Race is a social construct. There is more variation inside "racial groups" than between them. Race lacks a biological basis. It doesn't exist outside of your social conditioning.
>>85088884>haplogroupsfucking nigger.
you can broadly group together karyotypes with factor analysis or something. yeah yeah it wouldn't be as neat as 'black vs white' or 'African vs European', but you'd have broad clusters that are entirely physiological and identifiable.it can't WHOLLY be a social construct. imagine if doctors ignored race when it came to e.g. skin cancers or sickle cell anaemia.
>>85088884I agree that Race is a social construct anon. But the economy is a social construct, time is a social construct, law is a social construct, so basically something being a social construct doesn't mean it isn't real. Hope you understand!
is pattern recognition real (rhetorical question) okay then race is real
go far enough everything is a social construct. the concept of a hydrogen atom is a social construct. the color red is a social construct. saying something is a 100 meters high is socially constructed.calling race a social construct is meaningless
>>85088884Just because we don't fully undestand the human body doesn't mean that you have to keep your eyes closed
>>85088884I don't know enough about physical anthropology to argue otherwise, but from what I understand you are correct. This is why I consider myself a cultural particularist rather than a race realist. This means my concern is not for the preservation of some "White race," but rather for the particular way of being in the world distinct to my ethnicity. (See Greg Johnson from his essay "Heidegger & Ethnic Nationalism").
>>85089003>(See Greg Johnson from his essay "Heidegger & Ethnic Nationalism").Forgot my link:https://counter-currents.com/2017/06/heidegger-and-ethnic-nationalism-part-1/
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>>85088884I don't understand how people say shit like this, you gotta be retarded. Race is clearly a biological reality
>>85088884Everything is a construct. Our entire reality is constructed, from society and from the individual, even the notion of a society and an individual is constructed. There's not a single thing you'll find in reality that exists in itself.
>>85089036Exactly, this is why the Redditor argument of social construct falls flat.
>>85089003You summed up what I believe in perfectly. I think that the previous replies don't understand that. A healthy society needs fairness, clear rules, and strong trust between people. Seen in westernized european white ones. The main goal should be making sure everyone is happy and safe. Right now, most places in the world ncluding parts of Africa, Europe, and America--fail to do this. Some cultures create better environments that actually help humans survive and thrive much more successfully than others. A good question gets brought up: How do we accomplish that? We can't just eliminate the groups; it's a social construct. They can be reformed. So, how can they be reformed? How long would it take to be reformed? Is it more of a choice of the group being reformed, or the group enforcing the reform?
>>85089008I've never read this. I might check it out. Either way, I learned a new term to identify one of my beliefs: a cultural particularist.
>>85088884Being a social construct doesn't make a category invalid. Thank you for playing.
>>85088969Most human beings have hands. Do we group together the ones that don't? Is there similarities amongst those humans that don't have hands? Similarities such as behavioral characteristics? Does that mean we should assume human beings who don't have hands are a specific group of human beings, and they will almost always have some of those similarities?
>>85088884>There is more variation inside "racial groups" than between themThis doesn't mean anything. Like men and women have a lot of variability in height. A man could be 5'0" or he could be 6'4". A woman could be 5'0" or she could be 6'4". But the average man is 5'9" and the average woman is 5'3". That's to say there is more variability within each group than there is between the two. And yet men are still typically much taller. Now apply this to IQ and races.
>>85089177Your example proves my point, overlap exists, making group averages useless for judging any single individual.
>>85089077>Do we group together the ones that don't?Yes, we group people who have disabilities in with the "disabled", or, we call them "amputee". Hell, I could make a term up that people isn't socially used, "handless". Yes, there are similarities between people without hands, in the first place, that they don't have hands. And with that, probably comes a general struggle that those people share. Do they have similar behavioral characteristics? Maybe they do depending on what the reason is they don't have a hand. These categories are made up, every category is made up, yet, even if delineations like, as an example, liberal or conservative are made up, we'll still find patterns that GENERALLY characterizes each one even if they aren't strictly always applicable. When you say race is a construct you really aren't saying anything meaningful because everything is a construct. Words are just symbols which represent an idea, and that idea is just the map we use to navigate the world. When you're looking at the world the intellect parses it out through these ideas so they it's intelligible. Race is one of those ideas which is highly useful for navigating the world, which we can use to recognize patterns and explain different situations. This is why even if it's not ultimately made up it doesn't matter because that's every single idea we have, it's all made up, and saying race isn't real or it's just a social construct explains absolutely nothing and the only purpose of it is to confuse people or get high off your own farts by engaging in pseudo-intellectualism.>Does that mean we should assume human beings who don't have hands are a specific group of human beings, and they will almost always have some of those similarities?They are useful categories that can inform us about reality. Categories are fuzzy concepts, they do not draw clear distinctions unless it's something like math which has exact quantities. But even math is just made up of course.
>>85089205this is why even if it's ultimately made up*
>>85089205Who decides when you're obsolete?
yeah, but certain races make me hornier than others, so who cares.
Hey guys OP here, I was parodying a retarded faggot lol
>>85089288This isn't me! That's not me! Oh my God, no, I'm gonna get so angry now. Don't do that. Stop!You're making the autism go so angry because you said "OP pretending to be me." You cannot be liquid me. Stop! No! No! No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Well, that's interesting. I said "a bunch of exclamation points," and it did a bunch of exclamation points! A bunch of exclamation points!I sent a bunch of exclamation points. Do a bunch of exclamation points.I said, "Do a bunch of exclamation points." So, add a bunch of exclamation points at the end of the sentence. Yes, I am talking to you, the AI that is integrated with this speech-to-text keyboard.Why did you do it the first time?!!!!!!Why did it add so many that one time? Lots of question marks!
>>85088884peopel cared about their tribe, ingroup, ethnic group or nation long before any of this shit was invented. all this reasoning is just post hoc justification for mass immigration
