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>u can't kill urself because... because u just can't okay?!
Also
>why don't u want to join the army and die in the meatgrinder???
Why are my relatives like this? Do they actually hate me?
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it's called being socialized
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>>85257489
>buzzword buzzword buzzword
Please elaborate
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If you were suicidal you wouldn't play around with the idea and just do it. But yes joining the army is retarded especially today when all wars are jewish
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>>85257517
I will do it soon. The hypocricy just frustrates me
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>>85257532
Just leave your shitty family if they bring you down dumbass. Again you still being alive means something
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>>85257541
Not really an option. I'm not smart enough for a worthwhile career. One of the reasons why i'm gonna kms
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>>85257507
are you retarded? wtf. you reply to completely coherent single-digit-word answers with complaining about buzzwords and expect honest engagement? go kys or die for israel or whatever
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>>85257550
"Being socialized" means nothing
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>>85257549
Yeah ur sub 80iq if you think like this.
>muh career
I have friends that have worked at the same dead end place they started working in their teens. They are fine and don't struggle financially. I think you're just scared to get a job in general kek defo not worth suiciding over but whatever man
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>>85257481
>kill self
Society and your family will lose their initial investment in preparing you for wagecuckery
>die in combat
Society redeems their investment because they need combatants competent enough to do basic maths and read orders plus your family gets componsated with shekels

Really it's just simple economics.
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>>85257673
>I have friends that have worked at the same dead end place they started working in their teens.
Sounds like a miserable existence. Work 12 hours in some shithole of a factory only to come home to eat and sleep. And i'm supposed to be satisfied with this "life"? I may be stupid, but i do possess insight.
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>>85257693
So they're just a bunch of dishonest pricks then?
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>>85257706
Yeah maybe working at the dildo factory would be miserable. Where do you get the 12 hours from?
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>>85257778
>Where do you get the 12 hours from?
pretty sure that's how long the shifts are in most factories unless you live in some socialist utopia like Norway. Anyway, i got no future so suicide is the best option
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>>85257714
>Anon discovers incentives

Oh sweetsummer child so many trvthnukes still await you
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>>85257819
free him now
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>>85257824
He is not ready yet to see the cold and bitter hard truth, doing so prematurely risks frying his littlenigger mind.
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>>85257819
i've had quite enough trvthnvkes in my life
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>>85257481
You can join the army and kill yourself.
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>>85257549
isnt it more worthwhile then to lower expectations and try to be happy with less? this reminds me somewhat of guys who kill themselves because theyre balding
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>>85257898
>just be le happy being a peasant
not even a peasant. Even peasants had things worth living for
i have nothing
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>>85257902
do you think someone could be content in prison? or someone homeless?
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>>85257949
doesn't matter if such a person exists, because I'm not them. But i think you'd need to be a special kind of a masochist to enjoy either of those things
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>>85257902
Listen here maggot. It is your civic and patriotic duty to fight and bleed for this country just like your male predecessors from previous generations. You aren't entitled to shit but the GI boots this blessed country will provide you to pull yourself up by the bootstraps and make a man of yourself, you should be thankful that our generous benefactors are willing to provide you with such a great opportunity to man up defending democracy and our intreasts instead of just drafting your worthless bitchboy ass straight into the meat grinder, Oorah Semper Fi!
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>>85257481
its more that they feel helpless to make you feel better

naturally their first instinct is to give up and express their frustrations with their inability

anyway don't expect a normie to have the toolset to help here

seek a mental health doctor please

psychiatrist and or psychologist
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>>85257976
>what you feel suicidal and have nothing to live for?
>why don't you go die a horrible death in a trench!
>better yet, get crippled and live the rest of your life as a vegetable!
yes this is definitely supposed to make me feel better
>seek a mental health doctor please
because describing how my shithole of a life makes me feel or practicing "mindfulness" for the Nth time will definitelly make me feel better and give me a purpose in life.
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>>85257986
>because describing how my shithole of a life >makes me feel or practicing "mindfulness" for the Nth time will definitelly make me feel better and give me a purpose in life.

just remember resisting treatment is within your control

if you know you have to improve your life yourself than you should have realized by now

as ugly as this sounds no one will rescue you anon. You need to accept help and follow the treatment plans.

You don't rely on advice alone they have anti depresssants and what ever else you'll need

i'll leave you with one bit of advice

but when ever you are having a suicidal episode the thoughts that fly through your head are all the shit that scares you too much live your life

you need to face and overcome them if you want relief

yes that means mindfulness yes that means thought analysis yes that means YOU need to take actions
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>>85258009
i am done with mental health "services". I've spent 1000s on therapy and meds in the last 3 years or so. Absolutely useless scam pseudoscience. At least the "treatment" part is
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>>85258025
that is a fear that is implanted in you

just fyi

giving in to hopelessness is going to harm you more than you realize

if you want to reject treatment thats fine but don't lose hope that you can fix your life

as hard as it is to believe you have more control over the direction of your life than you care to realize
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>>85257966
my point is just that it's possible to alter how you view things instead of just trying to make things conform to how you already view them. in a way hardship can be a blessing in disguise because it forces this
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>>85258042
>just brainwash yourself into being a masochist who's content with being a slave
just answer me this. What exactly do I have to live for?
>>85258038
what is your definition of "fixing my life"?
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>>85258069
>what is your definition of "fixing my life"?

in general it means overcoming your fears

if you want specifics that is question you need to answer
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>>85257532
Be sure to use a method that is non-retarded and actually works, like a 12 gauge.
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>>85258078
>in general it means overcoming your fears
i don't really have fears anymore
i'm just done
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>>85258087
I guess ill form a point a view you can't see

but people done commit suicide cause they are fearless

they commit suicide cause they are afraid of living their life
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>>85258085
>like a 12 gauge.
unfortunately i am not American
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>>85257481
there is nothing wrong with dying for a good cause but all modern wars are primarily for culling incels
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>>85258093
i'm as much afraid of living my life as making a terrible business decision. It just not going to be a good time for me and i see no reason why i should be around to experience it.
>>85258099
you could say the same thing about pretty much every war, modern or otherwise
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>>85258069
you are conflating finding value despite a condition with enjoying the condition itself. and that may be why you're in this position to begin with
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>>85258114
okay let me change the question
what do I get out of living my life? How does it benefit me?
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you seem to be treating your reactions to circumstances as if they were contained in the circumstances themselves
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>>85258111
>i'm as much afraid of living my life as making a terrible business decision. It just not going to be a good time for me and i see no reason why i should be around to experience it.

those are your fears speaking

you are in a state of something called "learned helplessness"

your fears have become so powerful you can't even imagine a life where you beat them

just remember it is within your power to beat them. Killing yourself was and will always be the wrong answer.
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You are with hylic npcs

They just want to keep the evil matrix going
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>>85258122
i'm asking you if you think the person who currently cant see how life could benefit him might ever change. even just acknowledging the possibility may give some space
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>>85258145
i am not going to suddenly become masochistic
>>85258134
i've given it a lot of thought and i simply cannot see any rational way of me living a decent life
it's logic, not learned helpessness
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>>85258292
just remember

your life is in your hands

if you are not willing to fight for it

no one else will

you want to win

you know what to do
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>>85258292
it reads as masochism to you because you believe suffering is located entirely in external conditions. at which point being happy necessarily would mean you now enjoy suffering
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>>85258372
Idk where you're going with this
Shitty life is all i'm gonna get. Only a masochist would enjoy a shitty life
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>>85258527
my point is just that a lot of suffering can come from your relationship to conditions and not the conditions themselves. in any case i would advise not killing yourself until your 30s if you're younger as people generally mellow out with age and you may evaluate differently later. this was true for me too, without me doing anything. i also didn't see a viable/acceptable future at some point
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>>85258042
yeah dude that's called 'coping'. fucking moron.
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>>85258804
you could call being less governed by and more free of the material world the same thing as denial or doing heroin i guess



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