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Is fundamentally changing yourself worth it to get a girlfriend? I can't imagine that to be the case.
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It's called improving
Fuck off to reddit with your spam screenshots.
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>>85080790
>>85080790
i think there are things that you should always strive to improve and then there are things that are only improvements subjectively, and you shouldn't incorporate elements of the former into your identity even if you do them. Like if you're like the fembot from last night's thread who doesn't wipe her ass, that may be true for her but she shouldn't identify with that. On the other hand, the guy in OPicrel's anecdote liking dramas and vidya, those are subjective tastes and you shouldn't really give those things up if you don't want to and those are things that are okay to identify with. Like find a partner who likes your taste in media so you can enjoy it together, don't find a partner that will tolerate and enable you having a crusty infectious asshole.
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>>85080806
But at what point is it improving and at what point is it changing who you are? I like that I enjoy literature and film. I am educated, dress well, and have a good job, but women may find that insufficiently masculine. Should I pretend to be some macho guy and looksmax? I don't think I will.
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hoes honestly just need to know what its like to be ignored for a while.
>i liked so and so but lost interest bc not completely perfect in EVERY way
then die childless cunt. noone should be entertaining this. children are literally better off not being born, than being born to stupid narcissistic cunts like this who will be allowed to wear the pants in the relationship bc who tf knows why
>>85080806
its one thing to improve yourself in objective ways, its another thing to change yourself in ways that arent improvements bc a woman wants you to
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>>85080823
you're a spammer posting reddit screenshots. You're not educated, you are a retard
improve.
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>>85080790
change yourself for yourself, but never for a woman. they can tell that youre trying hard and they dont respect that
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>>85080823
I think if you have weak noodle arms because all you do is sit at a desk and read books or whatever, then building muscle or practicing some kind of athletic activity could round you out more without sacrificing your current image or identity, that's a way you could improve and become more masculing without roidmaxxing.
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>>85080806
Do you know how many girls like video games and childish things? It's unreal. You do not need to change your hobbies if you don't want to. Besides, if a woman doesn't like it when you have hobbies she probably doesn't have any herself.
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>>85080790
Because love is physical thing. No one will love you "for being you". Grow up.
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>>85080956
Love is a partially physical thing. If you can't even take care of yourself, how do you expect a woman to perceive you as able to take care of the relationship? Most Christians want children as well. Id you don't even have enough personalty responsibility to do the little things like listed, then how can she trust you to take care of big things later, as a father?
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>>85080790
Just don't talk about video games, it's not that hard. She didn't even say playing them turned her off, just listening to the retard talk about them.
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>>85080806
>just IMPROOOOOOVEEEEE bro
Nobody gives a shit if chad has a zerotwo pfp
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>>85081146
yeah that's reasonable, nobody wants to hear you talk about the video game you're playing, even if she's into video games too.
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grooming and physical improvement are good for yourself and your own self esteem, and worth doing.

you can still have the personality of a manchild whose only interest is video games and anime and get a gf, it's easy to find a girl that does not care about that.

the only non negotiable is hygiene and stable respectable employment. which ya excludes like 90% of this board
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Key Biblical Passages

Several verses emphasize prioritizing inner character over outward appearance:

1 Peter 3:3-4 & 1 Timothy 2:9: Focus on cultivating a "gentle and quiet spirit" and inner beauty rather than focusing on elaborate hair, jewelry, or costly clothing.

Proverbs 31:30 & 1 Samuel 16:7: Remind believers that charm and physical beauty are fleeting ("vain"), urging a focus on fearing the Lord and nurturing the heart, which God sees.

Jeremiah 4:30 & Matthew 6:25: Question the pursuit of beauty, calling it in vain and advising against anxiety over clothing and physical appearance.

Ecclesiastes 1:2: Reflects on the overall vanity of worldly pursuits.
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Why do we have to revolve our lives around being able to court girls, or why do these...chicks, assume that every facet of ours has to be up to their standards? sure it's nice to date them and such but it's not anyone's obligation to be up to the perfect point for everyone else, you can be on a messy situation emotionally, mentally, financially, whatever
I don't give a shit if i'm on a good point to date these basic bitches, they have opened their legs for deadbeats, pedophiles and whatever else scum of society anyways. If you want to date me, that's cool, if you don't, well whatever, you won't be there for my hard moments anyway
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>>85081246
zero two fucking sucks
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>>85080956
>that picture
Shittiest larp on plebbit.
Tbf all of those stories where they complain about men bad and have those supposed church overflowing with women are made up and humble bragging larps
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>blessed are the meek for they will AAACCCCCKKKK

jew bible provably false again
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>>85080790
A change is only an improvement if it gets you nearer to or allows you to then get neared to a desired outcome. If you dont desire the outcome its not an improvement
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>>85081339
submissiveness for the goy
ruthlessness for the jews

just as rabbi yeshua planned

remember to let israel enslave the world because it's the only way jesus comes back lol
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You can't change yourself. It'd obviously be worth it, but you can't.
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The funniest part about these screenshots is that the people who wrote these posts probably havent even set foot in a real church.

They're most likely referring to those places they have in the USA where some random guy calls himself a "preacher" or "pastor" (since he can't call himself a priest, because he hasn't been ordained by the Church lmao) basically spouts random nonsense written with Chatgpt and dances and sings for entertainment/vanity and keeps the donations for himself.
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>>85080790
It wont work. Old me was
>Fat
>Bald
>Hairy
>Bad teeth
>Made poverty wages
Now I make 6 figures and none of that shit above applies to me anymore. Im still invisible to women cuz Im not an ultra rich 6 foot 4 male model
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>>85081438
Most of these threads are made from the perspective that you no longer have anyone to help you find a partner and have to rely solely on your own looks and status
If you still have an active friend group, you can just ask if anyone knows somebody thats single and youll eventually find someone
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>Is fundamentally changing yourself worth it to get a girlfriend?
You will not find happiness that way. You will only lose yourself.
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>>85080806
What's wrong with reddit desu? They like cute anime and vidya and they never tell me to kms for being cute & funny desu
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>>85080790
>Is fundamentally changing yourself worth it to get a girlfriend?

Not really. You can have all kinds of mental gymnastics in the world for a woman not being into you, but that will never excuse the fact that there's a woman in this world willing to settle for this (who, mind you, started out as a friend she kept rejecting, so the definition of jeet rapist creep that kept harassing her), meaning there's utterly no weight whatsoever to what a woman ever says when it comes to relationships.

Women in the couple's comment section (including attractive rave sluts who likely have slept with hundreds of guys themselves) also feel an urge to praise her for actions because apparently she's strong for doing that... The reality is that they've slept with hundreds of guys and rejected a ton of decent men, so they need to find an excuse to say something positive out of their own insecurity. Also, that jeet now has a form of clout with a number of them.
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>>85080790
I need to fundamentally change myself anyways so if I got a girlfriend out of it that'd be just peachy.
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>>85080956
You're right anon. Love is very physical, very personal for women. Except when they literally would rather date and marry this guy over you. And then showing that relationship off becomes her personality. More than anything, it's more about mocking other men, because no matter what you do, you will never be good enough for her.
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>>85081137
How come Christian women preach about wanting guys to take care of themselves yet are willing to settle for and/or congratulate a woman for dating and marrying a literal cripple? I take care of myself, hit the gym, am healthy and fit, but just genuinely curious. If it's true you don't want smelly men and don't want to perpetuate that you don't want nasty and smelly man who doesn't take care of his looks, why is it suddenly okay when a woman settles for this?
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If you had any contact with real couples you'd know moids do whatever the fuck they want, they play vidya, collect warhammer and anime figs, and they still have gfs and wives.
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>>85085846
This has nothing to do with what I'm saying and is a genuinely rare case. I am talking about the vast, vast majority of women. I have no idea who those people are or their backstory, but you shouldn't let this one example hinder you.
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>>85085846
It's like opposite day. Women say one thing, but mean another. They must complain about it because this is what they really want. Guys who don't shower, smelly teeth...
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>>85085873
But even if it's a rare case that didn't stop women from accepting it, attending their wedding, followed by thousands and thousands of women constantly flooding and giving constant praise on their social media.

Pic rel is the type of comment they get. She's a rave slut. This is her IG
https://www.picnob.com/profile/josysylvie/

There are plenty more comments like that from all kinds of beautiful women. The validation that she gets is like an endless pit, not a single sign of repulsion. In fact, guys are the only ones who comments obvious disgust at this (understandable, because women as a whole are very cold when it comes to dating and have treated us much worse than this subhuman). Even if this is relationship is fake and just theatrical (since they never kiss), the message being perpetuated is that women in fact like smelly, dirty jeets who don't take care of their looks, yet women in spite of swearing otherwise, are quick to jump to praise.

>I have no idea who those people are or their backstory

Long story short the met thru church, friends introduced them, and then she started going on trips with him (mind you, most women who are not interested in you will not even as much as answer a text), but only as a friend, and when he started making moves on her on IG, she kept turning him down until the creepy messages that she couldn't ignore made her "connect with God" or whatever the fuck, and that's how she ended up with this subhuman.
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>>85085970
Still sounds like a weird one off. Social media is only going to show you the most absurd stuff. This one event is, once again, not representative of reality of your average woman.
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>>85086028
The problem is that the average woman still reacted positively to this, in spite of claiming utter disgust at the mere possibility of a normal guy just having bad teeth or dressing poorly. It's true that exceptions don't make the rule, and they shouldn't, but if it's true that women are repulsed by poor looks, they would never praise a woman for marrying a guy with poor looks (and whose very habits exhibit those of creeps they constantly complain about). Her name's anitawinglee, look her up. Everything I'm saying is true. One can never take anything a woman has ever said at face value, including disgust for men who don't groom themselves.
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Never change for these freaks, they will use any excuse to make you change yourself and make you stand out less then be mad you don't stand out. Worthless traitorous cunt
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>>85080806
>It's called improving
It won't erase your bodycount.
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>>85085846
>>85086176
I'm convinced women are just in it to gaslight conventional men while they happily bounce off with unconventional men and make every excuse in the world for them.
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>>85086599
They would definitely not go as far for a conventional man, that's for sure, and they would even go as far calling him creepy, repulsive despite looking attractive for exhibiting the same behavior as this jeet (including the same woman the jeet is dating), but it's still hard to wrap one's head around and accept that they're okay with dating arguably the ugliest guy in the world just because he's supposedly an unconventional man. It' not like he's an accomplished man in some way, yet they're pedestalizing it, similar to how men rally for K-pop idols.
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>>85087122
Also, if anything Darwinism will tell you that their offspring will be weak and eventually bred out of existence. In fact, the fact that she chose this guy who can't protect her from predators is already something that doesn't make any evolutionary sense.
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>>85087122
>K-pop idols
One thing to note, in Korea, lookism is very important. Both guys and girls are obsessed with looking good. You talk to a regular guy, and he will explain to you how girls should look a certain way, and how guys should look a certain way too. They would make a comment about you on the street if they see you looking like shit. A woman dating a subhuman goes completely against their culture, this would not flow there at all. The woman isn't Korean, but is of Chinese descent, but it's still shocking any kind of East Asian woman would act so indifferent to looks in general.
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Is that desire for change motivated by internal or external interests? One is growing into yourself, the other is growing into what others want you to be.

It sounds like semantics, but one preserves your sense of self, while the other leaves you feeling lost and dead inside when you look in the mirror at 3am
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>>85081339
None of that shit works in the real world
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>>85087243
It does, you just have to continue cultivating the headspace until your actions and behavior exude this and your sense of self is stronger than the world can shake. Applies to any philosophy. Continue practicing and believing in it, until it becomes your somatic baseline.

Or fake it until you make it.
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>>85081146
What else do you talk about then? Muh major? I'm dead serious.
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>>85087254
It doesnt unless you already have a social group.
If youre relying on cold approach, personality is the least important thing. Just dont be an obnoxious dick in public
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>>85087122
>>85087140
Like I said, I'm convinced modern female behavior is purely out of spite than genuine distrust or even evolutionary inclination. They'd unironically go for some of the ugliest men in the world with little to no redeeming qualities over a completely acceptable one with ordinary qualities.
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>>85087974
>even evolutionary inclination
I don't think it's evolutionary inclination at all. There's no evolutionary advantage to dating a guy with dwarfism. But smartphones and social media have distorted their view of relationships and men in general, so they view most men as predators rather than normal people, as such, most "ordinary" man you have mentioned get automatically categorized as a predator, whereas actual predators get a pass due to their evolutionary inclination to prefer men who are predators. This ugly guy likely didn't get a pass from the start, but he preyed on her long enough that she was willing to give him a chance. Just obviously, her guard was completely down because she doesn't see him as one and he's not a threat. Women have their guard up at all times against ordinary men for all the wrong reasons and the way society and their perception of men has been skewed by social media. Being rude is seen as the new normal for them as they think every guy is dangerous. General distrust for men is what has spawned rad fem movements in general. This woman in particular is literally just a clout chaser at her core, but she also likely heavily distrusts men in general.



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