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>>85203372
Thatd be very dumb. The US has endless nature and many opportunity meanwhile this place is a decaying third world, soon to be islamic shithole.
If I could move to the US id do it in a heartbeat. Been applying to the green card lottery for ages.

>>85206473
What's it like living in France, Americans think very highly of France. I think it's kind of romanticized here we think it's all prairies and lights, good food and funny accents but it's likely a different experience there. I wonder what that experience is. We learned about you guys each year in school so you're one of the important ones. I'm kidding to any other country reading this but that's actually true. We learned about France, the UK, our country, China, some older ones like Rome and ancient Greece, Mesopotamia, Japan but that's about it.

>>85206473
what is wrong with France? Why don't you like it mon frere? Oh mon dieue quand j'etais la a Paris j'ai mange la CROISSANT en le matin et c'etait incroyable

I know my French sucks lol

>>85203196
I dont think i qualify for it.
Also they despise faguettes there so i don't think theyd ever hire me in anything anywhere there especially in such a precarious visa

>>85206488
Like elsewhere in western europe but everything and everyone is poorer, uglier, more expensive, more taxed. Houses are more expensive than in california. There's also a lot more crime and more blacks, gypsies and arabs than anywhere in the west.
Litteraly everyone below 30 dreams of escaping.
>>85206492
>poor
>ugly
>depressing
>no culture
>no nature
>no scenery
>no jobs
>sky high taxes
>get absolutely nothing in return
>almost majority nonwhite
>insane levels of crime
>useless and faggy sounding language
Etc etc

>>85206532
>almost majority nonwhite
>insane levels of crime

Is this in Paris?

>no culture
>no nature
>no scenery

France has culture (from my perspective).
It also has natures, it has forests, right?
Mountains too.

>>85206532
So the GDP per capita average is around $60,000. The average house there is like 300,000. Even saving half of the average GDP per capita, (which would probably mean living below the poverty line) it would take a decade. Damn. I don't know about all the race stuff, extremely poor people are significantly more likely to be mentally ill everywhere but yeah they suck here too.

>>85206551
No thats pretty much everywhere. Chuds love to fantasize about le trad white countryside despite all of them being urbanites, its just as infested with criminal immigrants as the rest of the country AND theres no jobs or young people
>france has culture
Not since the seventies
>it has forests
Not really the "forests " here are tree farms 98% of our forests have been harvested within the last 50 years
>mountains
Same as above they are nature devoudw tourist traps

>>85206561
>mug gdp
Doesnt mean anything, our median salary is about 30k/year gross. Houses are at least 350k. In or near urban areas its usually 400 to 800k. And keep in mind jobs that actually pay that well (30k is a good salary) are very hard to find and extremely competitive. Noone makes 60k outside of cross border commuters (1% of the population) and rich parisian execs

>>85203234
>name countries that are better
There's a lot.
>the US
>australia
>canada
>new zealand
>the uk
>chile
>all of east asia
>most of southeast asia
>uruguay
>costa rica
>panama
>bhutan
>scandinavia
>malaysia
>oman
And so many more

i married a cute french girl and gave her permanent residency in another shithole <3

>>85206628
>the US
worse
>australia
worse
>canada
worse
>new zealand
about the same
>the uk
about the same
>chile
worse
>all of east asia
a lot worse
>most of southeast asia
deplorable
>uruguay
horrible
>costa rica
worse
>panama
appalling
>bhutan
worse
>scandinavia
better
>malaysia
worse
>oman
worse

did you try to list as many countries with level 2 travel advisories as possible?

>>85206651
Youre delusional france is much worse than any of the countries I've listed in every aspect. Its on the same level indonesia/the philippines except with a lot more crime

>>85206571
Hmm I see. I didn't know this insight.
What are Millenniall/Gen Z French women like?

>>85206665
No idea. I dont talk to french women aside from my sisters but i heard they're a lot pickier than american girls. Except if you a re a foreigner

>>85206683
What the fuck, they're less picky when it comes to foreigners?
I'm sorry to say the men in Australia are saying that the women there are extremely vapid, obsessed with reality tv, social media, and materialism. They interview the men on dates and just blatantly straight up ask how much he earns, on the first date, they're asking that shit.

>>85206657
youre the delusional one here
france is fine, it just has an increasing cost of living to wages discrepancy the further south you go, like all med countries

not like that really matters though, theres essentially no real poverty in france
meanwhile all of the countries youve listed save from the european ones, canada, straya and new zealand all know serious poverty

you can't come to america i don't want u molesting my sister

>>85206665
like most zoomers theyre sick of modern society so they cope one way or another
either by doing drugs, other escapism, or by becoming a conservatard

>>85206707
America is actually really hard to immigrate to if you aren't a shitskin, kind of a trend in the entire west

>>85206727
you dont really need to emigrate if you already have eu citizenship, you can just go live anywhere in the eu and after a few years and an language aptitude test youre naturalised

>>85206718
Thank you.
One last question from me.
What do you, and other French people around your age or younger, think of the Chateau that are around the countryside?

For me, I was amazed and found them to be beautiful. I felt like France had magic to it. Maybe it was real or maybe it was only my imagination.

I didn't grow up in a country with such history which is why I am wondering what you think of those buildings. Thank you and best wishes.

>>85206743
im not french my girlfriend is
and that makes me rather indifferent, theyre nice enough but can be a bit gaudy since its not like most of them are genuine historic castles
country villas are generally more charming, i quite like early 20th century art nouveau and art deco architecture

>>85206737
I do because America is better than the EU, also finding a job in other eu countries is impossible if you dont speak that country's language fluently

>>85206696
>interview the men on dates and just blatantly straight up ask how much he earns, on the first date, they're asking that shit.
Same here tbf

>>85206769
o shit I got you mixed up with the OP haha.
But thanks nonetheless, appreciate your persepective.

>>85206782
Same in France? Well... that is shit...

>>85206697
Kek no you are completely out of touch with reality. This shithole has a lot of absolutely abject poverty with slums and all. Its the worst european and western country to live in by far
>the further south you go
Ok you have no idea what you are talking about, most of the north and east are absolute miserable destitute shithole filled with crime and unemployment
>all know serious poverty
All of the countries i listed have a lot less poverty, better economic conditions and less crime than france

>>85206743
>Chateau that are around the countryside?
Noone really gives a shit. Young frogoids either larp as epic jbc edgelords, weaboos or arab/negro thugs.
Also castles are for rich people simply because they are so expensive to restore and maintain

>>85206787
Yeah, worst thing is, girls watch american tiktoks so they will spout the exact same shit about wanting a guy who makes 5000 to 10 000 euros netto despite most people making 1500 euros/month

>>85206802
>>85206807


I see, thank you again for your insights.

Some same issues in Australia. I know guys who are handsome, tall, and have jobs... They ought to be doing very well in the dating scene but they are single and have been for years. They have jobs but they aren't wealthy and I think most Australian women are now filtering for the truly rich guys and they're trying to get married to them because the housing situation in Australia is insane - the cost to buy a house is basically impossible now for most people and I think women are secretly disregarding most men and simply attempting to get rich guys.

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>>85206778
america is horrible if youre not a top 10% earner, they have successfully completely gutted their working class
every european country worth migrating to speaks english

>>85206820
Same thing here except dating here is extreeemely easy if youre an aussie because of the whole surfer thing and girls looking for travel bfs. Also i checked and i could agtually afford a place in southern regional VIC with my current income, wouldnt be able to do so in my own birthplace because every home is 800k euros+

>>85206829
Its still miles better than europe in terms of income, housing, job market etc.
>every european country worth migrating to speaks english
Doesnt matter. Lets say i wanna look for a job in austria, every single job will ask for fluent german. Same in say sweden or finland.
I speak some dutch and cant even move here because you basically need fluent/native level dutch for every single job

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>>85206797
its not a literal north/south divide like italy, rather north-east/south-west, but its close enough if you ask me
yes the provence isnt poor, but thats really just an exception

>>85206839
ahhh yeah I have encountered the travel BF thing and the surfer thing too. I'm not a surfer. Yeah women basically want to collect boyfriends. The Aussie Surfer. The Italian Fashion guy. The French Author. The American Football guy. Blah blah blah. They use the men to make themselves the 'main character' in their social media.

About living in Australia, I know one thing.
There are some French people in Australia who have set up restaurants and things. I don't know much more than that but I just know that this is something that some have done. In Australia sometimes French food (French cuisine) is associated with luxury and being wealthy and things like that.

>>85206866
Its a demographics thing. The yellow is basically the less populared areas. The north is smaller and so the city cluster is therefore denser. Also for alsace, everyone just works in germany

OP is a jeet trolling. Everything he says is a lie. Don't give him izzat.

>>85206869
I have an aquaintance who live in one of those remote aussie islands so i was thinking about going to those kind of places or maybe the northern part with a savannah climate. Rn i am basically just saving to move out.
The travel bf thing is very real here. Most of the girls i worked with used that technique to go around the world without paying for shit. Its so easy ive even had a sibling get contacted by some rich 20 something guy (her now fiance) on instagram and offering to fly her to canada to meet her. Guy gifted her a house near montreal for her birthday

>>85206933
I can litteraly post my id though and am more french than you ranjeesh. Besides if i was a jeet i would be able to move anywhere i wanted since countries use them as slave labour

>>85206940
I've not been to any of the islands around Australia but I've looked at a few online a while ago and they seem pretty cool. I've heard they're calm however it can take some time to become 'one of the locals' (which is normal, imo).

A big thing to stay away from in Australia are towns that have bad methamphetamine issues (in Australia they just call the drug 'meth'). This is in many towns unfortunately and it is associated with crime, violence, and lots of police and shit like that.

>The travel bf thing is very real here. Most of the girls i worked with used that technique to go around the world without paying for shit. Its so easy ive even had a sibling get contacted by some rich 20 something guy (her now fiance) on instagram and offering to fly her to canada to meet her. Guy gifted her a house near montreal for her birthday

bleak

>>85206962
Yeah its thats easy for them just dont behave in an insane way, have some decent hobbies dont really post weird pictures online and tons of attractive and wealthy guys will just message them out of the blue

>>85206933
He has been posting these threads for years. An actual european would have found the solution already.
I just assume these threads are filled with newfags

>>85207173
Not my fault in countries outside of the EU only let your jeet brothers and not europeans in.

>>85206847
have you consumed a bit too much american propaganda? the majority of the united states is a complete shithole
the only decent places are then major metropolitan areas, that also require at least a 6 digit income to be able to have some standard of living

>>85207256
No, ive actually been there and worked (illegally) there for a little bit. It mogs anywhere in the EU. People are nicer, there are jobs everywhere, houses are cheaper and they have actual nature. Maybe you should log off the europoor propaganda

>>85206473
You could literally move to anywhere in the EU you'd like you can stay in 1 country for 3 months then you have to ask for permanent residence but that's not super hard to obtain. Alternatively you could stay 3 months move to another country for 3 months then come back and keep alternating without having to change your permanent residence. I'm on neetbucks and plan on moving to Greece living off like 1200 euro which is apparently like slightly higher than the average median income there you could literally get a little furnished house for like 400 a month or so. I also considered Romania and Bulgaria for how cheap they are but IDK thoses countries seem kind of depressing.
>>85206571
French cinema is still world class imo. My most recent watch was J'accuse (2019) by Roman Polanski. The food is also significantly better than anything for neighboring countries.

>>85206628
>the Uk
Native limey here, if only you knew how utterly wrong you are...

>>85207261
houses are far more expensive unless you are willing to live in the boonies with the nearest supermarket 20 km away
here a shitty rowhouse in an urban centre is maybe 300k EUR, in san francisco youre looking at quadruple that minimum

>>85207219
Not your fault you are brown and circumcised.

>>85206473
pick a direction and start walking, you'll end up somewhere.

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>>85203234
DPRK (origano)

>>85206488
Like many countries, France is nice when you have money. But when you need money...
- very hard to get shit jobs because mass immigration
- hard to get good jobs because we're a US colony, and each time we do something good, colonizer takes it. Alstom is the most famous example. And McKinsey is running the country.

Both Germany and the UK are US lapdogs, so they strive. But there is still an unsaid hate between USA and France. You probably inherit it from English ancestors.
For example, when France and Germany opposed the Irak war, US gov famously said "punish France, forgive Germany". On 4chan, the France hating memes were notorious, but what has really hurt is 15 years of bad economy.n Job cuts.

>>85207315
>I'm on neetbucks and plan on moving to Greece
neetbucks and live abroad ?
that's not the idea.
you have to prove that you don't live abroad.
With france charity money, you can't live abroad more than 3 years, and must prove you're looking for work.

>>85207732
> more than 3 years
more than 3 *months per year

>>85207315
The issue is that i am not neetbux bor am i eligible for those. Otherwise i would have prob done something like that too
>>85207471
>san Francisco
Compare it with paris then
Otherwise if you take a random us city like des moine or something then anyone can pretty much afford a home which isnt the case here
>>85207550
Whiter than you browncel.

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>>85206473
If you can handle heat and get the green card or fuck some white chick down there and convince her to marry you, Louisiana may be the place for you. Fuck france and if you're desperate to get out Marrying your way to the US is the way to do it. Louisiana just is a personal 2nd favorite state of mine and has french history. pretty sure there is a few communities that still speak the accent. Its like Quebec, but not fucking Canadian and not Quebecois

>>85206473
you are literally in the schengen

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>>85207732
One of the requirements to keep getting my specific type of benefits is that I have to have a permanent address in my country so I'll keep paying rent which is super low since it's social housing. Then I'll cancel my electricity/gas bill which hopefully won't alert the social housing people that I'm not actually living there and I'll have about 1200 euro left over give or take. There's even a popular scam in my country where people will rent like a PO box or garage or something for 50 euros not sure how it works and have it registered on paper as their address. My neighbors are literally unemployable friendless retards that sit inside all day rotting in their apartments. The thought of me living in a nice little maisonette somewhere on the coast and spending half on groceries/cigarettes makes me so excited + I'll literally still have the income of a lower middle class person which is pretty cool since I don't have to actually work. I do hope my scheme doesn't get found out but I can always claim I just went on a long vacation I suppose. Going on vacations isn't illegal.
>3 month rule
same thing applies where I live but if you don't get found you don't get found out I guess. I'm Belgian btw I'd assume the social welfare system and rules are pretty similar to France.
>>85207764
I've met loads of people that are 100% normal but still get on disability somehow. Even having autism (doesn't have to be severe) can get you NEET bucks. All you have to do really is go to a psychiatrist get some diagnosis that will allow you to be considered mildly disabled and then you apply for disability and act like a slow/mentally ill person during the examination. If I had to I would probably be an online Dutch teacher or find some type of remote work like sales or a call center type thing. Even if the pay isn't great if you move to any of the poorer EU countries you'll literally be a high earner with a quality of life that would cost you at least double in Western Europe.

>>85207773
Was my plan but its kinda hard when youre a broke yuropoor. Ive never been to the lower 48, only AK. But most of the people i met up there either moved to WA or to the ozarks so it probably head there

>>85206473
second most powerful passport in the world
>>85206532
>poor
more or less the european average
>ugly
france is the most beautiful country in the world or at least in the top five. I know french people hate france but they really need to stop making things up
>depressing
Yes
>no culture
that s the case for the entire West but yes
>no nature
false
>no scenery
false
>no jobs
yes
>sky high taxes
fuck yeah
>get absolutely nothing in return
pretty much yes
>almost majority nonwhite
If you count narbonoids as white then the country is still largely white
>insane levels of crime
still half that of the US
>useless and faggy sounding language
still less faggy than english

>>85207764
des moine? who wants to live in that flyover shithole?
houses in bumfuque, bouniz, france are dirt cheap too, i could buy a castle with my savings

houses in my neighbourhood here in holland in a medium city go for around 400k, and theyre the absolute most crappy cheaply built speculative housing imaginable
why? because theres actually something to do here, unlike "des moines" where the most exciting activity is the strip mall olive garden

>>85208286
Des moines is a big city with well above 200k ppl which has plenty of jobs but i could have picked any city of the same size. Meanwhile nowhere outside of paris and maybe Lyon has any actual jobs and over there forget about owning anything ever.
>houses in bumfuque, bouniz, france are dirt cheap too
They arent

>>85208248
>second most powerful passport in the world
Doesnt translate into getting visas /PR anywhere. It just means you can spend 2 weeks in a country as a tourist
>false
Then youve never been abroad and seen actual scenery/nature
>france is the most beautiful country in the world or at least in the top five
Kek no, the absolute delusion of government bots, its easily the ugliest and most overrated country in western europe. Its litteraly ugly af theres kothing nice to see or do.

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>>85208286
Lololol medium sized city Netherlands is literally hell on earth. Food is shitty, culture is shitty and Dutch people are weird as fuck. Wheres the upsides anon? Picrel is Michelin star restaurant food and it's literally a piece of sausage shaped separator meat with some garnishes oooh so fancy omg! roflmao

>>85208346
You can literally live ANYWHERE in the EU for 90 days and permanent residence is super easy if you're already a EU citizen countries are basically like states in the USA lol imagine not knowing this.

>>85208383
>You can literally live ANYWHERE in the EU for 90 days and permanent residence is super easy
Noone cares about poorope. The french passport is basically useless toilet paper abroad. Since no countey will ever give you PR outside of the EU which is a massive shithole.
Also if you want to work in other EU countries you need to speak their national languages fluently otherwise you will never ever get a job

>>85208346

"Then youve never been abroad and seen actual scenery/nature"

>Spain is a desert
>Greece looks like the ugliest parts of the south of France
>Germany looks like the north of France without the south

You re definitely French or worse Belgian, don t pretend you re from Norway or some corner of the US with two inhabitants per square kilometer and that you see Northern Lights when you get up in the morning

>Kek no, the absolute delusion of government bots, its easily the ugliest and most overrated country in western europe. Its litteraly ugly af theres kothing nice to see or do.

Yes it is, in terms of architecture countries like China or whiter countries like Germany or Austria might have a better built heritage but apart from them all the countries in the south and the Anglosphere are uglier

>>85207764
>didnt deny being a circumcoid in France
Case closed

>>85208447
>Spain is a desert
>Greece looks like the ugliest parts of the south of France
I dont like europe that much but thats so insanely wrong, all of spain has nature and very empty areas same with greece
>all the countries in the south and the Anglosphere are uglier
They aren't

>>85208485
Frenchier than you abdoul/ranjeesh

>>85208405
Bruh look up digital nomads in poorer EU countries like like Latvia, Lithuania,Greece etc... there's plenty to choose from. You can literally make minimum wage in fucking Austria or some shit and live like a king. Shit you could even just permanently travel and do long term hotel stays in the off season. The world is my oyster anon all you need is some good old joie de vivre and a positive mindset which I suppose are 2 things miserable anglo saxons tend to lack faggot!
>>85208447
What's wrong with being Belgian Nigel? Anyways, I would get off of 4chan before the government finds out and like imprisons you for posting on internet forums kek and lmao
>>85208485
Literally no one in France is circumcised.

>>85208691
>digital nomads in poorer EU countries
Theres barely any. My company has an office in vilnius but you need fluent lithuanian to go there.
Remote jobs dont exist in mainland europe. All jobs require you ti go to the office 4 days a week
>can literally make minimum wage in fucking Austria or some shit and live like a king
No? You need fluent german for that
>just permanently travel and do long term hotel stays in the off season.
Again, any serious hotel requires you to speak several languages and have a tourism degree of sorts