>>85267122
Look for friend with benefits.

>>85267127
I said date

>>85267122
who the fuck doesn't wanna move in with their partner eventually? are you kidding?

>>85267133
Dating implies its a test period before moving on for more serious stuff. So of course no one wants to "date forever".

>>85267140
>>85267150
I thought alot of you men only cared About sex anyways

>>85267122
Why? Everything is expensive because rent, utilities, food are all based around at minimum 2 people. Why DOUBLE all expenditures?

>>85267158
Thats what friends with benefits is... Sex and no expectations... Noone here said they want to date either.

>>85267165
Cause i don't trust

>>85267158
if you thought that, why even make this thread?

>>85267170
That doesn't answer my point. Why do you even want to live with me most of you only care about sex

>>85267175
you're the bitch from the other thread. Why make another thread with the same stupid topic?

>>85267177
I understand I am being negative by saying this but genuinely is it true?

>>85267199
I really don't understand what your point is here. most men want to have a family together with their significant other and that also entails living under the same roof.

>>85267190
>most of you only care about sex
Wrong

>>85267190
Friend with benefits dont ask such shit is what i meant. people who dating will do. Its why i told you not to look for people that want dating if you dont like that idea.

>>85267140
Not op but men always push chores off onto you. They invade your space and demand attention even when you want to be alone or are busy. It's annoying how dependant they become. It's revolting and kills romantic feelings.

>>85267210
If I offered you sex no strings attached and then left. you would ask for anything else?

>>85267122
Maybe lose some weight and stop being so ugly and then maybe they would

>>85267158
>>85267199
>I thought alot of you men only cared About sex
Think about this for more than 2 seconds. Ignore the propaganda you've been fed your whole life.
Incels exist, right? And are growing. If it was just about sex, every incel could hire a hooker or get a "massage." But they don't. Because Men can actually desire companionship too.

>>85267219
>If I offered you sex no strings attached and then left
I wouldn't accept it because I don't trust whores to not give me an STD.

>>85267211
What I am saying is that even in a dating context don't alot of you men only want sex anyways
>>85267222
Me thinks you don't mean that

>>85267175
So you want to make life harder and pay double on everything because.. why? Trust? Blanket statement on every person ever when you aren't even trying?

>>85267219
I want this. It's called friends with benefits, why are you caling it "dating forever"

>>85267243
Not an argument since both living with someone and the alternative have a challenge the question is which is greater

>>85267237
>What I am saying is that even in a dating context don't alot of you men only want sex anyways
Wrong you stupid bitch we already told you that's not true stop asking the same idiotic question.

Men who want just sex will be friends with benefits with you.
Men who want a real relationship will date you.
It's not fucking brain surgery so get it through your stupid head.

>>85267245
Your question was unclear, use an llm if you can't formulate a coherent question in a foreign language.

>>85267237
>What I am saying is that even in a dating context don't alot of you men only want sex anyways
Most men dont. I didnt used to want sex only either but i got older and now dont think the same. But no some men dont just want sex.

>>85267247
So you are agreeing that you are one of the guys that only wants sex anyways

>>85267214
>oh no... my partner wants to spend time with me
you signed up for it.

>>85267261
Its a simple question. If you don't want only sex what else would you want. In the hypothetical where I am only giving you sex and nothing else what else would you ask for

>>85267237
>Me thinks you don't mean that
Whatever helps you cope foid

>>85267267
You are saying that you are one of those men who only wants sex, so imagining that others who aren't like you isn't really a counterargument

>>85267285
>If you don't want only sex what else would you want
A loving relationship, emotional attachment, a supportive partner, everything couples have been doing since the dawn of time.
You keep blaming men and thinking they just want sex when in reality you're the only unhinged sexhound in this thread.

>>85267289
Seems that I won the argument
>>85267302
>you're the only unhinged sexhound in this thread.
Not based in any evidence
>>85267302
>loving relationship, emotional attachment, a supportive partner,
>>85267302
>everything couples have been doing since the dawn of time.
Is that what you would want, what would that entail

>>85267298
It wasn't always the case so its not counterargument. But if you were smart enough to understand grammar you'd be smart enough to figure your question without help.

>>85267245
>Like what do you mean by that
I mean that men don't care only about sex. If it was truly only about putting penis-in-vagina for men, incels wouldn't exist. Among other societal changes, but that gets off into the weeds.
I would argue that between the sexes, women have become more superficial about sex in recent years (reasons are debatable)

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>>85267122
I'm fine with this as long as the woman is okay with me living with my parents until they fucking DIE.

>>85267327
It isn't since we are talking about long term so you changing erases you ever being that

>>85267269
Yes because you sound like you are absolutely insufferable and didn't even put so much effort in as to use a unique image when you created the thread, so how am I supposed to know literally anything about you.

>>85267333
I asked then what else do you want. If I offered you only sex would you even ask for anything else

>>85267322
>Seems that I won the argument
What argument? You're not good looking enough to be dateable forever and as you age you'll look 100 times worse than you do right now with no eggs to show up for it. You're basically a ticking time bomb and instead of spending your time locking down a good man you're forced to waste your time talking to cumstained r9k gooners for eternity since you can't get any attention from valuable men

>>85267270
Men falling into codependent behaviors that drain you of your energy and goodwill are not something most women want. You can frame it however you want but if every woman you date and cohabitate with eventually grows to resent you and leaves you, and you refuse to acknowledge your own role in creating that environment then I have nothing to say but that I hope the pattern continues until you inevitably die alone.

>>85267350
Look whos gonna have 40 cats and prematurely die alone LMAO

>>85267340
Are you being bad faith right now. Obviously not what is meant


>>85267349

Seems I won the argument

>>85267350
Facts, stay empowered my queen, one day you'll find your beta cuck who's willing to raise your half black son.

Anyone else commenting in this wasted data of a thread is a BBC Enjoyer and Cuck. Let this shit die with its retarded driver.

>>85267374
Not her but wow some men here really think we are stupid enough, to not understand that when someone insults us is because they have no arguments lol

>>85267372
>Seems I won the argument.
It's okay you can always reach out for help or talk to a professional sweety. Plenty of therapists out there who are basically living your future life. They have looses vaginas, no kids and a bunch of cats. So you won't find it hard to find people to relate to when the time comes

>>85267402
Wow I am so correct lol

>>85267387
The fact that you have to point this out kind of shows that you're not. A person with a regular brain (a male) would be able to tell immediately that yes, it is an insult. By the way you're going to have the child of this "codependent" man, then cheat on the beta male who is supposedly better, that's simply how foids like you work.

>>85267423
He just keeps going lol lmao even

>>85267350
right, so why is there the stereotype that married men go to the bar and watch the ball game and come home drunk and late? sounds really codependent and like they're always up in your business, sure.

>>85267346
In what capacity? a one night stand? A friends with benefits? First one, maybe. Second, no.
Ultimately that question doesn't matter, because your post was about dating (aka a relationship) forever without progress or growth.
Someone saying "yeah I'll have sex with you" doesn't mean they don't desire something more substantial. The problem is that possibility seems to be slipping away for a lot of men, so they take the easy option, even if they desire the something more.

>>85267490
Remove labels from the hypothetical. You in a vacuum if you claim to want something more than sex and some hypothetical woman offered you that and only that. Would you ask for anything else.

>>85267554
I didn't ask yes or no I said what else would you want specifically

>>85267511
I don't think I could have sex repeatedly with a woman and not want something more. It is an intimate act, only someone dead inside wouldn't start to catch those types of feelings. So my answer would be no.
(had a typo that changed the meaning of everything)

>>85267565
You still didn't answer >>85267559

>>85267559
build a shared life, exist together rather than as individuals, start a family. Like human civilization has done for thousands of years?
That behavior is hardwired into us, it is how our species survives

>>85267602
>exist together
What does that entail

>>85267459
They do that because the woman doesn't like him anymore and doesn't want him there. He copes like its a rebellion but in truth even if he came home on time she wouldn't want to touch him. And so he malds at the bar.

>>85267616
Then everything else I said? Even without reproduction, the desire to have a partner beyond just a pump and dump is still there. Closeness, intimacy, vulnerability, etc. IDK what you are expecting me to say.
And I'm not even 100% sold on having/raising kids, but to deny that desire is biologically encoded in all of us, and drives our behavior is absurd. Whether or not we follow through is irrelevant, it governs how we interact.

>>85267359
The women who die alone are the desperate sad sack pickmes who aquiesce to men and place all their identity in being accepted by them. The men with half a brain see through this and steer clear of them.
>>85267374
Cope. I wouldn't give any of you bepenised freaks children, you yourselves behave like children. I can take care of myself just fine, meanwhile you languish alone with no social life because you rely on women to do all that work for you.

>>85267698
>Closeness, intimacy, vulnerability
Do you want those things. You telling me if you could lets say have sex with multiple women so you aren't pair bonding because it isn't the same woman. And they would all pump and dump you. You would want more than that

>>85267680
nope. he just doesn't wanna be around your nagging ass constantly.

>>85267715
These hypotheticals are getting too outlandish. Now you are running a harem? lol. At that point no, I wouldn't take that deal. But I'm not some chad ubermensch. He may enjoy that more

>>85267791
Are you being bad faith right now

>>85267122
are you that szpd anon I remember from years ago? you got me thinking about the potential of really spacious houses where we each have our own wing, would be such a dream scenario for me.

>>85267838
I don't think so I am not

>want to live with a gf one day
>no girl has ever been clean enough
anyone know this feely feel? my apartment isn't ocd clean but everything right now as I look around is tidy and clean. Things get dusted, hoovered, floors wiped down, dishes never stay in the sink, I clean behind the toilet and the shower glass, my bed gets made every single morning without fail and I hate it getting crinkled and fucked up, I never have any clutter on the floor and every decor item is placed with intention. I dont feel like a lunatic for wanting to keep this, my parents are very clean people I get this from them. But these women, theyre just too messy for me.

>>85267917
Atleast you can trust s m h

>>85267826
no, I just feel you are asking more and more questions, expanding upon the original hypothetical, in an attempt to get me to admit that yes, for guys it is all about sex. At least that is my perception.

>>85267140
I'm a wizard autist but I know it's common knowledge you get bored with each other once you move in together. That's a shame.

I was thinking perhaps separate bedrooms in a large house would be a good compromise, so you can still visit each other like back in the honeymoon days and not kill the romance by being next to each other at all times.

>>85267983
1. We are talking about you cause you the only person who can answer for
2. The hypothetical is simple. If all you could get from all women was them pumping and dumping you. Would you want anything else. It's a useful hypothetical

>>85267990
Nta but I am op and don't want to cause I don't trust

>>85267122
I have been alone for my entire life and feel suffocated by societal rules that women put on me. They expect me to marry them, move in with them, go on dates etc.
I value my solitude, but like any human being I get lonely once in a while. I would date you if you were okay with giving me space.

Do men who can love exist. or is love just a made up concept to manipulate me

>>85267122
What's been going on lately

So like i still dont see that most men can love

>>85269031
Not surprising considering the state of modern woman or even using op as an example.

>>85268666
Checked. Men give women attention in exchange for sex, and women give men sex in exchange for attention. Depending on who you ask, either of these exchanges can be called 'love'

>>85267158
obviously not on /r9k/