When did you realize Christian ethics are absurd?
>>8491743020 years ago on the reddit frontpage
>>84917430Christian or biblical ethics? two different things.
>>84917497They are different things but Im not sure what you mean specifically because a Christian is also obligated to defend Biblical ethics because the Bible is the word of God
>>84917430Its funny that cuckstianity in the west has largely become exactly what it says not to become
>>84917430Like 1994 or so. They don't hide how ridiculous their morality is.>just follow the magic bookYeah, but that book says to murder children for disobedience.>no it doesn't, god didn't mean that partSo which parts did god mean?>all of them, except the one about murdering childrenSo the stuff about sacrificing live animals on Yahweh's altar is serious?>no, not that either. Hey, listen just do what we tell you to do and don't read our book and don't listen to the words of our prophet because it's all crazy and stupid. OK?Or howabout I just elect to ignore your schizophrenic nonsense altogether and be happy?
>>84917516>because a Christian is also obligated to defend Biblical ethicsNot at all, there is many (if not a majority scholarly consensus) which don't do that.Its not something a Christian needs to hold to
>>84917430Thought you said Christian ethnics
>>84917570Thats not correct. A Christian believes the Bible is Gods word. Not defending the Bible means you wont defend Gods word
>>84917430probably in my early 20s at the tail end of my /christian/ phase. there is a lot of beauty to be found in christian theology and mysticism but at the end of the day, its just not something available, or even preferable to a modern person. christian ethics are only expedient in a specific type of insulated, culturally and ethnically homogeneous society that doesnt exist anymore. also a lot of it is just semitic garbage
>>84917586>its just not something available, or even preferable to a modern persona modern person is an absolute degenerate
>>84917594>a modern person is an absolute degenerateyes. the human race have collectively opened the floodgates of technology and unbridled hedonism to the extend that the ideal pure christian is an impossibility. you can cope all you want and listen to however many gigachad gregorian chants compilations on youtube, but at the end of the day, the prerequisites for a christian society is lost to time. whether thats a positive or negative depends on which perspective you have
>>84917582>Thats not correct.Kevin CarnahanDr. Peter EnnsMatthew VinesDr. David P. GusheeJohn HamerDan McClellanetcthe Bible is a human conversation about God, which does not fuck up its truth metaphysical truth value but changes how it should be defended.This is the nuanced/scholarly view
>>84917621>its truth metaphysical truth valueits metaphysical truth value*
>>849176182 Timothy 3:1-5: Paul warns Timothy that the end times will bring "terrible times". He prophesies that people will be "lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God," alongside traits like being boastful, arrogant, without self-control, and unloving.
>>84917644::TRIGGER WARNING::its not real
>>84917674::TRIGGER WARNING::I think it might be real
>>84917644The good things in life(anything that gives pleasure) is in competition with God. Odd.
>>84917812>getting married to a loving wife and having children and raising a family and eating a reasonable amount of good food and not being constantly angry and prideful and envious provides no pleasureyou are literally insane
>>84917889>getting married to a loving wife and having children and raising a family and eating a reasonable amount of good foodUh, that's not what Christianity and believing in God is about. Look at Japan, China etc they also do that without being worshipping and obeying Yahweh.
>>84917430What exactly is absurd about it?
>>84917911okay, and your claim "all the good thngs in life are in competition with God" was still the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.
>>84917516Only Biblical literalists believe the Bible is the direct word of God. The rest of us believe the Bible is the word of men who are influenced by God but who make mistakes because those men are not God.>hurr if God is influencing you then you won't make mistakes4chan might be the wrong website to discuss this, but part of the beauty of the Old Testament is how explicit it is that God's chosen prophets and leaders will continue to make mistakes because all men are fallible.
>>84917919Historically true, don't self flagellate and feel guilt anon.
>>84917430lol>>84917621The Bible was also compiled centuries after the main point of Christianity occurred which was the death and resurrection of Christ. It's obviously considered divinely inspired, but I think anon is confusing it with other similar prophet religions
>>84917978You agree the Bible has errors. NowIs the Church infallible?
>>84917919He's deliberately wasting your time
>>84917997No church is infallible, according to my own opinion which is not everyone's opinion. Are you looking for a conversation or are you looking for a Gotcha?
>>84917812NTA but they would just tell you that God made the pleasures Making an idol out of a specific pleasure and taking it in quantity that exceeds its function is probably not the correct purpose of it COULD BE WRONG though as I don't know what I'm talking about
>>84918006Are you even a Christian?
>>84918062Agnostic.I like God, I hope God is real.I like Christ, I hope Christ is real.I like the Bible, I don't read it literally.
>>84917430Freshman year of college
>>84917889You think Christians invented that or something? What a bizzare thing to say
>>84918062What's a Christian?
>>84918044Christians misinterpretation of hedonism and nihilism is so damn common but yeah that's a pretty simple shortcut
>>84918352I'm not gonna lie I'm a fairly adequate speaker of English myself, I'm not that exceptional and all, but I have zero clue what you just said. From all angles ITT this post is genuinely impossible to comprehend. It doesn't follow or make sense as an answer to what I said. It doesn't make any sense from the context of the other posts. You are quite literally gibbering incomprehensibly m8 are you alright?
>>84918479Eh dabs will do that, I basically skipped to the conclusion on that line of thought.
>>84918479>>84918502Also, not the anon you had originally responded to
