>>85091919
If I don't make it big selling cute plushies I'm blowing my brains out >o<

>>85091919
Yes. I dropped out of college and joined a trade after 2 years of being a NEET. I won't tell you it's a great job and I love my life because both of those things are miles from the truth. The only advantages are job security and wages, if those mean anything to you. Most trades are so simple a nigger could do them which means you would really have to mess up to get fired, and even if you did, there are dozens of other companies that would take you instantly. I make 35 dollars an hour after doing this job for 3 years and it's more money than I can spend. I save basically everything I make because I don't have any hobbies and put some of the money in extremely safe, guaranteed return investments. But that's just one part of life and the most unenjoyable, at that. What is the purpose of money? A house or early retirement would be nice. As for relationships, I've given up hope. I'll die just as lonely and sad as I am now.

>>85091965
Trades require schooling as well. What, did you know a guy who knew a guy? Give me a fuckin' break. You don't "just start" anything, except for some dumb timesink hobby. Anything else has a proper course and gatekeepers.

>>85091983
Are you retarded? The course for most if not all trades is six months and completely optional. They're some of the only jobs left that will train you on site. You ride along with a dude in the work van until you're competent enough to do it yourself. You're just a lazy faggot that's never even tried to get a job and want to play the poor little victim. Kill yourself.

>>85091965
problem is, im close to 40 and going and doing a physical trade does not seem that alluring
pay in europe is not amazing either not shit though
i mean you will make an average pay
but you still need education and years before u are qualified for a full pay
and then i crawl on my knees for 30 more years until im 70? thats crazy work
im literally too old

>>85092027
as im in europe i prolly need like 1-1,5 years to do basic courses in like electric
then you either start of a apprentice or year 1 electrician and shit like that
as i said idk man
i could have done this 2 years ago but i chose another meme thng because it didnt matter and i wanted to finish my grades to get my hs done regardless
maybe i should have taken the electrician meme
but again i dont wanna crawl on my knees until 70 most likely

>>85092027
With all that money you LARP making, you could buy a sarco pod. What a dumb, greasy nigger you are. I am not lazy. You are a privilege faggot and what you are saying is guaranteed wrong. You HAVE to go to school for a fucking trade. Someone should knock your fucking teeth out.

>>85091919
I started putting my masters degree in chemistry to work. Not saying that I feel good about what I do but I make a ton of money off of it.

>>85091965
>job security
yep
I work as a caregiver
just starting out so I make about 2.5k, a few more years of experience and if I decide to do private care, I'll probably make 5k min.

>>85092150
What you make meth or something?

>>85092150
based. chemists always have this option. either this or making bombs

>>85091983
Lol no. To get into trades these days you're going to NEED connections. A certification isn't enough to get noticed.

>>85092179
Haven't sunken that low yet. Molly, 2CB, ket, ket derivatives. I also grow mushrooms on the side.

>>85092150
ok how is that gonna help me

>>85092174
i cant get a job doing that retard sht and i really dont wanna either

>>85091919
friends make it worth it desu

>>85092468
no
hanging around other poor people only so much your mental state can handle

>>85092474
i get what you mean but thats why i hang out with people who are poor but mature, responsible, self-aware, and relatively stable rather than people who are just wholly stunted.

when you're organized and get along well you can do shit like trips to the food bank together, make meals for each other, borrow things, body double with chores, smoke weed at the park, etc.

>>85092976
hanging out with people is effectvely useless for me
unless im building a business with smoeone its literally totally pointless

>>85093225
i mean if thats really how you are ig that's fine. is there anything beautiful about the world that keeps you going?

>>85093379
no i cant relax when my life is one step away from disintegrating every second
slowly improving just to reach a baseline (able to pay thngs, get mnoey on time, have a job, have a living) has not even been reached yet
how am i supposed to even thnk aboutu anythinig when baseline human needs havent even been done yet?
cant even plan long term or move on t the next problem because i havent even solved the basic thnigs yet

if you dont do THE THNG everyhing disintegrates and get evne wore over tim

jisut tryign t live lie a normal person but tis incnrieniblkty hard btw

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>>85093403
yeah, is kinda hard when everything is stressful as hell. i guess it depends on whether youre in a place where you have any extra time on your hands or not.

the positive of being 100% grindset busy is hopefully getting more stable faster. I hope some sense of stability comes to you soon

on the other hand, if theres any enough downtime where you feel tired and depressed and unproductive. that could be time to try to make connections. even if its just finding someone to vent with over a beer every once in a while. can make it all more bearable.

idk i dont have any good answers. wish shit wasnt so hard for everyone. but i wanna believe its worth it and that for you it will be worth it.

>>85093525
everything would be solved with money for a short period of time
once all my things are solved I dont gve a fuck if i live purely on wellfare for the next 1-10 years because I dont need money and I would be able to relax and enjoy my day to day
for now i need more money