>>84805198
Estrogen makes them weak and retarded, thus easier to rape. It makes them like being raped, thus easier to rape. The women who were easier to rape got impregnated more, and thus the human race continued in that way, so our gene pool preferred female genes that were easy to rape and liked being raped.

Is this hard for some of you to figure out?

incels think any form of confidence is being a douchebag, it isn't. We like confident men, maybe a little cocky but terribly so. Mostly we like guys who can back up their words, don't talk big and then coward out when the time comes.

>>84805198
Why do men also prefer douchebags? Look at the men who get picked as leaders by other men, it's always some abusechad, never an awkward and quiet nice guy.

>>84805236
>incels think any form of confidence is being a douchebag, it isn't.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1474704915613909
https://akjournals.com/view/journals/2050/14/1/article-p1.xml

Study shows that men who commit violence against women at a rate of 18x that of non-violent men are 4x more likely to be fathers, effectively showing that violence has a positive impact factor of 72.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/11470503_Males_on_the_life-course-persistent_and_adolescence-limited_antisocial_pathways_Follow-up_at_age_26_years

Top 10% of antisocial men commit 62% of all violence against women yet are also responsible for 27% of all babies fathered.

http://archive.is/e6p19

Unempathethic, narcissistic criminals are one of womens first sexual choices.

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/9c55/a8cae3c8a5d238002a261fec643f767d1126.pdf

In a large forensic hospital, 39% of psychopathic patients had a consensual sexual relationship with female staff members (Gabon et al., 1995)
The malingerers were significantly more likely to have a history of murder or rape, carry a diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder or sexual sadism, and produce greater PCL-R factor 1, factor 2, and total scores than insanity acquittees who did not malinger. The malingerers were also significantly more likely to be verbally or physically assaultive, require specialized treatment plans to control their aggression, have sexual relations with female staff.

>>84805198
The evil you know is better than the evil you don't.

>>84805198
It's not true

It's more shit men deluding themselves into thinking they're not douchebags than anything else. Men are shit.

>>84805342
young teenage girls get taken advantage of by those type of boys. It happens, they all wise up and try to tell the next generation of young girls not to fall for it.

>>84805342
This doesn't take into account how charming and sly these types of men are. They have no problem lying or hiding their true selves. They will figure out what a woman likes and pretend to be it, then flip on the woman when she is trapped.

I already posted about this in the thread about why they want tall men. The part of them that wants to fuck is lizard brain. Lizard brain not want to get eaten by fucking lion on African plains. Maybe big daddy mate protect (tall). But then again, maybe loud, mean scary mate protect (douche).
Everything is either if their monkey brain thinks you could chase off a wild cat or if you're able to hunt enough warthogs or find enough bananas (provider, hustler) for her monkey not to starve.

>>84805236
>Mostly we like guys who can back up their words, don't talk big and then coward out when the time comes.
How the hell would you know that for every men you look at after 30s? Are your moids getting into fights all the time? Just be honest tall and confident = fine, short and confident = cocky even if in reality the short guy has been in more fights than he can count

>>84805370
The overwhelming majority of ASPD types are NOT "charming and sly", in fact people who are prone to aggression and manipulation are statistically dumber and have thinner prefrontal cortices. The cold calculating villain is a fictional trope, his real life counterpart is just an impulsive thug with a million obvious red flags who shouts at his girlfriend in public.

>>84805198
i don't think this guy i (secretly) like is a douchebag even if he manages to give me "i can fix him" feels and seems like a le bad boy. i've never seen him be mean to anyone or myself. he is very thoughtful/kind actually even if he doesn't seem like it on a first glance, he always notices if something is up and tries to help. and he seems to always help his friends or anyone really without anyone having to even ask. but at the same time he is def a silent strong type .

>>84805430
The short guy is much more likely to have a napoleon complex and gotten himself into his fights because his fuse is short.

>>84805198
I'm not a femanon but the answer is that women don't prefer douchebags being dark triad or whatever is worthless if you're a bald indian janitor. The aggregate foid attraction gradient goes like this:
dark triad chad > shy autistic mutism chad >>>> normal/nice guy sub 7 > dark triad incel

Women are just emotionally dishonest

>>84805440
they tend to mature quicker, so some 12-13 year old when normal boys are still into pokemon and roblox the ASPD types are doing drugs, getting into fights and actively asking the girls out. They look more grown up and mature so girls fall for it.

>>84805455
Why the hell would I want to get into fights when I'm more likely to get fucked up? Women making shit up as usual just admit you want a tall guy who makes you feel safe and that's more important than being more safe, if you really cared about that you would get a firearms permit.

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>>84805367
Adult women are also attracted to sociopathic and violent men.
>>84805370
Women pride themselves on having intuition, they can guess if a man watches anime (ick) or has autism (ick) and yet they cannot detect if he is a violent abuser? Weird.

>>84805460
But why are women more attracted to these "mature" abusive men in the first place?

>>84805469
SOME women are attracted to men like that, the ones that never grew out of their 13 year old desires. They just happen to be quite vocal.

>>84805480
No amount of cope will save you from the abusechad.

>>84805477
Hormones I guess, I don't know. I never was. inb4 ywnbaw I am a 100% biological female.

>>84805510
Were any of them ugly?

>>84805440
being good at manipulation is just another type of intelligence.
they get girls because they ARE charming, and sometimes attractive. it's not the same charming as a good guy, but i think they have a hard time telling them apart. dark triad men are genuinely are good at manipulation. they will lie just to get pussy and feel no remorse.
a lot of the reason that women fall for the types of men they do, is because their fathers treated them poorly. unless interrupted, usually by therapy, women will stay trapped in bad relationships time and time again, if their father was not a good man. the more reinforcing relationships they have like this, the harder it is to choose better.
the body/heart will choose a familiar hell over something good and new. it's just psychology.
then, there is arousal, on the other hand. excitement, fear, and horniness go together. women have their own version of "thinking with their dick," and that is where the bad boy stuff comes in. this happens, but isn't indicative of women as a whole.

>>84805510
Most men would rather prefer that their girlfriend plays roblox and pokemon than do drugs so I was just asking why it isn't the same for women.

>>84805457
Women in civilizations in states of chaos or disorder gravitate more towards ooga-booga brained shit like bravado, violence, and the "bad boy"/douche because that stuff has prevailed in their environment. Ths criminal elements are winning there. Yes, there's a feedback loop and that stuff prevails because their women like and encourage it, but there really is a difference between the first world and the first world.
You won't see "soft boy" aesthetics or the desire for some emo femboy twink prevailing in the third world in the same way you'd see it in South Korea or Japan or parts of the West. Likewise, the sort of ooga-booga warlord peacocking that would work in some third world shithole actually comes across as too much or a turnoff in more developed countries.
You can't look at it all through the same lens. Rasheed in Somalia isn't even playing in the same fucking lobby as Kyle or Chosuke.

>>84805466
NTA.
But, you're not thinking about this from an evolutionary perspective, so you're failing to see the point.
Also, your gun can be taken from you if you're weaker/slower.
Men are more likely to be physically capable in this department and women generally have less experience with firearms overall, as it is seen as a male sport.

>>84805257
women make up half of the voterbase

>>84805543
>But, you're not thinking about this from an evolutionary perspective
Yeah obviously its more about women wanting to feel safe rather than actual probabilistic safety which is barely a concern for women outside of abusive relationships and households anyways
>>84805543
>Also, your gun can be taken from you if you're weaker/slower.
I wouldn't count on it.

>>84805550
NTA but doesn't matter. What matters is that they make up the *majority* of consumer spending. All the cultural bullshit they critique is stuff hand-picked or hand-crafted to appeal to them as consumers.

>>84805550
Now look at any male group. Or, if you insist on electoral politics, find some friendly, nerdy shy guy politician whose voters are mostly men.

>>84805575
Why don't you respond to OPs question first?

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idk if the guy i have a crush on is a douchebag. he is lowkey extremely nice. but he's also too cool for me, so i feel like he's out of my league, which is why i try to pretend i don't find him attractive at all.

>>84805198
>why do women prefer douchebags? can any femanon answer?
I don't. I think men actually like bitchy women.

>>84805605
Women like abusechads for the same reason that men do, there's your answer.

>>84805198
maybe some retards but all women seem to like dudes who dont fold under their gay shit tests and keep them in line somewhat. I think they subconsciously do stuff to test a mans ability to frame check them because if they have kids they need to know he wont flip out at them but rather be collected and check them. Basically you gotta check yo bitch from time to time or else they think youre a fag but some autists confuse this with being a douche, its being a bit ballsy, bullying her lovingly, being cocky but not too much.

>>84805620
>I think men actually like bitchy women.
http://www.newsweek.com/study-finds-men-nice-women-not-other-way-around-261269
https://www.spring.org.uk/2017/12/quality-women-more-attractive.php?fbclid=IwAR1yog0Vb4pCM56vmkek-TBo2ddYltYFb4Wpk-IeCy6h2A9drYbthqCzHXE
Science says it's otherwise.

>>84805606
>which is why i try to pretend i don't find him attractive at all.
Why do women do this kind of bullshit?
What if you actually do get into a relationship and lose attraction for him?

Also I want to state above all women like physically attractive men half the times they call people abusive or violent or whatever they're just making shit up because women can never amicable break up with attractive people they are too immature for that they all have to retroactively cope that he was abusive or some shit 95% of the women telling stories of their abusive bfs they were probably just normal people who lost their shit once.

>>84805653
You sound cucked lmao.

>>84805669
you can demand normie women to flirt or ask out men that's fine, but i have literally no friends, and i mean genuinely no friends not even a single one. i have no social skills to speak of. if i had friends, i'd likely have the social courage to ask a guy out. but yeah this is just a group my (male) cousin invites me along to sometimes, im not friends with any of them except my cousin and idk why i get invited but bc i'm lonely i'll always say yes. and i like one of them, but as i said i think he's too cool for someone like me. he also has a lot of social status ngl, it'd be too much pressure to try to date someone like that.

and idk anon sounds like you're into actual mean girls, and assume everyone else is like you too. why else would you be so angry about who women do or don't break up with

>>84805198
no they can't, they will never ever admit this.
>muh society
>muh snakes
>muh trauma
>muh muh muh muh
literally any excuse possible when its very clear how persistently true this is regardless of age, life, location, etc. it is just really inconvenient to ever admit to it. the science behind this shows the truth, even though its self evident regardless of statistics.

I was in the navy for most of my life and knew tons of manlets. Every single one of them that acted like a LOUD douchebag Napoleon complex gym ape got MAD pussy, it was fucking insane. Women would talk shit to them, they wouldn't care, they were like yappy little bulldogs and somehow women flocked to them.

>>84805430
You just make conflict and crisis or try to get him into fights to see of he can act like a man and if he knows how to fight. If hes some weak incel or gets beaten up just leave him.

>>84805719
>it'd be too much pressure to try to date someone like that.
Fair enough, though that's assuming it is like you imagine it. It doesn't hurt to try you know.
>and idk anon sounds like you're into actual mean girls, and assume everyone else is like you too. why else would you be so angry about who women do or don't break up with
Don't mind me, if anything I'm probably the mean one. I just don't really understand your ilk, men and women alike but especially women. Why not at least try? I just find your type...strange, that's all.

>>84805716
No, women behave like children so you check them and never play into them so it's a low cortisol existence, women are very easy.

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>>84805653
Nah its just female like rapist gene manifestation.
Foids were naturally selected to enjoy rape. As result they enjoy abusers today and that is not a good thing.
Foids genetically are broken toys. Environment they evolved was completely different to inventory of women rights and they went off the rails

>>84805543
>not thinking about this from an evolutionary perspective
Neither are women every time they use technology so not an excuse to not defy muh evolution. If you can train your brain to do something like reading, you can change other aspects too.
>your gun can be taken
Drills, skill issue.
>it is seen as a male sport
Also by choice, unless you're handling something very bulky or complex guns are usually quite democratic.

>>84805257
Holy true kek, men are just like foids when it comes to picking leaders it's over

>>84805770
>Foids genetically are broken toys
which is why one should never take them seriously or stress over them

>>84805661
Then why is every bitch I know married/has a boyfriend?

>>84805469
>they can guess if a man watches anime (ick) or has autism (ick) and yet they cannot detect if he is a violent abuser? Weird.
It isnt weird because men dont try to hide watching anime or having autism. They wear their nerdiness proudly on their sleeve (even if unknown to their own self). Abusers and criminals are very intentional with hiding who they are and controlling the narrative.

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>>84805791
>Abusers and criminals are very intentional with hiding who they are

>>84805791
>Abusers and criminals are very intentional with hiding who they are
If that was the case, blatantly thuggish men with gang markers all over them who constantly act on impulse would be as sexually successful as nerds.

>>84805788
Because your personal experiences are irrelevant?

>>84805858
>>84805819
Most toxic mens arent gang members but carefuly hide their narcissistic tendencies under a carefully crafted personnality.
Meanwhile most nerds and incels are just fucking ugly

>>84805896
>hide their narcissistic tendencies under a carefully crafted personnality
This is actually EXTREMELY rare. Abusive people are dumber than average and pretty blatant about it. And again, are men who openly wear their impulsiveness and thuggish behavior on their sleeves as sexually unsuccessful as socially awkward dorks?
>most nerds and incels are just fucking ugly
Not really, having autism as a man massively reduces your chance of getting laid regardless of your appearance.

>>84805370
I thought women had a sixth sense for my anonymous imageboard posts. Where does that go in these scenarios?

>>84805896
>Most toxic mens arent gang members but carefuly hide their narcissistic tendencies
see >>84805914
>This is actually EXTREMELY rare.

90% of criminals and criminal like abusive behavior people are visible miles away. manipulative stealth masterminds like Putin are simply to low in numbers to contribute to social dynamics.

>>84805951
I think I understand what you mean, but I'm not entirely sure, so I'll answer to the best of my ability:
Conditioning and biological urges are going to rule out things like intuition. A woman would probably be able to piece together when you're misogynistic, etc, if you're not good at hiding it, like these types of men often are.
The words, concepts, and the values you choose to bring up will possibly signal a woman of your imageboard activity. There a ton of dog whistles in these circles, if only because the shit talked about here is not the standard.

>>84805998
>you're misogynistic, etc, if you're not good at hiding it, like these types of men often are
They're not, that's the fucking point. Rappers won't stop singing about how women are subhuman, are they or the people in their subcultures having as little sex as Autism McDorkface and his Warhammer 40k group?

>>84805198
>dont like when people are mean to me at all
>never dated anybody ever
idk what side of the fence this is evidence for. idk. i think its socially seen as rude to flirt and ask people out so rude guys do it more. maybe.

>>84805760
sometimes one realizes that having an attraction to someone might be too intense and obsessive. then you already know you'll be the one who "cares more" basically. honestly i'm scared how much i like him, even if he barely ever gives me any sort of attention. i know i'm a loser and i want to hide it from others, i'd inevitably show how obsessed i am if i tried to show my attraction at all. then i'd end up being "the man" in this situation, the one who chases and is more obsessed. i don't want to be that is all. and sorry about rambling lmao.

>>84805998
Dude, go outside. Most women aren't even aware of what 4chan is nevermind if their boyfriend posts on it.

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>>84805998
>A woman would probably be able to piece together when you're misogynistic,

>>84806034
>i'd end up being "the man" in this situation, the one who chases and is more obsessed
Kek, this is truly a woman's worst nightmare: having to take as much initiative as a man in a relationship instead of being allowed to just exist and get him to treat her like a princess.

>>84806062
They demand gender roles for men but none for themselves, they'd threaten suicide if you told them to go make a sandwich

Oh boy, another "basement dwelling kissless virgin neets being experts on what women like" thread.

>>84805198
They're not douchebags. They're just confident and interesting as opposed to creepy incel-ish doormats "nice" guys

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>>84806204
>They're not douchebags.
ok, genius.

>>84806204
>They're not douchebags. They're just confident and interesting
You're pretending that douchebags don't get laid, which isn't true thoughbeit.

>>84805358
>Men are shit.
And you LOVE them for it
Absolutely fucking LOVE with the biggest L you could inagine

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>>84805791
>Abusers and criminals are very intentional with hiding who they are
lmao

>>84806079
Men do schoolshootings when they get told to act like men and not pretend they can be women kek. Truly the insane snowflake gender.

>>84806541
0.00001% of men do school shootings while outright majority of women demand gender roles for men but none for themselves

>>84806541
>Men do schoolshootings and then end up accruing fangirls furiously schlicking to them and sending them love letters in prison