The claim that 1 in 5, or 1 in 4, or 1 in 3 (depending on whatever biased source you cite) women have been raped is a LIEUsing FBI data we can see that 16,395 males were arrested in the year of 2019 for rapeThis specific data source only covers 2/3 of the US population so adjusting for that, its around 25,000 male arrests per yearLet's make three big assumptions: that this is only 1/10th of the actual number of rapes, that each rapist has raped at least two women, and that no woman is raped more than once. This brings our heavily inflated number up to about 500,000 rapes per year.To reach a 1 in 5 number that would require 68 years of rape to reach that number, 113 years for the 1 in 3 figure. Simply too long of a timespan for these stats to make any sense.
Typical moid trying to downplay his gender's evil.
>shit nobody cares about: the thread >original post
>>8519997370 million babies are killed worldwide each year by abortion but all i see is women calling it healthcare
>>85199976If you don't care about it then why did you spend time typing that out and doing the captcha? Seems like you don't know how to properly use your time
>>85199942Do you think anyone actually believe those every woman has been raped claims?
As I recall, the claim originates with some Australian "researcher", running a query with a handful abused women and "rape" was never even specified. It was asking an abused woman how many of the women she knew were also abused. Something like that.You really don't have to dive into data modelling to refute feminist claims. Go to where they get THEIR numbers and the spotlight put on that will dismantle any claim they got. They're retarded neckbeard redditor pseuds, but female and taken seriously for political reasons. Zero scientific rigor.
>>85200012Women will believe it because they have a much larger in-group bias than men and because they hate all men (non-Chads for simply existing and Chads for not picking them). I have heard some of these "rape" stories and by God all of the stereotypes about them lying and exaggerating are real
>>85200007To show you how much I don't care, obviously. However, I'm not saying I don't personally care (even though I don't), I'm saying the vast majority of people don't obsess endlessly over rape statistics like robots and terminally online "people" do.
>>85200012Not, OP, but you must be new to the wider public, if you don't think a firm 50% at least doesn't roll over for the peer pressure-emulating media noise and believes anything they're beaten over the head with. They believe earnestly and live it in their hearts. People call them NPCs, but seems like, most can't truly believe they're out there.
>>85200021Even the CDC has published reports that propagate this claim stating that 1 in 4 experience "rape or sexual abuse" in their lifetime. Of course it is all self-reported
>>85200026I find it quite ironic that a black person uses the word "people" in quotation marks. Carry on.
>>8520000093% of those abortions are in the first trimester and 25% of born children have no present father.
>>85200052>93% of those abortions are in the first trimesterAnd? Even just looking at abortions after 20 weeks that still trumps the number of homicides in the US. Even before 20 weeks it is still a human with human DNA and its own heart.>25% of born children have no present fatherWow sounds like the women that chose to have kids with deadbeats that wouldn't commit are the dumb ones here. It takes two to tango
>>85199942that's a lot of mansplaining, doesn't change the fact that 97% of men are rapists
>>85199942How many women and children have you raped
>>85200051Of course we're not people, we're demigods.
>>85200075>97% of men are rapistsMe when I can't statistics lol
>>85199942This is all on the assumption that all rapists are prosecuted and this accurately represents how much rape is actually going on. Most women don't even report their sexual assault, either because of shame or fear or it being too much of a headache. Like, do you realize how difficult it is to actually go through the entire legal process and convict someone?
>>85200075maybe if women weren't small and weak and undetermined they could actually commit a crimeskill issue
>>85200276>This is all on the assumption that all rapists are prosecuted and this accurately represents how much rape is actually going on. Most women don't even report their sexual assaultDid you even try to read the post? It explicitly inflates the number of rapes per year to account for this>Most women don't even report their sexual assaultbecause most of the time there is nothing to report
>>85200070Can you stop pretending this is about human life when you're racist you just want white women to birth white children against their will
How dumb do you have to be to think all rapes involve someone getting charged?
>>85200276>rape is the worst thing that someone can do to a woman and it permanently scars her both mentally and physically>also women can't be expected to report rape to the police because it's like, hard and stuff
>>85200328Try rereading the post you fucking idiot. The number is inflated 20 fold to account for muh underreporting (which is itself a dubious claim)
>>85199942Why do feminists obsess over rape then vote for more rape?
>>85200361>which is itself a dubious claimSource?
>>85200350>rape is the worst thing that someone can do to a woman and it permanently scars her both mentally and physically>muh why don't women want to have to relive it over the course of several months, with numerous police interviews and court hearings, whilst being berated and called a lying whore???Do you hold this same attitude towards children who are molested and don't come forward because they're ashamed and afraid?
>>85200403Your appeals to emotion won't work on me. If women cannot be adults and report when they've been violated, then it's not serious enough for me to give a shit. Be a fucking grown up and report crimes. Your post insinuates that women are children, btw
>>85200163no, you literally cannot statistics. it says men commit 97% of rapes.
>>85200398The source is common sense. The only way to objectively measure rape would be with rape kits and trials. All other kinds are self-reported data which is going to be prone to fabrications and exaggerations.
>>85200420There are plenty of reasons why women don't report rapes:Fear of retaliation from the perpetrator, especially when it's a partner, family member, or someone with power over them (boss, coach).Fear of not being believed, or being blamed for what happened. Shame, self-blame, or fear of being stigmatized by their community.Most assaults are committed by someone the victim knows, which complicates reporting emotionally and practically (family ties, shared social circles, financial dependence).Reporting often means invasive medical exams, repeated retelling of the assault, and a legal process that can take years with low conviction rates.Distrust of police or the justice system, sometimes based on past experience or awareness of how other cases were handled. Concern that the case won't be taken seriously or investigated properly.Dissociation, shock, or wanting to move past the experience rather than relive it through a legal process.US Bureau of Justice Statistics data has consistently shown that a majority of rapes and sexual assaults go unreported, and "fear of reprisal" and "belief that police wouldn't help" are among the most cited reasons in victim surveys.The Me Too shit only really exists in hyperreality. In real life, this shit often puts people in "he said, she said" situations. The last thing you want to do after being raped is have a doctor put shit inside of you.
>>85200440>The source is common sensemoids can't be real
>>85200447>big wall text generated by AIOnce again, be a fucking ADULT and report crimes to the police. You never see people make this many excuses for other crimes. I know of a teenage girl that was raped by 3 boys and she instantly gathered evidence and reported it the next day. Learn how to be a fucking adult and stop whining about muh its too hard I can't do it I'm helpless
The vast majority don't report. The vast majority of reports don't lead to arrest. Far less lead to convictions.RAINN puts it at 95% of sexual assaults not leading to arrests, so if we assume the true rape rate is 20x, then the lifetime 60 year rape rate would approximately be 17%. The 1 in 3-5 number usually includes attempts, sexual assault of other kinds, etc., though, not true rape. You're going to need something better than "uhhh nothing bad has ever happened to me but like if I got raped and was sure my rapist would walk free, I'd love to talk to the cops".
I once had a girl in class tell the story of her "rape" when it was really just regret after sex.
>>85200510>95% of sexual assaults not leading to arrestsOnce again those are all self-reported data by its very nature. Women are also liars and manipulators by their very nature, and when victimhood is encouraged in this society they're of course going to take advantage of it
>>85200760No rapes have ever happened unless they're recorded, you're right. I wonder why nobody takes this opinion seriously, though?
>>85200779Even if it's on video, she could just be lying and she really wants it. I don't think rape could ever exist given the nature of women.
>>85200779>No rapes have ever happened unless they're recorded, you're right.Foid gets mad at the existence of the concept of evidence
>>85199942No bro you dfon't understand you're not including sex that happened years ago and was regretted therefore RAPE
Most cops are rapists so not sure why they would wanna hear about a rape
>>85200799Testimony is evidence
>>85200808And it's considered the least reliable type on its own since you can just lie and make shit up
>>85200838Rapists lie and make shit up
>>85200846You're the one making the claim it happened, the burden of proof is on you. YWNBAW
>>85200850Burden of proof my ass, BELIEVE my fabricated rape claim or you're evil
>>85200075i dont think i got an answer last time, have you been raped?
>>85199942You know one man can rape multiple women, right?
>>85200850>YWNBAWNo shit. I'm an adult male. Fucking weirdo
I don't really see how it matters considering women's rights exist because of men. If men rose up tomorrow, or even decided not to go into work, the system would collapse. It's why I really don't care about what women say anymore.
>>85200865NTA but I've been the victim of a crime before and I reported it to the proper agencies like a responsible and competent adult
>>85200422which isn't the same as 97% of men being rapists
>>85200875Oh so you're a faggot instead?
>>85200838Why would women very consistently lie for no benefit?>>85200874Even if we assume 1 rapist: 1 woman, the number would still be ~17% of women raped in a 60 year period given 95% of rapes don't lead to arrests.>>85200878>bro men could rise up bro!>t. neet incel
>>85200901There is a benefit and that 95% figure is simply not true.
>>85200912What is the benefit of lying to researchers? What is your evidence they're all lying? I need a genuine piece of research, not just vibes. If I don't see a link in your response, I consider that a concession.
>>85200896>Oh so you're a faggot insteadNice projection faggot. How many men have you raped?
>>85200932>What is the benefit of lying in this society that encourages victimhood and neuroticism and these lies can ruin the lives of people that you dislike?40% of rape accusations are false per this study, since you want a link so badlypubmed.ncbi.nih.gov/8135653Ones that use lie detectors show as high as 75%
>>85200932The more women claim victimhood status the better society treats them. Women straight up get lighter sentences for the same crime because everyone knows they are weak and pathetic and feels bad
>>85200977We should put random men on a lie detector and ask them about rape. Lmao
>>85200496"AI" and I literally just Googled and read some pages about this. Easy enough. You are just not emotionally intelligent to understand why it isn't that easy and the mental issues it immediately causes, especially with the fact that so many cases go on forever with no conviction or consequences for the rapist. Plenty of victims just end up getting dismissed and nothing happens. Would you not fear retaliation and retribution from the rapist or the people you intermingle with? I'm glad that girl had a good support system to help her through that, but many, MANY do not.
>>85200977>broken link>lie detectorslol>>85200982No research but also why wouldn't they still report the rapes?
>>85201005If a victim gets ignored then she lives in a third world shithole or doesn't have enough evidence (because she probably made it up)
>>85201016>No research but also why wouldn't they still report the rapes?You're the one claiming they're not reporting it
>>85201016pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8135653FixedThey lie to researchers because they will lie to get sympathy points. Many have even convinced themselves that the sex they had 4 years ago was rape because she doesn't vibe with the guy anymore
>>85200977This study is just straight up bogus. One small town police department, 109 cases, and the "false" determination was made entirely by the police officers involved, not independently verified.The guy who made the study said, himself, not to generalize from it. That department also used the threat of a polygraph to pressure complainants, which produces recantations regardless of what happened. Polygraphs aren't scientifically reliable lie detectors, and that's why they're not admissible in court.The actual consensus across better designed studies is 2-10% false reports, in line with false report rates for other crimes. Happy to send you the citations if you want them.
>>85201037The police provide no evidence that any of those rapes didn't happen. That's just the word of the famously diligent cops in the early 90s/late 80s.
>>85201058>>85201070>That doesn't count because it just doesn't>99.9% of men rapist though because my friend sandra said she was raped
>>85201058>The actual consensus across better designed studies is 2-10% false reportsThe "actual" concensus and its just different stricter methods of qualifying "false" accusations (like definitive proof of lying). All of the complaints you made in the first couple lines also apply to literally every study ever (i.e. limited sample sizes). Kanin's methods are good because they encompass other ways of filtering out liars, you just don't like his numbers because they don't align with your views.Shut the fuck up you faggot.
>>85201070>the police didn't provide evidence of a negativeNigga... you cannot prove negatives outside of alibis in this case.
>>85200302Such a stupid statement. Please try to argue a point instead of hallucinating ridiculous things in an attempt to save face.
>>85201018Sexual assault is unusual among violent crimes in that it often has no witnesses, no physical evidence if reported even a day or two late, and requires proving lack of consent, which is inherently hard to document.Federal data shows that for every 1000 sexual assaults, only 50 reports lead to an arrest, only 28 result in a felony conviction, and only 25 end in incarceration.There's many reasons: victims not reporting at all (for all the reasons I stated before), police declining to pursue, prosecutors declining to charge (they only take cases they think they can win beyond reasonable doubt), and the criminal standard of proof itself being intentionally very high, for every crime, not just this one. None of these things require the allegation to be false, just for it to be hard to prove to that standard. It's clear that your argument comes from a simple hatred of and bias against women, as you refuse to acknowledge the actual full picture.
>>85201058>That department also used the threat of a polygraph to pressure complainantsHow is this a bad thing? Polygraphs are accurate 75% of the time and this was merely a refusal to take one. This study is very well-designed.
>>85201126You just copy pasted from some RAINN article or LLMslop. Can you at least try?
>>85200901How am I wrong? Society needs men to work. Women can't do what men can do, or else the trades would be easily 50/50. Did you know that there's a significant shortage of plummers and electricians in the United States, to the point where they're considering it a "national security issue?" Why aren't women filling those spots if women can do what men can do?
>>85201126>Sexual assault is unusual among violent crimes in that it often has no witnesses, no physical evidence if reported even a day or two lateRape kits and accountability don't exist
>>85200000HOLY QUINTS OF TRVTH
>>85201099(You) might actually be retarded, so this is the last (You) I'll give you. "Unfounded" and recantation get routinely used to code cases believed to be false without actual proof they were false. Recanting after a confrontational interrogation, or after being threatened with a polygraph like Kanin's department did, isn't the same as admitting to a lie.If anything, you're the one focusing on this study with plenty of issues, while refusing to acknowledge other, more rigorous studies that say different. The 41% figure hasn't been replicated by comparable studies, and when researchers pool multiple independent studies together, the number converges much lower. One example, in a study by Ferguson and Malouff, they pooled seven independent studies (different countries, different police jurisdictions, different research teams) that all used investigation-based verification rather than just accepting police classification at face value. The pooled rate came out to 5.2%, with a 95% confidence interval of 3.0% to 8.9%.The high numbers exist in the literature, but they're outliers that haven't held up. You could get the information if you actually searched for it, but you don't want that, so quit projecting at me.
>>85201165It's not impossible, the same way we could get Hitler 2.0 who kills all the degenerates and you're hanged as well, but there's obviously no interest in dialing women's rights back centuries.
>>85201138The 2003 National Academy of Sciences report concluded the scientific basis for polygraph testing was weak, the underlying research was low quality, and the polygraph industry's own claims of high accuracy were unfounded, with the actual error rate unknown. The "70-90%" figures you'll see cited mostly come from polygraph proponents, not actual studies. >merely a refusal That's not what Kanin's own criteria were. His classification required the complainant to fully recant and admit the report was fabricated, not just decline a test. The polygraph came in as the pressure that produced those recantations, and research on this specific dynamic backs up why that's a problem: studies show that a suspect's willingness to take a polygraph increases how much they're trusted, while refusing one gets treated by people the same as failing it, even though declining a test isn't evidence of anything. "Well designed" doesn't really fit a study that relied entirely on unverified police opinion, no independent corroboration, one department, and a data collection method known to produce recantations regardless of truth.
>>85200302how is white people having children racist?
>>85200302I want the defective spiteful mutant white women out of the gene pool actually, and the niggers and others out of range of admixture.
>>85201266There doesn't have to be "interested." It's the end result of liberalism and the false god of equality. Things are falling apart at rapid pace and will get worse by the decades end. Call me an incel if you want, but at the end of the day, men working, especially sub 8 men working, keeps society up. Without it, society collapses and a power vacuum occurs. And who then will the power be sent to? Pissed off, angry young men. I really hope the century of misandry was worth it. In the mean time, here's an article about exactly what's happening. It's called "The misandry bubble has popped". If you're good faith, you'll give it a glance. You don't have to read it all at once, but I implore you to reconsider your position after reading it.https://archive.ph/Htcmt
>>85201222>One example, in a study by Ferguson and Malouff, they pooled seven independent studies (different countries, different police jurisdictions, different research teams)Have you actually read the study?4 of them were from the USA and the one with the second largest sample size isn't even a study, it's a "personal communication". Only 3 included data that wasn't provided by the police. They said this about the study with the lowest percentage given:>The study (Heenan and Murray) found 17 confirmed false reports of rape out of850, and noted that several more (n=77) were "in question" by investigators.So your own study acknowledges that many of these reports are under question and that the percentage they give are CONFIRMED false reports (for example Lisak 2010, which has the same sampling faults that you disregarded the Kanin study for). Even if this 5% false accusation claim is true, then how does that apply to all of the unreported "rapes" that women have claimed to be victims of? Just because 5% of rapes reported to police are CONFIRMED to be fake (while upwards of 15% are suspected to be fake, with an unknown amount being inconclusive one way or another) does not mean that 95% of every claim of rape or sexual assault ever is true.Just another example of pussy liberal gays like yourself lying by omission and manipulating peer-reviewed research to fit your narrative. However, odds are that you just asked ChatGPT or Grok to find the study for you and you couldn't even bother to proofread it.
>>85201485The necessary American blue collar workers (e.g. not manufacturing) won't stop existing for a long time in the US. There is going to be an economic recession because of tariffs, deportations, AI, the Iran war, etc., but the necessary work isn't going to become infeasible.
Per BJS data the actual rate of rape among college-aged females is about 1 in 200https://bjs.ojp.gov/document/rsavcaf9513.pdf
>>85200510Here's an article explaining how the RAINN data is all but manipulated horseshit
>>85200510>>85202052mfw no link providedhttps://web.archive.org/web/20131031085132/http://reyekomra.wordpress.com/2013/07/24/questioning-rainns-rape-reporting-statistics/
>>85201520Of course that cunt was lying about the stats lmao. If these people did the most basic and preliminary of fact checking then their lies are easily disproveable.
