> first date> girl asks:> so what's your opinion on feminism?How do you respond?/What do you do?
>>85326900I think I would genuinely respond with: As a man, it bores me a little. You do you, but I really don't care.
>pretend I didn't hear her>ignore the question>walk right past her>Wow, nice house you have there!
>>85326900Well-intentioned movement, some of what it did was important, but a lot of it amounted to throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
"Women shouldn't be beaten or abused. But they also shouldn't be able to vote."
>>85326900>How do you respond?Turn 360 and walk away.
girls dont ask that question unless its part of their identityso whatever you say, its wrong
"Don't really care.So, what's your favourite anime?"
I am a feminist!
>>85326900'I don't really follow politics.'It's a litmus test, her response will tell me if she's worth dating or not. The trash takes itself out.
>>85326900I would simply go on an hour long rant without pause explaining mathematically why feminism happened and what it's effect have been on society, by the end of my rant her panties would be soaked from the sheer confidence and intelligence with which i dismantled her entire world view. Then we would go home and cuddle.
>>85326900I tell her that I support the feminism of fully abolishing all gender roles - including the ones women actually like, like having the man be a dominant masculine provider who takes all the initiative. She then calls me a disgusting pig who is just appropriating feminism in order to try and get out of having to pay for dates, and leaves right then and there, even though I genuinely unironically think feminism is good and just want gender roles completely abolishedFeminists in the 2000s and 2010s talked a lot about how "feminism is for everyone, gender roles and patriarchy hurt men too!". Some of us listened, and agreed. So of course now the new feminists are embracing Reactionary Feminism that throws away equality and ending gender roles altogether and instead just wants to twist gender roles around to benefit women even more
>>85327188Real. That's exactly what happened to me.
>>85327363Yeah, i put the same thing in my dating profile, i dont know how many fucking women i swiped no who had in their profile things like "feminism" "antifascism" "communist" etc etc etc. Ive even had women literally suck on my cock unprompted after calling me a misogynist/fascist. They arent even sincere about their bullshit
>>85327452I agree but I think abolishing gender roles is just a fantasy.That's why any feminist movement will always just evolve into a culture of man-hating.
>>85326900Blight to society
"define that. i've heard things being called 'feminism' which you would probably hate, so tell me what you mean by it."
>>85326900get up an leave without saying anything more. she clearly cares too much about politics and isn't worth my time.
>>85326975What exactly did it do that was good? I can't think of a single thing.
>>85326900I fully support feminism! Women are strong and empowered now, so they can defend our country from the evil terrorist Iranian regime. Us men have had too long in the spotlight of military affairs, it's time for the women to have their turn. We'll let you girls handle this.
>>85326926>she shoots you for trespassingincelsisas...
>>85326900go on a schizophrenic rant about how the jews invented women to keep men out of heaven
"It sucks" then I do a 360 and walk out backwards if she responds negatively
>>85326900Is it messed up that part of the reason I want a gf or just to talk to girls at all is just so I can get into arguments with her like thisI just want to mentally dominate a stupid foid in the marketplace of ideasI want to see her get visibly upset at the realization that I'm smarter than her and completely immune to her idiotic ideas
>>85326900>i think the freedom and choice is good, but some people have become too obsessed with the wrong things, or allowed themselves to be manipulated by those in power with ulterior motives.Then i proceed to point out how easily the manipulation can happen by bringing up BLM and it's catchy slogan, that made it a death sentence to question anything around the topic because the convo instantly changes to>omg are you saying black lives DON'T mattermeanwhile the owners are buying million dollar mansions.
>>85326900>I'll become a feminist as soon as I see feminists protesting in DC for women to be eligible for the draft
>>85328117despite people always talking about "nuance", they actually hate it. clarifying terms has never led to a positive outcome in intimate situations>>85328941everyone, watch out! anon's ulting!
Anything other than "it's stupid" and you lost.
>>85328117this, but while she explains, i excuse myself and say i need to go to the bathroom, but actually go to the register, pay my half, and leave
Being a feminist is such an easy green flag anons you guys are really missing out here. You get better sex with sexually liberated women too. Your loss
>>85326900>>85326926>I don't think about it at all>I don't know anything about itif you're pressed for an answer. she will then explain what it means to her and you'll be able to judge how crazy she is
>>85326900I'm not a liar so I would just answer the question. If it's an issue it probably wouldn't work out anyways. To answer the question that YOU are asking me I think it's rather flawed fundamentally because pro equality changes that could be made in western societies don't tend to fall under female advocacy and I don't like it in practice because feminists tend to be somewhat misandric and tend to just act as a female advocacy group which if you wanted to claim feminism is just pro heckin equaliterino then you can't do.
>>85329869you know what's better than that? not being an invertebrate faggot with no principles
>>85329869Being a chud is also an effective way to fuck lib women. Arguing with them and standing up for what you believe in instead of groveling for pussy by parroting everything she says pushes the right buttons in foids.
>>85327506Just because something is hard doesn't make it fantasy. There was a time when ideas like toppling the divine rule of kings, abolishing slavery, making it so that the average random person could read and write and even have the slightest of say over their rule, the idea that women were people at all who could take any part in public life, and so on were all seen as fantasy. Things have progressed in a manner that is not entirely to the advantage of everyone thriving, but we've still really come so far if you look at the long view of things. And we could go so much further still. A better world is possible, but not if people just give up and refuse to believe.
>>85330100I will enjoy being friends with and having fun sex with beautiful young women. Enjoy your choices!>>85330121Nice fanfic
I prefer traditional feminism over modern feminism.
>>85330139we've been over this it's not sex if you're watching
>>85326900>How do you respond?/What do you want for dinner?
>>85326900not too interested in it but hope it works out for you
>>85330122The difference is it's ingrained into our entire biology.The way society treats and views women will always be different to how it treats and views men. There will always be disparities, pros, and cons.Feminism will always just be about benefiting women.
>Of course I'm a feminist. Men make much better feminists than women, so why wouldn't I be one?
I hate foids and feminism. If you won't swallow my incel cock, you are 100% worthless to me and should be publicly executed
>>85330294>The difference is it's ingrained into our entire biologySimilar arguments were made for all the other inequalities and hierarchies and been proven wrong again and again. And the idea of men and women as some extremely biologically different creatures just doesn't really hold up when you go past the laziest pop science stuff. The most that can be said is that men on average tend to be stronger than women, but even this can have socially constructed aspects, and at any rate, raw strength was never the thing that determines survivability and in the modern age matters less and less compared to brainpower. And male and female brains just aren't really a thing (no matter how much the lazy modern feminists try to turn "sacred femininity and masculinity" and "masculine/feminine energy" into a thing and basically repackage old trad shit in a feminist veneer). Brain/mental diversity within genders are much broader than that between them, and that's even still with a world where substantial socially constructed gender role shit remains (it takes longer than a few decades or even a century or more to get rid of millennia of societal brainwashing and culture). Of course it's just not cool or hip or trendy (on the left right or center) to see gender differences as primarily socially constructed and pretty minor even with remaining socially constructed aspects still existing, but 2012 era social liberalism was fucking right about a lot of shit including this shit even if y'all turn your backs on it and close your hearts to it
>>85326900I say that feminism isn't a well defined set of political objectives but an umbrella of women as a political interest group, and within the group there are different ideals and goals. So, the only reason I would say I support feminism is to pander to a woman without actually committing to any stances. Then I think I would politely end the date.
>"I have always been a feminist, have always liked feminine women". I dont really know what feminism is and I dont care.
>>85330139you get no pussy at all.
>>85330658>idea of men and women as some extremely biologically different creatures >raw strength was never the thing that determines survivabilityWe are extremely different and women have never built and maintained a civilization but these two statements confirm to me that I shouldn't really waste my time with this conversation. Why? Because when I turn off the computer screen, I go out into the world and see that being a man or woman comes with completely different socio and economic standings as well as life experiences and expectations. You will always be affected by your gender. Even after many decades of feminism, men still perform the hard labor jobs that keep civilization running and women still expect the man to earn more.That's why the 2012 era social liberalism you speak of died out. Because reality and base instincts will always set in and beat out any idealism.
>>85327452only one post on here even merits a response the rest is just predictable slopbut yeah i mean>>85326900i'd probably say that's cool and reference Laugh of the Medusa by Helene Citroux
>>85330900My post was good, retard.
>>85330658Do you not know what a menstrual cycle is?
>>85326900"Not into it. I don't like trannies.">>85329027I did this to my ex for years. It was a lot of fun.
>>85330769>I'll post muh radical centrist fallacy meme pic from ages ago whenever someone with a brain and soul posts because I don't have the balls to actually argue back fuck off and kill yourself
>>85330941changing your opinions based on what currently benefits you is the exact opposite of having a soul.
>>85330931you're probably some poor soul still stuck in his chud phase
>>85326900It pits the sexes against eachother, I don't like it.
>>85326900> so what's your opinion on feminism?That discussions like this should take place over multiple nights to ensure a thorough and deep exchange takes place because that's what it deserves. idk if this works I barely date
>>85331097I don't describe myself as a chud. Neither was my post chuddy. Not sure how you got that idea KEK.
>>85326900Probably ask her what she means by feminism.>If she answers something about equalityThen press her and ask her if she really believes that. For example, that women should be drafted and that suicide rates should also become more equal.Or just take the humorous approach and ask her what her opinion on masculism is.
>>85326975>Ew gross you're one of those incel nazis huh?Good job "moderate" faggot-kun. You managed to find a way to be both a simp and not get laid.
>>85330941that pic got to you alright, kek
>>85330941I notice you never actually explained why its wrong.
>>85331347If she reacted like that then I would just say "Alright, well you're a bit ugly for my tastes anyway, so it is what it is." and walk away.
