Women what do you find attractive about men? What turns you on the most?
>>84917676A good man. Like a good woman, they're hard to find. Social media has verifiably lowered out empathy as a collective, so finding someone who is in-tune with their emotions and that of others is a massive turn on, both platonically and romantically.
>>84917676Dark triad tendencies > height > face.
>>84917676Ayyo I like a nigga wit a big ole asshole, ya feel me dog? I get stuck in dat shiet fr, ya heard?
>>84917696i consider myself empathetic but this does not seem to help muchi'm terminally online though and only got in touch with some women on 4chan so
To make this fair we need an event where thousands of petite Asian and SEA girls come to somewhere
>>84917676nice voices, soft faces/facial features, soft spoke, glasses, good manners, when they know a lot about something i know nothing about, long-ish hair, but in a hot 2000s way, not an irish grandpa kinda way
>>84917698I find your ordering hard to believe that its correct would any women in the world really find it hot to be dominated by a dark traid fugly 5'6 indian man you probably meant to say height > face >>>> dark triad tendencies
>>84917712The Indian guy could easily land desperate and pathetic women, I have seen it playing out in real life. Women are attracted to Dark Triad tendencies above everything else. Being an extroverted psychopath overrides all other things. If you are average or even below average in every way, just being a psychopath will make you more attractive than a tall, handsome guy who ISN'T a psychopath.
In the states? Very tall (over 6ft) lean af, very pale. Nigger sized dick (but is actually white) laughs at his own jokes. Hates eating. Is funny alone. Black hair but looks like henry cavil. Hes a pale nigger lol he even is accepted by them
What actually is dark triad? Is it like just being a criminal retard? I went to prison for assault on my ex gf and she's trying to add me back on Facebook. I would actually think other women would find this UTTERLY repulsive and want nothing to do with me. I don't believe this dark triad nonsense. Women like kind men and "dark triad" basically just means tall. If a guy is tall a woman thinks "dark triad" because he can beat up other men. But me? I'm 5 foot 9 so I'm just like a runt retard. Or is it just confidence? Or being bold or something? I'm extremely high inhib, have serious problems with continued existence, take meds for mental problems and street drugs too. I feel like that is genuine dark triad. Like selling drugs, hurting your gf, going to prison. But thafs utterly repulsive to women lol. I'm pretty sure women just want tall men that are smarter than them and passionate about something. And if they show confidence all you incels are like omg they love dark triad. But true dark triad puts you in prison lol. It goes like this:Height/frame > face > confidence >little bit edgy (which incels mistake for dark triad)
>>84917712NTA but I think the best expression, which is hard to transcribe in text, is something like Height >= face (weighted to height) +/- Dark Triad Tendencies. So you have to be tall and having a handsome face helps but a man still needs those Dark Triad tendencies otherwise the formula is incomplete.
>>84917759>The Indian guy could easily land desperate and pathetic women, I have seen it playing out in real life. Women are attracted to Dark Triad tendencies above everything else. Being an extroverted psychopath overrides all other things. If you are average or even below average in every way, just being a psychopath will make you more attractive than a tall, handsome guy who ISN'T a psychopath.Completely wrong but okay. Studies show that being confident and 'dark triad' is only better than being a boring niceguy if you're in the top 20-30% of attractiveness. If you're fugly you're better off just having a normal personality, this is nuclear levels of cope and redpill delusion.
>>84917676Physically?>Wide back>Big arms and shoulders>Calloused hands>Body and facial hair and how hairy they are in general >Their voice>Their strength >Their frame>The way they talk>How they look at you>Their hands.>How oddly short their nails are, like its clipped all the way down and looks really weird but hot>Their smile>Their noses>their lips>their thick necks I just like men desu.Personality wise>how intense they are>listening to them talk>how passionate they are>i like it when they ask nicely and are welk mannered, its so cute >their face when they get exited>i like it when they're thankful and appreciative >when they are eager to help>when they get shy and nervous >when they geek out>when they are principled yet forgiving>strong character and values>generous and helping to others>make people feel safe around them>when they are well read and intellectual>when they are eager to teach >when they trust me so much that they confide in meThe list goes on and on and on I'll stop here.If you cant tell, i like em with a strong exterior but a soft heart.
>>84917778>But thafs utterly repulsive to women loland yet she's trying to add you back on facebook
>>84917785I will just point at Destiny as an example. Even before he was famous, he was fucking hot edgy BPD sluts, because he's a low inhibition, ADHD afflicted psychopath. In my own life I knew an ugly, chubby Pajeet from the Maldives who regularly fucked cute university chicks because, again, he had zero inhibitions and was a narcissist with entry level manipulation skills.Women just adore evil.
>>84917769>talldisgusting bigger lover
>>84917782Yeah this is the formula backed up by science the attraction/personality gradient according to studies is:physically attractive dark triad chad > autistic nice guy 10/10 chad >>>>> normal boring sub 7 > dark triad balding 5'2 indian janitorPersonality effect is just a halo confidence and assertiveness are usually viewed as arrogance, overconfidence and aggressiveness if you're unattractive.
>>84917788first of all check'dsecond of all this is the first post like this I've ever seen that actually seems to be describing a man and not some psychopathic twink, so I'm not entirely convinced it's real
>>84917778>Women like kind menThere are studies that show that, to women, kindness has no weight with regards to attraction. It's a non-factor. Women like domineering narcissists.
>>84917676Imagine if a man said that to a social media audience of millions when a bunch of Asian women were in town for something. White foids would lose their fucking minds.
>>84917788>>make people feel safe around themexamples of this?
>>84917803Destiny is so ugly and deformed he gets the freak card where under a certain unattractiveness threshold it allows you to garner attention and fetishists. Most importantly he is not dark triad in any capacity whatsoever, he is a leftist women respecting betaboy cuck, not really 'dark triad' or dark in any capacity whatsoever. And he wasn't slaying pussy left and right by any chad standards he had some low quality methhead chicks he would fuck as you said desperate women but his SMV was still at the end very low compared to even a normal or even slightly autistic 10/10 (until he became famous ofc).
>>84917809You got those funny clipped nails? How do you even get those i dont understand. Its like every dude is just born with em.If you checked then congrats youre hot>I'm not entirely convinced it's realIts real desu.
>>84917836I was mainly thinking kids and that youre a trustable adult and good with kids in general. But other examples is this is say youre on a date and the girl is drunk, you'd not take advantage of her. If you see some kid alone in the park you keep an eye out. If someone is visibly shaken you try to calm them down and stay by their side. Being the friend you want to have kinda thing.
>>84917778The dark triad shit only attracts mentally ill women. Plenty of studies on this. There are men who have no idea what they're talking about just spewing easily disprovable bullshit.
>>84917816>There are studies that show that, to women, kindness has no weight with regards to attraction.Source? Because I can't find any studies that support this, but I can find the opposite.
>>84917899https://www.newsweek.com/study-finds-men-nice-women-not-other-way-around-261269Kindness is usually strongly inversely correlated with attractiveness in men. This should be considered a no brainer, since its generally perceived as a 'feminine' trait and the core of sexual and romantic attraction is polarity and dimorphism.
>>84917888Exactly. Most of the guys in prison had gfs/wives etc but they were fucking nutcases. In the visiting room you'd see these women and not gonna lie some of them were hot as fuck but they were absolutely insane. Moody, jealous, hardcore drug users. One was like a well known high level meth dealer in my city fuck knows how she even gets visits. Its just crazy bitches attracted to these types. Who cares what they want? You want a nice stable normal gf.
>>84917676I love men when they are not fatthank you
>>84917788this is literally methese are all the things my girlfriend likes about meyou aren't my girlfriend are you?
>>84917769>accepted by themWiggerlover summarily dismissed
>>84917929Im not your girlfriend but she is most certainly a lucky girl!
>>84917974she types with exclamation points too..what do you do for work?
>>84917988>she types with exclamation points too..Holy shit bro, does she breathe oxygen as well?
>>84917998yeah she does why do you ask?
>>84917988My work is very odd bro. No way your girl works there.
>>84917769>hates eating>tallYou need food to grow
>>84918020okay just making sure. it just seemed odd that you said all the things my girlfriend does. sorry I got so suspicious
>>84917676>what do you find attractive about men? What turns you on the most?This
I don't know if you actually read the study, but that is not what it is saying.The source for that article was specifically about initial encounters with strangers, and the authors themselves flagged the limitation explicitly. The lead researcher stated: "Our findings show that this does not necessarily hold true in an initial encounter, because a responsive potential partner may convey opposite meanings to different people."The study was about responsiveness in a brief meeting with a stranger, not kindness in general, and the authors proposed women may have read a very responsive stranger as potentially manipulative or eager to please, not that kindness itself is unattractive.Here are a bunch of sources and their findings that show to opposite of what you're arguing.Across larger and more cross-culturally robust studies, kindness is the most valued trait women prefer in men.A 2023 study published in Human Nature surveyed 17,254 single heterosexual women across 147 countries and found "kindness-supportiveness" to be the most valued trait in a long-term partner, ranking higher than physical attractiveness, financial status, and emotional stability.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37749460/Additional research found that women not only prefer kind men, but perceive kind men as more intelligent, and that women rated angry men as less intelligent, which negatively predicted relationship satisfaction for both partners.https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/14747049241275706A separate environmental-manipulation study found that across scenarios, intelligence was rated most important by participants overall, followed directly by kindness, and that kindness was described as "essential to both sexes."https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3771886/
>>84918034Dont worry :)Youre just looking out for your darling and makin sure she is safe on these dubious websites, like any gentleman would.
>>84918098How many times have we had this retarded debate? Long term relationship outlooks or things like emotional maturity which help you in actually keeping a relationship has nothing to do with physical attraction. Initial attraction is all physical attraction and superficial personality traits and this is all that really matters for most incels since they are struggling to GET relationships, not keep them.
>>84918098>>84917909Research on altruism and mate preference found that women preferred altruistic men particularly in long-term relationships, and that altruism interacted with physical attractiveness such that being both attractive and altruistic made a man more desirable than the sum of the two traits alone.https://www.researchgate.net/publication/290137773_Are_Women's_Mate_Preferences_for_Altruism_Also_Influenced_by_Physical_AttractivenessA peer-reviewed study found that an ethical reputation enhanced ratings of long-term mating attractiveness, prestige, and perceived intelligence, and that "the consistent finding that women favor altruism in long-term relationships is interpreted as evidence of selection for good parental and partner qualities."https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12219911/Further, research shows that women preferred altruistic men over physically attractive ones when evaluating long-term partners.https://eprints.worc.ac.uk/12506/5/Skilton%20%20Farrelly%20_accepted.pdfThe claim that kindness is "feminine" and that dimorphism drives attraction predicts women should prefer highly masculine men. The research consistently shows the opposite for long-term attraction.Studies show that more masculine faces are perceived as less warm, emotional, honest, and cooperative, and as having poorer quality as a parent, and that women's preference for more feminine male faces may be an attempt to avoid those negative behavioral attributions.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10753340/Across-the-board research reports that increasing masculinity in face shape increases perceptions of dominance but decreases perceptions of warmth, emotionality, honesty, cooperativeness, and quality as a parent, while those "socially valued" traits are specifically associated with feminized male faces.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3130383/
>>84918123An experimental study found that feminized male faces were rated higher in attractiveness, warmth, and competence, and that the supposed link between masculinity and high competence perception doesn't hold up under controlled conditions.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9169590/The argument also treats "polarity" as a natural law when it's actually a hypothesis with mixed support. The idea that sexual attraction requires maximum dimorphism is not what the data shows. Women don't consistently prefer the most masculine men, they show highly context-dependent preferences that shift based on relationship type, environment, and what traits are being signaled.The Newsweek study is specifically about stranger responsiveness in a lab setting, explicitly flagged by its own authors as not generalizing. The larger cross-cultural literature consistently finds kindness and altruism are top-ranked traits for women evaluating long-term partners. The polarity hypothesis actually predicts women should love hypermasculine men, but the research shows those men are perceived as less cooperative, less honest, and worse parents, making them less attractive for committed relationships, which is what most people are actually selecting for.
>>84918121>Kindness is usually strongly inversely correlated with attractiveness in menThis is what you said and you're just flat out wrong about it.
>>84918153No, I'm not. Attractive means its easier to get relationships (the only bottleneck stat that matters). No one can see kindness in 30s. Obviously if you get to know to someone over 5 years then being an asshole vs normal adjusted human being will pull through, but most people who are ugly will never get a chance to prove themselves because their 'resume' didn't make it through the filter. You clearly misunderstand the scope of attractiveness is.
>>84918104where is your boyfriend then?
>>84917998Lmfao same shit I was thinking
>>84918187she usually ends sentences with exclamation points if she's responding to me directly about something I said. it's not that common. I don't see other women typing like that. mind your own business
>>84918198Does she reply to you in English, with characters from the Latin alphabet???
>>84918185I have none. My games keep me company for the time being.
>>84918198Every woman does that. It's supposed to make them seem friendly and engaging. I see it when I email women from school or in class discussion boards.
>>84918173You've abandoned the original claim and moved the goalposts. The original argument was that kindness is inversely correlated with attractiveness. Now you're saying something different: physical attractiveness determines access; kindness is irrelevant at the filter stage.I am going to argue against this for anyone who may be reading, even thought we've tried to hash this out before and got nowhere. Here's a continuation in your voice:The "30 second filter" model assumes that what people say they want in a hypothetical partner reflects how they actually respond to real people in front of them. It doesn't.Eastwick and Finkel (2008) tested this directly using speed dating, where participants reported their stated preferences before meeting anyone and then rated actual attraction after brief live interactions. Stated preferences were not correlated with in-vivo preferences. The sex differences that show up reliably when people rate hypothetical partners, men prioritizing looks, women prioritizing resources, virtually disappeared when they were reporting on flesh-and-blood people they had just met. The filter is leakier than the model requires, and it starts leaking the moment two people are actually in the same room.This has been replicated. A direct replication with 307 participants using the same speed-dating methodology found the same disconnect between stated and actual preferences in live interaction.The "resume doesn't make it through the filter" framing also smuggles in a premise, that initial physical screening is the only access point to relationships. Most relationship formation happens through repeated exposure in shared contexts: workplaces, friend groups, classes. Personality becomes visible fast in those environments, and it compounds over time in ways a cold approach never allows.The original claim was that kindness is inversely correlated with attractiveness. Even on the new terms, the evidence doesn't hold.
>>84917696>A good man.>translation: a 6' tony stark look-a-like steriodfag who makes at least $100k a month, owns multiple rich people cars, and will enable whatever retarded bullshit i do and then call anyone who calls me out a sexist because I'm special
>>84918234>The "resume doesn't make it through the filter" framing also smuggles in a premise, that initial physical screening is the only access point to relationships.Yes it is, it is the bottleneck at which relationships happen. You're the one shifting goalposts and redefining 'attractiveness' and muddying it with other things and general compatibility, emotional maturity etc which have NO BEARING based on science whether a relationship will happen or not, the things you're talking about are about the factors of whether a relationship will be successful or not. You can be friends with a woman and spend as much time with her as you like, but if she's like 95% of women under 30 then if she doesn't find you attractive then no matter how great of a guy you are you'll always be forever stuck in the friendzone, this is really basic shit we guys have known for the last 100 year and seen all our lives, its almost like the latter is as abundant as oxygen whilst the former is what is actually rare for women and is what they seek.And yes, access to relationships over ability to retain relationships is absolutely the bottleneck and massively increased difficulty in the former is what is causing the incel epidemic (60% of men under 30 being single vs 30% of women) rather than a hysterical supposed made up catastrophe in male emotional quality in the last 5-10 years. The exact same thing as employment. If incels had access to relationships they would try, fail fuck up learn and grow like every gonk who isn't fugly or normal average men in the past did and were allowed to do.For men getting relationships where the girl actually likes you and doesn't just see you as a chore or wallet relatively (attracted to you) is the hard part and if they have the first part done for most non-retards the second part is usually just a matter or trial and error and relatively trivial.
