is happy because I know how and when to be reliable and empathetic, but knowing how to do the job well is only relevant if you know how to pass the interview.
>>84781259If you've never even been with a woman, how do you even know these things to be true? You're reading shit online and using it to validate a victim complex, rather than looking at yourself. Is there anything you could do to become more attractive to women? Or did you give up a long time ago? Finding LOVE is not easy for anyone. There is plenty of evidence that it is not "chad only." >>84781270>but knowing how to do the job well is only relevant if you know how to pass the interview This is true, but none of these men who want women are ever going to pass the interview if this is how they see the world. It's going to bleed out into every single interaction they have with women. It's grow or die. Learn empathy, grow thick skin, and learn to ignore evil misandrists or be alone forever. It's just how the world works. Also coming from an ex-incel, autistic married man.
>>84781342>If you've never even been with a woman, how do you even know these things to be true?Because I saw who they were with in high school, college, and adulthood. I'm just right about this is all. Sorry you're the betabuxx wallet provider cuck husband.>Is there anything you could do to become more attractive to women?limb lengthening surgery?>Or did you give up a long time ago?this>Finding LOVE is not easy for anyone.it is when you're tall and handsome, all you have to do is not pump and dump her
OP here. SHE STILL WONT FUCKING LEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVVVVEEEEEE
>>84781439It has never been more fucking over than it has been today. My one day off from being a fucking wage slave, RUINED. FUCKING RUINED.
>>84781369>i've seen who they're withMe too, and they're not all chads. Me and my sub 6 buddies all have wives and feel so much better about our lives, than when we were like you. We've discussed this transformation a lot. All hopes not lost. >limb lengthening surgery?Your personality is cooked, from what I've seen from this conversation. No one wants to be with someone who has such a bad victim complex. Maybe you could start there, lil buddy. Your personality is what I'm referring to. >not if you're chadThere aren't even that many chads and their gfs/wives still leave them if they treat them bad. Yes, there are cases where foids stay around for any number of reasons, but that's not even the norm.
>>84781475Cook that terminally online piece of shit. How dare he come into MY thread and fill it up with front page gender slop
>>84781475>Me and my sub 6 buddies all have wives and feel so much better about our livesyou're all getting cheated on lmao check your wife's other phone>no bro it's your personality and not the fact that they won't even look at you in the first placeretard>There aren't even that many chads and their gfs/wives still leave them if they treat them badRETARD
>>84781493your thread sucks, i had to do it>>84781439fuck her again retard
she picked the abusechad over some sensitive loyal sub5 looksmatchno refunds lol
>>84781523How can OP say anything about genderslop when he's literally suffering the consequences of another abusechad's actions irl at this very moment?
>>84781230>>84781139Reads like something from 2010.
>our loves are all better because we are married my heckin wife enjoys collectin funkopops and patting puppers and doggos oh yeah bpb got divorced and hos wofe cheated and destroyed him in the divorve courts and bob is suicidal renting a moldy shitty apsrtment but we say "chin up bob, plenry more fish in the see, just be empathetic and get back out there, you will find another wiferino"
>>84781270You got lucky fag it doesn't disprove the 1000 studies illustrating the reality of female attraction. This is where normies and low IQ people lose their mind just because exceptions exist they cannot see the trend. The reality is that countless people do the wrong strategy and still succeed out of dumb luck or vice versa. You threw anyway everything you knew to be fact and flew to the other extreme simply because you happened to experience some luck the mark of a true NPC. The same kind of fags who would shill for millionaires and capitalism and how everyone can make it and there's nothing wrong with it it's all awwwright if they won the lottery, soulless and opportunistic all of you. There's no point in taking people like you seriously because if your wife divorced you and cheated on you with chad than you would be back here in a week.
>>84781560You are just fantasizing and know nothing about me, my friends, or my wife. None of this is relevant to me or what I'm saying at all. Quit being a pussy.I used to be just like you. I used to romanticize my misery and blame everyone else for my hardships. It did me absolutely no good. It's okay to look at everything that's happened to you and to mourn it, but you're just hurting yourself by letting it color your worldview. You will project these beliefs onto everyone you know and will lose real opportunities because of it. You can choose to embrace negativity, and your life will be negative. If you choose to focus on the positives, you can deal with the negatives much better and feel happier. This philosophy you're so infatuated with is ruining your life. It feels good to not have to take responsibility for anything. It feels good to not have to grow. A life worth lived takes growing and growing is painful and takes massive mental efforts. Grow or die.
>>84781594Can you link these to me? Are there any competing studies?
>>84781615Lol i am not romanticizing this shit i am seeing it for what it is. Already seen plenty of guys brutally destroyed by divorce. Permanently banned from seeong their kids except for a tiny amount of time. Im not embracing negativity dude i am seeing that the system is sick, twisted, and set up to destroy men. Take your tony robbins think positive bullshit elsewhete
>>84781615Are you a muslim? What do you think of the increase of sharia law increase in the west?
>>84781654Incel-like spaces 100% romanticize being miserable. Literally saw a post today about someone was sad that have a crush and how they're not a truecel. This thinking is rampant. A simple problem holding down relationships, whether it be being unable to communicate, unable to empathize, or choosing the wrong person to give your love to ends up becoming people's whole personality. It's so bad that people lash out at you for figuring things out. Just because bad things happen doesn't mean that is the standard or should be expected or should color someone's entire worldview. Plenty of bad things can happen every single day. Your friends or family could betray you, too. I know it seems stupid, but it is literally the only way. You can see both the positives and negatives and learn to balance your emotional response around them. It takes confronting the ego and the shadow. It takes truly digging into yourself and finding out how to work through the things that led you to those beliefs in the first place. It takes learning emotional regulation, which is difficult but not impossible for us autists. It's not bullshit. Was literally in your shoes.
>>84781684>Are you a muslim?No, I have my own relationship with "God," outside of religions. Originally Christian. >increase of Sharia Law in the WestNot a fan, no. I think there are peaceful forms of Islamic religion, but find a lot of it incompatible with the Western way of life.
>>84781725We dont see eye to eye and never willI have been in spaces where we talk all about ego, shadow work, EI, ER, process work, yada yadaA third of thode guys all had their loves destroyed by divorceWomen walked away with house, kids, alimony etc etcThe guys were still trying to "hold space" for women and the "natural chaos" of women lolThey read all the David deida shitThey went to all the new age events, healing for women, womens lib from patriarchy blah blah blahAnywayI refuse to participate in that silly game and that silly, sick, and twisted systemI also watched a lot of boss babe feminist new age 'godesses' who claimed they had done all the shadow work, done all the ego transmuting processes, had done all plant medicine etc etc, and at mid thirties many of them were single lol. They then all did the "new age to jesus" thing and started demanding "strong traditional, masculine godly men who are going to protect, provide, and lead"AhahahahahahahahahahaAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA Have a good day dude
>>84781624https://looksmax.org/threads/personality-theory-destroyed.65213/https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_BlackpillI'm not going to go into the conclusions but basically looks and physical attraction is everything there is no evidence personality plays a significant role in attraction and the small role it does play the TDLR is that traits like confidence and assertiveness that women always claim to like are perceived as arrogance and aggression if you're not physically attractive.dark traid abusechad > autistic mute chad >>>>>>>>>> normal 'nice guy' incel > abusive incel obviously this isn't just these 4 cases but I'm trying to give you the best idea of how the 3D graph of female attraction works in a gradient but tdlr looks matter more than everything else combined if there's nothing else to take away.Also women caring about looks or being more varied in preference is also a fat myth in general physicial attraction is not decisive when it comes to attraction in women and women agree that the same people are attractive more than men.If there are studies with the opposite conclusions I'd like to see them but they don't exist because they've been doing this shit since the 70s and all points to the same conclusion.
>>84781832Many men deny that women can act with nefarious intentions. Many men deny that women can enter into marriage whilst having zero genuine attraction towards the husband. Many men see marriage as the goal and thus think if a woman marries them then they have succeeded as a man. These men are in denial that women can marry a man and have zero sexual attraction to him and the reason for marriage is for lifestyle and benefits she will receive not because she is turned on by him attracted to him, and in love with him.
>>84780710Have you considered asking out women who have natural hair color instead of colored hair?
>she decided to nap on my couchIts truly over. So so so fucking over.
>>84781905Rape her when she falls asleep
>>84781905Put a blanket on her when she falls asleep and then coom her favourite meal
>>84781832In initial attraction, yes, studies generally showed that the only reliable predictor of romantic interest was how attractive a person's date was. But this is just INITAL ATTRACTION, like speed dating or now, dating apps. This applies to both men and women.Initial attraction is only part of the game and becomes much more irrelevant over time. Studies show that the longer a relationship lasts, the less important physical attraction becomes.You're more likely find a relationship as an uggo, if you make yourself someone a woman wants to be around for an extended period of time. Yes, more attractive people get the privilege of being perceived as those things initially, but attraction is not a static thing. It can move and change over time, in either direction.
>>84781991Yes you're right but you're missing the point that's why incels exist enmasse now to use a job search resume sub 7 men aren't even getting jobs and having their resumes discarded whilst having a shit personality will make you hard to keep jobs.Initial attraction literally is the most important thing if a girl is attracted to you speaking as a 7/10 guy she won't make it hard for you at all and the only way you can fuck it up completely is by being a total autist or abusive it's fucking heartbreaking the amount of gaslighting sub 7 men are subjected no your personality isn't the problem no it's not confidence or ""bad vibes"" its not supposed to be hard at all, god forbid men want women who love them back instead of women who see it as a privilege and a compromise just to let you love them.Yes looks aren't everything there are 10/10s who still can't keep relationships for being shitty people but the truth is that most of the 70% of perma single men under 30 don't have anything wrong with them they're not entitled, misogynistic, lazy etc and if they all became attractive they would easily stop bring incels.
>>84781991Like finding and working a job initial attraction is literally the most important thing and the rest is piss easy in comparison to the point where I would say it basically is the game.
>>84781991>You're more likely find a relationship as an uggo, if you make yourself someone a woman wants to be around for an extended period of time.Complete lie yes attraction fades but women don't start being attracted to their uggo friends that's been disproved forever this is why I hate bluepillers your advice is literally self sabotage a great way to stay a friendzone incel forever you're so focused on selling a narrative where women's preferences are moral and not the completely pitiless hypergamic thing it is that you'd literally just give horrible advice. Women don't catch feelings for their ugly friends just because he has confidence or assertiveness or is funny or whatever which btw in the studies I linked are perceived negatively in unattractive men.
>>84782056Looks also matter outside of intimate relationships. More attractive people have more opportunities for wealth creation, fame, abd such. They literally are treated better lol. Im not super ugly but if i mention what i just wrote people call me blackpilled jist because i stated reality
>>84782129Because normies love just world hypothesis no one has the courage for seeing the world as the vain narcissistic thing it is. Bluepillers are not to be taken seriously.
>>84780675I am sorry your day off work got ruined by abusechad and his Stacey, OP. Truly a tragedy.
>>84781905hope she pisses herself in her sleep and ruins your couch
>>84782112Nothing about what I said is about it being moral or not. It's reality. And I'd like to actual evidence of that. Real love is hard and requires failing and adapting till you achieve. That's just life. Grow or die. And yes, women do catch feelings for the guy that's a little ugly. It happens so often that it's a trope for the guy to be uglier than the woman. You all give up and convince other heartbroken men to fall into your vicious cycle that ends nowhere. The philosophy behind this sort of thing is not beneficial to anyone and there are alternatives. I'm a married ex-incel, so I'm not replying to the yammering making assumptions about me. Inceldom is just one way to view the world. There are other ways to piece together the same evidence it uses to support itself. Why choose the less productive and toxic version?
>>84782136Yeah it is frustratingHow they downplay the importance of attraction and being literally physically attractive as a manHell, there was a huge post on a woman-only subreddit recebtly where women were all saying how most men are unnattractive and they dont put enough effort in to be attractive Many men still think it is 1948 in the midwest rural town and you can jist wear blue jeans and a cotton t shirt and be fat as fuck drinkomg beer and smoking cigs and chewing straw and women will like you lmfao
>>84782176>And I'd like to actual evidence of that. Real love is hard and requires failing and adapting till you achieve. That's just life. Grow or die.Incels aren't getting anywhere your completely missing the point. They aren't in relationship and making sacrifices they aren't even allowed to. And the friendzone is a meme I don't even want to talk about it yes I'm sure it happens but extremely extremely rarely might as wise rely on a interviewer in a job changing their mind because they feel guilty and it overwhelming happens to attractive people.And no my point isn't that incels give up my wish for them is that 1. they free themselves from gaslighting and the malicious feminist narrative that the reason that 70% of men under 30 are alone whist only 30% of women are because of some massive drop in the quality of men or because of misogyny when it reality it really just is that female attraction standards have skyrocketed to the moon because there's less pressure from society for them to be not alone than ever and social media means none of them means what normal/mediocre men looks like anymore. I want these people to realize there's nothing wrong with them and 2. encourage them to seek out looksmaxxing and normalize them getting plastic surgery or make-up or the like which would actually help them instead of them endlessly banging their head against a wall with shit like 'muh personality'. No, it's not hopeless you can improve your looks but it's import to understand what the problem actually is instead of encouraging them to bounce around like a piece of dust until they settle into the next abusive or betabuxx relationship out of desperation. And men should be allowed to complain about these things without shame or gaslighting from the likes of (You).
>>84782230couldn't have said it better myself, fellow virgin-kun
>>84781594>You threw anyway everything you knew to be fact and flew to the other extreme simply because you happened to experience some luck the mark of a true NPC.Wow you have really bad reading comprehension.
>>84782230Incels are relegating themselves to a realm of failure due to the ideology, itself. It isn't just venting that incels are doing nowadays (femcels/misandrists too), it's genderwars and reinforcing negative views against each other. You can beat the odds. Some people will fail, but not all. If you choose to go ahead and lump yourself in with the undesirables in this situation, then that's where you will remain.Statistics show a reflection of reality, but that isn't a mirror to you or your life, personally. I can understand how the advice for all of this kind of thing is annoying and seems cold. I'm trying to give actionable advice and advocating against the nihilistic, anti-human sentiment that incel communities promote. It is accepting a fate that was bestowed to you by someone other than yourself. There are people profiting heavily from what is going on in the dating scene and from there being a cross-gender socialization problem. A lot of these ideologies have been infiltrated. I end up having to advocate for women, generally, because incels do not seem to recognize that they are humans. They act like there is a gigantic IQ gap between the sexes. They can't empathize with them, so they can't understand them, then they ridicule the woman for 'being crazy,' while the man is often 'being crazy,' himself, in the same regard.The space is specifically anti-women, when women aren't the actual problem. I get accused of having anti-men takes for even expressing the other side. I think both are struggling immensely - with different problems, of course. But everyone, including normies, are caught up in all of this and impacting significantly. There is a difference in venting frustration versus toxic complaining and needless negativity.I didn't say they should bounce around. I am encouraging people to avoid misandrists and bad women. They know what to look out for. But, also to work on liking yourself, first. I am a strong proponent of individuation.
>>84781811I find it to be helpful and generally keep what I'm doing to myself. I don't go to retreats. I just read a lot (specifically Jung) and I just find the systems themselves helpful. I find those hippie cult freaks weird. I am not enlightened and neither are they. People do indeed use this type of thing to feel superior to other people. I do not feel superior to you, it is just like arguing with my past self. I wish I would have never gotten as deep as I did. You all keep making wrong assumptions about me instead of actually engaging with what I'm saying.
>>84782902i will consider it a win if even one incel sees my posts and decides to improve themselves and go full dread-game on women until they lose their sex drive. that is how we win.
>>84781885both had normal hair color
>>84781991>initiallyif you're not perceived as attractive, you won't even get a first date much less subsequent ones
>>84782176>You all give up can't give up what never began>and convince other heartbroken menthey don't need convincing. it never began for them eithrt
