She's not wrong, you know. Fathers don't exist in nature.
>>85082665Agreed men should just go and die in wars or work in mines or something. We can keep a couple of attractive men around ig. The others can die. Scrotes are not needed.
>>85082665>Listen to this woman for 1 minute 45 secondsholy shit nigger at least put a tl;drwhat a shit thread
>>85082783>I'm not willing to invest two minutes to enrich my perspectivepearls before swine
>>85082789This is no different from "watch my 30 minutes long incel rant" or "watch my 4 hour schizo ranting about how the Moon landing is a hoax".
Yeah just let society devolve back into differential r-selection mode and destroy all the benefits we've gotten from monogamy and selectivity
>>85082833>devolvehow is being more eugenic "devolving"?
I agree with her and in fact have made this same point on this board. But it's not out of any feminism (im a chud male incel). Prehistoric tribal societies were more communal and the women were communal and shared. It was one big fuckfest in the tribe. Monogamy is a result of the emergence of hierarchical societies following agrarian development and the establishment of permanent settlements.
>>85082783Matriarchy is the natural state. Women used to just get fucked by multiple men and the tribe would take care of the children. For men to know who their children are, they need to control womens sexuality.
>>85082866Breeding for low IQ is dysgenic, not eugenic.
>>85082866It's not, and that's a false premise.Monogamy and differential K selection are actually more "eugenic" if you wanna call it that. It's societies (if you even call them societies) that have less monogamy and selectivity that perpetually remain lower development and lower IQ Pair bonding, paternal investment, and courtship are some of core the building blocks behind any of the best civilizations
>>85082956>literally mansplaining how breeding with balding losers is actually eugenicamazing
>>85082665Even setting aside that humans are part of nature, she's just straight up retarded and wrong either way as there are dozens of animal species, particularly in primates but also in several others, where the father helps raise and protect the young.
>>85082942>breeding with apex males ist not eugenic but breeding with ugly losers with shit genes is.Also nice mansplaining
>>85082969people were grandfathers by the time they were balding historically. physical attraction lasted long enough for a breeding cycle or two and left it to the next generation. chad is a modern construct.
>>85082969Balding isn't that bad, and it can be fixed relatively easilyIt's a sign of high dht/dht sensitivity All the decent cultures in the world that have encouraged human development effectively have had marital institutions and some form of direct paternal investment
>>85082833humans are k-selected no matter what mating strategy or how many children they have, because they're only capable of giving birth infrequently and take years to raise their young into self-sufficiency. r-selection would be if a woman could give birth to 100 kids at a time, twice a month, and they were able to fend for themselves as soon as they popped out. actual r-selected species are things like insects that lay massive egg clutches, or invasive plants that grow and reproduce rapidly.
>>85082931Sub 5 unga bungas sitting around the campfire on their cuck stones and watching. Brutal.
>>85082931matriarchy was also a primitive state and unable to progress past the stone age. if you want to live in anything greater than a primitive jungle tribe, you switch to patriarchy and start controlling women's sexuality.
>>85083002That's why I'm saying differential r/k selection. It's a matter of degree and patternIt is in fact good for women to select for high paternal investment and it's literally non-negotiable to get any modern advanced civilization
>>85083001Its a sign of inferior genes. Only apex males should pass on their genes which naturally happens in a matriarchy.The patriarchy distorts natural selection by allowing genetic garbage like incels to exist
>>85083038Literally drivel. The reason incels exist is BECAUSE we have mate selection ability, and people are discerning about who they reproduce with.Extreme patriarchies suppress female selection, which isn't optimal either. Optimal is having both male and female mate selection and incentivizing monogamous, high investment reproductionIt's the combination of courtship, selectivity from both men and women, and monogamous reproduction that helps give the best civilizations their edge.
>>85083050Incels exist because the patriarchy force women to mate with subpar men. If women were truly free then incels and ugoos wouldnt exist or would be sent to die in wars immediately which is basically how natural selection operates
>>85083432Incels are a modern phenomenon and they exist because we live in a society of excess so people can grow fat lazy and useless but still survive, unlike in the past.
>>85082665but she's ugly so who cares about her opinion? it's the equivalent of a short man asking a hypothetical question about something. who cares?? ugly women and short men are basically the same thing
>>85082789i love how angry you get whenever someone says they're not going to watch the dogshit tiktok foid videos you spam here
>>85082789>foidbabble is pearlskekked
>>85083556So just kill incels or send them to die in some faraway war?
>>85082665>Be me, caveman in nature.>Impregnate girl, the way I was meant to.>Fade from existance, the way I should in nature.
>>85083656The way society is structured surplus males will always exist and today more and more of them are gaining consciousness of themselves and their self interest in smashing gyno power.
>>85082665>Fathers don't exist in natureNeither does civilisation
>>85082665This can't really be true, otherwise people would have started getting AIDS millions of years ago and not decades ago when we started behaving like apes.
>>85082906Women are mostly monogamous (sexually) but chad isn't, antiadultery laws were there too punish chads otherwise he would just inadvertently add foids to his harem ad infinitum
>>85082931>REEEEEEEE LET US FUCK FUCK FUCK RANDOM MEEEEN REEEEEEE WERE BEING OPRESSSSEEEEDDDDDDD >>:((((thats the tldr, der foiden cannot cope with jumping on multiple dicks regularly.
Leave it to a woman who says>people with uterusesTo have shitty takes on gender and history
>>85082665God nothing grinds my gears more than when people act like they know for a fact the dynamics of how we were prehistory. Show me the evidence that we didn't have fathers like we have now. There is none. Such armchair anthropologist bullshit designed to support whatever dumb argument she is trying to make. The fact we have sexual dymorphism does point to the fact that men have always dominated their women in order to ensure a mate. The fact just about every culture we know of slants towards patriarchy completely discredits her.
>>85082789>crap in front of princes, kings, philosophers>YOU SHOULD BE PAYING ATTENTION TO ME!!!Kill yourself, please.
>Fathers don't exist in nature.
What she's saying actually resonates with me because I've never felt any biological urge to be a father and I don't know if there even is one in the same way that women get hormonal urges to be mothers and start feeling broody when they're around babies.I feel like men don't actually care about having babies and ever man who says otherwise is just acting to appease women. It's always the "happy wife happy life" beta types that tell me they want children.I also hate how society is basically set up to just abandon new parents and let them deal with everything in isolation, none of your neighbours are ever going to look after your kids for you or help you raise them.
>>85082665>fatherhood is not naturalaround 90% of bird species are socially monogamous and paternal investment is the norm. emperor penguins famously fast for months in antarctic winter while incubating eggs on their feet. male emus incubate eggs and raise chicks alone for seven months without eating. male pigeons share incubation duties equally with females. jacanas, where sex roles are reversed, have males who incubate eggs and raise young while females defend territory.for fish, male seahorses carry and give birth to young from a specialized brood pouch. male mouthbrooder cichlids carry fertilized eggs and fry in their mouths for weeks without eating. male stickleback fish build nests, court females, and then guard and fan the eggs alone after the female leaves. male jawfish also mouthbrood eggs until hatching.in mammals, wolf packs are built around a breeding pair with the male providing food for the female and pups and defending territory. for marmosets and tamarins, small new world primates, males carrying infants the majority of the time and sometimes assisting in birth. male beavers are monogamous and help raise kits within the family lodge. prairie voles are among the most monogamous mammals known, with males showing strong paternal care including huddling, grooming, and defending pups. male california mice similarly show high paternal investment and pup survival decreases significantly without paternal presence.(1/2)
>>85082665>>85086398gibbons form long term pair bonds with significant male involvement in offspring care. siamang gibbons specifically have males who carry and care for juveniles extensively. owl monkeys are nocturnal primates where the male is the primary caregiver, carrying infants almost exclusively after the first week of life.male giant water bugs carry eggs on their backs until hatching, sometimes for weeks, cleaning and aerating them continuously. male burying beetles co-parent with females, helping prepare carcasses as food for larvae and feeding larvae directly.and the poison dart frog, where in many species males guard egg clutches and then transport tadpoles on their backs to suitable water sources. male darwin's frogs swallow tadpoles and carry them in their vocal sacs until they metamorphose into froglets.fatherhood is not the universal default, but it's also not some aberration unique to humans.(2/2)
>>85082665i will never read the captions or listen to the words of a bald bitch yappying sorry im just not gonna do it
>>85082789I highly doubt listening to that whore is enriching anything lol
>>85083556>>85083050Quit replying sincerely to a retarded b8 poster. it's the same faggot who sits on here 24/7 posting the same "we needs wars to kill more men" bullshit like the only victims of war are men. They always ignore the massive civilian casualties, dead kids, rapes and other shit about war. It's a fucking retard, quit wasting your time anon. They can't think about anything with any nuance.
>>85086345I think there are men who want to be fathers and have that drive but I don't either. I like fucking but the idea of being stuck to a crazy cow for 18 years because of a child seems like hell to me.
>>85082665She basically just wants women to fuck around with chads freely and have incels foot the bill and help raise the tribe's children. This is modern sexuality taken to its logical extreme. Everyone benefits except for the 95% of sub-chad men.>>85083432The human species has substantial sexual dimorphism due to historic female hypergamy practices. Why do you think men are taller, stronger, smarter, and more attractive than women? Why do you think the ratio of Y-chromosome variants to mitochondrial DNA variants is 1:20. That means that for every unique Y-chromosome, there are 20 unique mtDNAs that exist. 20 different women reproduced with every 1 man. There are far fewer male lineages than female lineages. This means men have been under incredible sexual selection. This incredible sexual selective pressure men have experienced means men have been refined and filtered a lot harder than women have. Women have made men the superior sex by far and wide. Women create the means of their "oppression" and then complain about the "oppression" not realizing that is what women selected for, stronger and more dominant men.
>>85082665>bird handsnah niggaaaaaa
>>85082866>how is being more eugenic "devolving"?not so fast retard
>>85088016further proof women are subhumans who don't deserve to make decisions
