Do men, regardless if they are conventionally unattractive or attractive, exist who>Aren't disrespectful>Break up with you if you don't want to have sex with them, instead of cheating>Don't cheat>Are honest>Try to be kind >Can be in love with a woman forever>Can fall in love
Do women exist that would sing to me.
>>85262358that's just the minimum requirements, isn't it? I'd be like that by default
>>85262358>if you don't want to have sex with themFor the time getting to know each other or indefinitely? If the latter, what's the point of a relationship that drains my bank account? I'd rather be alone having fun with hobbies.
>>85262358I haven't been in enough relationships to know how I'd act after a while. It's really unknowable until you're in that position, and I've learned girls make me act like a fucking idiot and completely out of character.
>>85262358Yeah, but I am unconfident, so you have to take that as well.
There are a few things we have to establish as baseline before we can answer this question appropriately.>break up if you don't want to have sex with themIs this zero sex, or just a lull? Don't you think it's kind of weird that you have both "can fall in love with a woman forever" and also "break up with you if you don't want sex with them"?What are you expecting with these two contradictions? If they love you why would they break up with you? Conversely, if YOU love them, why aren't you having sex with them? Sure, I'm not saying every day, or even every week, but a lack of sex on your part is a lack of love on your part.The reason that cheating is bad is that it betrays the assumed commitment. So does zero sex. What's the difference between a sexless relationship and a pair of good friends? I can tell you're the same anon who's making these threads, and I know better than to respond you anymore than what I already have. But this needs to be said regardless: Love is a feeling that you can hold for a person indefinitely, insofar as general love for another human being. Romantic love needs to be treated like a plant however. You need to feed it, maintain it, and nurture it. That implies responsibilities from you, the woman. And yes, to an extent, sex is one of them.Imagine if a guy was like "so my woman was feeling neglected or something, and was like 'please hold me', and I'm like BITCH I have a right to my own body, I don't owe you intimacy like that. Then she started crying and I just couldn't deal with the attempt at emotional manipulation so I came to the bar with my bros. Women are such scum sometimes."
I feel like I'm just always too tired to have a gf, I can barely muster up the energy for normal low-stakes small talk with local cashiers, let alone sustaining that level of conversational energy all day every day for years on call for a chatty food who sends me unfunny memes that I'm supposed to react to uncritically
>>85262842*foid autocorrect isn't familiar with these cutting edge pop culture terms
>>85262358>>Aren't disrespectfulI never try to be but this is subjective>>Break up with you if you don't want to have sex with them, instead of cheatingsex is a 100% necessary part of a healthy relationship. there are very few men who will willing enter a sexless relationship and rightfully so.>>Don't cheatnever would imagine>>Are honestsure>>Try to be kind sure>>Can be in love with a woman foreverI'd like to think so>>Can fall in lovesame as above
>>85262358Yep unfortunately you're too late the woman who I love took my heart when I was still in high school. If you understand love you'll understand why there can only be one.
whats so bad about cheating?
>>85262358We exist but women don't want us. We also tend to be pretty unmasculine, not just /physically/ unattractive but unattractive in terms of personality too, when it comes to the things women find desirable about personality. Women would generally rather settle for unkind men who have desirable personalities, rather than settle for nice, kind, caring, loyal men whose personalities are also just weird, boring, unappealing, and not very "manly". Women can be especially judgmental towards men who simply don't adhere to traditional gender roles, with this generating a strong sense of visceral disgust that can result in women making all sorts of justifications to argue that such men are actually secretly some sort of performative sinister evil predator rather than just a nice guy whose personality she doesn't vibe with
>aren't disrespectfulThis is the entire reason you fall in love with us in the first place idiot, disrespecting institutions and agents of authority
>Break up with you if you don't want to have sex with them, instead of cheatingWhy are you even dating if you aren't down for sex
>>85262358I believe that's me, but I'm also not good looking or successful.
>>85262358>Are there any men that won't cheat on me if I tell them they give me the ick and I won't have sex with themlol foids cant be real
>>85262925>not just /physically/ unattractiveThat just sounds like you think physically attractive men shouldn't be kind
>>85262358>>Don't cheat>>Can be in love with a woman foreverAll depends on whether another prettier younger woman makes a move on him or not
>>85262829Holy fucking truthnuke! Based!
>>85262358>arent disrespectfulthis already tells me you make poor choices in men and likely have low self esteem.>dont cheatYou women really know how to pick them huh?>are honestsee above>try to be kindthis is just a trainwreck at this point and no use answering the rest.You need to look at your choices in men if you think that way.
>>85263628Not what the thread is about >>85263599 #Why>>85262969 #I noticed that culturally cheating is used as a manipulation tactic which I am not accepting. I could be too depressed sometimes or have a UTI or whatever. You should leave me if it is too much instead of manipulating me and or cheating>>85262893 #I don't want it and I wouldnt do it neither>>85262369 #Guess there aren't>>85262721 #That doesn't sound stable>>85262782 #Wdym>>85262850 #See above, I might be sick or mental health or UTI some time. I just would rather you leave than pressure me
>Can be in love with a woman foreverThis is possible but people can and will leave your life, that's just a fact of life. You have to be willing to risk that.
>>85263700Well then how do you know it exists then
>>85263679>Whywhy do think men automatically assume your man is a chad when he cheats on you? Having options equals cheating for most men. If you'd like to prevent that you should bodycam him and limit his internet access
>>85263757Are you a man or a woman, so you think they don't exist
>>85262358>Break up with you if you don't want to have sex with themwhy are you even with someone you dont want to have sex with
>>85262829>Love is a feeling that you can hold for a person indefinitelywrong. love, in the context of an active relationship with a real person, is an action.otherwise you're just trying to hold up a relationship with mental abstractions from your mind, which is insane.
>>85263762I answered already that sometimes I might can't for multiple of reasons like a UTI so I don't like manipulation.
>>85263753The only thing I could change is trying to get more money but then they would only want me for the money and divorce me.
>>85262358Yes, they exist because it's literally me. You just described exactly how I act in a relationship. But let's not lie to ourselves, you're a woman, this might work for the first few weeks of the relationship but eventually you'd get bored and ask for more until you're basically asking for someone who cannot even reasonably exist. The>Break up if you don't want to have sexbit is how I know it only gets worse from there.
>>85263802women unfortunately have no respect for men who get plastic surgery
>>85263807>you're a woman, this might work for the first few weeks of the relationship but eventually you'd get bored and ask for more until you're basically asking for someone who cannot even reasonably exist. The>>Break up if you don't want to have sex>bit is how I know it only gets worse from there.You sound negative and accusatory. I am referring to when I am too depressed or have a uti so I really wouldn't want to have sex
>>85263813Not true yes if you got it you would be more popular since people value appearance and personality more than petty stuff like that
>>85263702Because there are plenty of people fall in lobe and stay with one partner for literally the rest of their life. But I'm trying to say that not everyone is going to be like that and them leaving is a real possibility. I get you're having a rough time or whatever but don't be a snarky asshole.
>>85263823I wasn't trying to be snarky I was being genuine. Would you be able if you are a man, since you are the only man I can ask in this convo. Since I can't ask them and who knows if they do love eachother
>>85262358Yes. They're called nice guys aka ick! Aka incel
>>85263814>when I am too depressedIf you had depression, I would make it our priority to get it fixed asap, especially if it makes you not want to have sex. Also, what is the point of a relationship if it doesn't become a source of happiness?>have a utiThat would be fair I guess, I'm okay with masturbating
>>85263843You don't understand. Language like this implies that I am lying and using It as an excuse, cause I don't want to have sex with the man. Which not only is pressuring, but also accuses me of lying about being attracted to the man which I wouldn't.
>>85263679so your entire reason is because YOU dont want it? how selfish can you bethats not how relationships work, its give and take
>>85263829I know it might sound like a copout answer but "it depends." Stuff happens, situations and perspectives change, maybe I realize something about my partner or myself that sours the whole relationship, I'm not sure if that makes me a bad person or not. But if I did fall in love with someone, I would want to be in love them forever.
>>85263850Please leave me and find a woman who is ok with such language cause i am not
>>85263849I wasn't trying to imply you're lying. Maybe it comes off like that because I'm being brutally honest, but it's true I'd want to just get rid of the depression. You're weirdly worried about being pressured when it's not really about that.
>>85263853Where does your loyalty end
>>85262829Incredibly based. Women who expext a relationship without fulfilling their sexual duties are evil
>>85263863I get that. Yes I don't mind working through sex issues, I just mind those attitudes I was talking about. That is what I was referring to about the post
>>85262358I fit all of those criteria.Regarding this, though:>Break up with you if you don't want to have sex with them, instead of cheatingWhat do you mean exactly? You never want to have sex? Or are you afraid your partner will cheat on you if you turn down sex occasionally?
>>85263881Yeah the occasional part. That part of the post was me just talking about this Cultural attitude. Not saying it because I don't think I would want to have sex often
Nevermind you answered. I read the thread late because I'm adhd.I meet all your criteria, femanon. Now marry me.
>>85262829good effort. telling that she won't respond.
>>85263871I know the way I said>especially if it makes you not want to have sex.makes it sound like is about you as a person making deliberate choices, but you being depressed is also you, and that version of you doesn't want to have sex and that's ok. We're not like robots that obey commands. It's a human thing. The way I'm expressing myself is also human, I'm not trying to antagonize you.
>>85263865>Where does your loyalty endFunny enough, Cheating. I couldn't trust someone ever again after that. Knowing that I trust them and feel safe is important too. Also I need to know someone values and cares about me just as much as I do for them. I don't want to give it 100 and the other is only giving 50.
literally me marry meeeee
>>85263774>wrong. love, in the context of an active relationship with a real person, is an action.Is that true though? Like if I buy you a box of chocolates and flowers and hold your hand does that automatically equate to love on my part? I could do all of those things for someone and feel nothing.
>>85263854you are fundamentally incompatible with relationships stop trying, you will never find "the one"
>>85262358>>>Aren't disrespectfulyoure gonna have to define that, but Id leave a partner before wanting to hurt them, emotionally or otherwise>>Break up with you if you don't want to have sex with them, instead of cheatingwell duh>>Don't cheatunless youre counting porn, why would I cheat>>Are honestI guess?>>Try to be kindwell duh>>Can be in love with a woman foreverI'd die, eventually>>Can fall in loveyoure gonna have to find a guy under 25-28 for that
>>85264154Not OP but why would you watch porn when you have a gf?
>>85263891You obviously wrote it and attention seeking by replying to it multiple times
>>85264096How about you look at your own life and find your woman and then you can tell me what I can or can't accomplish
>>85262358>>Break up with you if you don't want to have sex with them, instead of cheating>>Don't cheatNot cheating would be easy for me, because I don't really want relationships for sex that much, more like for somebody to be with me and maybe have children, family.But I would probably have crank out one or two faps ever so often, my libido is not like it was in early 20's but still. >honestI can be brutally honest, people tend not to like that.>disrespectfulI might say something people take the wrong way, even though I'm generally mean well.>love>love foreverwho knows, can't know without trying
>>85264232whatever you say schizo nigger
>>85264241you can go fuck yourself with your tu quoquei have a girlfriend and shes amazing, im not going around begging strangers on the internet for dates and dating advicei can see right through you, you are stupid, ignorant and self absorbedmaybe grow some self awareness so you can start to see just how vain you are
>>85262829Dude, it's a hypothetical question. Presumably she would give her man sex. And in case she didn't, she would prefer if he neither broke up nor cheated. She's asking hypothetically, if only given these two options in a sexless relationship, would he rather break up or cheat. You wrote up this entire wall of text just beacuse you don't understand hypotheticals.
>>85263575Standard envy/spite based ideologyCommies think rich people are supposed to be evilIncels thinks Chads are supposed to be assholes
Pro-tip: it doesn't matter how many flaming hoops you jump through as a man because the woman will ALWAYS want more and something else.
>>85264224because theyre not currently in the room
>>85264729I don't think it is hypothetical, she's been making lots of threads about this
>>85264436Well have fun with her you sound nice to be around
>>85264289Whatever i say. Which is also true
>>85264232imagine being this jealous over an online comment
>>85264993i am a motherfucking genius, of course im great to be around
>>85262358I mean, I never have had a partner, but that's the bare minimum I would expect from myself in a relationship.But again, there are clearly very wrong things with me, so my flaws wouldn't make up for any of that.
>>85265128Imagine being this correct (me)
Lol you mean the good men who are taken already? Yeah, sure, but get in line bitch. I'm no harem where.
>>85262358Well, yeah. That's me. People have always told me I'm really good natured, and I guess that's true. I just like to be useful and I try to keep people on the up and up. But I'm so ugly it really doesn't matter. Ugly and just so hilariously fat.I fell in love with a girl over a decade ago. It wasn't mutual, but I've never been able to stop feeling something for her. I don't think a single day has gone by that she hasn't crossed my mind.I catch feelings so rarely. But when I do, it goes somewhere deep, somewhere I can't reach to untangle it deep inside my core.
Do women exist who>Arent disrespectful>Talk to one man at a time>Dont cheat>Are honest>Try to be kind>Can be in love with a man forever>Can fall in loveIf we did maybe people would be having kids and families and we wouldnt have the divorce rates we do in this country
can a femanon please explain what the sensation of needing to cheat feels like? i have some experience with alcohol and nicotine withdrawal, is it something like that? an uncontrollable fury similar to that of a werewolf in a full moon? please help me understand the agony and suffering of your female experience and how hard it is to not hop on the cock carousel
>>85262358hi, i exist :>and since i'm thoroughly unremarkable, that means others like me exist tooyou'll find yours, anoni believe in you
>>85264289>racismsPlease take your bigot ass to:>>>/pol/
>>85262358If you don't want to have regular sex with your man you don't love him
>>85262358yes, we exist. this was my thread last night.>>85262636
>>85266741women are the last people with an insatiable need to cheat. you have been propagandized, men are the cheating gender kek. if one day you are reborn into the body of a girl, and you experience real gritty female conversations you'd realize every woman just wants a man like a father, and even the most evil women are doing it out of revenge from male betrayal.
>>85268299>women are the last people with an insatiable need to cheatyes and I'm a leprechaun
>>85268330I really don't know what you want because every woman you will ever meet will admit they want a man bigger than them to play daddy. No cheating there.
>>85262358Yes but why would this kind of guy be on /r9k/
>>85268427Then why do you say yes
>>85262358Sure, only if she's a kissless virgin who's also has those qualities.
im low-key that guy (no one can be completely honest) and i have 0 luck with women, but to be fair i don't go out often at all, most of my interactions are with 4chan girls who rend to be really bad girls
>>85262358You can reasonably have 5 out of 7 of those.
>>85262358I'm concerned I think something happened I guess
>>85262358>>85263679>>85263814yeah i exist tooliterally my ideal is going thrifting and dressing each other in cute outfits or reading to each other while cuddling but i'd like to hear what ur into
I didn't cheat.
>>85262358bumping this but i hope you are still around after a day
>>85270742>>85269276Why do you ask i am confused
>>85268366until a man bigger than the one they have comes along
>>85262358>Aren't disrespectfulMy ex might argue with you on this point because she and I have different ideas of respect.My idea is you do not abuse, namecall, or deliberately set out to harm your partner or that kind of childish shit.Her idea is if your tone ever changes to anything other than perfectly calm, that's disrespectful.Other than that I'd like to think these all apply to me.I don't cheat. I have had opportunities and refused.If you don't want to have sex with your partner, then that's probably a good reason for you to break up with them anyway. In my experience sexual compatibility is directly linked to how satisfying the relationship is for both of you. Gotta get that oxytocin. Like sure sometimes things get stale and you need to introduce a new kink but if you ever reach the point you're just not interested the relationship is basically already over, unless it's a temporary problem from drugs affecting their sexdrive or something. Break up and move on, don't sneak around behind their back trying to hurt them, that's scum behaviour.
>>85271360I can tell you're going through a lot
>>85273486Yes but do you know me
>>85273676No I recognize you
>>85273690I get, idk maybe I am a little better
>>85262358I didnt cheat on my ex gf when she stopped having sex with me (before the inevitable avoidant attachment breakup). In retrospective maybe I should have. Because what the fuck do you mean you don't want to have sex with me? Either you find me repulsive or you found someone who you believe is more attractive than I am, so fuck you for making me feel ugly and disgusting.
>>85262358Yes but they would never fall in love with (You) in particular.
>>85262358Yeah that's me OP>>85262365Also I can sing