like, everywhere I go women seemingly all want the same guy: 6'4, white, rich, lanky or fitrealistically you cannot all have this guy. 0.2% of men are over 6'3. only 5% of men are even 6'0. that's before factoring in race or income at all. and this is in the west where men are significantly taller than the rest of the world. you will not get this "ideal" man unless you are in the top percentile of women. so you'd rather just be alone forever than be happy with someone average?whenever i see threads for moids to post their "ideal" woman there's always a wide variety of girls: chubby, skinny, big breasts, small breasts, asian, white, black, latina, tall short, etc it seems like there's a moid for every type of girl. but when fembots post their ideal man, it's literally always the same exact guy, a guy who has likely had hundreds of sexual partners and exclusively dates models. do women not realize that competing for the same "high social status" man results in worse romantic prospects than just finding their niche and being happy with it?genuinely curious if any femanon wants to give her take or defend this behavior. i know they won't but hey i'm bored.
>>84858622Is your reference point of female dating standards from social media and dating apps? Because there is plenty of variety in what women want outside of the things you're going to see from the ragebait ecosystem.
>>84858622I'm a loaded, shredded, and hung 6'3 white guy. Femanons post timestamped pussy to apply to be my gf.
>>84858642i was straight up rejected by a girl irl for not being tall enough. i'm 5'10, which in theory puts me in the top 10% when it comes to height. but that's not enough. in hindsight I should've just lied about my height but I naively thought honesty was the right thing to do.
>>84858680She was just not a good woman. It happens. Not your fault, but it doesn't mean everyone else is like that, too.
>>84858703That's not really fair to write her off as a bad woman. This isn't really a rare taste for women. She isn't an outlier in my experience even as a relatively tall man.Just go on /soc/ and post identical profiles but one with a height of 5'8 and the other a height of 6'2. The difference in women adding you will be massive. Sure, most of these women won't be upfront about their height fetish because they don't want to be judged, but they just won't consider you a potential mate all the same.consider this: when it comes to female breast size, men and women are actually nearly identical in their preferences; 95% of men's "ideal" breast size is the perfectly average B, C, or D cups. Why are men more rational in their tastes gravitating towards the average while women tend to want the extreme high end? Is this not unfair?
>>84858642Genuinely one of the dumbest posts of all time. The vast majority of relationships are started on dating apps now. Datinf apps ARE the real world, that's how people date. You are the one referencing a fantasy land make believe tiny percentile of women who don't use dating apps or social media. You are delusional
>>84858622Women live in delusional lala fantasy land and are raging cunts if they aren't handed life on a silver platter.The percentage of men 6'+ with a 6 figure salary, a 6 pack, and a 6"+ dick has to be at most 0.1% of all men in the world or less, but because a foid watched a movie or read a book with that exact man as the protagonist and she's too retarded to distinguish fantasy from reality, she's going to be a raging cunt toward whatever poor man she ends up "settling" for.
>>84858850>at most 0.1% of all men in the world0.1% of all men in the world is still 4 million men, it's probably more like 0.01% of all men and don't forget that most women will only consider dating a man within a narrow range band within her own age. The ideal man for a foid of any given age is likely 0.001% of all men in existence.And that's still not counting the countless other nitpicky things that foids deem important for the men they date like if he's balding or if he's got a big social circle or if he's got the right hobbies or if his chin is prominent enough. For the vast majority of foids, they will live their entire lives without ever meeting their "ideal man" and they will spend their entire lives making everyone around them know just how upset that makes them by throwing a 60 year tantrum about how she had to settle for a man who is only 5'11" and only makes upper five figures and only has a 5" penis and only has a schlubby slightly overweight body. GOD life is so UNFAIR and CRUEL for poor poor women.
>>84858622>do you really not think there's anything wrong with your dating standards?They are genuinely dumb. You say anything from your OP they just call you an incel. They're all having sex with that top guy, there is enough of them around. Then she spends her day high and happy pills. They already got what they wanted. They can't differentiate casual sex and dating or anything from anything. As long as she is fucking she doesn't have a problem. This is why they start bitching a lot at 30. They were fucking these guys for the last 15 years. That completely satisfies her. They don't have a concept of love. They actually want guys like you dead.
I know my standards are retarded but I cant help it. You cant control who you're attracted to. I cant force myself to be attracted to people I'm not. I would rather just be alone
Women are going to have specific wants in a partner because they're going to want to have children which need the best genes to keep tbeir line going strong. This is a part of their biological orogramming, and we as humans haven't actually strayed from it much despite what people think. They're going to be risking their health and life from it, so it needs to be worth it. This is unlike you and all the guys who would go for any thing because you just need to have a child to keep your genes going. You just so happen to have preferences but not fir the biological sense like women do. Society trying to go the monogamy route is a joke. We're programmed for polygamy, with most men not getting much of a chance to breed. It's why almodt all women will go to Chad because that is how were built, and since other women want him as well, he's considered high value to join this harem. Once you realize women are just robots doing their programming, it's a lot easier to just ignore them. If you really cannot ignore it, prostitutes exist
>>84859218why does the man being tall affect biological prosperity? there is zero scientific correlation between height and survival. the only advantage height gives you is having sex with more women. it's just a peacock trait.being taller does not make you better in a fight. it does not make you smarter. it does not make you better at warfare. in fact in every modern war being tall has been a massive disadvantage. what the fuck are women optimizing for when they fetishize height?if you seriously wanted to argue that women date for the prosperity of their children, then they would be selecting for things like resistance to disease or physical strength or speed or intelligence. instead they select for a trait like height that just makes you a bigger target and leads to long term health issues lol.
>>84858680Of she's that shallow then you don't want that bitch. I'm sick of people excusing bad behavior from women. It's just as shitty as a man saying he wants a DD / E cup size girlfriend or more. People are more than a piece of meat.
>>84859254Being tall is linked to nutrition, which links to greater androgen production. Heighy shows that the guy has resources and he's better able to fight to survive. Height is also a good determiming survival factor in different climates. Historically, men were shorter when there was poverty. These men did not have great access to food and tended to have shorter sons. Meanwhile, the rich had taller children.
>>84858837>The vast majority of relationships are started on dating apps nowIts still not near the majority, its closer to twenty or thirty percent. Most people who are meeting others online do it through social media. Women are less likely to use dating apps, most dating apps like tinder have a gender imbalance of 20 women to 80 men.
>>84859254Because women are cavemen and stuck picking guys based on whether they look like they would do well in an unarmed fight because he'd make a good alpha/harem master in a primitive tribe. That's also they like violent and impulsive assholes/abusechad and why hybristophilia is a thing. We need to put an end to women having that kind of choice, or we're going to evolve away from intelligence, low time preference, and the ability to cooperate in large groups in favor of behavior more suited to small tribes full of conflict over scarce resources.
>>84858622Height is the only physical aspect I care about, sincerely, and I feel bad about it. I have this coworker that'd be literally perfect for me if he wasn't 5'4, we have so much in common and our conversations are the best, I feel so comfortable around him. In my defense, my dad is the same height and I have some degree of daddy issues which activates as me not wanting anyone like my dad at all. But, still...
>>84859321if that was the case they'd just be selecting for wealth instead of height. lets not forget that africans are the tallest race and yet their countries tend to be extremely poor. meanwhile asians are the shortest despite many of them having high incomes.the "height is linked to nutrition" argument only works before puberty. literally all it tells you is "this guy's parents fed him well" while having no correlation with his own actual ability to survive.i swear women are just working backwards from their fetish and then trying to develop a historical scientific basis for it. historically the only advantage height gave you in battle was being able to see further distances. you required more calories to develop muscle and were at higher risk of disease or breaking a bone resulting in death in the wild. then as warfare has evolved this advantage has completely disappeared and now being shorter(smaller target and more able to squeeze into tight spaces) is a massive advantage while being tall basically makes you unsuited for combat. like there's a reason combat sports have weight classes instead of height classes. yet, where are all the foids that fetishize bulky short/average men with min/maxed strength stats? virtually nonexistent.
>>84859321Being tall shortens your lifespan as it's harder on your circulatory system. There's also no evidence of widespread malnutrition to justify a height preference in men. Not in modern developed countries at least. This may be a leftover of much older programming. But it's dumb in a modern context. I had no issue with dating back in the 00s but dating apps were way more basic and new back then. I found a wife in real life despite being 5 ft 7 manlet. There's an argument that height shouldn't be listed on the app at all if there's this much insanity over 6 ft vs 5 ft11 inches the same way apps don't ask women their cup size
>>84859289>Of she's that shallow then you don't want that bitch.So fucking sick of this cope. This is not a valid cope when it's 100% of women who are like this.
>>84859345What's your own height? I don't blame you if you're taller than him, but if you're not...
>>84859366>There's an argument that height shouldn't be listed on the app at all if there's this much insanity over 6 ft vs 5 ft11 inches the same way apps don't ask women their cup sizeinterestingly I was searching google and asking AI for a pie chart of average female breast sizes or just any stats about breast size averages to match the OP image, and it was literally impossible. zero journalistic publications want to publish this despite it being totally normalized to publish average male height. the closest I was able to find was stuff like >>84858793 or surveys about "national averages" with no deeper statistics.I suspect this is because women would get upset and claim it encourages body image issues or insecurity. science definitely has a bias I suppose. if anyone has these statistics or knows a better way to find them I am genuinely curious about the breakdown of breast sizes in america. I suspect a higher percentage of women have massive(E+) breasts than the percentage of men that are 6'0. yet women will constantly get on your case if you like big boobs and call you sexist lol.
>>84859358It has nothing much to do with combat or combat ability in itself. It's about resources. That is what everything is about. Having resources links to being able to survive, even in a fight. If your opponent is malnourished, they have less of a chance to survive. Their muscles won't work as efficiently for longer periods of time. Women need resources which height signals. Yes, tall men means they're fed better. Hence: he has resources.Once you realize this, everything makes sense. A girl wanting a shorter guy is a cope for not being abke to get a tall Chad with rich connnections or their brain is broken.
>>84859388I'm 5 ft 7 and never had a problem with dating. But I knew girls irl and asked them out in real life. I have a strong suspicion dating apps are letting women compare men's heights and that's affecting who they pursue when in the old days they didn't know a guys actual measured height even if they knew him.
>>84859084>You cant control who you're attracted toYou can't act like this is something completely genetically encoded in your brain though, because things weren't this bad in the 2000s; I was there. It's only gotten unbearable since everyone started using dating apps and social media. It's probably 75% a social contagion.
Sounds like we need to undo Women's rights and go back to arranged marriages. Because you cannot have a functioning society where women only breed with the top 20% of Men.
>>84859394I'm 5'2. I think tall women care less about height than short women.
>>84859345genuinely why does height matter? it makes no difference in his ability to be a good partner to you.>>84859084saying you can't help your standards is only true in a broad sense(being attracted to men/women or certain races basically is almost entirely biological programming). caring about hyper specific details like income, height, weight, etc is mostly social programming. as a man my tastes have evolved dozens of times throughout my adult life. I used to be into super skinny loli-like girls when I was in high school. as I aged I got more into "bigger" girls or girls that look more mature. I used to have a height fetish for shortstacks in my 20's(super short girls with huge boobs) but these days I couldn't really care less about height. even going as far as race, I used to be exclusively attracted to white girls when I was young and immature and now I'm attracted to every single race and have things I like about them. this is "normal" I would think, adapting your tastes to the people around you and your experiences.I don't know why people act like their tastes are just naturally super strict and will remain exactly the same through their life. it just sounds like an excuse to not have an open mind. if you're aware that your biases will lead you down a path of loneliness then why the fuck aren't you doing anything to improve yourself? grow up foid.
>>84859366>This may be a leftover of much older programmingYeah, and I said this from the beginning.>But it's dumb in a modern context. And I don't disagree with you on that. Us having a variation of oreferences actually helps humans along unlike women onky wanting tall Chads. However, ir again goes back to resources.
>>84859419>dating apps are letting women compare men's heights and that's affecting who they pursueThat's 100% what it is, it's a feedback loop of something they have a slight preference for getting stronger because they can compare both the guys they want to each other and to their friends bfs.>when in the old days they didn't know a guys actual measured height even if they knew himThis as well. In my experience, women can't tell the difference between 6' and 8' if it's an object that has to fit in a car, so no way they can tell the difference between 5'11" and 6'.
>>84859395I haven't actually thought about that, but you're right, there really isn't data published about adult female breast sizes. The best we have are consumer data from bra selling companies and that's a trade secret so it's not shared Yet oddly there's multiple studies I've actually seen on penile length.
>>84859434If you're both single, why not ask him out?>because no matter how hard you try to feel comfortable, it's possible that you might never feel comfortableOh, yes, that. That might happen, and you might have to break up. But even if you do break up, it's not the end of the world. The sun keeps shining, the birds keep singing, both of you keep living.Don't keep yourself away from a very good thing just because you're afraid of a mildly bad thing.
>>84859395>yet women will constantly get on your case if you like big boobs and call you sexist lolAnd that's even ignoring the fact that most men who like big boobs would be perfectly happy dating a girl with small boobs too because it's just a preference for them and not a hard cutoff like height is for women.I've never met a man who refused to date a girl with a bra size below F cup for example, but there are lots of women who will simply refuse to date a man because he's not 6'2" or taller.
>>84859440>genuinely why does height matter? it makes no difference in his ability to be a good partner to you.I'm not sure. Maybe the desire to be protected in a dangerous situation.>>84859481>If you're both single, why not ask him out?We're both single, we flirt a lot and I'm a little bit in love with him.
>>84859443>And I don't disagree with you on that. Us having a variation of oreferences actually helps humans along unlike women onky wanting tall Chads. However, ir again goes back to resources.if it was just about resources there are much more accurate status signals than height tbqh. especially in a modern context. stuff like what kind of car you drive or what clothes/shoes you wear or what type of art you consume actually has a higher correlation with income/status.i really don't buy the biological programming excuse at all. biologically it would be to womens advantage to pair bond and therefore their standards should revert towards the mean like men's. it has the highest guarantee of their offspring thriving because loving two parent households are by far the greatest predictor of child success across virtually every metric. even when you factor in income, race, height, weight, geography, etc just having two parents who love eachother puts you significantly ahead of every one of your peers. and this has been the norm for pretty much ever since divorce has been normalized in western society. so it's probably safe to say that it never changed and has been the case through all of history. now given that fact, wouldn't it make the most "biological sense" for women to select for men who are reliable the way men select for women? or is the female biological imperative just all about optimizing for "best case scenario" and willing to risk their child being fucked over by life just so she can sleep with chad? that would be really fucking strange and I would consider it a biological flaw if women were willing to doom their children to sleep with chad, not a biological optimization.
>>84859493>I'm not sure. Maybe the desire to be protected in a dangerous situation.how does height correlate with height? shouldn't you be selecting for muscle mass instead in that case?hell as a fat guy i've gotten in fights with lanky zoomer chuds who were 6 inches taller than me and manhandled them despite never working out. what the fuck is the tall guy gonna protect you from, birds??
>>84859493>I'm a little bit in love with himWould the potential negative consequences of a breakup outweigh the potential positives of finding True Love?
>>84859321You are retarded, anon asked you what was genetically superior about being tall and your answer is "cuz nutrition and shi". Ok? The question was what made tall height genetically superior, what does nutrition have to do with superior genetics? Is superior nutrition going to making pygmies 6 feet tall? Why do morons like yourself try to justify what is an aesthetic preference for some eugenic reason? Even your other reasoning of better androgen production isn't an objective metric for genetic superiority even if it was true and not done shit you just made up. Even the notion polygamy is eugenic is retarded as well given the fact that since according to your own logic for what's genetically superior (height +androgen production), we see that historically monogamous populations, Europeans, are the tallest and most dimorphic. Pseuds who justify lookism with evolution are embarrassing.
>>84858622That's only applicable to non-white subhumans. White people are tall as fuck.
>>84859493You are both shallow and dumb as fuck if you're going to pass on someone you have actual chemistry with over a number that didn't matter half as much 15 years ago, pre modern social media.
>>84859578This is not to mention your other reasons like climate could literally be argued in the opposite direction, that some environments favor manlets, thus proving there's nothing inherently evolutionarily superior about height. Likewise, the notion that being tall is proof you are able to acquire more resources could be argued in the opposite direction, that it's proof you take up too much resources and are less likely to survive a famine. Tallness is almost entirely aesthetic preference, women select tall men because they prefer it aesthetically. It's not much more complicated than that, no need for retarded pseud trite about evolution.
>>84859493>the desire to be protected in a dangerous situation.Buy him a gun. ;^)
>>84859610pretty much, the filtering for height is really just filtering for white men
ITT: manlet copeManlets just never learnhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=tbBcxOcoZ_4
>>84859650>>84859610this may sound like a victory for white men but you realize that women's standards for height adapt with nationality? ie, being 5'10 is considered tall in asia or latam but being 6'3 is considered short in the netherlands. women always want men at the extremes no matter how unreasonable those extremes are.also if you approach it purely from a "white supremacy" angle if only white men are reproducing that means eventually the entire human race will just be a boring ass monoculture. we would no longer have cute asian girls because they will have bred the asian traits out of their gene pool. we would no longer have latinas or black girls. your only option would be a 5/10 white stacy whose skin burns on a moderately warm winter day. i get that some chuds would love this outcome but i find it really boring tbqh. probably why outside of one all my past gf's have been non-white, yet inevitably my own genetics entering their gene pool will lead to the collapse of the races i find most attractive.
>>84859752Half black women love us. That's all that matters.
>>84859752so what? a guy from netherlands can score in all of your shitskin countries just due to being tall, you can't score in his country
>>84859797sure I guess, so you could argue dutch men have the easiest time getting laid. but it doesn't change that he has to leave his own country to find sexual success which like, well anyone can do. as a 5'10 man i could just go to SEA and live like a king with my american income and my incel problems would disappear. but that isn't really a societally sustainable solution. it's only an individual solution. you can't have your entire adult male population of the first world going to SEA to find a wife.
>>84858622i genuinely cant speak to this because we live in completely different realities OP. my mom likes bald guys around 5'9, she hates when men are so tall she feels like a kid. my sister likes skinny russian guys. i like chubby mexican boys and white guys who look like they're desperately trying to escape puberty and black guys with big brown eyes and smooth voices. i think youre just interacting in circles rhat are super horny and focus on the apex of sex appeal in the fashion industry.
>>84859814sure i can, deal with it shitskin>5'10hi jeet
>>84859827i'm a white american lol my skin is probably whiter than yours my ancestors were french/german.>>84859825i mostly go for normal looking girls but in weeb spaces. not bimbos or tiktok thots but just girls i could conceivably enjoy anime/otaku stuff with. it hasn't really worked out at all in the long run, despite being frumpy and totally average most of them only want "ikemen" as they would put it. i've dated a few girls but it always feels like they're just with you until they find something better. basically girls like pic related.
>>84858680>5'10,holy smokes bow down, WE HAVE A KING WITH US
>>84859914>t. some 6'3 troon lanklet that looks like a skellington and will never pass for a womani bet i could snap you in half
>>84859878>frenchnot white>german swarthy
>>84858622The ideal man is guy picciotto. My only dating requirement is to look like guy picciotto and be over 5'6 (my height). Not all women want the same thing, youre probably just being lied to by men pretending to be women on the internet. Or youre just paying attention to hivebrained retards.
