>>85271494
yes, they exist. I have one as a boyfriend, that's how I know
He does all of these and more

>>85271494
For women? No

>>85271505
Is he cheating. Have you checked for a second phone

You would be surprised. Men just want love but men are competing against other men. how can you be a 5'10 man or short competing against 6ft men in 2026

>>85271511
no he is not cheating and does not have a second phone lol

>>85271523
How long have you been together. Easy to say he isn't at the start

>>85271530
We just celebrated our two year anniversary. We live together and spend almost every minute together that we can. If your partner is also your best friend, then you are just spending time with your best friend that you can also kiss and cuddle and have sex with

>>85271494
>"I know I feel both with you and I can dwell in both love and lust, we will fuck each other's brains out and then care for each other, Spend so much time."
Yes.

>>85271543
Who are you quoting. Like I asked the other person, if women would only pump and dump you would you want anything else
>>85271541
If he has a job it is easy to hide cheating. Have you checked

>>85271494
Men are dumb. Some think with their dick and their dick tells them their in love but they're not. It's not malice they're just dumb. It's like when your dog pees on the carpet, he's not trying to piss you off.

>>85271568
Are you a man
>>85271512
If women would only pump and dump you would you want anything else

>>85271554
oh yeah he is totally cheating on me with those 50 year old women and other guys his age lmfao
you seem insufferable

>>85271589
Obviously you don't he is always there are you a man being bad faith or did you not understand that

>>85271494
>>wanting to see your partner happy
>>not wanting to do things that make them unhappy, if possible
Let me guess having boundaries makes you unhappy

>>85271610
I meant things you can help like being disrespectful and or cheating

>>85271554
That's what MyMoonTold me

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>>85271494
>Do men who actually love exist?
I like to think I have the capacity. I don't know. It's been a long time.

>>85271713
Like I asked the other anon If women would only pump and dump you would you want anything else

obviously men want love.
you just want a servant who just does what you want (and that includes emotional labor.)

>>85271581
>are you a man
Yeah, we're pretty dumb

>>85271742
>>85271743
Both of you answer the question If women would only pump and dump you would you want anything else

>>85271754
I'd want to be loved back. Which kinda goes counter if I'm a one night stand. Can I at least get cuddles in bed?

>>85271779
What does that mean, would you even want to spend time together outside sex

I am very in love with my gf. I wanna marry her and have children with her. But I will admit how poorly I've treated women in the past. I tried to love them but I'm super neurotic and I think the chemistry really wasn't there. I do regret my past behavior and I am really sorry for hurting people.

>>85271795
Do you love her or is it just a family unit thing doe. Like wanting to have a future united household. Would you feel the same if you didn't want that

>>85271794
>would you even want to spend time together outside sex
Yes, obviously. I'd want to spend time with them, have an actual relationship, get to know them and have fun together. but if the relationship is just "we fuck on the side" I don't think I'd be happy.

>>85271727
>would you want anything else
Absolutely. I'm apparently weird in that I can't divorce sex from emotion. It's why it felt empty with my ex toward the end

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Ok I guess I am being negative and should be more specific.


You telling me any of you would love and be monogamous to a woman forever, who you example you would never live together. Just go on dates and have sex sometimes. Would you enjoy spending time with her outside of sex.

I am saying never living together because living with someone puts someone in a vulnerable position. Would you love someone who doesn't want to do that

>>85271494
Yes, men who love exist. But you have been doing a poor job at filtering "fuckboys"
Men have to worry about female users, also, and chose women carefully. At least the smart ones do. And that's what you should be doing for men. Just because he's tall and stimulates your foid brain doesn't mean he's automatically a good choice. You have to judge his intent and character. What does a man who wants a long term relationship do? How does he approach you?

I would say it's easier for me to see fuckboys because i'm a man but I can see a using hoe from a mile away too. It's a skill issue. Git gud

>>85271827
>>85271818

You actually would like spending time with a woman outside sex

>>85271829
What does that mean, anyone can cheat or be disrespectful especially when he thinks you will not leave

>>85271828
>you would love and be monogamous to a woman forever, who you example you would never live together.
I dresm of an actual monogamous relationship. Things ended with my ex when she declared she was polyamorous.

Not living together would hurt because I'm clingy, and I would want to share my space with her. But I guess I could make it happen.

>>85271828
Are we just not living together or is there something else? Like she doesn't want me proposing in the future?
>>85271831
>You actually would like spending time with a woman outside sex
Is that a question or was that confirmation? Just checking.

>>85271832
I get that. I guess I should say if she could leave easily if you were actually were being a bad partner. I feel us women are pressured to stay cause the bodycount meme or because you live together. Which yes I am loyal but I wouldn't want someone who wants me because they think they can take advantage of my loyalty

>>85271828
>Would you love someone who doesn't want to do that
If they don't want to be with me, only sometimes, it says they don't trust me or love me. Why would I want to "be" with someone that doesn't want to be with me? That's the whole point

>>85271831
What do you mean what does that mean? It means what it means. You are shit at deciphering intent. Men who just want to fuck you and don't see their relationship with you anything more than a means to do that will show signs of it in their actions, words, and their character. And even if they have the intent of a life long relationship but they will cheat, you are going to see that lack of conviction in their character also

>>85271828
this is ridiculous anon. i have lived with complete strangers because i was born in the early 90s and that's just how living somewhere works.
you're telling me i could live, solely, with one person who i am in love with? i'd jump at the chance. i'd still want my own space sometimes (maybe even my own room) but that says nothing about my love for the other person.

you've had some bad experiences and now you've widened that to all of mankind, or something.

>>85271828
>Would you enjoy spending time with her outside of sex.
>Would you love someone who doesn't want to do that.
If they don't want to live with me or marry me and don't give me hugs or want to cuddle with me then I'm just a fuckbuddy who pays for their meals for that fucking privilege.
In fact, I'd rather the opposite. I'd rather love someone who always gave me hugs and love, lived with me, wanted to marry me, yet was asexual or very rarely wanted sex.
Even worse if they very rarely wanted sex and didn't show intimacy and didn't want to live together or marry me. Seems like torture to me.
Though, I am sure, many men would have different preferences. This is just how I feel.

>>85271494
Yes, I exist, but I'm not a top male so it doesn't matter.

>>85271853
I mean I hear you kinda. But you are a man so you can defend yourself easier

>>85271841
No offense but you should've lead with this from the start instead of speaking in riddles. If you're scared of moving in together because youre afraid of being mistreated without a way to easily leave then there are plenty of men who will be understanding and accept your terms if youre honest and sit down with them. Cause If you vague speak they're gonna get the wrong idea.

>>85271882
Now I should add for clarification. would this be a permanent situation or can the male partner earn your trust enough that you'll feel comfortable enough to move in together?

>>85271841
I guess I can understand that. Like I said, I acknowledge I'm clingy so I know I have trouble letting go.

But I also wouldn't want to pressure someone who doesn't want to he with me into staying

>>85271876
Ok then look at it from a man's perspective
You have a woman that doesn't want to actually be with you. Because they don't trust you, they think you're going to beat them. How misjudged, mischaracterised and insulted are you going to feel for being seen as a monster by the one who is supposed to love you if you never did anything to deserve that disrespect? And you are supposed to think "yep, this is the one. The woman that doesn't trust me, doesn't want to live with me and insults me daily. Yep, I can trust someone like that that doesn't trust me"

Are you fucking stupid? Grow up

>>85271494
Yes. Love is easy. Relationships are hard. Not impossible though. To quit is to deny yourself the opportunity. Keep your head up and your crown will never slip, princess.

>>85271897
HOLY GIGAFUCKINGBASED TRUTHNUKE

>>85271876
>you are a man so you can defend yourself easier
what do you mean by this? >>85271897-san put it well enough, it's like you expect some monster and in return we anticipate women-anticipating-monsters.

in the real, actual world, it's very unlikely anyone of either sex has to defend themselves. i could get jumped going outside today, i will probably lose a physical fight. if a tough gay man wanted to rape me, i'd get raped.
in a relationship that turns abusive, any sort of horrors can happen and that includes social/financial/mind games. strength has nothing to do with it.

>>85271933
Please answer this >>85271891 once you've gotten in thoughts in order. Thank you.

>>85271494
Yes of course. I am like this. My friends are like this. My brothers, my father are all like this.
I mean my mom and dad have been married for over 40 years and they're still loyal to each other, and spend as much time together as they can.

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>>85271494
Yes! I enjoy each second I get to share with my waifu and making her laugh or even smirk makes my day.
>loyal and honest
You know being too honest can be a thing tho, right?

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She ditched the thread, didn't she?

>>85271995
Prolly fell asleep my nigga. It's late

I am sorry for not responding I am thinking
>>85271942
I don't know it's a big thing you know?

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>>85271494
no women who are loyal exist anyways
women be like
>tee hee I wasn't going to cheat he just called me beautiful (and made my foidparts tingle) and I only wanted to be his friend
>proceeds to sneak around and cheat

>>85272015
I know I said I wouldn't respond no I was literally only attracted to my ex boyfriend and didn't see any other men as attractive

>>85271999
>I don't know it's a big thing you know?
NTA but trust is a two way street. You wonder why he doesn't "love you" all the while it seems you don't love him, but never stopped to think about how your own actions play a part. It was all on him. The foundation of any relationship at all whether it be platonic or romantic is trust. Without trust, you don't actually have one. You have a dodgy contract, a convenient temporary alliance that either partner is willing to exploit given the chance

>>85271999
>I don't know it's a big thing you know?
That's actually a great response in itself, you're not just stubbornly digging your heels in on never moving in together.

>>85271999
>>85272032
That said, you do have to be careful who you give your trust to. It is special. Ask yourself why you don't trust him. Is it something he did? Or is it something pathological on your part?

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>>85271999
>I am thinking
Whatcha thinking about OP?

>>85271494
Did all tha and saw that it wasn't reciprocated.
>wanting to see your partner happy
She put herself first, as does society.
>not wanting to do things that make them unhappy, if possible
She put herself fisrt, as does society.
>Being loyal and honest
I learned she had backup plans, as is much more common for women than for men. She lied to me about many things (as I found out after the breakup/over time) while I was as forthcoming as I could be.
>Enjoying spending time together outside sex
We never even had sex. She just fully played me.

I've learned my lesson.

>>85271494
Well, the oxytocin overdose you get after being love bombed leads to terrible feeling withdrawal symptoms which last forever and more relationships just make you more jaded over time.

This means you can feel warm and happy at first and absolutely livid when it's over and increasingly bitter after many gfs and you want to make her feel the same way you feel.

So most guys just default to mindless hookups/escorts/gooning depending on what's available to reduce the bitterness.

In short, you gotta go shota hunting to get love from guys.

>>85272074
Maybe moids and foids aren't so different after all. We've both been hurt and betrayed. How about we try to come together and find a way to bring peace to both our worlds?

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I wonder what OP is thinking about right now
What ever it is, it must be taking all her brainpower and i'm sure it's insightful and not incredibly vacuous

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>>85272126
$10 says she doesn't answer at all

>>85272113
NTA but I keep telling retards on this board that fembots are the same as the rest of us. They refuse to belive me.

I'm done thinking... and I've decided... I HATE moids! DEATH to moids! I'd rather live on the street, get bit by a rat, die of an infection before I live under the same roof as a m*n.

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>>85272126
>>85272143
I was just thinking that if he really loved me then he would know how when I could be with him only that I cant but want to when but wish I could but he doesnt know how and but if could go to his house in the night not then just can only do but not love me

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my mind is telling me that i poisoned my own drink with rubbing alcohol and forgot that i did it to myself

>>85271494
No. I am a liar, a cheater, a sinner, and a homosexual. I speak for all men. I don't want to love a woman, kiss her, hold her hand, do cute shit like cuddle, spend time with each other, talking, sharing something beautiful, looking into her eyes and appreciating her beauty like the first time we met, knowing her and loving who she is as a person. I just want my ass eaten out while you jerk me off then have sex just to bust a nut.

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i was thinking but i started fingering myself this is gonna take a while

>>85272215
You aren't me. I am op and I am having an ond anxiety attack

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>>85272182
>>85272194
>>85272215
Fuck sakes. My sides

>>85272223
Hurry up and tell us what you're thinking. Everyone is getting bored

>>85272223
Well take as much time as you need to calm down. And remember this is just an anonymous image board. You can log off if you need.

You don't owe anyone here.

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>>85271494
men love more intensely than women a lot of the time in my experience. If this is how you feel about men you're likely just looking in the wrong places. Though I will say finding a man who loves you like that is easier when you're willing to take a man who is ugly and/or socially inept.

You guys play any video games?

>>85272271
I'm playing Farming Simulator 25 right now actually

>>85272271
Just got done playing Hunt: Showdown. Actually had a good night

>>85272271
I'm playing Pokemon Heartgold also I got addicted to Umamusume

still fingering ama

>>85271494
honestly it seems cheaper just to fly some poor discord whore out who pretends to love you than deal with any woman or so-called "fembot"
at least the discord whore is upfront about being a whore and the "fembot" will just break your heart in the end

>>85271494
It's interesting seeing your threads because you get BTFO out so readily but you seemingly learn your lesson SLIGHTLY and revise the threads for next time.
You should at some point elaborate on what you mean by disrespect btw.

The thread the other day was "wouldn't break up with you without sex" or something and now it's "enjoys spending time together outside of sex" (which is now I guess presumed to happen with some frequency).

I'll be frank. Why would I want to fuck a random whore? I wouldn't. Why would I want to fuck my gf? Because I already love her and enjoy being with her. At least in theory because I'm single right now lmao.
It's not that I have sex and then have to spend time with her as some payment for it. I would only have sex with her if I already loved her and enjoyed spending time with her.

>>85271754
If women only pumped and dumped I wouldn't bother with them at all. Sex comes later, it's not the primary thing in a relationship.

>>85271828
>Just go on dates and have sex sometimes. Would you enjoy spending time with her outside of sex.
>I am saying never living together because living with someone puts someone in a vulnerable position. Would you love someone who doesn't want to do that
I spend almost all of my time inside these days. If I didn't live with her, and never had the possibility of living with her, I wouldn't think there could be much of a future.
I will admit that depending on the woman it could be tenable, but it quickly crosses into endgame territory of:
>mind if I stay the night?
>sorry that makes me uncomfortable
>...what? It's not like i would sexually assault you or anything, also we just had sex
>yeah but still...
>so you're... comfortable enough being with me, but not actually to the point you're willing to be vulnerable with me, because... you don't trust me.
>yeah lol

>>85272032
>but never stopped to think about how your own actions play a part.
She is incapable of understanding that the disrespect she obsesses over is often earned and that her behavior plays a part.
In her defense, she apparently has some stories like a guy taking her on a first date some two hours away and ditching her, which sucks sure, but that kind of a thing doesn't happen randomly when you've been dating for any amount of time.
She wants to know some secret cosmo magazine tip to instantly know if a guy is good or not apparently lacking the ability to discern herself, when that's just not how human relationships work even outside the romantic kind.

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>>85272209
What the fuck when did I get drunk and type this and forget I posted this

>>85272587
Ironically her behavior is just gonna leave some guy feeling broken just like her and unable to trust future partners. She's already trying to build an escape hatch, the moment she perceives the slightest sign of trouble she's gone.

>>85272548
>I would only have sex with her if I already loved her and enjoyed spending time with her.
Oh, I should add for your sake because you can't tell, but not all men are like this. Some will just do the pump and dump.
>AIIIEEEE ANON HOW DO I KNOW
Well it used to be back in the day you would have to get married for teh sex. Kind of already knew the guy was committed at that point. Just put off the sex if you want to see.

>>85272619
>not all men are like this.
JENKINS! Are you trying to say that taking a risk and betting on someone you love is... PART of the relationship???!!! How will OP handle this revelation?

>>85272618
>Ironically her behavior is just gonna leave some guy feeling broken just like her and unable to trust future partners.
Not necessarily. The thing I want to try to find words to explain to her, is that while betrayal damages ability to trust, sure, the lack of trust there in the first place simply caps how far a relationship can develop.
Imagine the trust you have for some stranger on the street. How far are you willing to go with them?
Now imagine some friend of yours. How far are you willing to go with them?
Maybe you wouldn't do anything sexual with the friend (I hope), but you would maybe be willing to spend time with them, in a way you wouldn't do with the random stranger off the street.
There's nothing the stranger can do to really get you into an intimate position, because you are totally closed off from them.
And so it is the same with relationships. If you keep your partner closed off, because you're scared of being hurt, because you've been hurt before, because etc. etc., they can sense this subconsciously and it modulates their own behavior. I won't feel much of a desire to close the gap if I know a woman's keeping me arm's distance, I don't enjoy the chase.
So I don't try to tear down the walls, either out of disinterest or even respect, and she interprets that also subconsciously as "he's not trying" or "he doesn't care".
But damn it woman. Why would you want me to care and want to be close to you, if you've already committed to keeping me away? You want me to just yearn for something I won't get and anguish?

Look OP. Here's the thing. You don't need to completely figure out all this shit in:re trusting someone. Find someone, and the trust and all that stuff will come naturally over time w/ repeated exposure. All you have to do is be willing to give the (right) guy a chance.

>>85272641
DAMN IT ROY. You think I don't know that?
How am I supposed to convince this bird the cage is open, she just has to fly out?
>just fly little bird, you have wings, it comes naturally
But the damn thing just tilts its head at me like its a chicken!

>>85272600
You were at the tavern getting familiar with ale and wenches, king.

>>85272215
Lol lmao lol