>drinking with my husband last weekend>we both get a bit drunk >at some point I jokingly ask him if he thinks he is smarter than me>he just says yes>I am confused and ask if he is serious to which he says yes again>get upset and go to bed thinking maybe its just the alcohol >ask again in the next morning to which he again says yes, but that doesnt mean he thinks im dumbDo any men ever see you as an equal? I havent been able to get over this.
He's just smarter than you and that's it. Holy shit cannot women just stop nagging?
>>84903042the turtle is not actually my son so i couldn't care less
>>84903042>Do men see you as equalNo not really, i've carried the women in my life in a backpack basically.I see them as pets I guess.Even if a woman say, knew quantum mechanics at an expert level I would still be smarter than her in every other way that matters.In any case when it comes down to it you're still a woman born to be bent over and stroked.It sounds bad because I'm autistic someone with more tact can explain it but its not a bad thing...i dont think
Why do you care? Why are you so insecure and easily offended? Don't ask shit-test questions stupid fucking foid, your reaction to your own question proves him right.Imagine if he asked if you thought you were more attractive and then acted like you.
>>84903065Look up Piaget water level task your mind will be blownYou too OP
>>84903071Because I left my life behind to move countries to be with him, I want to at least be respected after that sacrifice
>>84903108>I left my life behind to move countries to be with him>he correctly and objectively estimates my trait???>time for a divorce, I'm taking everything
>>84903114>>time for a divorce, I'm taking everythingI mean to be fair to OP that's a pretty galaxy-brain move. Basic, sure, but if her husband can't see a gleaming bear trap waiting to take his leg off maybe he really isn't the smarter one in the relationship.
>>84903108Why do you have to be acknowledged as smarter than him when that is clearly not the case?
>>84903108How is it disrespectful? You either honestly think you're better in every way or just want to hear lies. Why are you all so brain damaged like this?
>>84903114>>84903118This isnt a divorce worthy thing retards you can be upset without ever wanting a divorce >>84903125>>84903138i dont want to be told im smarter but I thought he viewed me as equal. I went to uni, speak 3 languages (one of them is his that I am currently learning) am always very knowledgeable about whatever we are discussing. I feel under looked at
>>84903078I've seen this experiment like 8 years ago and tried asking my female acquaintances about it. Everyone answered correctly, even the brain damaged one. Maybe the real problem is that the people in the experiments were American.
>>84903042You wouldn't be attracted to him if he wasn't your superior, foid, it's how your kind works. You literally put yourselves in positions of subservience with your dedication to chad.
>>84903150Sorry, we men can't really see women as intellectual equals after we have to teach them basic things and help them deal with routine life circumstances. The fact that you know something about something doesn't really matter when you're not functional unless men are around.
>>84903150>i went to uni>knowledgeable about whatever we are discussing>whatever we are discussingoh dear
>>84903162The only way in which men are superior to women is physically and some men you cant even say that for anymore>>84903167Is this why? I am unemployed (not by choice) so does he view me as helpless?>>84903173I am ESL if I made a mistake but what is wrong about that?
>>84903184It's all because you're an actual retard. He's just nice enough to delude himself into thinking that you're not. Just be happy about that.
>>84903042You can be smarter/dumber than someone and still treat them as an equal, provided the difference between your intelligence levels isn't abysmal.
>>84903042>Do any men ever see you as an equal?Yes, obviously. You just need to ask yourself why you're not with a man like that. Are you attracted to confident, dominant men? If yes then there's your answer.
>>84903184your mistake was deluding yourself into thinking a degree makes you intelligent and that intelligent people with agreeable personalities will treat you as their intellectual equal, what is your degree in?
>>84903196He treats me as an equal I just dont know if he sees me as much>>84903202STEM but I wont say what exactly because you retards will devalue it
>>84903184>The only way in which men are superior to women is physically and some men you cant even say that for anymorewhy are there separate leagues for esports, darts, chess etc and why are the top female players in these competitions always trannies?
>>84903211yes because it isnt valuable lmao you're the only retard here
>>84903042so for him to consider you an equal means he has to pretend you're the exact same in everything? jesus christ
>>84903214>men are better than women because ughhh..DARTS!>>84903217Uni is free where im from so even if you view my degree as "worthless" why wouldnt i go? Especially since i liked what i studied. The only thing that devalues it in the country I am in now is the language i completed it in and where i earned it
>>84903224>men are better than women because ughhh..DARTS!i can confirm that not only are you dumber than your boyfriend but that you are very dumb in generalif your degree isnt going to be devalued by what it is actually in then why dont you indulge us?
>>84903108Are you that one foid whose husband refuses to learn your language?You are constantly posting about how displeased you are with him, I have a feeling that you're just nitpicking and looking for reasons to leave him. Once you gather enough grievances you'll be able to rationalize leaving him without feeling guilty, and then you'll give yourself the green light to do it.
>>84903211Why not ask him why he thinks that and/or if he considers you an intellectual equalMaybe it would help if you elaborated this to each other or something. If he's smart he'll explain it.Though honestly I think sometimes it's easier to just let your partner think whatever they want as long as they behave
>>84903224id have thought better of you if you had at least responded with some comment about how obviously the tail and head ends of either gender on a distribution of aptitudes would mean men are vastly overrepresented when it comes to elite level stuff despite there being more overlap than not between genders, but you are in fact quite retarded
>>84903235Environmental science >>84903236Yes but I dont blame him for it desu my language is very hard to learn if you dont know another slavic language already. I love him and wanna spend my life on him but its ok to just yell into the void (not on female IBs because you will get clowned on for being a Nigel fag) >>84903239First genuine reply and actually good advice, I will do this thanks
>>84903247> (not on female IBs because you will get clowned on for being a Nigel fag) CC is pretty chill when it comes to that, definitely more chill than this thread kek
>>84903247>Yes but I dont blame him for it desu my language is very hard to learn if you dont know another slavic language alreadySorry but what are you talking about? When you're a child learning your own language, do you also know 5 other languages? No you don't.Every language can be learned with a modicum of effort. None of it is "hard", especially in the modern era with the Internet and various apps at your disposal.This is just making excuses for him fundamentally not giving a shit about your heritage.Also, regarding OP, welcome to men (and people in general). Everyone thinks they're the smartest. The thing with men is that we have a big ego, so you can always expect a man to be honest about his opinion that he's the smartest fucker in the room. We all believe it, truly.
>>84903283>Every language can be learned with a modicum of effort. None of it is "hard", especially in the modern era with the Internet and various apps at your disposal.How many languages have you learned as an adult
>>84903283I mean yea I guess he could have with enough time but I dont think that means he doesnt care about my culture. We both engage with each others cultures. And I already knew a bit of his language (German) from schooling and German is considerably less time consuming and easier to learn than Polish. And besides we ended up not living in poland so there isnt much point for him to learn it now because not like it is used anywhere else.
Men and women are equally as dumb and incels are fucking retards
>>84903291One. I don't use myself as an example, I'm just some random retard who has lived in one country his entire life. If I had a foreign partner I'd certainly put effort into learning their language at least to the point where I could teach it to a small child properly.I work with people who picked up new languages in adult years and become certified translators. Languages are perfectly learnable and even absolute morons can be multilingual with enough commitment.>>84903314I mean it's your business, I just don't see a world where a "smart" person doesn't speak their spouse's language.
>>84903150>I went to uniThat's a point against your intelligence, smart people (really smart people) are autodidactic, university is for midwits.>speak 3 languages (one of them is his that I am currently learning)Retarded 80 IQ pajeets can learn new languages, that's not a marker of intelligence, and becoming fluent is just a matter of effort.>am always very knowledgeable about whatever we are discussing. I feel under looked atKnowledge != intelligence.
>>84903340>I work with people who picked up new languages in adult years and become certified translators. Yeah, you worked with people who learned a language for money. I think this is a bit different.
>>84903108Him saying he is smarter than you is not disrespect? Unless you wanted him to lie to appeal to your feelings instead. You can be smarter than someone but respect them. the fuck?
>>84903349>Yeah, you worked with people who learned a language for moneyI have a Slavic friend who taught himself Italian just for fun, and he's now moving onto Spanish, also just for fun. I have an efriend who learned Chinese for purely gooner reasons, and who speaks it at a high enough level that he can do business in Chinese now. Another learned Japanese just for VNs. Another is currently in the process of learning Farsi for her bf, and she already speaks better Farsi than he does English.I'm not saying learning a language takes no effort, I just don't like that people mystify it and make it like some Sisyphean task. It just creates distance between cultures for no reason.
>>84903042Why do you think you are smarter than him?
>>84903532I dont I view him as being a intellectual equal
>>84903574That's how we and he knows you are not smarter than him. You live in delusion.
>>84903042Do you have some achievments that show really outstanding intelligence? If not why would you be so offended? If anything it seems you think your husband is dumb if you are offended by him being smarter.
>>84903696I have a degree as mentioned and no I think he is an intelligent great man but we are equal
>>84903710def not equal and when you realize that you will grow.
>>84903042everyone even retards think theyre geniuses. if the relationship isnt going well then get outta there
You're asking a dumb question. maybe it doesn't translate well.you're asking him if he's smarter than you which you're interpreting as does he think he's better than you.Male brains are simply better at a lot of spatial and logical reasoning challenges because of how it's structured, but female brains are structured more for understanding relationships.So you should just accept that he stated a fact because it was logical but it doesn't mean he thinks he's better than you.We have complimentary traits.
>>84903042You were probably only attracted to him because he was smarter than you. So why get mad that he is?
>>84903042My wife is smarter than me by a lot. She has an IQ 150+, mine is about 95. I hit the lottery.
>>84904012>>84903986My wife legitimately outsources her thinking to me regularly. She's not even "stupid", she just knows that I am significantly smarter than her and probably everybody else she knows. Even the smartest women I have dated, met and fucked have absolutely collapsed when it comes to critical/rational thinking and very quickly regress into emotional thinking and prescriptions.
>>84903042I thought most women want their man to be a bit smarter?
>>84904029Women are negatively attracted to intelligence. They are primarily attracted to Dark Triad traits, followed by height. That's about it. A woman wants a domineering sex daddy who says:>It's okay baby girl look what you made me doIn his super deep voice while choking her with a piano wire.
>>84903986I did and still do find his intelligence attractive yes but that wasnt the main reason I fell in love>>84904012This is sweet I hope you have a long healthy marriage >>84904025I do not want to be treated like a child or dumb myself down by "outsourcing my thinking" I can think and make decisions for myself, the only time I ever out source to him is when we need to speak in public only because again a language difference, I speak on his behalf when we visit my home country
>>84903150>I thought he viewed me as equalAs in, there are some things you do better, there are some things he does better. All things being equal, nobody is exactly the same.
>>84904050I mean with intelligence specifically. Now I feel a need to prove myself and I feel even worse about being unemployed
>>84904044There's nothing wrong with admitting you aren't as smart as somebody else, or that somebody else is better at thinking that yourself. You aren't "dumbing yourself down" or "infantilising yourself " when you see a doctor. Some people are smarter than others. There are far fewer female morons than male morons, statistically, but also far fewer geniuses (from the data I have seen).
Why must you feel equal? Genuine question. What is the inherent value of equality? And mind you, we're not talking about rights here.I'll simply suggest you have a fragile ego and can't handle having your views on yourself challenged. But you're also a woman so I don't blame you.
>>84904057Is he taller than you? Do you feel the need to wear stilts 24/7?
>>84904061>>84904071I think its also in part a need to prove myself because for whatever reason there are still stupid stereotypes about people of my ethnicity/nationality within people our age here with the addition of being a woman. I feel like women always feel a need to prove ourselves, its why if you do mixed gender sports women can be more aggressive or competitive >>84904074I guess this is a fair point
>>84904094If you want to exploit the skill that he will never have, start making babies.
>>84904094But think about it, if he treats you with love and care and kindness, then what is he doing wrong?Isn't it that you're projecting onto him your insecurities that in fact have nothing to do with him or the situation?If you're able to actually verbalise this and take responsibility for your own feelings without acting out or externalizing it he'll very much appreciate it. It'll also be something he can work with.But if you're just gonna dig yourself deeper into your own insecurities and make it his problem and blame him you'll both grow incredibly resentful and it's just fucked.Your call
My bf said some similar sexist shit like that to me a few weeks ago but more tame (that it's less of a big deal for a woman to be unemployed). I plainly told him he can't talk to me like one of his little incel buddies (he is the only one of his group with a gf) and I'm a lady and deserve to be treated with respect, I don't want to hear andrew tate shit in my house. He apologized and understands now. And honestly dude doesn't even vote and treats me properly so I don't really give a fuck. He admitted he hates when I say mean shit against men too much so I've toned that down as well I can see how it'd be grating in the reverse. I save it for the freaks on here kek
>>84904158I get this is bait but it's fascinating projection regardless. Assuming that a man thinking he is smarter than (You) as an individual means that he thinks men are smarter than women or that he thinks he is smarter than all women is deeply narcissistic.
>>84904158Poor guy's spiritually gelded. I really hope he can shake it off. Maybe one of his friends can help.Pussy isn't worth that much nagging. I always bail once I see the signs of it approaching. And then they come crawling but you can't give in In any case, you're fucked in the head lol
>>84904196>don't talk like that around me please>no problem love you>love you tooNot everyone is a neurotic weirdo like you. I was raised in a loving home with parents that never called each other names or got nasty
>>84904205Holding a festering resentment towards/about an immutable aspect of your partner is pretty unhealthy.
>>84904205And that precludes you from pathology? Hello? lmaoI've had loving relationships with easy communication. But most women love to nag. And all women shit test.What's with the stereotyped assumptions honey
>>84904205Tyranny generally is more peaceful than freedom, yeah. You already know that though, you're dating a guy you kind of think of as a loser specifically because you know men with more options wouldn't put up with your shit
>>84904158>>it's less of a big deal for a woman to be unemployed>"I'm a lady and deserve to be treated with respect"You're a bitch and you deserve to be treated with scorn. I told my wife the same thing and she felt relief. Who wants to actually work??
>>84904158>(that it's less of a big deal for a woman to be unemployed)That's not wrong, both in the sense of how consequential it is, and in the sense of how potentially problematic it is. Like it or not, society places more of an expectation on men when it comes to employment, plus reproducing women (the women that need the most special attention) come with a mandatory de facto unemployment period during pregnancy, and a possibly completely justified unemployment period during the child's early years.If you live in a society where nuclear families are the dominant structure, that's just how it is, so I don't think he was wrong even if you don't like the sentiment behind it.
>>84904132I can try talking to him when he is home from work>>84904158Yea I knew he was kinda chuddy (voted his countries far right party which did upset me a lot) but he was never sexist so I was taken surpised. He is completely fine with me saying shit about men and even agrees with me at times so im not sure where this came from. My main worry is he is hiding more thoughts like this. >>84904237I do. A lot of women do. Not everyone is employed by choice. I feel like house wife bang maid was an American phenomenon women from my country have always been involved
>>84904258Ok read my post again. I'm not telling you to just talk to him. I'm telling you to own your feelings, take responsibility and analyse them from a higher vantage point and have him reason alongside you.If you wanna be equal, yeah, then I suggest try starting there. If you want him to meet you in your feminine experience of emotion you must meet him where he moves too. I'm arguing from your own position.If you just accuse him of belittling you or if you dictate terms to him like that other little retard in thus thread you won't get what you want. Either he'll grow resentful over time and leave/cheat or you'll pussify him and eventually you'll lose attraction. In your bones you know this.
>>84904258>house wife bang maidWould be nice, but both you and I know that it never worked that way. It's always been "the husband does everything"
>>84903198Biggest truthnuke I've seen here in a while. Women want strong, confident, independent man and then get sad when the men in question think of themselves as a smarter one on a relationship. You literally chose this, make up your mind.
>>84903184>The only way in which men are superior to women is physicallyFunny joke.
>>84904037That's dumb. They actually want to be choked by a belt, it won't break the skin and make a mess.
>>84904630Using a belt absolutely leaves marks lol
>>84903042Men spend their entire lives looking for an equal, realize it doesn't exist, then settle for dumb fucks like youNext
>>84903042if he wasn't smarter than you, you wouldn't have dated him. Women filter for a 20th percentile of men Ms. Genius. It's called survivorship bias. You wouldn't like a relationship with a guy who wasn't better than you. You'd be freaking out, having to mother him all day, and he'd scream and break shit. Power is overrated.
>>84904662Marks don't drip and stain the carpet like blood
People who say they're smart or want to show others how smart they are , are never that smart. Hope you know that most women including you are 90iq midwits.
>>84904711He was obviously joking lol, though I will tell you they do goon to the idea of being garotted
>>84903042counterpoint: what have you done to prove that you are "smarter than him"? list both of your collective accomplishments here, and we will judge who is actually smarter. ready go.
>>84904630>Porn addict who has never been with a woman>>84904737I never said smarter just equal
>>84904937It's so emblematic you don't reply to the actual solutions you drama queen. I hope for him he dumps your ass so he needn't suffer this shit any longer
>>84904937whyyyyyy would you ask "do you think you are smarter" when you were hoping for "we are equal" answer. Tsk tsk, such a scummy thing to do. You and your games, they will eventually play you
Would you also get mad if he thought he was taller than you?
>>84904998Luckily we wont because he loves me more than anythingMarriage isnt like just a break up >>84905076Well he is it is an objective fact while this is not
>>84905085No, you're actually a rage baiting tranny. ywnbawThread concluded
>>84903042You were stupid enough to ask that question so I'm inclined to agree with your husband.Accept that you're stupid and move on with life you dumb bitch.
>>84904258>he was never sexist>He is completely fine with me saying shit about men and even agrees with me at times
>>84903224>men are better than women because ughhh..DARTS!OP doing her best to demonstrate just how stupid she is by completely missing the point of bringing up competitions where physicality doesn't matter.Your husband is 100% right and you should learn some humility.
>>84904044"My wife is smarter than me.">This is sweet I hope you have a long healthy marriage"I'm smarter than my wife.">I do not want to be treated like a child or dumb myself down by "outsourcing my thinking"Stupid foid got her ego bruised. You are so used to be coddled that just the thought of a man being superior to a woman irks you while the opposite is "sweet".
>>84903042>Girlfriend constantly says she's dumber than me or too stupid for me then freaks out because she realizes can't control me through manipulation.God it's so tiring. I'm starting to wish I had a smarter GF. Not because it matters, just because I'm tired of her trying to assert herself in the dumbest, most irritating ways that I'm not going to reward by playing along with. It's just too much drama.
>>84903042>ask a question>get an answer>seetheYou sound dumb, I agree with him.
>>84903211It's biology.
>>84904158>>84904250I was thinking along the lines of this. He's not wrong since woman are viewed as property in this world. It creates woman who are dependent on men. Which is a negative thing. His sentiment is true but I would've probed a bit more before you said it was an Andrew Tate thing. Do you want an obedient boy or a good man?
>>84905422Why even assume she'll engage with you in good faith? She'll only try to farm vaginal izzat
>>84905422It's not about being obedient it's just about respect. I don't want a doormat or a guy that thinks he can say shitty things around me. I don't view him as my op he's the love of my life and we both just want harmony. I compromise towards him as well and can admit when I'm wrong, just a few days ago I apologized to him for getting too angry at him saying something I felt that wasn't true. I've learned sometimes just taking a few hours or a day to come back to discussion is better, it is often about me feeling misunderstood and not about the actual argument itself and I get what he meant by what he said. I just think in more absolutes. Doesn't help our place is awfully small so it's just grating on each other from too much proximity sometimes. We are taking more time for our friends and senpai without being so shoved up more and it's helping
>>84905490Ohh so you're BPD got it
>>84905510Just more direct and my bf is more sensitive, it's a yin yang thing
>>84905580No, you've found your bitchboy to parasite off of. I will pray for him.Be honest, in your worst fights how far have you gone?
>>84903042desu OP, no. men can have humility while also viewing you as intelligent but they'll never really view you on the same intellectual standing as them, which isnt a problem so long as he is ACTUALLY more intelligent than you. because even literal knuckle-dragging ogres have been sold this lie since they were born that men are more intelligent than women and therefore think this applies to them, id be pissed to have a midwit/retard bf who thinks he's smarter than me. from the sounds of things, you dont actually think your bf is more intelligent than you which will be a problem for you both in the long run.
>>84905592I think the angriest I ever got at him was about a year ago, grief can make people say some crazy shit. He knew he lowkey deserved it so he forgave me. I'm actually pretty merciful
>>84905626Oh dear oh dear he's lost.
>>84905490But did he say anything disrespectful? Probe for intent before correcting. I get that patience gets a little thin at times but you want to try and lower the corrections since it does affect confidence in the long run.
>>84905602>but they'll never really view you on the same intellectual standing as them,False.I've met several women MUCH smarter than me. Every last one of them autistic, of course. Made me feel pretty stupid at times but oh well, if that's a problem for me I can always just read some more books, can't I? If anything feeling stupid is just motivation to improve and engage with more intellectual material, the same way feeling weak is motivation to work out. And honestly some of the best, most engaging conversations I've had in my life. I love women that are smarter than me. They make me feel engaged and just being around them pushes me to improve. Feels like I'm my best self whenever I'm around one.
>>84903283go learn chinese dude and see how that goes for you. I guarantee that it will take more than a "modicum of effort".
>>84903042>Do any men ever see you as an equal?why would we? look at your own pic, retard
>>84903108you should fix your problems instead of posting YET ANOTHER thread you dumb foid.and yeah you're stupid, as evidenced by your interactions in the other threads
>>84906213Yeah that anon is talking about lower class attitudes. That said, women are on average a bit less intelligent and predisposed to emotional reasoning and blind spots. You yourself take it as a given a woman has to be autistic to be highly intelligent.
>>84907428You don't understand, I have to be able to suck off chad without kneeling
>>84907428>>84908261These are cartoon animals
>>84903986>>84904025Modern women constantly seek to castrate men and bring them down to their level.When they get want they want, they lose attraction and leave the man because he "changed" and wonder what went wrong.
>>84903042They really don't. Not if they think you are theirs, that much I know for certain. I would leave if I were you.
>anglet of the nozzle>turpentine hazmat costume in bridal bed
>>84906213i think you are a small minority of men but i am glad anon >>84907890>women are on average a bit less intelligentno, we're not.
>>84908559ok now you're trolling. please explain the graph
>>84908984the graph quite literally shows that the average man and woman both are of same intelligence, the only difference is the spread of intelligence. so what this means my midwit moid friend, is that more male geniuses also comes with more male idiots, the peak (the average) stays in the same place.
>>84909041midwit doesn't mean what you think it means, dummy
>>84909139>midwit (plural midwits) (neologism, chiefly Internet slang, mildly derogatory) A person of middling intellect; someone who is neither particularly dull nor particularly smart, especially if they act as though they are smarter than they are.
Not a single person in this thread has actually asked about the husbands intelligence. This guy could be a drooling chud but you just assume he's smarter than her.
>>84909256If shes dumb enough to move countries for a retard that just means she's also a retard
>>84909283Then they'd be just as smart as eachother kek.
>>84909194blow me, it's about 115-125
>>84909344is that why you needed me to explain a graph to you?
>>84909414let this be an exercise lol
>>84903042I have no clue why you care, since it is only his opinion and not a fact.
>>84909139Yeah midwit does not apply here, you're just outright retarded. Imagine not understanding a normal distribution. You're on the left side of the curve for sure