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Just raise the bull's baby, cuck. It's not a big deal.
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are men really that insecure that they refuse "used goods" despite it not changing the woman in any way
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>>85264767
Women would honestly rather die alone than date someone who has a crush on them until after she's had another man's kid
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>>85264773
>despite it not changing the woman in any way
what do you mean, she literally had another life with some other man she bet on instead of you, and now you should pick up the tab? sure.
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>>85264767
What's the point of dating a woman? Ultimately it's about impregnating her with your sperm. It's not that hard to compute.

Also, most men are now keenly aware how oofers end up in sexless marriages and what kind of low-information retard would willingly sign up for that?
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what, you don't like being an utterly expendable beast of burden that only exists to provide material and emotional resources to an overgrown womanchild? ummmm babe that's an ick...
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>>85264796
this
>oh anon has a crush on me? err he's not really my type....
10 years later they remember this and treat you as a 'fallback'. how insulted would you be
>>85264773
every man i've known in a long relationship has told me their wives are insecure about the man's previous relationships
but i guess they don't think the same applies to them for some reason
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>>85264773
>make a full human being out of her body
>change her in no way
Lmao liberals actually believe this shit.
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>>85264767
Do women really not get why a man wouldn't be interested in a woman who sees him as a backup after she divorced and had a kid? I saw most women in the comments agree with the woman in the story. Can any femanon tell me how you see this?
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>>85264767
>>85264773
The big issue here is "crush". If a man has a crush, or oneitis, then it's his greatest fantasy that he could become the most important person to her, in a relationship or otherwise. It's not just about the love, but about being the her everything. 99 times out of 100 though, a woman will value her child(ren) above anyone else. That's tolerable if it's a man's own child, but if it's another man's? Then the fantasy doesn't come true, the man's crush or oneitis never comes to love or consider him the important, in her life. She loves and values a person who is half her ex, more than the guy.

Meanwhile if the woman were just a single mom the guy was interested in or had the hots for, not his crush or oneitis, then he's more likely to accept her and just get over the issue of the kid. Because there was no shattered fantasy aspect.
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>>85264767
If she didn't want me at her best, I don't want her at her worst
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Why doesn't she kill her bastards to prove she loves the fallback guy? That would be very romantic.
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>>85265680
she never loves the fallback guy but always craves the tall black guy
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>>85264773
>>85264773
>not changing the woman in any way

Definitely widens the vagina to give birth

T. Breeder
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>>85264935
Foids are NPCs. They don't see it as anything.
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>>85265708
Never done a before childbirth/after childbirth comparison with the same woman but I think this is a meme. I've banged plenty of single moms and none of them were loose. Tightest woman I've ever been with had two kids and I've taken a couple virginities.
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>>85264767
The only thing I dislike about William Faulkner is the he did this cuck shit but oh well I guess he was kind of a beta manlet.
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>>85264935
It's pathetic. As a woman, you have the ability to create life with the help of your male partner. Bringing a child into the world should mean choosing a partner who is willing to love, support, and help raise that child. If you were retarded enough to sleep around and have a child with someone who has no intention of being a responsible father instead of choosing a man that genuinely loves and cares about you, then you have 0 critical thinking skills and don't deserve to bring a child into this world. Actions have consequences, and women shouldn't be held accountable for the choices they make, but of course that's never going to happen right? It's always some sort of mind fuckery just to not be at fault, it's always someone else's fault. Besides women shouldn't be able to shift their parental responsibilities onto a good man after being abandoned by a bum who never intended to be a committed partner. I personally feel quite embarrassed to acknowledge I am categorized with these peanut sized brain whores.
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>>85264767
>man would rather die alone than raise someone else's child
Correct.
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>>85264773
Never play over another mans saved game
Difference between expecting someone to not mind your promiscuous past and raising someone elses kid
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>>85264773
>are restaurant guests really that insecure they refuse to eat the half-eaten plate somebody else left behind despite it not changing the meal in any way
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why do women have kids with men they wont spend even 10 years with? this is basically torturing an innocent child btw
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>>85264767
>"It's JUST BECAUSE she HAD A BABY"
>Yes I will purposefully avoid his other rationale, that being a back-up option is insulting and degrading.
One would think we had hit terminal foid fatigue decades ago and yet the bottom keeps falling out.
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>>85264767
are women really this retarded?
i don't believe it
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yeah it has nothing to do with the kid he's just a symptom of the problem
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>>85264767
This is actually very funny, after I turned 30 all kinds of women I knew earlier in life got in contact. It was great sleeping with the ones that were still hot but I brought my own condoms since every dude knows about betabuxx now.
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dont care how hot a woman is if she isnt virgin she is 0
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fake post
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>>85264767
Some extremely lazy bait anon but I guess I can't blame you seeing how many people fell for it.
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>>85264767
Anti cuckery is a hard coded instinct that predates your human mind.
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>>85264773
you know most other male animals will kill the children of their female mates if said children are from other males, right?
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>>85264773
Lol women date dark triads that kill for percieved cuckery yet say shit this to betas. Her ex Jamal went to prison for stabbing a dude in the neck for simply hollering at her but you are the bad guy for refusing to date her and lil Jamal Jr.
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>>85266022
I don't think you are a woman but if you actually are one wow.
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>>85266491
That's bait, but you raise a good point.

Horses are notorious bad about that to the point that mares will fuck every male so none can know for sure her foal isn't theirs
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>>85266491
They do that because being childless causes certain female animals, like lions, to go into heat
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>>85264796
Why are women like this huh?
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>>85264935
Why don't they marry father of their kid?
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>>85266022
lol you disgusting pickme all moids are for our use
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>>85264767
This happened to me too lmao. She got pregnant then her husband left her and suddenly she's trying to hang out with me and sending me pics of her kid and asking me to teach him shit. It was really insulting to be honest because it's clear the only reason she's interested in me is desperation, not because she ever felt the same way about me that I used to feel about her. Honestly though her having a kid was the best thing to happen to me, instantly got me over her and made her less attractive.
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>>85266882
Because the father already left or they don't want to be tied down with marriage. I can't speak for all of them, theres multiple reasons why and a majority of those reasons are retarded.
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>>85267044
Keep sucking your own massive dick clit broad.
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>>85266882
The father is a genuine sociopath that hates being tied down to some bitch in most cases
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>>85267415
How could that be? I thought women intuitively know how good your personality is and are perfect judges to determine who is or is not worthy of sex?
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>>85264773
>despite it not changing the woman in any way
A man's semen is stored inside you forever
Microchimerism
>basedience has deboonked this!
More likely repressed it because of the politically incorrect implications.
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>>85264767
Are women really this utterly fucking delusional and retarded? Holy shit, they really cannot add 2 and 2. Its hilarious to me when they try to tell men what they should do, like, bitch, you dont even grasp a fraction of what goes in the mind of a man, much less you could understand how they fucking feel about stuff even if he openly told you. Holy kek, women are fucking dumb, i really feel insulted when a woman tries to lecture me, its like listening to a 4 yo argue about why he should be able to be fed only on candy.
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>>85264773
Having kids literally changes EVERYTHING about a relationship you baiting tard

>t. single father
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>>85264767
>I asked why he'd reject his dream girl
Let me put it in foidtalk: imagine falling in love with this rich handsome man who never gives you the time of the day. He marries some vapid golddigger and gets divorcedraped. The entire ordeal takes a toll on him. He loses his entire wealth, shape and even starts balding.

Some time later, he starts pursuing you and is actively more interested, but he's deadbroke, has developed alcoholic addiction and will essentially be relying on you since he has nothing else to offer. Still interested? Let's not forget that he practically snubbed you during his peak. Even if we tried to make it fair and assume he stayed physically attractive, that dismissal alone is emotionally painful. To be suddenly pursued after that dismissal and after they got fucked and dumped by the exact antithesis of you is just as stunning, given that that person who you pined after considered that PoS more worthy for their affection than you were. Not only is it a consolation prize, it's a permanent reminder that they only settled for you after they no longer thought they were too good for you.
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>>85267525
No. I have a terrible personality but I'm chiseled like Adonis. I've gotten up and left in the middle of dates and they call me and ask to suck my dick. I assure you that women absolutely don't have any intuition for good choices. I texted an ex to bring me McDonald's and suck my dick and she did.
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>>85264767

As he said, it's not just the baby. He also doesn't want to be someone's backup choice. The man has enough self-respect to not allow himself to be "settled for".

Also, if she wants to date as a parent so badly, she can date single men who also have kids.
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>>85264981

> 99 times out of 100 though, a woman will value her child(ren) above anyone else

You must have not met a lot of single women. A large number of them end up in that situation because they were too fixated on dick and in-the-moment romance to actually think about anything else, including risk or future consequences. Many of them will absolutely neglect their kids to fawn over a man, especially when they know having a kid severely limits their alternative options. I've even seen women spend child support money on their boyfriend instead of their kids.
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>>85265680

In nature, it is the male's responsibility to kill the offspring after replacing the previous male.
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>>85267814
Nigga, i like milfs as much as the next guy but i cannot do that to the little fellas, i just avoid single mom like the plague. If she loves her kids more than me, i have nothing to do there, if she values me over her kids, i want nothing to do there because shes obviously mentally unstable. Most women, even if childless, rationalise the thing of riding the cock carousel after being a mom as "yeah, she DESERVES to have her own life besides rising the child", which i think its fucking insane because you are asking for your kid to grow up into a fucking serial killer.
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>>85266583
>mares will fuck every male so none can know for sure her foal isn't theirs
thats the future of our society btw
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>>85268184
>thats the future of our society btw
Future? You must be from 2000 huh.
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>>85264796
>mortalkombat_OHHHHH.mp4
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>>85264767
that's bait but if she had any game whatsoever she'd be able to win him over. problem is zero women have game and she doesn't actually want him.
she needs him but doesn't want him, you need to approach like you want him but don't need him.
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what is this post. why is that obviously fake "post" in the picture structured like that. is this a fetish thread?
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>>85264773
>are men really that insecure that they refuse "used goods" despite [falsehood]
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>>85264767
Women need to work on how easily they put out for chad instead of complaining about men. Take some accountability for once please, foids. This is a problem of your own making, and a result of your own conscious adult choices, it has nothing to do with men.

Men make the right choice avoiding you if you demonstrate being a bad mom by breeding with a man who wont care for your kid, bringing them into a world without a good father is cruelty on YOUR part and it is not some random man's job to hop into your life and solve it.
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>>85267725
this and he also has erectile dysfunction
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lowkey i would marry a jewish divorced dad and have my own kid with him so that i can raise a full jew and a halfie, greta gerwig style
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>>85264773
Disingenuous cuckold simp drivel
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>>85267775
Single fathers are usually good parents and want nothing to do with the trainwrecks known as single mothers. There's the big problem with your plan.
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>>85264935
Women are incapable of caring about any problem that is fundamentally unable to affect them.
Basically any problem that only affects men, women will claim isn't a problem and try to shame men for caring about it.
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>>85264767
>date their crush
kek
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>>85268612
>Take some accountability for once please, foids.
You're asking too much.
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>>85264767
I unironically agree with the poster in picrel, I don't want to spread my shitty genes. I will happily raise a kid who isn't biologically mine as my own. Many people do this because their own child would result in said child having a miserable existence.
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I don't play with someone else's corrupted save file.
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>>85269670
I bet you would faggot lol
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>>85264767
nobody's "romantic dream" involves being a father of a mix raced bastard child.
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>>85269760
I'm straight however
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>>85269670
Just adopt a kid together. I don't want to have to deal with some ex or the child not respecting me because I'm not their father figure.
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>>85269670
I don't want to spread my genes either
but I also don't want to raise kids in the first place, like it's just not what I want to do with my life, even if I could somehow guarantee a happy kid whose brain isn't fucked up I still wouldn't do it
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>>85270715
I'm ok with it if the child is young enough. Respect is earned and not given freely.
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>>85264767
>since high school
Something is fishy here...exactly how long they had been in contact for her to immediately contact him because that means he has been in contact with her while she was railed by other man, thus she was yearning for her while preggo from another man.
Thus, he wanted to be the bull and cuck the other guy but alas lol
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>>85264767
Women know exactly what they're doing, and men aren't stupid. Treat guys like options or just get knocked up by Chad to suddenly turn a new leaf on the same men you didn't give a single fuck about, win stupid prizes. Funny how the tables turn on single mothers.
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>>85271816
Also, it's like women know and sense when their value as its highest, but they also know when it plummets hard so they try to use insurance or something. But they don't realize they're making terrible deals with men if they act this way, and they know that they only do this to good men.
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>>85271791
It's plausible he added her socials during the time. He didn't have to necessarily be in her life or in contact with her for contact to be established.
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>>85264815
>Also, most men are now keenly aware how oofers end up in sexless marriages and what kind of low-information retard would willingly sign up for that?

It's not necessarily that the marriage would be sexless. The issue is that she stops being attractive in the eyes of any self-respecting man if she has someone else's son. She could be hot, whatever, if she has a son she loves and has to take care of, it's going to be very hard to see her in the same light (I've been there, the girl was hot but I didn't go through with it). Also, it was obviously no secret that she wanted me for my earning potential as well (we were both in college at the time).
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>>85271855
Also, it's a self-defeating way of declaring "I'm not that good looking, this is the best I could get, not a virgin or a girl that didn't have a son."
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>>85264767
>woman likes shitty men
>wants me now
this implies that she thinks I'm a shitty man too and it would offend me
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>>85264767
It is a deal breaker. I won't be with her if she gets pregnant, has his kid.
I'd just shotty and see ya next life
YoursSun
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>>85264767
The tone of the poster shows that women have absolutely no idea what kind of toll rejection takes on men, and they also can't grasp or have any empathy whatsoever. She can't fathom the idea that the guy would hate her simply for rejecting him and treating him like an outcast.
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>>85264767
I would've fucked her twice and then not called her back. That's what single mothers are for.
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>>85266483
Other animals will even kill the offspring of other males.
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>>85265680
This, they already kill babies anyway, animals kill other animals off spring in the wild anyway just so their own survives. Infanticide is the answer here.
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>>85264773
Are women so insecure they can't raise their bastard kid by themselves? I think so
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>>85266828
But Anon those lions are only insecure because they were brainwashed by the patriarchy
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>>85264767
Bullshit. The man clearly says the whole reason is because he knows that she views him as nothing more than a tool to bail her out of a terrible situation rather than a man she loves. He has the completely right idea.
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>>85264773
Single moms are literally the biggest red flag out there, if someone pumped and dumped her and wasn't willing to stick around it's pretty much a 99.9% guarantee she's an insufferable cunt.
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>>85264773
Strictly speaking, this anon is right. I understand he's parroting foid talking points for the (You)s, and I respect that, but the reason most men wouldn't raise another man's child is from insecurity. There are valid reasons not to ( e.g. a child is a lot of work, many people will want to make sure they're ready before taking that on), but this isn't why he rejected her. Many men do want children, are ready to provide, can love women, but have a fragile ego that says: "Yes. But it's not *my* child." If you were secure in yourself, then you wouldn't care whose child it was.

Culture. Society. Possession. Law. Brainwashing. It tells you that there are people who are A, people who are B, people who are C, and so on. You believe in these labels, you compare yourself to others, put people somewhere in the alphabet and will live your life playing by someone else's rules. Few will realise the ruse, few will recognise that their egos hold them back.

Personally, I wouldn't raise her child either. I could mentor another man's child. I could teach his child. I could guide, train, or direct that child. But to raise his child? This, I cannot do. I cannot provide what it needs, not because I am not good enough, but because what such a child needs is a miracle, a miracle beyond the powers of mortal hands. If I am to raise a child, I need to be sure that the conditions of its conception are right. The right woman. The right man. My rearing ability could be phenomenal with the right child, and wasted with the wrong child. From a quasi-utilitarian (and not from an egoist) perspective, it makes more sense for me not to raise a mystery child; such an endeavour will ultimately limit the (potentially infinite) good I could unleash on the world by raising the right child. I believe myself to be the right man, and so I am very secure in preserving my energy for the right child. It is the safest bet.
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>>85272772
Fuck off you retarded cuck faggot
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>>85272772
>If you were secure in yourself, then you wouldn't care whose child it was.
This makes 0 sense. Get better bait.
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This is not men giving up on their romantic dreams, it's a sane guy refusing to be a walking ATM and full time babysitter for a whore.



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