How do you responding to this without chudding out?
>>85090960Men are hogh risk high reward. Almost all modern comveniences were also made by men, from science almost entirely done also by men. And typically, it's men who are more for the tough on crime policies that would protect women from rhe worst men, who are a tiny minority of the population
>>85090960sh/ed twitter competitive anorexiawomen in HS being mean as shit to eachother while guy friend groups had relatively few problems
>>85090990*high risk high rewardMost very good things and very bad things come from men
>>85090996>high risk high rewardyou can't even approach stacymeanwhile women just shoot their shot with the local drug dealer every time
>>85091030is this satire? it's hard to tell because women and woman defenders are so unbelievably fucking retarded this might actually be your attempt at "dunking on" anon up there
>>85090960But to procreate we must try hawd n werk togethwer uwu
it's true, total moid death.
>>85090960I heard thier periods attract bears. THEY CAN SMELL THE MESTRUATION
Well you need both genders to propogate the species so no, we actually do need each other
i wonder if women would be okay with bearing the brunt of social stratification. in the developed world they have a lot of advantages that prevent them from falling to the bottom of the social ladder (only 1/4 unhoused people are women iirc). if only women existed i think they would be less satisfied with social hierarchy.
>>85090960If not for men women keeping the wild life in check foids would be getting regularly devoured by wild animals, even if all men magically dispeard after taming the environment and creating modern technology foids would be getting eaten by packs of wild pitbulls that escaped post colapse.
>>85090960Why does this person have big saggy tits?
>>85090960>How do you responding to this without chudding out?You're an ESL.
>>85090960>who are you and why are you talking to me?
>>85090960Almost all the people who maintain the infrastructure which makes industrialized civilization possible are men, and without industrialized civilization the vast majority of modern women would die very quickly.
>>85090960Lesbians beating each other erasure
>>85090960>>I dunno man I dont really think about all that political stuff. Not really comfortable talking about it eitherIf normies can pretend to be too stupid to understand the question then so can I. What would I accomplish winning this argument with this individual in question? I've learnt long ago from the internet that some debates just aren't worth having. Who gives a fuck if I changed one person's heart and mind?
>>85090960I've met a lot of women throughout my life and seen how they live, I just don't buy eden breaking the garden of eden with the apple thing. Men constantly tout change and tech advancement as a male attribute and how women would still be hunter gatherer societies without them. I think they're content with the garden if no one makes waves. Men are usually the ones who demand drastic change.
>>85091636Eve I'm retarded but you all can empathize I'm sure
>>85091642That's a fairy tale, Chud.
>>85091652I'm aware, but stories like that which have a clear bias about women and have managed to serve as cultural and religious foundations for societies which determine the overall leanings morally about women and their place in society as a whole do effect you and your life if you live in most western societies.
>>85091636>women used to buying food in a store, drinking treated and purified water, and sleeping in a bed in a heated home would be content as hunter gatherersYeah no, the majority of them would die, and few of the ones left would be happy about the situation.
>>85091669I'm sure a lot of men make similar mistakes, and I'm sure a few women know how to purify water, so this feels like a moot point. Yeah if tech dissapeared tomorrow a lot of people would die. This feels like an obvious conclusion man.
>>85090960This shit is corny as fuckThis looks like one of those "rappers who are better than eminem" list.Drax or mcroney whatever his name is
>>85091686>if tech dissapeared tomorrow a lot of people would dieYes, and very few women are both physically and mentally capable of learning the jobs needed to maintain critical infrastructure, so OP's whole point of "women don't need men" is blatantly wrong and societally destructive.
>>85091710I just don't believe that women or anyone is mentally incapable of learning things. I can understand that physical limitations might augment how structural tasks are performed but any man currently running critical infrastructure learned how to do so, from previous generations and knowledge which was passed down. Women currently outperform men in education, and I don't think those barriers in trades and blue collar work are simply a lack of desire but the very mentality you have which is that women simply can't do things you personally aren't patient knowledgeable in or willing to share because you've already decided on it yourself. Unless you are Srinivasa Ramanujans spirit inhabiting a dying imageboard I don't think you can earnestly make claims about other people's potential in good faith.
>>85090960>From whom?From wolves
>>85090960literally just self hate. this video speaks to me as rage bait intentionally made to make people chud out just call it out for what it is when ya see it and move on.
>>85091836Idk dude I worked in construction and welding and I know less then 10 woman doing blue collar work. This also includes easier jobs. And I come from an ex commie county so we were more feminists then the West in the past.
>>85091836>Women currently outperform men in educationin humanities, stem, mathematics, physics are still overwhelmingly male
>>85090960>How do you responding to this without chudding out?You respond to this by going 'of course babe :)' then fuck her if she's your gf and/or carry on doing real work and maintaining critical infrastructure. When you get granular about discussion between the sexes it digs up some very uncomfortable truths about men and women nobody wants to talk about because it flies in the face Western liberalist ideals that anyone can be anything and we're all the same deep down wheeeee!, and all the other worthless bumper stick platitudes society has integrated. If you have any awareness and ever spent time around gaggles of women professionally and personally you already know that men and women are different, they approach and parse reality differently, and why men build society and women inhabit the strata they do. If you really want to chudmaxx and shut anyone who says something like this down just ask where all the successful matriarchal societies are. You're not going to win and argument against someone who doesn't know anything about themselves or reality (women). Pearls before swine and all that.
>>85090960This man is being an irresponsible role model to younger men.
>>85090960>How do you responding to thissaaaaar good morning
>>85090960>from whom?SUBHUMANSTHE ANSWER IS SUBHUMANSLIKE ARE WE ALL REALLY GONNA PRETEND THAT RAPISTS AND STRUNG OUT FIENDS COUNT AS "PEOPLE" CMON GET REAL LOLTHATS WHAT YOURE SUPPOSED 2 PROTECT PPL FROM EVEN IF THEY FOR SOME REASON HAVE LIKE INFINITE FORGIVENESS FOR THE WORST PEOPLE ON EARTH EXCLUSIVELY.
>>85090960There have been multiple experiments of women forming a society without men and the result isn't as good as people think
>>85091916we will replace you worthless dalits
>>85091934I would argue that woman from second or third world might be able to create a somewhat functioning society. But the first world woman would just turn into that episode of survivor where man and woman compete against each other.
>>85091957No the reality is that manual labour is needed and the majority of women simply don't want or aren't able to do it, at least consistently and with the same endurance men have. Even when doing physical jobs women do the easier/ less heavy tasks compared to men.
>>85091968That is why I said second or third world, they still do some physical labor. Still they will never be on the level of man.
>>85090960vidrel, why does he kinda look like matpat lole
>>85090960Womeb are going to be slashing their fellow female sisters throats wide open the first week of no food.Idk why bitches think the first week without men is going to be some kind of huge party. Shit is going to hit the fan real quick day 1 when they realize men are behind 99% pretty much everything logistical wise. Not going to even get into the whole running the utilities and all that shit. Majority of men can survive the remaining years without women. Vast majority of women won't survive the first week
>>85090990>that would protect women from rhe worst menwhich just proves the op video right lmao
>>85090960>men killed all predators near civilisation>men built all the safe houses that protects from the elementswe waz queens and sheet and dun need no protections
>>85090960>from other men Like, are decent men being held responsible for the actions of bad ones? This doesn't make any sense.
The number of women who work infrastructure, maintenance, utilities and the energy sector just can't support "all" women. A lot will starve and freeze. But that's fine, because at least there will be four therapists for every individual.
>>85091842Anon is right. The systems that keep away starvation, exposure, wild animals, and violent people are all maintained by men.
>>85092009They could just turn all-female societies into big brothels. Export sex. Import everything else. ez
>>85090960What a stupid argument. Women can only live without men if they are in a society built by men with laws to protect them written by men, eating food grown by men, wearing clothes made by men. Keep warm and not freezing to death in houses made by men.Put women in the jungle or dessert or forest without men's help. Every single one of them will die within 2 weeks.
>>85091636Men make those advances in order to get women to shut up and stop complaining about being uncomfortable.
Rick and morty had an episode like this
>>85094022Glad we can motivate you so well <3
Just show them that Bear Grylls survivor island episode
>>85091068it's okay, I forgive you. I'd still give you a kiss on the cheek and hold your hand
>>85090960Women already know better than anyone that a female only society would not last long and have a catastrophic collapse.All of the violence and chaos that is caused by men is actually far more controlled than people realize.Women are more chaotic, more violent, and less able to control it.
>>85091836>>85091874I think blue collar jobs should be a solid 50/50 gender splitI'm a guy and I don't want to do them tho, I'm fine with women building the pipelines
>>85091528Most wild animals are not interested in humans. They are just a nuisance to agriculture. Bears are kind of a exception. Technically tigers too, but they are basically extinct anyways so who cares
>>85091875For now yes, though if you look at overall trends that is starting to tip as well. Historically the associations we have with particular fields are closely related to gender dynamics in employee demographics. Men used to dominate medicine and education too, and men generally populate the majority of upper division or administrative roles, but as women enter a field en masse it correlates with a general reduction in pay for said fields. I know a lot of women with computer science degrees now and so it doesn't surprise me at all that those fields are now being denigrated as a whole, with massive layoffs and job insecurity. First it was education, now this. Medicine is iffy since it's too crucial but nursing and a lot of what I would classify as specializations under life sciences as a whole is brushed off much more now, with similar sentiments. I can't wait until women start to dominate stem and suddenly those skills are no longer seen as special or worth paying for anymore. Maybe the ouroboros will shuttle men into fine arts again, that would be interesting to see.
>>85091636You are right. I have analyzed this a lot and came to the conclusion that the story of genesis have been tampered with in order to en principle make men avoid any responsibility in the world. But by all means the act of seeking knowledge and defying god in the process is an entirely male and masculine aspiration. In the world of archetypes for a woman to enact masculine role is completely nonsensical.But that tampering is not just retardedly misogynistic, but it also fucking ruins the whole point of this fable driving attention away from it. Because Eve was tempted and fell into it, it makes it a story about ignorance and curiosity, which are not an actual sins going forward at all. The story was supposed to be arrogance and hubris, which is not what a retard following some snakes advice is expressing. But if it was a man, who did it on his own volition, because he wanted to be "like gods" (which is the actual sin that it is supposed to represent, and it is stated directly) - everything becomes more tied together and logical.But then all this deep philosophy is gone and it just becomes haha woman made a mistake and now we are all doomed. Which is fucking stupid cornerstone for a religion.
>>85092047actually in africa traditionally women are the ones who build houses. and since they are direct inheritors of fucking stone age, likely that women in general built first houses.
>>85093865There is a girl who was abandoned in the jungle in brasil and she survived 6 years there alone building a family with monkes
>>85090960This reminds me of the time whdre bear grills did a tv show of guests of surviving on an island. The teams were split into men and women. The men basically excelled at everything and the women almost failed to make fire and might had to cancel the thing due to it.Also the general statement of one can/'t live without the other is beyond retarded and whoever poses a question like that should be beaten. If a r9k male and female both got thrown into the wild, they'll both probably either succeed or die independent of gender. Literally the foundation of our actual success is knowledge which is universal. I guess you can be padentic and say motor reflexes or critical thinking skills but that's gay and you know it.
>>85095239I think your interpretation makes a lot of sense honestly. I also see it as a coming of age for humanity thing, like the point at which the child usurps his father, the natural progression of age in the scope of growth and strength. The betrayal being embedded in the emotional realization that you are no longer needed. I think it's something all humans must grapple with to a certain extent and it is bittersweet but essential to come to terms with.
>>85093865Your clothes were most likely made by a woman, and even more likely some destitute asian women enslaved in a warehouse somewhere and food is a pretty interesting field since it's one of the few where what is considered "low skill labor" leans towards men whereas wholesale and logistical positions typically are heavily populated by women. It also can vary quite a lot depending on the region. Globally the ratio is only slightly skewed towards men.
>>85090960From starvation. From dehydration.From exposure to the elements. From natural disasters From bears.
>>85090960>hey babe I posted it can i have sex now???
>>85092017women are just too intellectually and physically incompetent to even do crime.They cant even shoot guns without breaking their wrists.
>>85091636>Men are usually the ones who demand drastic change.No, men are the ones to enact the change. It's still women demanding it. If it weren't for women, men would still be sitting around in huts. Just look at the empty rooms of single men. We need very little to be happy. Women need everything in the world and it's never enough.
>>85091836>I just don't believe that women or anyone is mentally incapable of learning things.It's not about capability. It's about willingness.
>>85095501Sure I mean some men here are perfectly content to piss in bottles and nut in the same sock for several years but I wouldn't consider that a glowing boon or indicative of some enlightened male minimalist living. Women have certain social expectations on them which can often include things like maintaining social connections and hosting events where the goal is to manage multiple people's comfort and wellbeing for the duration of the event or visit. Men who never initiate or make efforts to be open and receptive to new people or invite them into their space, for example, would find no purchase in all the small compounding tasks which achieve that goal. You might be content to invite a new friend to your smelly apartment with nothing to offer them but stale sink water and leftovers, and for some that kind of casual approach might be fine, but I bet you wouldn't scoff at being in a nicely decorated room with a warm meal made with your preferences in mind ever either.
>>85091957>I would argue that woman from second or third world might be able to create a somewhat functioning society.Yes, but the eventual division of labor will just split women into two subcategories with a bunch of bulldikes doing all the work while the pretty ones sitting offices complain about bullshit.
>>85095661Stop please anon I can only get so aroused
>>85090960Only possible because women are married to the state now, which gives them access to tax dollars and labor and discoveries/inventions/laws/goods/services provided by men without actually needing to interact with men. Meanwhile the only things men need from women (sex/children) can't be outsourced so we can't cry to Daddy Government to replace the opposite sex the way women can. Put 100 random first world women on a deserted island, then come back in a month and ask them if they need men.
>>85095585>Sure I mean some men here are perfectly content to piss in bottles and nut in the same sock for several years but I wouldn't consider that a glowing boon or indicative of some enlightened male minimalist living.Yeah, it doesn't matter though. The point is, without women, men are content with nothing. >Women have certain social expectations on them which can often include things likeAnd that's how women are the driving force of change. We didn't do any of this for us. We're just trying to meet expectations
>>85090960>How do you respond to this without chudding out?By sounding like a faggot.Picrel
>>85090960>How do you responding to this without chudding out?Hope she sees this bro
You're giving off pick me energy, like some kind of fag.
You think if men didn't exist women would be fucking the male animals?
>>85090960I'm not even a chud and I KIND OF agree with the core sentiment that the "women must be PROTECTED" thing is silly but like... by what standards does he even mean? socially? logistically? interpersonally? reproductively? because outside of some dystopian thought experiment-only future where every woman is getting artificially inseminated, I don't really see how either men or women aren't sort of in the same boat given the absence of the other. plenty of men get by without women from a relational and interpersonal perspective, if anything that's actually becoming more normal; certainly much more normal than a hetero woman never getting involved with a man at any point in her life. logistically men are probably more important to the workforce to some degree, especially given the resurgence in trades due to how AI will likely impact white collar work, but historically women have taken up blue collar work in times of war so it's not like they're incapable, so that's kind of a null point on both sides especially given our current economy and the dynamics of building a home. reproductively I guess artificial wombs are further behind than artificial insemination but you still need guys for the semen? posts like this are just stupid as are pretty much all gender war posts, even when they "mean well" like this one. the reality is life is a lot more enjoyable when men and women can coexist and everyone isn't retarded, mentally ill, or pretending weird unnatural dynamics are normal and acceptable because of blatant social media brainwashing
>>85096668>You think if men didn't exist women would be fucking the male animals?They already do, and then sell the videos
>>85095803I guess it doesn't matter for men, if you all do the bare minimum and just tolerate one another at a distance, everything would be small, generic and cut to the absolute bare necessities then. You can equate men to an additive process, a clay with woman as subtractive but refining, Separating the wheat from the chaff based on your perspective.
>>85095585I'm a guy, most of my friends are women, and my apartment is significantly cleaner and more well decorated than literally anyone else I know personally - and that's precisely why I almost never like having people over. it's for my enjoyment and maybe occasionally the enjoyment of a very select few, but having multiple people in my space at once drives me absolutely insane. it almost defeats the point. p sure in my case it's partially an aspie/ADHD thing. I'm anal about cleanliness and organization, mostly because in my teens and 20s I wasn't and it made me totally incapable of focusing or de-stressing properly, I'm also an artfag design snob who hates when environments fuck with my senses or are aesthetically jarring. ngl one of the biggest forms of intimacy I can share with a person is open access to my living space, in any romantic relationship that usually comes last for me and can sometimes take a while. I've had issues with girls in the past about entertaining at my spot or them wanting to come over all the time lmao, but I think there's a fundamental difference in how a lot of men and a lot of women view the utility of "space." sounds like you view it as something to share and enjoy it through that, whereas I think a lot of guys view their space more as a sanctuary and not so much as a place for socializing, even if they've invested a lot into it.
>>85090960>"From themselves?"It's that simple really, not to mention they would have to fight off wild animals because men would stop doing that as well
what world is everyone living in where men are suddenly regularly protecting women from rapists and wild animals? why is this such a common normie talking point atm? it's so stupid please get off tik tok
