Every now and then, I've heard people say something to the extent of "well, obviously you wouldn't want to be dated out of pity". But as an unattractive man who has never ever experienced any romance with women and who is hurting so much because of that... no, I absolutely want a woman to date me out of pity. I'd rather have a woman date me out of pity than because she finds me attractive. "I'm attracted to him" is the main reason women date men, it's so normal and boring and dull that way. It wouldn't be special unless she's dating me out of pity. And I want to get to feel special. If a woman dated me without being motivated by pity, it would feel so empty and stupidOf course no woman is lonely enough to ever date me in any way, the normal way or out of pity, so it hardly matters anyway. But it's frustrating knowing that pity dating is even less realistic than normal dating
>>85092886Where do you live? i will do it if you also settle for me
>>85092902Doesn't matter where I live. You could always date long distance. But you won't because I'm not Chad and will never make any effort to be desirable according to women's bullshit standards.
>>85092910>will never make any effortSo why should any woman date you? lol
>>85092886Getting dumped hurts more than staying single, you don't want a pity date because that's only ever going to be temporary. Pity runs dry.
>>85092910Oh you live in New England, you're THAT robot. The feminist one who would refuse to have regular sex.
>>85092910Dating long distance is draining and almost like talking with a chatbot. don't you want physical affection?
>>85092886You under estimate a hungry person's ability to eat off the floor.
>>85092886i know who you are, i'll date you if you cut your hair
>>85092917never compromise to a bitchnever let no hoe unplug your playstationnever let no hoe deny you a race car bed
>>85092886>pity-dateno such thing. it's a lie perpetrated by pop culture. doesn't exist in real life.
>>85092886oki but would u date a unattractive woman I dont think so
If you don't care about meeting I'll ever why don't you just talk to a chat bot?
>>85092917Women no longer need to make effort to be attractive or perform traditional gender roles and beauty standards. Women can simply have "basic decency" and still have plenty of romantic options without needing to change themselves for someone else. Of course women fucking despise those options that they have that way, but the fact remains that they are still optionsAll I want is fairness in that regard. I support equality. >>85092919>Getting dumped hurts more than staying single"Having a home and then losing it hurts more than always being homeless" the deranged rantings of the privileged >you don't want a pity date because that's only ever going to be temporary. Pity runs dry.I do want a pity date, actually. Maybe you don't want one, but other people want different things than what you want. And so what about temporary? Everything is temporary. Death awaits us all, after all.
>>85092930Dating long distance isn't draining, being actually alone is draining. Talking with a chatbot and talking with a human are two different things. Maybe you just don't care about romance as much as I do. >>85092936I will never cut my hair. Women don't need to change themselves in order to get romance so I shouldn't need to change myself either. I want to be accepted for who I am, and if I have to have short masculine hair like the chads y'all want, then it's not accepting me for who I am. >>85092942The reason it doesn't exist is because women are so supportive of traditional gender roles that they despise lonely, struggling men, and the idea of pitying us disgusts them. But they don't need to think that way >>85092946Yes, I gladly would. Where are the unattractive women willing to pity date me?>>85092948Chat bots aren't people, they just imitate speech. I want an actual connection. Maybe women are too picky to care about human connection over long distance but not all of us are so privileged and unromantic
>>85092946Are you an unattractive woman? And are you an unattractive woman who would date unattractive men, or are you an unattractive woman who is just looking for bullshit excuses to justify not dating unattractive men?
>>85093331i date any guy who wants me
>>85093392Are you a single female? If so, I want you to pity date me. Stop being so picky and settle for me even though you won't ever be happy because I won't make effort to be Chad.
>>85093421pity date how u are probably like so far away
>>85093451You should stop being so opposed to long distance romance. It just shows that you are shallow, if you can't stand the idea of long distance romance
>>85093470hey I had a long distance relationship before and it didn't go well I have tried and ur being mean
>>85093484You could always have another long distance relationship. And you are the one being mean by not dating me. I'm a nice guy, it's just that nobody gives me a chance
>>85093508okay can I date u
>>85093536Are you conservative? Conservatism is evil. I don't have standards for looks or for the shallow aspects of personality like gender roles and shit, but I do strongly care about basic decency, and at this point given the state of the world, it's kind of not decent to not support progressive left leaning values
>>85093556i dont care about politics or religion
>>85092886That's not a thing anymore.Used to sorta but not really be a thing in the 90s and 2000s but those days are over.
I bet OP is gonna drive away everyone who talks to him from this thread and he'll be back posting "but nobody ever gives me a chance" like this thread never even happened. I bet other women have given him a chance and we're repulsed by him after talking to him 1 on 1 for a little while.
>>85093562Do you not care about your own rights, your own equality? Regardless, it's pretty fucked up to not care about politics in general, there's a worldwide wave of hate against many vulnerable and historically marginalized groups, as well as a push against egalitarianism, a growing disrespect towards basic institutions and democracy, a growing affordability crisis and continued poverty while the rich just grow richer and more powerful. These things are all really bad things and it's just kinda gross for someone to not be bothered by them and not care about them. >>85093574That sucks. I wish it was still a thing
>>85093604Women get repulsed talking to me because they hate that I'm genuinely unattractive, or they hate that my progressive political values aren't just virtue signalling/wokefishing and they hate that I genuinely care about the stuff I believe in and am not secretly a conservative. Sucks that there's no progressive women who would ever settle for me and have pity on me
>>85093605see I can't date you because you're being like this I do care about those things but what am I supposed to do about them
>>85093627You're supposed to hound disinterested strangers who are equally unable to do anything about it obviously.
>>85093643I hope you understand what im saying
>>85093627There's plenty of room for engaging in activism. When it comes to big, national level politics, you can only ever be a drop in the bucket, but many drops together can make a difference. And volunteering to help people in need can make a difference, even if a small one, too. And a decent chunk of politics is local (at least in the US, idk where you are from), for example a lot of housing policy is largely done at the local town level across the country. There's a huge issue of "exclusionary zoning" by an unholy alliance of big money landowners/corporations and middle class homeowners who just want their property values to keep rising and/or don't want poorer people to be able to move next to them, who support restrictive zoning laws to artificially restrict supply and make housing more expensive (less affordable). And at the local level, turnout tends to be very low, and partisan affiliation also less polarized, so there can be a lot more room for potential activism to help with housing. Just as one example of how even the lowest level politics mattersAnd if you care about those issues, then you care about politics. When you say you don't care about politics, it kinda implies the opposite. Its reasonable for someone who cares about this stuff to be worried by such a statement
>>85093605Even then it wasn't really that big a thing. Like at best it was a dude maybe got a pitty fuck or two. Then you blame it on tee hee I was drunk.A pitty date never worked out because dates are supposed to evolve in to relationships. Relationships don't work if you are only doing it out of pity and the other is hopelessly in love.Like imagine dating some ugly fat chick you were friends with. You know she likes you but you are grossed out by the thought of getting physical with her.>Go on pity date cause you feel bad for you. It goes okay but she thinks it's the best shit ever.Now either you keep doing that, or you break her heart and tell her being romantic with her is a mistake. >If you keep doing that you don't slowly break down the walls (which is possible with friends to happen but not if dating happens out of pity). Then every show of affection is disgusting to you. Or you break her by telling her to role it back and making her feel bad for wanting love. Or you break their illusion of love for you and she breaks things off which angers you cause you were only doing it for them>Tell them they were a mistake, watch them get deviated.At least the pity fuck was able to be written off as a mistake. It was a 50/50 shot of backfiring or being an actual good Samaritan deed. What was interesting is if it turned out the pity fuck dude had great sexual chemistry and was willing to accept "you don't like me, and you got drunk and fucked just anyone. I'm happy it happened but I won't persue it anymore" sometimes that flipped things around (happened to me)Don't romanticize it. It wasn't as great as it sounds and the amount of guy who did "woe is me" emotional blackmail bullshit was way too high cause they were exploiting that shit too much
>>85093709I live in Norway so there are differences but yeah I do care about those issues
but I hope you find what you are looking for
>>85093723>Like imagine dating some ugly fat chick you were friends with. You know she likes you but you are grossed out by the thought of getting physical with her.I'm an incel, not some picky Chad. I'd be more than happy to date an overweight woman who wasn't conventionally attractive. If we were friends already, I'd probably struggle with the whole "dating out of pity rather than because I like her" thing, because I'm not friends with folks who I don't think are nice. But I'd at least make the effort to try and pity her if she wanted, rather than insisting that it would be insulting to pity her or whatever >>85093737Well then you could always lower your standards and date me. But I guess your standards aren't Os lo(w) as they'd need to be in order to settle for me. Ale sunds from your mouth to me will just be how ger-hard-sen it is for you to settle for me the way I am
>>85093929i am interested but you push me away
>>85093971When he pushes you away you're supposed to say "poor guy, that's just how he is, no wonder he's having such a hard time finding love" and cling to him harder, even though he knows he's actively pushing you away too.
>>85094008i am clinging that's why im still here ! !
>>85093392You would. ekekek
>>85093604And the cycle repeats. Maybe it's one of those Trump art of the deals where he causes the problem then solves it for the glory.
>>85094061dont laugh at me
>>85093971The only "pushing away" happened when it kinda sounded like you were conservative, and my continued engagement once you suggested otherwise makes it clear I'm not doing that>>85094008Women get to expect men to show desire and take initiative and show interest, but us men of course can't expect the same thing, because god forbid we get rid of horrid gender role crap
>>85094103im not conservative :c not at all
>>85094103>>85094103That's not going to change, you're just going to get passed over. Even the most liberated woman is going to give priority treatment to men who take the initiative. It's not about gender roles, it's about intrasex competition. If you don't take initiative, other men are, and it sucks to suck. A world where people who suck get the same results as people who don't suck isnt actually a better world.
>>85094169if you dont send letters dont expect letters
>>85094210exactly, in a twisted way, OP is taking initiative and showing desire by making this thread, just instead of finding a woman he desires he's just casting a net and you fell into it because whatever is wrong with you that this works on you.I guess desires are conservative though? OP doesn't desire any woman in particular and doesn't seek to be in a relationship based on mutual desire, he wants to find a pitiable woman who will settle for a pity relationship with him.
>>85094241op is being difficult
>>85094286I would date you instead except you're in the wrong continent. Unironically I could date you if you were as far away from me as OP, I'm pretty sure we're in the same state in the US.
>>85094161So we've established>>85094169Women should simply stop being like that>>85094210But women get to expect letters without having sent letters. That's sexist and really hurts as a man. Also that's... pretty conservative! >>85094286I'm not the one being difficult here
>>85094303>women should stop being like thatthat's stupid. If women were going out of their way to pick me and try to get with me, why would I take the initiative with women who are not doing that? I would just pick from the options that are falling into my lap. The only reason men pursue is because options don't fall into their lap, and they would rather solve the problem of being alone than live with being alone.Also men who go out and seek what they want is attractive to women. Why would anyone want to attach themselves to someone who brings them problems and doesn't look for solutions? That's not even a gender thing, why would a man want to attach himself to a woman who brings him problems too?
>>85094303but Im not like that ! im going away now
>>85094359There you go. You're the one being difficult by not settling for me. Typical. You have options and just choose not to take them.>>85094338Nah. Women get to have men ask them out so men should get to have women ask us out. Fair's fair. It's that simple.
>>85094390you had a woman ask you out ITT and you pushed her away.
>>85093929I guess a better example in that case is imagine you gave a tranny friend a pity date.
>>85094405I didn't push her away, she just refused to accept me for who I was. If "just being myself" is "pushing someone away" to you, you are being unreasonable
>>85094413when are we gonna hang out irl dude?
>>85094390I do want you
>>85094421Never. I want females to hang out with me and none ever will
>>85094424Then lower your standards and settle for meGot any contact information so we can talk?
>>85094425i think you should lower your standards and accept me as i am for platonic IRL quality time.
>>85094434i have discord and snapchat my discord is helen099027
>>85092886I think I get where you're coming from OP.I've come to terms with the fact that looks matter and, although I have some redeeming qualities, my face and body simply lack the necessary appeal to spark desire in a woman.For many years I committed to losing weight, improving my fitness, fixing my teeth, dressing better, working on my social skills etc. all in hopes of finding the intense, passionate kind of romance that I craved.After never finding anything remotely like that, even at my peak, I now understand that it is a privilege of the beautiful.Eventually I just sort of accepted that it wasn't for me and went back to my solitary ways, intending to never subject myself to the humiliation of being settled for.I didn't want to be the guy that women admit to loving but not being _in love_ with.Now that I'm older, I no longer resent that idea.If I could find a genuine friendship with a woman whose perspective and personality complement my own, I wouldn't feel cucked to receive intimacy and affection on the basis of mutual respect and understanding.Easier said than done of course, genuine friendship is a really tall order. Perhaps even rarer than what I was chasing before.
>>85093737>>85093484no way you are rebounding on 4chan bro
