i really want to learn how to read and speak japanese. whats the most effective way? i already watch anime
>>85329443there are tons of options, how are we supposed to know which of them would work best for you? literally experiment until you find something that works best for you.
>>85329458is there a commonly recommended learning guide that someone has put together? otherwise my next steps would be to draw hirigana and katakana until i can recognize them by heart. then i was going to try and find manga in japanese and sound out the words and look up things i dont know, basically anything other than desu or sou or ne
Go to /jp/Learn hiragana and katakana then do kanji on anki everyday.But I'll be clear, if you're doing this to fuck Japanese women your efforts are better spent losing body fat. The kind of Japanese women who fuck foreigners do not really care if you can speak Japanese, but they do care if you have a body fat percentage higher than single digit.
>>85329443I've memorized how to read and write Hiragana and Katakana, but I haven't actually learned what the words mean, I can just read the sounds. I used and app on my iphonene called Luli Languages. It's also on google play.https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lulilanguages.j5a&pli=1
>>85329630its purely academic. i dont race mix
>>85329642Then why not pick an actual academic language? The only usage for Japanese in the modern day is reading young adult fiction and porn.
>>85329634this looks like it will be good thanks
>>85329443Probably looking up a community college course on Japanese. Self teaching can help you learn the basics but if you actually want to learn to speak and hold a conversation your going to need an actual course because the daily word bullshit online only goes so far and doesn't have you practice properly speaking Japanese
You can learn hiragana and katakana today via rote memorizationafter that start using spaced repetition apps like anki to learn the most common words (10-20 a day is good if you can manage)your main work is listening hours of japanese every day (without subtitles)Do grammar once a week but don't stress out over itVery generic advice but that's probably one of the more effective ways to do it
>>85329443everything japanese people say to foreigners is a lie. the have words in japanese for their inner feelings and their outward persona which they see as two unrelated things. getting a true opinion or feeling out of a jap is like pulling teeth from a crocodile. it has been said that the japanese are polite but not nice and it's absolutely true. they're fake. the chinese are nice but not polite, they're the opposite of japanese. unless you have some fetish where you want every single word said to you to be a lie there is no reason to learn their language. the best east asian languages to learn are mandarin/cantonese, vietnamese, thai/siamese, and cambodian. those are the most fun, friendly, and interesting asian countries. i've never been to the philippines or korea so i can't say but i've heard they're both really nice people, too. half of everything weebs like about japan is ripped straight from china like ramen, kimonos, etc. so just go to china and spare yourself all the fake egotistical japanese bullshit. japan is a corporate work colony run by children in adult bodies. it fucking sucks and the fact anime came from there doesn't change that. i can't for the life of me understand how anyone could visit that country and still think highly of it.
>>85329763peace and quiet > noisy chimps
>>85329763>it has been said that the japanese are polite but not nice and it's absolutely true. they're fake. the chinese are nice but not polite,It is actually noticeable by the way, japs will say many polite words but then completely stonewall your actual request. They profoundly do not care and are not prepared to accomodate anyone in anything. I havent seen such bad service anywhere else, not even in scandinavia. The rudeness is fine if I can get real help.
>>85330761You just have a third world mentality where you want all your whims to be satisfied by disposable serfs because your entitlement is sacred and above everything and everyone else.
>>85329443anki and visual novels with voice acting
