>>84780711
i'm a man and i wish i would be pursued and pampered for once in my life. all i want is a taste. it must be so nice.
thanklessly carrying all the burdens is exhausting and demoralizing

>>84780722
Would you like to be on the left in pic related if the right was a woman (female)? Just curious.

>>84780711
yes and no
there are some obvious compromises with being pursued like the other party feeling you owe them shit

>>84780711
Both, lets take turns lmao

>>84780728
yeah it seems fun
>>84780741
this anon has the right idea

>>84780711
if women weren't evil, i'd rather the former. unfortunately they are, so i default to the latter.

>>84780711
Being loved unconditionally sounds like but it's probably not possible as a guy and I get incredibly anxious anyways in my ideal relationship I would like her to be dependent on me for everything while I need absolutely nothing from her I want to be able to sell her the chains that bind her to me and get a firm grip on it I have sexual fantasies about Yandere girls being crazy for me but I don't think my insecurities could ever allow me to be just a lazy bum doing nothing I never feel like I'm worthy or enough unless I'm constantly doing things for them that proves I'm worthy and to be honest I hate being dependent on others it makes me anxious knowing they can disappear and fuck me over at any time so I'd rather be the one who is being depended on even if it means doing all the work

>>84780860
Women aren't loved unconditionally.
Women are loved for having pussy and tits and being fuckholes for their boyfriens or husbands or for providing company or giving birth to children.

If men loved women "without conditions" then men could also fuck and date other men. But men have the conditions of femininity for women, in varying degrees.

>>84780893
>Women are loved for having pussy and tits
Yes desu being loved 'unconditionally' is a meme there's always a condition like the condition that one won't cheat on you, or one won't become a drug addict etc but women are generally sought out for immutable traits like yeah as you said by virtue of their gender most of the conditions for them being unloved have to with not fucking up whilst guys have to constantly succeed, earn money, be better than competition etc.
>and being fuckholes for their boyfriens or husbands or for providing company or giving birth to children.
Wrong but okay a ton of guys in this world don't want children and many would dream having a gf without such responsibilities
>If men loved women "without conditions" then men could also fuck and date other men. But men have the conditions of femininity for women, in varying degrees.
Wtf are you talking about? If men loved women unconditionally than they would also be gay? The only condition is that they're female as I explained anyways men are loved conditionally for things they need to constantly prove women are loved ''conditionally' for immutable things like being born female

>>84780711
As a man, I like being the dominant one in the relationship most of the time, but there's something really hot about the idea of occasionally having my wife/gf grab me by the collar, drag me back to the bedroom, and use me as a sex toy. A woman lusting after my dick as she uses me as a living dildo or wrapping her thighs around my head and forcing me to eat her out until she's had her fill of cumming would be amazing.
It would feel really nice to be that strongly sexually desired.

>>84780711
The desired and pursued 1000000%

>>84780950
How is it wrong? I said OR not and. If a man has no conditions of "womanhood" to a woman (either in her having a female body, sex, children, any of these things) he might as well date or fuck other men.

> ''conditionally' for immutable things like being born female
Most men need their women to perform femininity to some degree. They don't just love a walking hole. The women endure being women with the hormonal crap, get fucked, give birth and even if they don't give birth MOST WOMEN in relationships with MEN still work and contribute.

the latter for most of it, but as a general rule I don't really pursue women. if she wants me to, she has to show some form of initiative, or be obviously interested/receptive. I don't like women who are afraid to show interest or are so egotistical that they think I'll be interested for no reason and get disappointed when I'm not. a lot of women want to be pursued but don't take up their own role in the dance. there has to be magnetism on both ends, that's part of the magic of the whole thing but most women have forgotten this.

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>>84780711
The former in the beginning.
Id like to feel calued and desired, it would most definitely make me more secure.
But once I am comfortable
It would be the latter and the former combined.

>>84781011
>How is it wrong? I said OR not and. If a man has no conditions of "womanhood" to a woman (either in her having a female body, sex, children, any of these things) he might as well date or fuck other men.
You're a fucking retard is what I said most men love **woman** unconditionally not that they love everyone unconditionally you're just being pedantic and the reason is because that's what we're trained to do and we're seen as disposable, worthless meatsacks and deviants to be gassed and send to war and that there's something deeply wrong with us if we don't have women so yes

>>84781061
Men love women with a lot of conditions. Having a female body and performing the female role are conditions. Plus, most women dating or marrying men have to work full-time in 2026 and contribute financially btw.

Hope this helps!

>>84781086
I guess that is true. Maybe we should just say fuck it and admit that each person has their own difficulties and challenges and stop with this whole hate cycle.
I'm so tired of hating people that barely did anything to me in the first place, I just want someone to actually be attracted to me for once.

But eh, a man can dream.

>>84780711
I would like them to be upfront because I'm "signs"-dyslexic

>>84781086
>Having a female body
Yes
>and performing the female role
No not since the advent of feminism you can do whatever you want a girlboss or a mentally ill BPD whore or dominant in 2026 and still be loved by someone
>Plus, most women dating or marrying men have to work full-time in 2026 and contribute financially btw
This is the bare minium for men and women but men need to earn more, this required is far more stringent for men than women and arguably what you're saying isn't even true someone wanting to be a sugar baby for a rich man can still get them albeit more difficulty whilst men are generally expected to earn more than their spouses

id probably try to do both based on her menstrual cycle

>>84780711
Pampered sounds nice, Im better at nursing people back to health and cooking anyway, no i dont want to troon

>>84780711
I want to be the one that gets their head caved in with a rock

>>84780711
I'm a married man and I'm fine with either one. I do like when my wife is going through a hornier time like ovulation and is very direct about what she likes about me or what she wants. There is something satisfying about being used like that