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Hey faggots. Uncle Eddy is letting your into his room for some premium life and dating advice, especially for laying down with the ~ladies~

I've been on 5 dates this week alone and have hundreds of matches on dating apps. I'm currently unemployed, 27 years old, 5'9, not in shape, and was socially awkward before this recent stretch of learning "game".

Ask away kiddos. Will post screenshots of my conversations if anyone is interested.
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>>84934803
Getting dates and matches is as easy as living in a high population area and acting extroverted.
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>>84934803
>was socially awkward before this recent stretch of learning "game"
Since you're already getting matches, any advice you offer is pointless.
Most of us don't even get the opportunity (and if she truly likes you then you won't need any "game" - attractive men can say the dumbest shit or nothing at all)
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>male to male transsexual
Grim
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>>84934814
Somewhat but not the full or useful picture.

Living next to a city definitely helps. I am close to a 350k population city.

I'm an introvert and still get matches. "Acting" extraverted isn't the right terminology. It's about being honest and confident in expressing your desires, and some flirting (must be learned through trial and error to develop the general skill, start with pick-up lines and go from there to the point where you can be extremperanously charming. Wisdom through years of operating in the world helps, alongside education and what you know. Gives you more material to pull from for easy, automatic conversation)
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>>84934848
>Live near a lot of people and have low inhibition
Riveting revelation. I learned this when I was 14.
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>>84934832
Nigger I was a virgin until I was 21, I was an incel all throughout my teen years until near the end of college. I desperately wanted a relationship and sex because I was a horny adolescent, and I had an idealized view of love and romance (like most people have early on). Even after losing my virginity, I still got no barely any matches, hardly any bitches, and I was pathetic in relationships.

I'm literally trying to offer advice on how to go from beta to Chad. I'm talking about his you transition. Yeah, you don't have the opportunity to even get to have matches/conversations because you're a currently a beta; your profile isn't passing the sniff test. You need to make your profile attractive. Even if you're fat and ugly, you can make an attractive profile and improve yourself in various ways. You're not permanently fucked, falling into that attitude is fatalistic retardationm
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>>84934856
So I'm assuming you currently get a lot of pussy then? Or is there another problem?

>>84934878
*How you transition.
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>>84934803
Good job OP desu
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>>84934889
I am married now but I dated probably over 100 women between ages 19 and 26. There were periods where I was dating 3+ women at once and waking up at one girl's house to messages from another chick asking where I was and if I was free.

Just live near a lot of people and act low inhib, shoot your shot whenever possible. Even average guys can get laid this way. Not with supermodels but with chicks who are 4-7/10.
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>>84934803
Post the screenshots phaggot
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Larp larp sahur
Sorry OP but learning how to use tinder to swipe on desperate hoes or hogs doesn't make you Chad it just means you're a MTN or HTN who figured out how to have causal sex
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>>84934814
How the fuck does one "act extroverted" on an app?
>>84934878
>I'm literally trying to offer advice on how to go from beta to Chad.
How tall are you?
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>>84935132
>Have pictures outdoors at parties and events
>Message people confidently with bold and brash openers
>Make it seem like your time is valuable due to previous arrangements and quickly secure a time to meet IRL or move to a different platform
Easy.
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>>84935042
Literally a male whore. Your wife must have been pretty desperate. This is not the kind of love someone on here would want.
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>>84934814
>>84934856
ask me how I know you're tall and good looking
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>>84935351
I'm 5'9 and have been described as a 4/10 by numerous women. I just had good pictures on my profiles that showed me doing things that are social and creative (playing music with a band, hanging out with people, nature walks).

>>84935256
It simply is what it is.
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>>84934803
>Unemployed
>27
>5'9"
>Thinks text game means anything
Kek you will be alone forever anon you will never be chad
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>>84935147
>>Message people confidently with bold and brash openers
YOU CANT MESSAGE WITHOUT MATCHING YOU DUMB FUCK
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>>84935132
>How tall are you?
5'8, 5,9 on a good day.

I wear boots and shoe lifts, they get me up to 5'11/6ft. Helps with both women and in the professional world, people do respect you more if you're taller. I consider the boots and shoe lifts male makeup, zero shame idgaf
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>>84935614
Matching is just a matter of living near a population centre and having okay pictures.
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>>84935614
i think you can on okcupid actually. though they might have got rid of it. it lets you send a text intro which is basically a message. i think hinge is the same deal where you can leave a comment on a part of their profile
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>>84935694
how good do the pictures have to be?
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>>84935586
I got a degree in Data Analytics, but was lazy and a poor tech worker. Got laid off by AI and Jeets. Currently planning to go into law for civil litigation now.

I outright tell women my field of law is only going to be pull like $70k. Most don't give a shit; they see the interest and passion I person have for civil litigation and it turns them on. Women want forward, masculine male energy. Even if they're professional, educated chicks they just need to see that dog in you directed tow something and expressed in an inhibited manner.
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>>84935716
*personally have
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>>84935614
You can on hinge retard. The meta will constantly change but I've had way dates from Hinge matches than from Tinder.

Hinge has way better design that actually feels like they want users to get dates and get off the app. It's mainstream enough now to the point people more serious about dating are using it.
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>>84934803
>I've been on 5 dates this week alone and have hundreds of matches on dating apps.
Pics or it didn't happen.
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>>84935042
This is the manwhore phase I'm currently in. Very validating after barely getting any pussy in my early 20s.

>Just live near a lot of people and act low inhib, shoot your shot whenever possible. Even average guys can get laid this way. Not with supermodels but with chicks who are 4-7/10.
Exactly. The problem is most guys don't know how to become low inhibition. The solution to that is becoming more congruence with your thoughts and desires. Just saying what's on your mind (with some tact, don't call a fat chick fat even if the thought crossed your mind. But that type of thinking before verbally saying something needs to be minimized to only the most extreme intrusive rude thoughts)

Like okay, do you want to fuck a chick? Great. Profile say short or long term? Short? Okah geat. Learn to flirt by saying what's on your mind, and some trial and error with exact approach. Women sniff out insincerity like it's their 6th sense, your compliments and flirts need to be your genuine beliefs. You are able to express your genuine beliefs in a congruent, more fluent matter. That honesty and higher base level of wit and higher amount of conversation is attractive to women.Think her body is hot? Say she's super fucking hot and has a great ass. Think she has a pretty face? Call her face beautiful. Think her alt outfit and piercings are cool? Tell her that. All humans find compliments attractive, women are just better at filtering the fake ones.

Does her profile say long term? Goal is setting up the date as soon as possible then. Never talk more than a day or two before getting her phone number and organizing the date. How to transition the conversation to her phone number? Find or write a clever pickup line that you believe applies to her. You catch her attention, women operate on emotion so intrigue her emotionally. Then call her pretty/cute/hot, call her smart if she's smart. Then say you want to treat her to dinner and want to explore a long term relationship.
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>>84935705
Socialising and engaging in physical activities, generally. Not fishing or shooting.
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beautiful rage bait thread, anyways wats ur fave gen 2 pokemon? cyndaquil totodile or chikoria
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>>84934803
How many of those 5 dates led to sex? Or are you bragging about buying lunch/dinner for 5 different chicks?
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>>84936027
Out of these 5
>1st date sex: 1
>2nd date sex: 1
>3rd date sex: 2

Haven't banged one yet but she is very shy and reserved. Slow burn girl
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>>84935705
Hire a professional photographer for a day. Tell him to get candid photos of you in some natural settings: City view, waterfront view, hiking, doing your job or an activity/hobby (playing an instrument++++, playing a sport, exercising, doing an art or craft. Whatever you're passion about) etc.

Put some fashionable clothes on and get a haircut for the photos too. Try your best to look conventionally attractive and presentable. A good haircut goes really fair in this, go to the best barber in town and ask for a consultation visit and ask what haircut would be best suited for your facial structure. Pick a haircut you think looks good, trust your own judgement it's probably right


Balding horribly? Time for turkey, or just get a wig who gives a sit so long as it looks good.
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>>84935694
>just have good pictures bro
>just be attractive bro
>just get matches bro
SHUT THE FUCK UP RETARD
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>>84934803
Going out and having parties...
Friends...
Yeah, no.
I'll make beef roast, garlic bread with the garlic part and the other eith melted cheese, of course blanch and simmer tomatoes down into marina with some Italian seasoning, garlic and onion powder, some buttered asparagus with real pramasean cheese crumbles
I know the garlic bread is out of place with a beef roast but it's tasty, and for a midnight or post coitus snack? fantastic.
I'd just rather make dinner and go for a walk or watch some shows or play some vidya than ebtertain some foid.
Use to be invited with nightlife but none of it was worth losing my nightlife business for or even putting it in jeopardy.
I just want a flashlight that actually likes the same things I do.
I could handle a kept woman.
But there are no women I want to keep.
There are pretty women, sure.
But they are all so much work.
My life is peaceful
Why would any man who has peace in their life choose to fuck that good situation up?
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>>84934803
>Will post screenshots of my conversations if anyone is interested.
Consider me interested, anon
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>>84934878
>Even if you're fat and ugly, you can make an attractive profile and improve yourself in various ways.
aight bro pass the method
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I know how to get girls

which is just act like a low inhibition sociopath. girls fucking immediately light up when you do

It's just exhausting and I don't want to live like that and I don't want a dumb bitch who gets wet because of dark triad bullshit

sadly all of them are like that even the ones trying to larp as good/awkward/nerd girls
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>>84937089
>which is just act like a low inhibition sociopath. girls fucking immediately light up when you do
low agreeable rather than sociopath. You can be low in agreeableness and still act moral and decent to people.
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based OP destroying doomcel trannies
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Pro-tip: if you're a self-proclaimed 'chad' on /r9k/ it means you're still a chopped loser but somehow arrogant like any woman on instagram. Not a great look.
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>>84934803
I'm over 30 years old and fell for the work and get fit memes.
I don't even know where the hell to meet women or what to talk them about. There doesn't feel like there's anywhere to meet them irl at this age and I reek of virginity.
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>>84937811
Sup OP, could you please provide me with screenshots of your conversation like you promised in your post?
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>>84937058
>>84938056
Sure, here is one that was a hookup
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>>84938446
Another hookup example. Longer
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>>84938465
Fufck.
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>>84938446
>>84938465
Lmao are you 40 or smth
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>>84938465
More serious one

>>84937984
Get on dating apps. Meeting IRL you need to go to bars or clubs, or through your in-person hobbies and social groups. Don't have in-person hobbies? You should cultivate some new interests, it's healthy for you. Running clubs are great, gyms, etc. Book clubs if you like books. Music concerts if you like music. Board game nights if you like DND stuff. Depends on what your genuine interests are. You improve your social skills and social circle when you practice your hobby and interests IRL, at least.

If you don't have any real life hobbies that are social, you need to go to bars and clubs. Everyone knows the social contract implicit in those places. Or go on dating apps like 60% of modern couples.
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>>84935983
>beautiful rage bait thread,
If that was trolling, we could admit that the local audience has extremely low intellectual capacity.

The fact that you called this bait "beatiful" only confirms this diagnosis.
This is a very low level and the author of the thread suffers from incurable degenerative brain diseases, but those who responded to this correspond to his level

But I can truly assure you, ignoring the fact that if this message was trolling, it was clearly of low quality, he is really idiot and he dont try to be troll.
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>>84937069
Get fantastic photos of yourself in various settings. Hire a photographer for a few hours and say you want pictures for a dating app profile. Get some of you going on a hike or somewhere scenic and pretty. Also include photos of your doing your job/hobby/instrument, photo of you with a cute animal, and a lot of you in a social setting (preferably with other women).

Get a haircut and up your appearance. Look sharp, being put together is universally attractive. A good haircut goes a really long way. Get some nicer clothes too, whatever makes you the most comfortable and confident. What you think looks good.
Lose the weight and hit the gym long-term obviously. Unless you're morbidly obese, your weight isn't a dealbreaker to everyone. Worse case, you just have to looks match with other fat chicks. Best case? You get someone skinnier.
Improve your skin if you have acne.
Shorter? Weight boots and shoe lifts.
Balding? Minoxidil, microneedling, better suited hair style. Or go to Turkey or get a toupee. Or just wait bald if it looks good on you
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>>84938446
>>84938465
>OP actually delivers
I kneel, senpai.
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>>84938669
*pic of you in a social setting

See what I mean retards? I literally just type what I'm thinking and express my honest thoughts. I'm not even fucking proofreading because I don't give a shit right now I just want to get my thoughts out there. That's what women want, forward masculine action, initiative, and structure.

Remember how Epstein wrote in his emails? Literally the same shit, wrote stream of consciousness replies about his demands and desires. His spelling and grammer was awful not because he was stupid, but because he didn't waste time and energy proof reading. He was the boss, it's the other person's problem to interpret his text. You see the same behavior from other people in positions of power. Act like that with women. Be more like Jeffery Epstein.
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>>84938708
Show us how much of an idgaf attitude you have and catbox some of your dating profile pics. I wanna see if you are just a chiseled jawline chad who happens to be shorter or the real deal.
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>>84938739
https://catbox.moe/c/buq2ks
I'm probably a 6 in terms of raw looks, and get up to a 7-8 through grooming and good photos. I'm not muscular, have a skinnyfat body, and I'm 5'8.5. But my hair and facial hair are decent, and I try to stay sharp with good haircuts and sculpting my beard to accentuate the jaw line.

The biggest take way from the photos is just what good photos look like. My looks aren't a killer, but good clothes, a good hair cut and grooming, and good scenery does all the heavy lifting. Like that leather jacket is great, I ride motorcycles as a hobby and had to buy a jacket. It'a fashionable, looks good, and has sex appeal. Now you combine me wearing that with a good photo? I'm in the money. If I just posted lazy photos of me staring into a bathroom mirror with SSRI eyes, or a shitty selfie where you look insecure on a hike like most guys, I wouldn't get matches based on looks alone. You can't rely on shitty, lazy photos. Make yourself look as good as possible and get genuinely good photos ideally from a photographer or just food ones you and friends took while out in the social world.
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Thanks OP, back in the OD game and it's good motivation. Any examples of your openers? I'm getting so sick of coming up with 10 bullshit lines every day. Algo seems to be cucking me lately too
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>>84939444
I like "you look like trouble " or "I'd love to toss you around, you're hot " a lot, it gets their emotional minds going and it can lead to flirting and sexting easily if they're in the mood. I play around with it, only use the toss around line on girls who clearly aren't in it for the long term.

For more serious girls I usually comment on something I didn't genuinely interesting in their profile. Another easy one is just "wow two cuties " if they have a pic of them and an animal.

Half the time I never get a response, even with a pickup line. That's just the nature of the game on dating apps. It's not you she's probably just busy, barely uses the all, is just looking for attention through apps, etc. Nature of the beast, maybe if you were a true millionnaire Giga Chad you would get a 70-80% response rate. But 50% is pretty good.

Main thing is opening with a flirty line and/or commenting on something of genuine interest in their profile. Could be a hobby, their clothing, or their looks. Ask yourself this question: Why did you swipe right on them? Tell them why, your sincerity and honesty leads to more natural conversations and is inherently more attractive to women. Truth is strength and strength is attractive.
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>>84938465
i just couldnt text like that I know that this is what it takes, but i find these smileys incredibly stupid, the whole way of conversing. I couldnt respect a woman if i managed to get her by typing like this. Im not even a virgin, but im repulsed by having to play this game, learned that pretry early, but more power to you if you manage to do that
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>>84939568
I used to be anti emoji, I thought they were cringe. But I've warmed up to them. They're ultimately just an expression of your mood. If you're happy to take someone out on a date, happy to see someone, well yeah you're smiling even internally.

A little cringe and normalfag, but if you want to play the game you have to. Not every girl uses the same amount of emojis. I went on a date with a doctor and she rarely used emojis. Very fun and playful person, but just more serious in her texting and writing style. I try to match her vibe and put out good vibes of my own.
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>>84934803
Went on a casual date yesterday with a qtpie. She's very introverted, anxious and a bit of a recluse. Unemployed and on neetbux.
The date was fairly platonic, just taking a walk and talking. We walked for around two hours and she said at the end she was happy the conversation flowed so well. At the end she mentioned not liking to label meetups as dates because it's a bit scary, and she doesn't like to rush into things. She did agree to call it a date though.

I don't know how to proceed from here. This was my first ever date and while I didn't fuck it up, I'm afraid I dropped the ball by not flirting. Not like I know how to.
We messaged a bit after the date yesterday, and today.
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>>84940355
Give us a review. Is it actually worth it? In your experience, are foids generally fun or is it mostly a slog to go on dates with them?
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>>84940552
Depends on the foid.
Many are boring normalfags. They can be really plant and even fun, but they're ultimately 100 IQ and that usually shows in them just relying on the strong assertive men in their life to dictate their opinions. Think the sterotypical SAHM.
Some Cluster B and just want the attention and validation (especially younger college girls who get mentally one shot mindraped by social media/Instagram/dating app stimulation. Endless male attention they don't know what to ever do with themselves).
Many are wonderful, interesting, and fun people. I went on a date with a female attorney and she is fucking crazy. Loves dirt biking, metal concerts, and is also successful and can hold her own in an intelligent conversation about politics and philosophy. Super bubbly, extraverted, and a fun friend and a fun fuck!

Of course everyone is an individual and a mix of the above.

Men and women are still humans. There's more similarities than differences between us. Approach women as humans with their own varying personalities, like and dislikes just like men. Obviously there's still differences; men are more interested in things women in people (broadly). Women are more Cluster B in disordered behavior, men are more horny sex pests and aggro. Women are higher in neuroticism and emotional. Me are less agreeable and more assertive. Personally I'm a less assertive guy and like assertive women, that's my type. Big 5 personality traits are all a spectrum, men and women just broadly fall into different parts of those spectrums but every person is different.

I would say it's 100% worth it. I've never been happier and more confident before learned "game" and had frequent success with foids. It's a huge confidence boost that mentally charges my life and makes me happier. And it lets me developed relationships, both platonic and sometimes sexual, with interesting people. And I get to screen for the most ideal women to make into my longterm GF and start a family with
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>Be me
>Obese
>Balding
>Autistic
>Crippling social anxiety
>33 year old kissless virgin
>Live with parents in a town of 9000 not near any big cities
>No IRL friends
>Don't get any matches on apps

OP is probably decent looking and neurotypical
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>>84940450
You did fine. Most people are afraid of committiment. The current trend in dating apps is "dating with intention" i.e. seeing multiple people for 1-3 months, no establishing labels but developing a basic friendship and relationship, maybe fucking s few times, and then going exclusive in a traditional BF/GF relationship or ending the situation because one party feels there's an incompatibility and sa better option. That's what I'm doing, I go on 2-4 first dates every week, don't put labels on these relationships, and I,cm just honest and tell all of the I'm taking things "one step at a time, want long term but need to see if we're compatible and not rushing".

You did fine, don't overthink it. More importantly, don't put all your in one basket. Women have sixth sense for determining if you're needy and desperate. They ALWAYS can tell. So don't be needy or desperate. Take it slow and casual and go on to her first dates. If you can't get other first dates, well you got one at least and we almost need to start somewhere. Keep improving your profile and always be honest with your intentions and desire. Maybe she is the one for you, or there's a better girl you matched with and can go on a date with. Date everyone seriously if you want long term, and screen them. If you seriously like her and ideally want to commit long term tell her how much you like her because that's what you genuinely believe. If you don't feel that way and just want to lock a GF down because you're needy and don't have experience, don't tell her that lie about how much you seriously like her.
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>>84940815
That all makes sense. What about in practice? What should I invite her to do as a second date?
I'm actually not on any dating apps. I got this date on a local message board app by just shouting in the wild "does anyone want to go on a date on Saturday?". She messaged me, said she's not down for Saturday but let's chat. After two days of chatting and exchanging one picture, we went out that Saturday.

But now I'm out in the deep ocean without knowing how to swim.
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>>84940789
>OP is probably decent looking and neurotypical
Yup. A failed normalfag who ascended to normalfag. Not bad considering he probably got demoralized a bunch by r9k and whatnot, but thinking his advice is helpful to everyone on this board is ludicrous
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I'm a tall gymcel and get zero matches on apps either.
It's all 100% about being a neurotypical normalfag
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>>84938446
>>84938465
>>84938572
how is this satisfying at all? i dont understand. i just dont.
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>>84940840
You're good. Seriously don't overthink it. Treat it as casually as possibly and minimize emotional investment. I know that's hard, since you don't have experience, but try your best to be casual. The more you do the easier it becomes to start being more confident and having less investment. It's literally the same skill dev as learning an instrument, or developing any skill. The more you do the more fluent and correct you become. It's why late 20s-40s guys mog 18-24 year olds on the dating market (generally, majority of people are still failures and college chads exists). Broadly speaking, we just have more experience and wisdom, which is easier to put into practice.

Put a better way: Have zero expectations for this relationship. Assume the worse, that it won't last. Because it likely won't. Not because of you, 85% of early relationships just don't work out into long term things. That's the nature of the beast, if not outright human constant of romance. At least, it's an objective fact of our modern dating culture.

Keep in mind, most normalfags either never learn these skills or think this through. They either already embody congruence, because they were raised in a good environment and already had tons of social experience by the end of highschool/college. Those are the legit normalfag chads we all wish we were, they're the 80-109 side of the IQ bell curve. Don't think, do. Being present in the moment. They listen to women if they're good and can have fluent social m conversations and skills naturally. And/or they already retarded and just have low inhibition and say and do whatever the fuck comes to their mind.

Those aren't most people. Most people didn't have good upbringings and missed out on social skill development. That's fine. But they never improve, or never full self-actualize. They end up in loveless marriages with a itchy side, because these men don't express themselves and know how to navigate socially. They aren't honest, in other words.
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>>84940840
(Me)
Nvm I asked her out again and she said there was no romantic chemistry but we could meet as friends.
I said no.
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>>84940840
>>84941249
In terms of practice advice about what to do: Find an activity you're interested in doing and think she would enjoy and invite her to it. Zero expectations besides wanting to have a good time and getting to know her better. Say
>"Hey I really enjoyed our time together. Want to get together again? I'm free on Xday and Yday for a Zthing if you're interested. Zthing looks like a fun time! My treat."
Something to that effect.

Ask yourself this question: What did you think of your time out last time? What do you want from her? Like you said, you enjoyed your time out, and want to do it again. Tell her that. Literally just that, keep it simple. You're not being dishonest of decietful in anyway, because you're writing it in your own words and expressing your honest opinion. Honest and truth is strength and that's attractive to women. That's congruence/low inhibition or whatever you want to call it. Amen have 6th sense for detecting deciet (likely because most dudes just want to lie and have sex). Never lie. Keep it simple, don't overshare or become needy (don't explain all this anxiety ina. Text wall to her. Maybe explain it in person in joking manner if the vibes are right, because the are your genuine thoughts and it's your genuine experience. It will become a natural and confident conversation because those are your thoughts, and it's endearing ad attractive to her because your honest thoughts are about liking her a lot and wanting to continue this). The tricky part is balancing that genuine interest without being needy or desperate. That comes with experience and having more options available at the same time. That's why women don't have these problems, they always have more options available.

Anyway be honest, sincere, and ask her out for another date.
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>>84941250
That fine. Meet as friends then. Say you reconsidered after thinking about it. You probably need the social experience, and developing a friendship is good. If she likes you, it opens the doors to meeting her social group and other friends. Even if that dies happen, you're developing socal skills that will be attractive to other women.

Don't sweat it. Again like 90% of first dates and early relationships never go anywhere serious. Sometimes it's your fault, but often the girl has her own stuff going on. Might just be seeking attention and validation,nor she's super anxious about some shit and is in her own head. They're higher in neuroticism generally for a reason.
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>>84938465
How do I learn to text like this?
I couldn't even read the pic in one sitting, I had to take a break halfway through because the cringe was killing me. I know women like men who text and flirt playfully like that but I'm completely unable to do it, even reading this is difficult. Is this just a fake it until you make it type of scenario? Is exposure the only way to do it?
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>>84937089
>just act like a low inhibition sociopath. girls fucking immediately light up when you do
Most anons her would rather die a virgin than live life that way. Unless you have advice on how to find a good woman while acting like an admirable high-inhib introvert, your advice is next to worthless.
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>>84941523
It's just through trial and error. Learn an effect pickup line, or make a comment about something you found genuinely engaging or nice in her pictures or profile. You swiped right on her, meaning you have some interest in her, either as a person or bag of meat. Express your genuine thoughts.

Once you have a conversation going, flirting is trial and error. You need strike a balance between horny and playful. I never say anything don't believe, even if it's expressed in a cringe way. Yeah I'd love to toss a woman around and fuck her. Well the second part is pretty crass and through trial and error I know most some don't respond well t crass and explicit "I want to fuck you" type comments. So nix that, keep the first part. Then comment on her body and keep it playful depending on what response.

I used AI to help me brainstorm responses when I was learning. Start with that, "Hey grok, based on this response what's a playful but witty flirty message I should send as a reply? My goals are this and my methodology is inspired by masculinity writers like Jon Anthony. What would he recommend as the best possible response given my goals".

Do that type of shit and you build the cringe flirty skills from there. This is just how I flirt too, you need to do what you feel most comfortable doing and strongest when you write it. Express your honest opinions with her in the way that makes you feel strongest. If that's more serious, great you'll attract more serious and less overtly playful women
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>>84939566
50% is insane man. I think I'm getting 5%. Admittedly it's pretty easy to get dates after matching though But I do definitely need to do some new pictures. Honestly seems like I have better luck texting something stupid and flirty rather than actually reading the profile lmao

I think we are in a similar cyborg state, but I've been avoiding fraud maxing. Might be time to put on the lifts...
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>>84941694
Okay, thanks for the advice anon. I'll practice with an AI until it stops being as uncomfortable and then I'll make a tinder profile and just go from there. I'm just averse to expression of affection and sexual desire, this trait had cucked me out of the few chances I had irl too.
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>>84941822
For me now, I probably get a 50% response rate, 15% phone number rate, and 5-10% that lead to dates. Most conversation fizzle out. I'm not the best or perfect. I never take it personally. Maybe she isn't as horny as when she swiped, maybe I fucked something up, or she's just looking for attention. Most of the time, she's busy, rarely checks the dating app, or just didn't find your pickup line engaging enough and it wasn't the right fit for her desires, or hell even her current mood. Most of that is out of my control, and we don't know each other. To each other, we're literally just text on an ADHD stimulation device. It's easy to take other people's time and energy for granted when there's no repercussions, it's a central problem with dating apps and dating in the 21st century. Ghosting is obviously immoral and disrespectful behavior. But you're Anonymous, so ghosters face zero consequence in their world.

That's fine, the 5-10% date rate is enough for a rotation of women texting me. I'm "dating" like 7 women right now, in terms of we're sending texts every day and are actively planning dates (if new) or already went on a date, and already had sex or likely will after date #2-4.

To them, I say I'm taking things slow and dating with intention. I outright tell these chicks I'm going meeting other people from dating apps because I'm just taking things slow and casual, with the intent for long term but open to short, it all just depends on the chemistry. Right now I have 2 women I can imagine myself going with long term, and even marrying. But right now I definitely want to remain in the manwhore phase and take things one step at a time with everyone. I'm trying my best not to be dishonest and lay out my intentions with these girls, and I've had a few rejections after expressing. Which is fine, if this arrangement isn't what either of us is looking for, I'm not going to lie and lead you on with promises of commitment and month 1 exclusivity just for sex.
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>>84938876
>https://catbox.moe/c/buq2ks
this fucking nigga just gave an empty link and none of the retards here noticed or care
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>>84941822
>I think we are in a similar cyborg state, but I've been avoiding fraud maxing. Might be time to put on the lifts.
It's makeup for men. So long as you don't go full Robert Downey Jr and try to ass 6+ inches with blatantly tall boots, it's a nice boost regardless of you height. It's a free 1-3 inches of height.

Fuck you don't even have to lie about it. The one time I've ever been "confronted" about it was with my ex long-term GF and I just said I bought lifts because these boots fit better with them. And that's true, without the lifts my boots are too big..

It's all little fraudulent but so is makeup so who gives a fuck. Height preferences are so baked into human biology (for both men and women) it's foolish not to maximize it. Huge free upgrade for minimal effort and minimal dishonest. or
Both men and women since men take taller guys as authority figures too, just without the sexual arousal component that women have (discount gay guys obviously). I would still wear lifts just for being more respected at work even if I wasn't trying to be a Chad with women right now.
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>>84942187
I had the pictures up for a couple hours, that's why it took this long before someone said anything.

I'll reupload them if you really want
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>>84935897
>You are able to express your genuine beliefs in a congruent, more fluent matter. That honesty and higher base level of wit and higher amount of conversation is attractive to women.Think her body is hot? Say she's super fucking hot and has a great ass. Think she has a pretty face? Call her face beautiful. Think her alt outfit and piercings are cool? Tell her that. All humans find compliments attractive, women are just better at filtering the fake ones.
So act like a horny Indian?
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>>84942257
you can't take down your pictures on catbox, tf?
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>>84934803
How do I approach girls at the gym? I take bjj classes with this one persian girl with a huge ass but i cant for the life of me find any kind of way to talk to her w/out seeming creepy

>t. 24 yo autistic introverted KHHV
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>>84942303
Unironically yes, except you're not a 60 IQ retarded Jeet and you know to put a baseline filter on your literal primal thoughts. Or rather know how to translate those primal "show bob me rape u now!!!!!!!!" thoughts into something funny, witty, and attractive to a woman given the context of the conversation

Low IQers are more honest in many ways than many midwits and have more success with women as a result because they have almost zero filter. That's great for expressing desires and talking to women. That becomes bad she you're pulling your pants down at Thanksgiving dinner because you're low IQ and think it's funny and appropriate. The left side of the IQ bellcurve is lower inhibition than the right side, for both the good and bad.

God I fucking hate Jeets. Thinking this through has made me realize how dogshit their culture is and fucked their genetics are. The lower castes are literal subhuman 75 IQ monkeys. And the upper castes we get through immigration are genetically more intelligent, but their culture celebrate lies and dishonesty for personal gain. Nuke India please
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>>84942425
>The lower castes are literal subhuman 75 IQ monkeys. And the upper castes we get through immigration are genetically more intelligent, but their culture celebrate lies and dishonesty for personal gain.
The caste system is retarded and all jeets are the same. You can admit you're a jeet, no one here is going to judge you for it.
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>>84942403
>"Hey I've noticed you in class the last couple months and I think you're really pretty. I'd love to get to know you better and treat you to a dinner sometime. Are you interested? No hard feelings if not, just shooting a shot".

Probably a little verbose, but something to that affect. You've noticed her in class and think she's really hot (don't be crass immediately, hot turns into beautiful/pretty/cute), so express that to her. Since it's your honest thoughts and you are approaching her in good faith, the words will flow far more fluently and it will sound stronger than trying to lie to get her number. We've all told lies. Keeping up that house of cards is stressful, it's more mental energy spent remembering what to say to continue the lie. So just say the truth.

Be a gentleman about it but express the desire. Practical wisdom, it's good to give them an "out" so they don't feel pressured. When they do, that's when you get fake numbers and the situation becomes awkward. Since she's a classmate and has to see you again, you don't want to make it awkward. So just keep it chill and say "hey, no pressure, just shooting a shot. No hard feelings if you say no etc etc.".

The same mindset applies to the date. I've rambled about this earlier, but go into the date with zero expectations outside of having a good time and getting to know her better. It's just a coffee/lunch/dinner, you both agreed to be here. You are both trying to see if you are a good fit for each other, at least to be interested enough to go on a second date. Have a good, natural time, i.e. just have a natural conversation when you're present in the moment and actually listening to what she's saying, then it will be an enjoyable time because you're grounding yourself in truth and are speaking more fluently.

It will be awkward at first and you will 100% fumble. If you get a date, 99.999999% chance you fuck it up or do something weird because you're a noob. That's fine! Gotta start somewhere.
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>>84942469
Nigga I don't disagree about Jeet hate. It's a fact the higher castes are higher IQ than the lower castes. It's literally 2000+ years of generic selection. Doesn't mean I like either group or want them in my country, or that the system itself is good. I wish all jeets were deported from every single country in the West, they are a bad immigrate population that doesn't assimilate into Western cultures and openly and proudly practices ethnic favoritism in hiring. They're worse the fucking Jews
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>>84935055
Lurk more you faggot
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>>84942309
You can with an account

>>84940789
You're at the bottom of the sexual market place. You need to fix your life before bringing in a GF. A woman isn't going to make your life better, you'll just make hers miserable.

To fix your life:
>Weight
Start losing it. If you are morbidly obese, you have disordered eating and need to develop better habits. Try 24-72 hour fasts, the hunger hormone ghrellin objectively goes down. You start feeling satiated and full on significantly less calories after not eating for a bit.

If you can't control your own hunger and weight, the rest of your life is more likely in chaos too because you have bad fundamental habits. Aristotle and Aquinas, two of the smartest people ever who dedicated their life to knowledge and human eudaimonia, both wrote about habit being a central virtue and expression of human flourishing. There's a reason obesity is correlated with lower levels of success in life, in any metric. Stupid, fat, and unsuccessful is a common pairing for a reason, especially when lower class people have kids who continue to suffer in an awful environment where they develop bad habits.
>Bald
Toupee or turkey hair transplant. Or just rock it, not the highest priority.
>Social anxiety
Practice talking to people. Go to out of town, somewhere IRL, and go up to random people at a bar and strike conversation. Say you've been a recluse and are trying to do better. That's interesting, people will engage with that

Also get professional help. Therapy is good because talking to someone no strings attached allows you to speak your mind, which is good for your health.
>Autistic
Same as above, seek professional help
>33 YO virgin
Do you care and have a complex? Save up money and see a 10/10 prostitute. It's just sex and you will likely have a good time. I've seen plenty of hookers when I've been horny and was less successful with women. Sometimes you have a bad experience, but most of mine were fantastic. Go on tyrst
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>>84940789
>Live with parents in a town of 9000 not near any big cities
Improve your life to the point where you can move out. Move somewhere with a higher population and more dating opportunities. You need to get the rest of your life straightened out first
>No IRL friends
What are your hobbies and interest? Join the social side of those interests IRL. Even nerdy shit bad social clubs now, there's video game, anime and boardgame shit in most cities and moderate population suburbs and towns. Develop new interests too that get you more social. There's a fucking entire world and 4000 years of human hobbies, art, and shit do and explore. Take up gardening. Get into music, go to more shows. Join a running club. Get into stained glasses. Get into a craft like pottery or bee keeping. Get into rollerblading. Join a bookclub. Go into camping. Read a book about Teddy's Roosevelt's mountaineering adventures and get into mountaineering and hunting. Become a car or motorcycle guy. Find something to be inspired by. There's entire world of human craft and artistic mediums and traditions build over thousands of years. Scoffing at that and just isolating into one or two hobbies, that you don't even engage the social side of, is retarded. Open yourself up and find a new interest, engage with tj socially and talk to more people and gain more experience.

For dating apps, honestly you're gonna have to settle for obese black women if you really Want a GF. You're not a catch now, and they're not catch. Take what you can get and use it to build experience and improve your life. And maybe find love. Love and support for a partner can happen at any weight, looks are WAY WAY less important than genuine kindness, love and support for your partner. That's what a relationship is about, fundamentally. That's the most important stuff by far.
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>>84942750
For getting over social anxiety and building skills, there's so much opportunity online too. Literally the entire world is actually your fingertips. There are entire communities designed sound meeting new friends just to talk to and develop your social skills. Join a community like that and practicing talking to people over zoom or discord or whatever. Apps for people learning English and need someone to talk to. Fucking /soc/ even on 4chan. Not to mention all the hobby and interests groups online for every interest imaginable.

You need experience and to start living life, not isolating and rotting away.



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