Anyone else agree with the economic principles of Communism but hate the horrific things done by leaders such as Stalin and Mao? Idk, is it really so unreasonable to want to end exploitation and provide everyone with free healthcare, housing, food, education, etc while also being against mass executions and gulags
>>84921839>end exploitation and provide everyone with free healthcare, housing, food, education, etcIt's hilarious that you don't see the irony here.
>>84921839>Erm, what if everything was just free broWow, genius. Turns out the only way to get people to do anything when there's no benefit to them whatsoever is to threaten to kill them.
>>84921839all of it is stupid, end of
>>84921839>want to end exploitation and provide everyone with free healthcare, housing, food, education, etcYou should read "Economic Calculation in the Socialist Commonwealth" to understand just one of the many reasons this does not work. Like, it's a great fantasy that everything could be free, but that's all it is.
>>84921839Nope, the so-called "economic" principles are even more horrid than the atrocities because it's and ideology of enslavement to inferior, weak, stupid people, which is pretty fucking evil.Either way it doesn't really matter because it's just a system used by jews to rob and the genocide population of a country. It has never and can never be used for anything else, because that's what it was designed for.
>>84921839you have no understanding of what socialism is (its not free stuff) and believe all the propaganda about stalin and mao. just support a green party or something instead
I love communism and democracyI vote for OP and his family to work for free and send all the profit to me and my familyWe have more voters so we win ;^) Yay!
>>84921839Fascism is the ultimate form of governance and has historically led to rapid industrialization, militarization, and scientific development. Christians will cause it the antichrist, but a single fascist ruler that dominates the world will lead to the ascendance of humanity.t. Italy, Germany, Japan, the powerhouses of industry for the last century.
>>84921839yeah this is a pretty lukewarm lefty take anon lol. like 50% of zoomers agree with you
>>84921850The people who are working to provide those things will not be exploited, because they receive the benefits of other peoples labour, just as others receive the benefits of theirs. But I'm sure you're happy salving away just to make some billionaire even richer, you brainwashed drone.>>84921858>no benefit whatsoeverLiving in a sage, clean, high trust society that has eliminated things like poverty, theft and petty crime isn't a benefit? You want the streets to be filled wish shit and trash and be overflowing with criminals and drug addicts. Capitalism kills civilisation.
That's because you're a propagandized retard. First off things aren't "free" under communism, they are provided by the dictatorship of the proletariat via universal contributions. Also communism doesn't just mean everything's free, it simply means that proles are the ones in control of the fruits of their labour rather than the (((business class))). Secondly Stalin and Mao did nothing wrong, the vast majority of "deaths" attributed to them occured during famines which happen far more frequently under capitalist Russia/China, and anyone they did kill or send to prison deserved it (the US currently has a higher per capita prison population than the USSR or China did at their respective heights btw).
>>84921893>they receive the benefits of other peoples labour,Then it's not free retard
>>84921895>proles are the ones in control of the fruits of their labour>they are provided by the dictatorship of the proletariat???? The fuck are you smoking nigga?>occured during faminesAll famines are caused directly and deliberately by jews
>>84921839OP, if you demand that I "redistribute" my wealth to others, I demand that you redistribute your bussy and other holes to me for me to as I wish with. No, I will not take no for an answer, you either redistribute it or go to the gulag. That's it, those are your options.
Wow I'm being attacked from both sides. Rightoids hate me for daring to suggest that poor people don't deserve to starve in the street, and tankies hate me for daring to criticise Saint Stalin and Mao.
>DOES ANYONE ELSE WISH WE COULD GET FREE SHIT FOREVER AND IT WOULD NEVER CATCH UP TO US
>>84921895>capitalist Russia/ChinaRussia and China have never been capitalist, they were feudal prior to their respective revolutions. They're both more capitalist now than they've ever been.
>>84921839Communism is flawed in its core, because it ignores how people behave in duality, where good and evil are considered reality.Communism = forced altruism = paradox = utopia
>>84921925Stop samefagging and go back to tonguing Jeff Bezos's asshole.
>>84921922I agree that they don't deserve to starve in the streets, but I also understand that people can't always get what they deserve. You, for example, do deserve to starve in the streets, but you're not going to. And that's sad.
>>84921839hey op do you want to talk about this more on discord? I've been trying to find people with likeminded beliefs and I have some friends like you. no pressure though burner03379
>>84921839>Anyone else agree with the economic principles of Communism but hate the horrific things done by leaders such as Stalin and Mao?No. Why should I trust the government to be fairer to the people than corperations, when they're essentially just a corperation that uses militant force to get what they want?>Idk, is it really so unreasonable to want to end exploitation and provide everyone with free healthcare, housing, food, education, etc while also being against mass executions and gulagsUnironically yes. You're not thinking of people as ends, but as just means to their own pleasure and health. Utilitarinism is inherently self-contradictory. It does not acknowledge us as rational agents and ignores that it is itself yet another mere reason generated by us. The reasources should be owned by individuals, not the government. Capitalism fundamentally fucks itself over, but socialism even more so. What do you suppose would call in check the centralized power of the government that ensures reasources are optimally distributed? The individuals? Don't make me laugh. They're going straight to the gulag.
>>84921908It's very simple if you aren't an idiot.>communism means control of the working class>communist party represents the working class>outside capitalist forces seek to dismantle any worker's state the arises>a dictatorship of the working class is needed to prevent outside forces from dismembering any nascent communist state>thus the communist party distributing the productive forces of labour is the worker's controlling their means of production>>84921932Yes, you're correct, I should've said feudalism. Regardless, any famines that occured in the USSR or Maoist China occured far more often in the Qing Dynasty or Russian Empire.
>>84921839The ONLY thing that the "proletariat" needs to be thriving, happy, healthy, wealthy, and successful is a stable currency (preferably real money) that is not tampered with, and especially not printed infinitely by a privately owned money-printer controlled by jews. Yes, it's really that simple, and it fixes all problems in society and in the world. Any time that it has happened we have had extremely quick and lasting prosperity until jews use their golems to attack that country.You should be looking into becoming a Nazi and learning about Hitler, because he saved his people from exactly the problems you are describing and wanted to save everyone on Earth from them forever.
>>84921970>>communism means control of the working class>>communist party represents the working class>>outside capitalist forces seek to dismantle any worker's state the arises>>a dictatorship of the working class is needed to prevent outside forces from dismembering any nascent communist state>>thus the communist party distributing the productive forces of labour is the worker's controlling their means of productionFine I choose me as dictator and my friends and family as enforcers of the rules, we will have some special privileges but only to make sure that everyone follows the rules, other than that we are all in the same working class together. Follow me comrade and you can begin by donating 50% of your income directly to me instead of to your jewish government and Israel.
>>84921955I appreciate the offer. I won't take you up on it because I don't have a discord account due to being a socially awkward autist, but I really do appreciate the fact that you offered. Hope you have a good day anon.
>>84921970>any famines that occured in the USSR or Maoist China occured far more often in the Qing Dynasty or Russian Empire.This is simply not true. There has never been a famine on the scale of Mao's because feudal lords were not stupid enough to tell peasants to stop farming and start making steel or to start national campaigns to eliminate whole species that turned out to be important for pest control. You're saying what you want to be true, not what actually happened. The fragmentary nature of feudal power unironically prevented the kinds of mass famines seen in socialist nations because nobody with a bad idea had the power to see it implemented in every village nationwide.
>>84921955>>84921995OP just dodged getting groomed&trooned by a commie cult
>>84921998>the scale of Mao's because feudal lords were not stupid enough to tell peasants to stop farming and start making steel or to start national campaigns to eliminate whole species that turned out to be important for pest controlWho do you think told Mao that? Who do you think *invented* communism?You cannot bring up the concept of genocide without attributing it in the same sentence to jews.
Kill a commie 4 mommy!
>>84921839There are other types of communist ideology other than Bolshevism and its offshoots. You should look into anarcho-communism
>>84921992Except that's not how it works dipshit. In the USSR local Soviets (their word for worker's councils) that represented specific factories/farms/fisheries/mining facilities/etcetera would elect their local representatives. Those local representatives would then go up into a regional council which would then elect a representative for the region who would then go up all the way to the top of the Soviet politburo. At the top of the heirarchy, they would then elect the general secretary who would be the defacto leader of the country. The reason it's referred to as a dictatorship is because noncommunist parties are not allowed to run due to them wrecking and aligning with foreign capitalists over their countrymen, the workers still had local representation which goes up the bureaocracy to regional representation and finally national representation.>>84921998Untrue, let's look at the actual facts of the matter. In feudal China, famines were common and occured nearly annually, which were often smaller in their singular scope due to being regional, but added up over time a great deal. Whereas the last famine communist China had ever experienced happened during the Great Leap Forward, after which no famines have occured in China since. If you compare the scale of famines over time, China has beaten hunger, this can clearly be seen by poverty and food insecurity in China being nonexistent today compared to how destitute the country was under feudalism. Industrializing on a 5-year timscale was difficult, but the results of it pushed China into the stratosphere, quite literally so since they went from a rural backwater into a spacefaring nuclear nation.
>>84922033It's pretty settled science and philosophy that all forms of communism is just the attempted inversion of the natural order (impossible in reality), trying to make bad things good and good things bad. It's very, very hard to come up with something more evil than communism. Anyone who relates to it, or modern leftist ideas in general, is simply identifying with the weak and the inferior, and instead of choosing to better themselves or the world, chooses to make everyone equal by dragging everyone down to the lowest level possible. The wish to redefine the world so that losers are winners. It is competition through non-competition, the attempted triumph of the weak over the strong. Obviously, though, if that does succeed they will simply all die afterwards because they are weak and inferior.You can see why this line of thinking is EXTREMELY appealing to 90% of the normie NPC retards of the world, which is precisely why it's so prevalent, and precisely why the jews designed as such.
>>84922156Shut up you insufferable faggot dweeb
>>84921839Communism is exploitation by tyrannical state though.
>>84922164You do realize you are on the insufferable faggot dweeb website, right?If you are averse to intelligence and good logic maybe you need to go back to rebbit.
>>84922119>Except that's not how it works dipshit. In the USSR local Soviets (their word for worker's councils) that represented specific factories/farms/fisheries/mining facilities/etcetera would elect their local representatives. Those local representatives would then go up into a regional council which would then elect a representative for the region who would then go up all the way to the top of the Soviet politburo. At the top of the heirarchy, they would then elect the general secretary who would be the defacto leader of the country.And then the jews loot the entire country of its wealth, and then they genocide the population. And then they move on to the next country and attempt to do the same thing.No thanks, not for me. But I'd be happy to do it to Israel or Judeo-America and I'll be the general secretary. It will be democratic, of course, every man gets to vote, but they can only vote for me otherwise they must go to the gulag or die immediately.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_revolution_of_1918%E2%80%931919https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Civil_WarThreadly reminder that in the early 1900s, jewish terrorists tried to infiltrate, instill violent uprisings, take over and install jewish puppet communist leadership in most European countries with the final goal of Soviet-style genocide and looting.
>>84921839If communism was feasible then you wouldn't need communism because people would voluntarily donate all their money. Communism is not feasible without tyranny, and at that point you might as well have a monarchy.
>>84922287>people would voluntarily donate all their money.Which is exactly what happens in nationalist countries with a cohesive, motivated, and safe homogenous European population.All political systems 'work' when the population is white European, but National Socialism works the best.
>>84922119Lmao China stopped having famines when Deng Jiaoping opened their economy, they're a fascist state, not a socialist one.
>>84922164>s-shut upLmao triggered.
>>84922326LARPing about how China is awesome is so funny to me because they are unironically doing ethnic cleansing, colonialism, slavery, crazy wealth disparity, and a ton of other shit these people are supposed to be against. Shows what really matters to them.
>>84922119>>84922326China is Fascist/National Socialist/Capitalist. Love the government, hate the insectoid people.America and most of the West is Communist/crony-Capitalist.
>>84922271German socdems and their fascist lapdogs are literally the only reason we aren't living in a communist society rn
>>84922371>we aren't living in a communist society rnWe pretty much are, though.>56% of my income/hours of work goes towards taxes to pay for the debt incurred by my government through usury in a jewish ponzi scheme financial system, """welfare""", and sending money to Israel and other jewish wars, but there's nothing communist or socialist about this!! it's just half of my life as slavery!All taxation is obviously theft and we know who is doing the stealing. Anyone who goes against it gets shot. Hitler, Gadaffi, you know how the list goes
>thinks communists care about the economy
>>84921877It seems highly unstable. Germany and Japan were left smoking craters after their experiments with Fascism. And don't try to disconnect cause and effect. Fascist geopolitics lead to the outcome we all saw. Invading your neighbors and taking their stuff builds contempt. Sort of like how Cubas communist economics of seizing factories, expropriating mansions and canceling/not recognising government debt lead to a Cuba isolated from global trade and finance
>>84922439So much mental gymnastics to avoid the fact that jews forced the entire world to attack Germany because they had a functioning nation free from usury
>>84922439>Fascist geopolitics lead to the outcome we all saw. As in: fascists stood up to the jewish internationalists who tricked their golem army into suicide charging them to death
>>84922439>>84922459>>84922461Regardless of the details or who was in the wrong, I think that any honest man who were to take a loot at the state of the world today would much rather have lived in a timeline where Germany and Japan won. It's an obvious night-and-day difference between good and evil, and the evil side won. This goes double for all those Europeans who fought against Germany - which side do you think they would pick in retrospect, if they could? Absolute niggerjeethell dystopia and financial enslavement, or an alternative?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb_Y2oxBuh4
>>84922459>>84922461The Munich Agreement made the German conquest of the Sudatenland justified and internationally legal. The invasion of the rest of Czechoslovakia had no such pretext. The gold of Czechoslovakia was seized and their men and military material were incorporated into the German war machine. The Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia had conscription which lead to soldiers joining the Wehrmacht. If you kill and absorb your neighbors people might just pull out their guns and treat you like a zombie.
I would send you all to the gulag, there will be only gulags and galoshes in the lives of the peasants.
>>84922437>Reminder: Nazism is when mindlessly hateful misanthropes who were never negatively harmed by an outgroup in their lives make it illegal to be normal then rob/kill all successful people out of anti-social rancour and fantastical persecution. The nationalism and religion is all just window dressing
>>84921839>Anyone else agree with the economic principles of Communismno. The labor theory of value is wrong. After you realize that, the entire system becomes garbage.
>>84922599>The labor theory of value is wrong.>After you realize that, the entire system becomes garbage.Well then so does capitalism because Adam Smith believed in that too.
>>84922579>negatively harmedAs opposed to positively harmed, which is what it's called when jews do it to goyim. Be thankful for your destruction goy!!! 3000+ years of this one single group causing all of the problems in the world is just fantasy!
>>84922579Leftists and women love to take a meme and invert it, despite the edited version now no longer making sense at all.> Nazism is when mindlessly hateful misanthropesAverage IQ of nazis was like 130. Also making an intellectual for "hate" / "racism" is trivially easy.>who were never negatively harmed by an outgroup in their livesStill pretending anti-white hatred isn't a thing in 2026. Whatever fag.>make it illegal to be normal then rob/kill all successful peopleBut see that doesn't work because we want to kill degenerates, leftists, traitors, etc.>The nationalism and religion is all just window dressingNevermind the obvious fact that nazism is secular in nature did you really just say that the nationalism from nazis is window dressing? Incel hating foids are more in tune with reality than you.
>>84922629>3000+ years of this one single group causing all of the problems in the world is just fantasyYeah it is. Also thanks for conceding by omission that the nationalism and religion is just window dressing.
>>84922617>Well then so does capitalism because Adam Smith believed in that too.Yes, he did believe in it. I don't think Marx was retarded for believing in the LTV. The problem is that all of his system is highly reliant on this theory. Adam Smith isn't studied today because of his theory of value, but because he was the first to analyze the system in scientific terms instead of saying that "fate" was the reason rich people had money. Some of his insights about the process through which wealth is created are still appliable, even if the theory of value is wrong. The change to a subjective theory of value was a revolution in economics, which changed the understanding of how markets and choices work. It also made it so economics isn't about the study of the resources themselves, but the study of the DECISIONS that the participants make, how they make them, why, etc. Marx's theory is just a relic of the past. Interesting as a historical piece, but useless in today's reality.
>>84922674Merely a coincidence as per usual, I'm sure>>84922629>negatively harmedMother-child prostitution, bestiality-cannibalism-pedophile prostitution, and infinite poverty and misery is NOT harmful for the goy. Why? Because goyim are non-human cattle, they simply don't feel pain the same way the Chosenites do, so it's completely fine to have Weimar conditions for their holding pens. Anyone who has a negative opinion or even gets violent about this is simply being antisemitic and evil. Surely your 3rd grade Holly class taught you this.
>>84922674https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsions_and_exoduses_of_JewsIt's just a 5000000000000000000 page list of crazy coincidences where jews all did a bunch of evil shit every time, it's a random universe it can happen. Doesn't mean anything.
>>84921850>>84921858then how come we can provide people with free lawyers?
>>84922740The same way we get free everything else: someone pays for it (you).
>>84922662>Nevermind the obvious fact that nazism is secular in natureYou're insane. Nazis believe that there are metaphysical elements to race. That blood carries a collective will imbedded in every member of the collective. You don't have to appeal to a fantastical deity to effectively be a theist. >>84922629>jews! yeah, you're retarded. Nazism was the consequence of a nation that was just recently unified, provinces that had nothing in common besides language and "race", which had just recently enjoyed independence were suddenly forced together by Bismarck's imperialistic aspirations, they lacked all the institutions that gave older nations an underlying cohesion. The nationalistic sentiments of the French Revolution and the romanticism of the era made them desperately appeal to the only thing they had in common as a basis for their society. Why do you think that fascism and nazism were both born in 2 countries that were less than a century old? >>84922722 none of that is exclusive or even the fault of jews. you're lost. I hope you recover some day.
>>84922674>nationalismNationalism (in-group preference and loyalty) is obviously the best and only way to combat opposing in-group preference (Jewry). How could it be merely window dressing? Your arguments are all super retarded.
reading for people in the thread:https://dialectics4kids.org/is this site anygood?
>>84922780>Nazis believe that there are metaphysical elements to race. That blood carries a collective will imbedded in every member of the collective. You don't have to appeal to a fantastical deity to effectively be a theist.This is definitely true though and most people believe this on some level unless they are completely brain-wiped by edumacation
>>84921839>>84922599>>84922617>>84922701what about the theory of alienation?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx%27s_theory_of_alienation
>>84922662>Average IQ of nazis was like 130And yet their hatred was still nihilistic in nature so that doesn't mean anything>Still pretending anti-white hatred isn't a thing in 2026. Whatever fag.Plenty of people hate whites. You are still JUST a loser and not a victim.>But see that doesn't work because we want to kill degenerates, leftists, traitors, etc.I will believe it when Fuentes and Gypsy Crusader's future killers fucked with Hitler heavy>Nevermind the obvious fact that nazism is secular in nature Except for the fact that Eichman studied the Torah, and the importance of religious appeal was emphasized by their propagandists. and lets not even get into their weird occult obsessionsdid you really just say that the nationalism from nazis is window dressing?Lotta dead Germans in front of K98s so yeah. It was, as well as under Rockwell's American party and still among losers subscribing to it today.
>>84922617Adam Smith was prior to the marginalist revolution of the 1870s. The marginalist established value is subjective and flows backwards from how much consumers want the final output, not the cost of the inputs. A submarine with a screen door is perfectly useless. Even if someone spent a billion dollars making it, it's functional value remains zero. Value is determined by market utility not the hours of labor or money thrown at a project.
>>84922791>This is definitely true though and most people believe this on some level unless they are completely brain-wiped by edumacation what do you mean by that?
>>84922437>ugly deformed freaksMeanwhile average Communist:(these are Communist border guards during the fall of the Berlin wall)
>>84922662>Average IQ of nazis was like 130. Also making an intellectual for "hate" / "racism" is trivially easy.[citation needed]
>>84922437>ugly deformed freaksMeanwhile average Soviet peasants:
>>84922510>financial enslavementTHAT IS CAPITALISM. You are literally describing problems causes by capitalism then blaming communism.
>>84921839None of those were socialist let alone communists, they were brutal national capitalist regimes that emerged out of feudalism and underwent the process of primitive accumulation in order to develop capitalism and compete against other national imperialism for the redivision of the world. Socialism means destruction of capital, wage labour, value form, division of labour. Mao and Stalin are capitalist monsters.
>>84922793>what about the theory of alienation?I think that is a fair criticism. Although it is too catastrophic in nature. I also believe that this isn't a consequence of capitalism itself, "leisure time" isn't really something that was granted to hunter gatherers or in societies that didn't work under the same schedule as we do. There is always an opportunity cost to what you decide to do. And all the commodities you may enjoy in your free time are the consequence of the time someone decided to work instead of rest. So like, yeah sure, but this doesn't solve the issue or anything. >>84922802>Even if someone spent a billion dollars making it, it's functional value remains zero.Marx did address this. He called it "socially necessary labor". If someone devoted their labor to something completely outside of this metric, it didn't make their efforts suddenly become valuable. You are correct on the rest though. The marginalist revolution's most important insight was that something is worth exactly as much as someone is willing to pay for it.
OP here. I've changed my mind, I now fully support mass executions and labour camps. Arguing with conservatives, fascists and libertarians in this thread and witnessing the utter retardation on display has made me realize that there is no salvation or redemption for you people and you all must be put to death if society is ever to advance.
>>84922805I don't know what the other guy was referring to specifically but I assumed he meant esoteric things like blood memories, a shared destiny, a bond that holds through generations and has held since the time of your ancestors. This is not in any way unique to Nazi ideology and is a pretty common idea all over the world, and also obviously true. Even if the argument was that the Nazis took it a bit more seriously, that doesn't either mean anything, because they were autistic Germans and took most things more seriously than other people.>>84922835No, read the thread
>>84922853Typical commie desu>get btfo in arguments>get btfo in logic>get btfo in beauty>TIME TO KILL EVERYONE
>>84922854What we are witnessing in the western world is the result of an economic system where corporations have consolidated so much power that they have completely taken control of our governments and are leeching our nations dry, purely for their own profit. EVERY problem we are facing, including mass immigration, is directly caused by capitalism. It's funny that you talk about "muh leftism causing immigration" when capitalism is the sole reason why mass third world immigration is taking place.
>>84922877>What we are witnessing in the western world is the result of an economic system where corporations have consolidated so much power that they have completely taken control of our governments and are leeching our nations dry, purely for their own profit. EVERY problem we are facing, including mass immigration, is directly caused by capitalism.>It's funny that you talk about "muh leftism causing immigration" when capitalism is the sole reason why mass third world immigration is taking place.Read the thread, all these questions have been answered. It's the jews and we do not have capitalism in the west
>>84922861No, it's fact that a billionaire could rape your wife in front of you and you'd still find a reason to blame communism for it.
>>84922877No, you see, it's happening to persecute people for literally no reason. Take this rifle into a mosque or grocery store now, little buddy. That'll show the jews what for!
>>84922886Billionaires literally cannot exist without jews printing infinite funny-money and financing the inflation-debt it incurs with my taxes. Nothing about this is capitalist in any way.
>>84922881You are a brainwashed slave. A sheep in human form who's brain has been turned into mush by decades of propaganda fed to you by the very people that are causing all the problems in society. The greed of the capitalist elite is destroying the world. All of this would've happened under the Nazis as well btw, Hitler was also loyal to the corporate class.
>>84922877The covid lockdowns showed that the state had more power than private business. The state has too much power. The state can decide who is essential who is non essential. Who is allowed to continue to operate and who is not allowed to operate. Who profits and who goes bankrupt. During the covid lockdowns I saw all the support groups shut down. Alcoholics Anonymous Narcotics Anonymous, Marriage counselling, family counselling. All were determined non-essential. The sale of prayer candles was banned at my local store because they're not essentialWhile all these shutdowns took place the government did not shut down alcohol or liquor stores. We had to make all these sacrifices because of the dangers of this lung based pandemic, but the sale of tobacco and Marijuana continued. Those were essential. How can you view billionaires as the problem and not the state? Why do you only care about taxing billionaires and not tackling the institution which has a monopoly on violence and made those billionaires even richer during the multi year lockdown?https://www.reuters.com/business/pandemic-boosts-super-rich-share-global-wealth-2021-12-07/
>>84922892Henry Ford managed billionairehood while being against financializing private companies, but go off.
>>84922901>Henry Ford managed billionairehood while being against financializing private companies, but go off.Henry Ford is one of the most based dudes of all time and you should definitely read his books.">yet you lie in a society, how curious!"-argumentYes, he lived in a time where jews were printing infinite fiat currency and that lets a person become a billionaire. What about this is not congruent with what I just stated?
>>84922877>It's funny that you talk about "muh leftism causing immigration" when capitalism is the sole reason why mass third world immigration is taking placeSo what party wants to limit immigration and build a wall between Mexico and the United States for the purposes of limiting immigration? The leftist party or the rightist party? Democrats or Republicans?
>>84922780>Nazis believe that there are metaphysical elements to race.That life evolves under darwinian selection is undeniable and the essential motivator for national socialism. I don't expect you to treat this explanation with good faith, but a simultaneous belief in the sciences while also dabbing in the metaphysical is part of the human condition.>provinces that had nothing in common besides language and "race"So now we're at the "implying race doesn't even exist" stage of gaslighting.>>84922795>And yet their hatred was still nihilisticThis doesn't actually mean anything. What's "nihilistic hatred", exactly, and why is it bad?> You are still JUST a loser and not a victim."Yeah people hate you for your race and deeply wish for your extinction, but you're NOT a hekin' victim of their discrimination, OK!?">Except for the fact that Eichman studied the Torah"When an atheists studies the Bible they're become religious." Retard.>Lotta dead Germans in front of K98s so yeah"Ummmm so your nationalism lead to you fighting a war and now people died hmmmmmmmmm not feeling hekin' nationalistic now, chud, heh!"you are genuinely braindead
thread was poisoned by retarded schizos. They make these discussions unbearable. Not because of their points or arguments, but because of their dishonesty and utterly corrupt way of arguing. Let it die, OP. These people are insufferable.
>>84922900>How can you view billionaires as the problem and not the state? Why do you only care about taxing billionaires and not tackling the institution which has a monopoly on violence and made those billionaires even richer during the multi year lockdown?Interesting... almost like the billionaires have consolidated so much power that they have taken over the government and turned it into a vehicle for their private interesting... but wait, that can't be true, because that's something that a fucking commie would say!
>>84922906He was already on track to that wealth before that started. I'm not shitting on him for living in a society.
>>84922809>average communists>picture of a pure blooded GermanAlways funny when leftoid subhumans try to LARP as Aryans. No, say it loud and proud: "i'm a part of the endless brown biomass and their jewish owners". You can come out of the closet it's ok.
>>84922921So the billionaires manipulated the government into preventing businesses from selling products which would earn the billionaires and their corporations more money? That sounds retarded
>>84922943>he doesn't realize that Communism is an ideology and not a raceMeanwhile the average fascist is SUCH a handsome image of masculine beauty. Look at this pure aryan specimen in the pic related.
>>84922934Probably not in terms of real wealth. Any 'wealth' measured after the invention of the stock market in the Netherlands is very dubious and meaningless, and just another symptom of jewish financial mafia tactics. Either way not in any way compable to the billionaires of today so I don't see the point.
>>84922810They gave IQ tests to Nazi leadership and one of their talking points ever since has been "you can still be propagandized into hating jews (for no reason) while being smart"
>>84922900I'm not the person you're talking to, but I have to hop in to say something.>How can you view billionaires as the problem and not the state? Why do you only care about taxing billionaires and not tackling the institution which has a monopoly on violence and made those billionaires even richer during the multi year lockdown?Making a comparison between "the state" and "billionaires" is a huge, common flaw in libertarian philosophy, because they're two completely different things. The state is not an entity, it's a tool to be used by whoever is controlling it. Saying that "the state" is a problem is like saying that guns are a problem because guns kill people, when really the problem is that bad people use guns to do bad things.
>>84922962True. But smart people cannot be indoctrinated into being leftist self-destructive self-hating mindless automatons, not even after 15 years of hardcore leftist schooling.
>>84922909>This doesn't actually mean anything. What's "nihilistic hatred", exactly, and why is it bad?It means it was driven emptily, with no real endgame. The promised one being window dressing.Its bad because it just leads to destruction.>but you're NOT a hekin' victim of their discrimination, OK!?"Do tell, what areas of society you have faced discrimination.And then 3 seemingly deliberate mosreadings of the point on your part, so for the rest of it I will leave it with: urgaylol
>>84922957>Communism is an ideology and not a raceIt's actually a genetic defect, or a disease, if you will. Communists are subhumans who wish for nothing but their birthplaces extinction. A petty revenge against god for making having them be born ugly, stupid and evil. Both browns and jews use them as useful idiots to get access to subvert their homeland. That's all it is and all it ever will be. You categorically can be represent by the Aryan Spirit.
>>84922994*categorically can't be represent by the Aryan Spirit.
>>84922976>It means it was driven emptily, with no real endgame. Nature defined life to be in eternal conflict, ergo anyone refusing to take part in love and destruction doesn't deserve to live.>Its bad because it just leads to destruction.A Lion hunting it's prey is inherently noble and beautiful. Feel free to kill yourself anytime if this is too much for your faggotry.>Do tell, what areas of society you have faced discrimination.Having to see and smell brownoids everywhere in my neighbourhood.
