>asians being desirable is false>I'm south East Asian btw
>>85273034What is the point of this post? Arguing on the semantics of southeast Asian verses east Asian? Only actual chinks care about this debate. No one outside of your sphere gives a damn about arbitrary labels you use to latch onto cultural identity.Power and societal change is controlled by economics and social movements, but arguing over the semantics over sea monkeys and chinks is not any of those things. Good b8.
>>85273034I really wish Asians would just embrace 'orientalism' which is, in my view, a beautiful mythological and fantastical view of The Orient. Instead we get asian girls trying to be white stacies and they're boring and it sucks. Please, asian girls, embrace Orientalism.
>>85273064Lmao seething jungle monkey
>>85273034>>I'm south East Asiannice
>>85273073Orientalism is precisely this sugarcoated view created by the West to construct "the Other" and create a divide in order to justify the need to go into their lands to supposedly make "discoveries" It goes hand in hand with colonialism
>>85273199Are you Asian? I'm not going to continue the conversation if you're not actually Asian.
>>85273204Go read Edward Said's book on Orientalism , it doesn't just apply to Asians, but also to people from the Middle East. It would be silly of you to think that only Asians have the right to talk about this.
>>85273034dont pile on me with shit like "pedophile".Just a few years ago i used to think that white women looked the best in the world, but that was actually because i was still in high school and a lot of the girls stood out for having very aesthetic slender, graceful bodies, and the few girls of other races all looked like shit (just like most of the white girls but they didnt really register at the time lol) but now i look around me and all of the white girls and young women look like cheap whores, they dress like cheap whores (even prepubescent girls which is very indignating) and they are all fat
>>85273199Lmao you sound like a libtard phaggot kys
>>85273249Do you have any arguments? Oh, wait you're just a disgusting, uneducated obese chud
>>85273230I don't agree with your view nor his. I think both you and he are wrong. I think Orientalism is a fantastic thing precisely because it actually generates interest in various cultures. I understand that libtarded freaks think that is the worst thing ever and that everyone should just be one big fat amorphous blob with all the same traits and qualities but I don't give a shit about libtarded retarded takes. Superimposing 'orientalism' onto multi-faceted trade/market/land disuptes and annexations is stupid and low iq. Mongols destroyed everyone they wanted to not because of some 'orientalism' but because they wanted more land and more power. >>85273263>chudOh you're the resident r9k troon that bleats libtard leftwing talking points lol.
Also, the funniest thing about the people who believe in the anti-imperialist 'orientalism' is that they're always pissed that people either: 1. Don't take enough interest in their culture/land/people (they claim to be marginalized)2. If people do take interest in their culture/land/people they then claim that they are being 'othered' and treated as an 'exotic' and 'fetishized'Just another boring power game by these people who are always critical but never creative.
>>85273280>Mongols destroyed everyone they wanted to not because of some 'orientalism' but because they wanted more land and more powerThat sentence alone shows that you don't have a grasp of the subject and that you're too retarded to understand what I'm saying. Every imperialist nation will use motives and narratives to push for interventionism. The romanticization of the Orient was created by the French, British, and later by the American colonial empires once again, they are intrinsically linked. The idea of the "Orient" was conceptualized by French and English Orientalists during the 18th century, but you wouldn't know that because, as I said nazitards here are often people who don't actually read >Oh you're the resident r9k troon that bleats libtard leftwing talking points lolschizo.
>>85273355Said's orientalism has amassed massive criticism but if you're going to continue to treat it like it is a biblical text given by god without any errors and totally perfect then you're just looking for an echo chamber. I'm not going to participate in that. I already said that I don't agree with his views nor yours. You have a naive and infantile conceptualization of human nature and the way tribes, communities, and societies are structured - what you call imperialism another tribe calls protection, nurturing, and sustaining their people. Every tribe has engaged in it's own romanticization, they all have their own myths and legends. It's so incredibly stupid to think that the occident totally created the orient. No the orient built itself. This juxtaposition of the occident as being the evil aggressor and the orient being the angelic victim is infantile and infantilizing. You're more than welcome to continue to hold your views. As I said earlier, I don't agree with you and your views.
>>85273034She won't say by who she was picked on but we all know...
>>85273380>Said's orientalism has amassed massive criticismHe wasn't widely criticized, you insincere asshole. He was even widely influential, and criticism will always exist and thankfully, I wouldn't want to live in the fascist society you fantasize about.>You have a naive and infantile conceptualization of human nature and the way tribes, communities, and societies are structured - what you call imperialism another tribe calls protection, nurturing, and sustaining their peopleOh, really? If you had even the slightest interest in anthropology, you'd realize that the nonsense you're spouting is exactly what you're living out in your own fantasies. During the Neolithic era, the overwhelming majority of human societies were egalitarian hunter-gatherer societies, imperialism is a product of capitalism and a tool of the bourgeoisie to amass even more resources and wealth. Yes, they do care about their communities, but only their small, close-knit circles they couldn't care less about some obese, stinking-ass poor chud>Every tribe has engaged in it's own romanticization, they all have their own myths and legendsSo you don't know what Orientalism is.
>>85273355Actually, any true imperialist will push to homogenisation. You don't see rans romanticizing barbarians or Russians romanticizing yakuts. Globoschlomo we have right now is just american empire. The system if colonialism has just changed but it's still all the same. America threatens to destroy the whole world with nukes if you go against it and don't give it your resources. So everyone is obliged to bow even without being invaded.What French and Germans invented was the romanticist movement that supported the development of sovereign ethnicities and ended up being a cornerstone of decolonisation politics not just for the world but also within Europe many smaller ethnicities gained claim to nationality for the first time. Europe basically invented the idea that land and state should be owned by the people that inhabit it not just some rich elites. But America is trying to undo this progress actively because it wants to be a proper empire. The orient is a part of movement that aimed to recognize the humanity and dignity of humans outside of white aristocracy (peasants) . There were similar romanticized productions of locals indegieous people as well at the same time.Do you understand that giving up your culture is actually same as being conquered?
>>85273034Is it true that East Asian DNA causes them not to smell bad when they sweat?
>>85273464Incompatible genetics cause you to smell bad. Blacks think whites stink, whites think nonwhites stink, etc. Whites and East Asians are just highly compatible so they smell good to each other (generally)
>>85273452"Influential" and "criticised" are not mutually exclusive. Marx, Freud, and Darwin are deeply influential, yet they are among the most heavily critiqued figures in history. Said is no different; he has faced robust critique from Marxist, Middle Eastern, and Western historians alike.As for the anthropology, you are mixing up your eras and systems. Imperialism is not a product of modern capitalism or the bourgeoisie; the Roman, Han, Persian, and Aztec empires conquered, extracted wealth, and dominated regions thousands of years before capitalism existed. Furthermore, the Neolithic era is literally defined by the Agricultural Revolution, the exact moment humans transitioned away from egalitarian hunting and gathering and began building social hierarchies, private property, and early states. Enjoy your echo chamber.
>>85273513>"Influential" and "criticised" are not mutually exclusive. Marx, Freud, and Darwin are deeply influential, yet they are among the most heavily critiqued figures in historyAnd yet these are also the theorists we rely on today to continue refining our knowledge of the world. Again, criticism doesn't mean rejecting all of someone's ideas. Nazitards often have a black and white, low IQ view of things.>Imperialism is not a product of modern capitalism or the bourgeoisie; the Roman, Han, Persian, and Aztec empires conquered, extracted wealth, and dominated regions thousands of years before capitalism existed.Imperialism may be the product of both capitalism and empires. Once again, I get the impression that you can't grasp the nuance. What they share is a ruling class composed of the priesthood, tech billionaires, etc. Once they reach the monopoly stage, it necessitates an expansion of markets and resource gathering, so countries with enough finance capital (the merging of banking and industrial capital) will, by necessity, export that capital and super-exploit weaker countries and workers>the Neolithic era is literally defined by the Agricultural Revolution, the exact moment humans transitioned away from egalitarian hunting and gathering and began building social hierarchies, private property, and early states.Are you seriously summarizing an entire period of the Neolithic with a revolution that didn't happen until much later? And even if agriculture did emerge, that in itself isn't enough to say that hierarchies inevitably form, it depends mainly on the resources. For example, wheat is easily stolen and spotted, unlike taro and bananas. That's why, in places like Egypt, where wheat was grown, an elite began to emerge and monopolized weapons
>>85273642Markets will always form due to self-commodification which then performs the necessary behavioural changes required for the development of the installation of hierarchies and then cults, tribes, political structures, thrones, kingdoms, fealties, empires etc etc. I have to go now but I hope you have a good day. Btw I get a lot of online advertisements from China which show all sorts of amazing beautiful wonders of that strange place, they're very enticing, I think China is seducing me to make a visit and then spend my money there seeing the wondrous amazing sights of China.
>>85273686China already has enough talent , they don't need a bot working full-time on 4chan.
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