>>84835772
>How big is your body count?
Zero

>>84835800
If I had started getting better of my mental illness in my 20s, then yeah. But I was a shut-in NEET (also fat). Now I'm thin and with an okay job, but a hag.
If it's in between "easier but only until 30" vs "harder but no age cap", I'd rather have the last option.

>>84842181
35 year old, married for 10 years. only ever been with her. horny me wants to sleep with other women but absolutely do not want to cheat on my wife (don't even sleep with other women in my dreams). open with her about it because important for healthy relationship, hard 100% no on other people, but she gets horny when I talk about women I find attractive.

love her and consider her "one of the good ones" but YES ALL WOMEN FUCKING NAG, ALL WOMEN.

>>84842270
While the no age cap part is true from a biological standpoint, socially the cap is still there at roughly the same age range. Women look at men like me (early 30s with no serious relationship) the same way men can look at a woman in her 30s. Its a red flag to them, and while I don't like it, I understand why.
Hitting that "mental illness in you 20s" phase fucks you over regardless of your sex. trust me

>>84842181
i'm 39 for a few more weeks.
it only gets worse

> 37
> wife and 2 kids
> want to fuck her constantly. she doesnt want it that much. but i tell her if she wont do it ill find someone who will
> she gives in
> i like fucking her from behind and making her suck a suction cup dildo planted on a mirror. i shove her head down it when im cumming

>>84842295
I'm a people pleaser. I was a ultra late boomer (27) had 4 prior to mine who is 1 in a million. I think about other women (who are married and likely aren't getting any) simply because I love giving women orgasms and mine struggles at the best of times due to SSRIs. I've had women say without prompting that I'm a perfect lover whereas my wife is just :)

>>84842384
Do we discuss how guys in their 30's who expect a virgin or any woman who has been in continually short relationships/ons are basically the same in terms of being low value for the other sex?

>>84842181
got rejected again, guess I still have to stick to escorts and massage parlors if I want some female company, at this point I lost hope in getting married
guitar, running, growing and using psychedelics, reading are what I use to waste my time

Wish I had a kid or two to raise, it's the only experience I feel I am missing out from.
Felt incredible ecstasy that makes your eyes roll over, felt incredible physical pain that put me in a state of shock, what the fuck is there even more to do in this life at the end of the day

>5 year relationship
>She does a 180 and everything she was and everything she stood for changed to something completely different
>Ruins expensive vacations we had been planning for over a month
>Leaves me and turns me into a villain
>Ghosts me without even a conversation
>Calls me a cheater (never cheated on her) and tells me I'm a very weird man who has ruined her life

Mind you, we were both 'weird' in the sense that both of us have always felt like outcasts, which is what brought us together in the first place. I watched my other half turn into a disgusting turbonormie. I saw her as my life partner until death. I would have done anything for her

Like a sucker, I thought she was 'the one' and 'different from all the others', which is why I committed to her. Now I have a 5 year bond to her that I don't know what to do with. It physically hurts

Needless to say, I don't trust women any longer, at all. They ALL have the same programming and always think they can do better. It's just a matter of when they'll sabotage a relationship


>>84842295
Don't cheat on her dude. Try to make it work

>>84842384
It's just normies trying to enforce behavior and shame others so they feel better about their pathetic selves.

>>84843279
Consider surrogacy if you have family support. Marriage is a scam anyway and incompatible with female nature. inb4 incel

>>84843419
>5 year relationship
>She does a 180
I wouldn't say that's normal at all, had she a history of mental illness?

>>84842181
kissless handholdless? or at least have had those experiences? this distinction matters a lot

>40+
>ended a 6 year relationship with a BPDemon because her meltdowns were just too much

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Redpill me on single moms. Let's limit it to that that their kids are white and they do not live on welfare etc.

>>84842270
>Now I'm thin
ozempic?

>>84843841
I.... Do you mean not even a kiss on the cheek?

>>84843749
Yes, very much so. The relationship had been somewhat turbulent but I stuck around thinking she was special and worth it

She wasn't

I feel like my mental health gets worse when I am off work on annual leave. Work is the only time I get to be around other people, even if they hate me for being an autistic loner weirdo.

When I'm off work I'm just sitting alone in the flat looking at a screen for a week. I don't have friends or anything like that so I can't go places and do things (I don't believe there is any point going places alone).

>>84843252
idk if they are as comparable. One is about your preferences affect how other perceive you (although it would be hypocritical for a manwhore to expect a virgin wife) vs how your actions affect how others perceive you.
>>84843419
While true, it doesn't change the fact that the perception of Man Never In Relationship=No Other Woman Values Him=Something Wrong With Him exists. Just because its wrong doesn't mean it doesn't exist

>>84843841
Yes what of it?

>>84842384
>Hitting that "mental illness in you 20s" phase fucks you over regardless of your sex. trust me
I agree with that. Ours 20s is supposed to be the good decade but if we mess it up then our lives from the on are 100x harder.
This only hits me so hard cause I really want kids (the bio clock started ticking at 24 or so, but it's been 5 years and I'm still single).>>84844020


>>84844172
No, I can't justify the cost. I intercalate days of fasting with days of binging, somehow the math works out in the end and I lose weight.

>>84843419
>I watched my other half turn into a disgusting turbonormie.
I'm sorry bro. I've been there and there are few pains as cold as this.

>>84845339
Didn't mean to quote 84844020, sorry

>>84845339
6 years*, I'm 31

>>84845373
It means you read my post, thank you for that.

>>84845339
Yeah I made so many stupid decisions in my 20s and kept digging myself a mental health hole, sometimes I feel the best I can hope for is just hanging on the edge, never fully pulling myself out.
But you are right, when that bio clock starts that existential dread gets worse for women. But being a woman with a 0 body count gives a massive advantage over other women. And the other thread you mentioned you didn't even know if you were infertile, you probably should check into that

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>be me in uni
>classmates talk something about some kind of female hygiene product
>I ask what they're talking about
>"anon, you've never really been close to a woman?"
>".... no"
That was 12 years ago. I still haven't

>>84843419
She reacted like that because she's cheating on you

>>84845920
I don't think so, though I do think she was mentally prepared to, had the opportunity presented itself. She said a lot of hurtful things when breaking up, to cause me harm, so had she cheated I most likely would've heard about it

>>84845364
Thanks bro. It's like watching a part of you die. That's how it felt, at least.

work at a wendy's. theres 1 guy who constantly asks for the cheapest thing. he is scared of price hikes. he once told me, my card only has like 2 dollars in it. same scenario every week. i doubted him until it rejected one time. i told the machine he paid with cash and gave him the receipt. anyway theres actually a few ppl like that. its gettin real bad out there

>>84842181
how do i cope with dissociative amnesia from trauma? do i keep a journal and write down traumatic experiences when i remember them? i'm stuck in a cycle where i forget and then suddenly remember trauma and get really pissed.

>>84842444
That sounds like the way to do it. Be firm.

Guys in sexless marriages won't do it for some reason. It's a test for her if she has any ounce of respect left for you.

is it worth stop living with mom if I have no gf? 34, work from home and have enough savings but if I suddenly go to live on my own I'm going to have to spend a lot of money that I always have available now for my hobbies and shit

>>84846601
It depends on if you like your mom or not. If no then yes.

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i wish i had money to buy case of beer everyday and just play wow privateservers until i colapse

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>>84846689
>never forget what the blizzard kikes took from you

>36
>never had sex
>never been abroad
>only worked in a warehouse for a year
>life is sustained by parents as I can't be bothered getting welfare

>>84842181
>35
>The only physical contact I've had ever is my cat falling asleep on my chest, purring as I scratch his cheek.
It's so over.

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Do you guys have any idea what you're doing in life? Do you have jobs? Careers?
I'm not the only one who is lost and a neet in his 30s right?

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>>84848507
I have a career but I still feel lost. Everyone in this world feels fake and performative

It's hard to find a good, honest connection and even when you think you do, shit like >>84843419 happens from one moment to the other

A job/career is important, but I feel and think meaning and contentedness goes much deeper than that. I'm still figuring it out

>>84848507
no you're not but there's a variety of levels to the people here as well. some have jobs, some have careers, some have meaningful experiences, some have sex, some have relationships, some have wives.
for me i have something of a career but nothing else. i often think about quitting and don't feel like it's giving me much. the ability to live alone, okay, not being broke, okay, but not much else. travelling alone sucks. you don't need a career to have friends or meaningful people in your life, and a career hasn't given me those things. it's only reminding me how very different i am from those people and it's hard to keep a straight face around them when you feel like an alien.

>>84848507
I thought I had a career path planned out, but I fucked that up. I got caught in the loop of working dead end jobs with no future until I finally just snapped and went neet mode.
Now I cant even try and get a dead end job again, the futility of everything is just crushing.
You're not alone, anon. I'm in the same boat

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>ate mcdonalds (2 mcdoubles, basket of fries, and a large coke)
>felt like shit. bloated. wanted to lay down and die.
>ate a dessert i made earlier today immediately after
>still feel bad, corrupted. buzzing from sugar. still want to lay down and die.
im gonna go lay down. i'll probably just sleep but maybe i'll die.
vid of who i could've been if i went outside more but otherwise shaped like me.

I sincerely miss the old internet, back in the days when you could fedpost all you want, even make extreme threats on 4chan and nothing happened to you. At worst the site just went down for a bit. Making treats on twitter and @FBI.
Thirdies really don't know how good they have it. Imagine living in fucking Peru or Russia. The internet is your fucking oyster. The muslim rape gang thing on X today reminds me of those old days. Tons of people that don't live in the UK just straight up inciting some unhinged shit. Wish I could join them. Not that I care, I just like the rush you know. Its like calling someone a nigger. Its not about them, they're so self centered for thinking it is, its just the tingly feeling. The same feeling you got as a kid when throwing eggs at a house, looking at porn on grandmas computer, smoking under the bleachers. The world today is really lacking any avenue for this. You can't even suck a dick now and feel cool about it, everyone will just congratulate you and make you feel accepted, its almost menacing and evil of them to do so. How do they know that robs me of the rush?

I run my own nails across my own shoulders sometimes just to remember what oxytocin feels like

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I give myself six more months of this, and if nothing positive has changed I will end my life in new years.

>>84849098
It's more likely the site dies before you do. It's on its last legs, nobody wants to maintain it anymore.

>>84849098
But New Years is almost...a...year...away....
Fuck.

Just turned 30 today, i'm in the big boy club.

Virgin
Neeting
living a comfy life,

we'll all make it one day

>41yo failed cyborg
>6 year ex left me for the dumbest and seemingly least likely replacement and married him right away
>banged a few since, but nothing has worked and certainly not the 18yos that I would have given anything to stay with
>all of the 'appropriate' matches my age are Lainey Molnar travel/wine/tats type broads with a delusional and exhausting self image, are beyond walled, and/or have kids
>all of the young hot pieces of ass sees me as fling material and nothing more
I guess this is where I score a few more BPD college age bodies until I go grey, then it's hermitage until the cops find my half cat-eaten corpse. I feel the need to run to the boss room and try over and over again because I don't have much time left.

>>84850286
>Lainey Molnar travel/wine/tats type broads with a delusional and exhausting self image, are beyond walled, and/or have kids
Truly

>>84850286
maybe asia for some lumpy asian girl

>job interview tomorrow

Wish me luck bros. I might get out of the call center for real this time.

Honestly on paper I could probably get a wife and kids despite being a 34 year old virgin because all my basic stats are pretty decent but I still feel like a fucking alien every time I interact with people. This schizoid shit never goes away, it seems

>all these wizards
Be honest with yourself, how do you assess your physical appearance? If you're not fat, your teeth aren't fucked, and your hair's still there just spam yourself on the apps. Do it now. Have your mom or a friend take a few 3rd person shots. Take a bunch of selfies and pick the best ones. Do NOT waste your 30s. It doesn't get any easier. This is your prime. Your 40s will be a desert of BEAT hags with bad attitudes, your failed counterparts. 30-something is a number low enough for a young woman to justify to herself and her peers/family. 40-something will limit you to BPD teens who will never take you seriously, and that's ONLY if your genetics haven't fucked you over by then or you offer lots of money to them like a creep.

>>84851329
>muh women but what will people think of you later
Worthless comment from a mind plugged into gynocracy.

>>84851346
Look man I'm just saying, if any of these 30-somethings (or you) want to fuck, the time to act is now.

>>84851329
I'm the worst sort of skinnyfat, everything goes straight to my belly. Probably all the beer I used to drink. I'm basically the equivalent of when a fat chick doesn't have a fat face and tricks the guy with her pic.
My bigger problem though is I'm broke, unemployed and a miserable sad sack to be around.

>>84848507
nah you're not alone i'm a neet game dev

one day i'm gonna make it, just you wait

>>84843252
What makes a man low value for a woman

>>84848507
>Do you guys have any idea what you're doing in life?
No. I've always lived life on auto pilot doing what I was supposed to do. Go to high school, go to college, get a job. Beyond that I feel the same I did when I was 16.
>Do you have jobs? Careers?
I work as web developer but I don't care about it anymore and every day I go to sleep dreaming about winning the lottery and quitting my job.

>>84851804
pffffffffffft.
Depends on the woman & the man and everything else.
I think the two things though every woman I've met has been happy that I have a social network & a job/career.
Living at home had lowered it. I am not tall or overly fit.

Different flaws can be looked past to some degree depending on the man/woman.

it's over for me 30+ neet sub5 femoid with visible genetic problems

>>84842181
what health issues? maybe it's not that bad

>>84842181
HIRE A HOOKER
>But I don't want sex I want love!
WOMEN DON'T LOVE

I've been grinding it out at the gym and I'm on the cusp of getting stronger than I was at age 25 (I'm now 37). Only problem is I'm at the point where I'm squatting 315 pounds 5 times for 3 sets and it's killing my knees. It sucks to get old. Maybe I should take a break for like one week.

>>84851223
gl getting out of call center hell

Turned 30 in April, haven't had a job this year longer than a couple weeks. On another unemployed streak. I've worked so many crap jobs in town that I don't know where to go now. I don't get calls back, would rather not deal with temp agencies. I quite honestly don't want to work shit jobs where they bus a bunch of negros to our small town from Cleveland where they're asking to borrow your box cutter and they pocket it. I'm about to fucking apply at McDonalds because I don't care anymore, and moving out again seems unattainable from my depressing, lonely perspective. Like what's the point, slave away for big corp so I maybe have enough money to wipe my own ass in my own apartment alone, MAYBE?!

>>84844567
I felt the same living alone with only 1 friend that I saw sometimes. Going out for me was going to the shitty Laundromat with every other bitter crabby anti-social retard set up folding, trying to own an entire row of machines. Or going grocery shopping rudely passing by turned up nose couples scoffing my longer ass.

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I'm playing the same video games I played back when I was 12 years old. Surely the happiness that I felt back then will come to me any moment, right?

>be normie married man
>have sex regularly
>"lets go into r9k"
>"lets go into specifically virgin thread"
>"hey guys i have sex and stuff, my life is kinda trash lmao"
>gets hate
>pickachuface.img

>>84852469
>gets hate
I don't recall this

>>84842181
>health issues
Find a health support group for your diagnosis. Problem with going out is solved

30, I hate women. Every fucking problem I have ever had has been caused by a woman.
I disowned my own bitch mother for divorce raping my dad.
The only girl I ever loved cheated on me and ended up a heroin addict.
I can't trust them, they have no honor or virtue and they just are not worth the time so I dont even try. I'd rather sit home drink, smoke, and play video games. Women disgust me now.

>>84848954
>sincerely miss the old internet
Remember how only above average users were on the intranets because it took a few minutes to set up? That's the greatest filter even now. Setup any distributed network (matrix or whatever is popular these days), get a few fake accounts registered on the hobo in mexico and so on. That exact internet is still there

i find myself pathetic and immoral for failing at life, no matter what excuses i have. i became wise to free will not existing probably out of cope, but that's changed recently, and it's been a cold shock that i might just be accountable for all the decisions and non-decisions i've made. because of this change of heart i hate myself more than ever, but the part of me that feels powerless to fix my life dominates me. is all i am now a pathetic husk of a person, with my own blood and that of the people i could have helped on my hands? i could have done so much more, instead i let myself drown in misery every single day. nothing ever changes, no revelatory dreams, nothing to guide me but guilt and self-hatred. i hate myself so much i can't let myself die. i'm beyond suicide, i owe the world but i still do nothing. it's so fucked.

>>84852730
>i might just be accountable for all the decisions and non-decisions i've made
It's quite absurd to think either.

>>84852771
how convenient for you

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>30
>play video games after work
>reaction speed got slow
>lose interest
>3/2 of my income goes to insurance
>can't buy for shit
>shitposting is now my only hobby

>>84852800
>how convenient for you
You must take accountability for it

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part of me wishes I had never tried crystallized MDMA. a temporary taste of what normies get to experience every day...

>>84852871
I do to an extent

what happens when you turn 30
if our society was based on 12 this would be a 36+ thread
just an imaginary threshold

>>84852936
30 should potentially offer more chance to change things and develop than 36.
35 is historically middle aged.

my life has been frozen ever since I failed hs ages 15-16
never been able to finish it and move on with my life and just repeating that shit
then getting student loans and failing and being locked out of returning or starting school and been perma locked on wellfare because unable to get a job until I can take student loans a decade later is insane
now I technically finished my hs but I still don't feel it's over because I lack basic subjects to study at a higher level, so it's kinda useless still, it's still not finished, still not something I can lay behind me and move on, just fucking stuck on this shit still

>>84851329
>your hair's still there
hasn't been there before i turned 30

>>84853134
if you technically finished hs i guarantee you that you have the capability to study at a higher level
college is really not that hard it's just about doing the work and showing up everyday.
learning is easy if you do it everyday. it compounds.

>>84844073
>pic
literally me