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>>85330665>two wolves and a sheepIn a democracy is there a to not vote against your best interests?
>>85330665I just disagree with the leftist/liberal argument that voting for the pro regulations, tax and spend, socially left wing party is "voting in my interests". I also care more about moral values than material interests, I don't think Jesus would want me to vote for someone just because they theoretically would give me more government money, I think Jesus would want me to vote righteously
>>85330680Kinda crazy how Trump is the only president to fall for this since Israel was created
>>85330680>WELL BOTH CHOICES WERE BAD!!I Wonder if the us soldiers and these guys flinging themselves into the ocean would disagree with you ah well they got what they voted for i guess
>>85330706??????? 7 different US presidents have waged war for Israel. This isn't even close to the worst one either.
>>85330701I don't think Jesus would want you to vote because nation states are fundamentally in conflict with the sermon on the mount. You cannot claim to be Christian and at the same time support a military and police. You're supposed to turn the other cheek.
>>85330701>heaven is a classless, moneyless, sustainable society>you want that on earth? you fucking socialist!lol
>>85330724He only supports the parts of Christianity that lets him hate the rest is useless to him
>>85330718Trump is the only president who ever gone to war with Iran for Israel. They have tried to trick every president before him into this, but he is the only one to fall for it
>>85330724That's the lazy liberal imagining of Jesus as some sort of left wing hippie.One of the ten commandments is "don't murder". Abortion is ending an innocent life, it is murder. Abortion is a modern Holocaust that has killed more people than anything else. It is morally imperative to end abortion. And having a military and police isn't anti Christian. One can use the military and police for good and bad things. Jesus didn't call for anarchy, he called for rendering to Caesar. And society needs law and order for people to thrive and be safe
>>85330665I voted for the party that won't bully nuns into killing people, and I'm perfectly content with that.https://www.wsj.com/opinion/free-expression/why-the-left-wont-leave-nuns-alone-c244ee0f?st=HHumF4
>>85330748What about >Thou shall not commit adultery Trump and his blindly loyal followers dont seem to care about that one
>>85330701>We NEED to cut taxes for the ultra rich and deregulate big business, and makes billionaires richer, JESUS WANTS US TO!Meanwhile Jesus:>Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
>>85330665The navy has the highest amount of non white personnel
>>85330718Just wait till Trump's demented, retarded ass is sweet talked (again) into launching a full scale invasion after he steals the midterms. There's no "both sides"-ing your way out of this, you closeted magat. And don't give me that uniparty bullshit either. Just wait.
>>8533077160% are white
>>85330760I voted for Trump because of the policy he does (and by appointing judges who overturned Roe v Wade, he absolutely delivered on that front). I don't care about politicians' personal lives nearly as much as policy. I think Trump shouldn't have done adultery and will quite possibly go to hell for his sins. But that doesn't make him the worse option on the policy front, which is what matters. And it's not like Republicans are more tolerant of adultery when it comes to the policy front. The slowly growing discourse calling for ending no fault divorce (which would lead to adultery facing more consequences) are pretty much solely coming from republicans and the right wing. Trump is not my god, just some guy we elected as president
>>85330724>>85330738>I've never read your religious book but here's how your religion tells you how to vote
>>85330793>I care what some of the Bible says but not the other partsYou are going to hell if you choose to only selectively apply the Bible like this. The Almighty knows youre a coward and the hottest places in Hell are reserved for people like you
>>85330799Yeah because unlike you we don't rely on fish and bad interpretation of your fairy tales to dictate logic
>>85330783..highest population have to mean majority brown..
>>85330809>if you choose to only selectively apply the Bible like this>the Bible doesn't say anything about forgiveness of sins, that isn't a core tenet or anythingNTA but you're a retard and probably a zoomer (redundant).
>>85330809You can't tell religious people this they objectively think they are guaranteed a spot for even believing nothing you can say to them will scare them into thinking for one second they are going to hell and if all else fails they can just ask for forgiveness easy
>>85330799Nta but the more i read the bible the more i lost faith in the concept of god and religion. The more you read the less it makes sense. Most christians (especially evangelicals) have a shit ton of bibles collecting dust somewhere. Nice 2017 reddit meme btw.
>>85330799What did Yahweh mean by this?
>>85330748Yes abortion is a modern Holocaust. You as a Christian should not abort anyone.Non-resistance to evil is a core tenant of Jesus' teaching. This is It's not a hippie "just do whatever, man" philosophy. People who lack righteousness go to hell. You're supposed to teach by example, not teach through force."Render to Caesar what is Caesar's" isn't about the necessity of nation states. Money, taxes, and material goods shouldn't be a concern for Christians as a Christian life is a life of poverty. Caesar minted the money, it's his money to do as he wants. A Christian would have his coffers waiting for him in Heaven.
>>85330823*doesntGame over
>>85330823Well how many this is the second time you haven't given a number Are you a midwit?
>>85330767I'm not inherently opposed to having some degree of social welfare and aid to the truly poor, or whatever (though if it is to be done, I want it done with the least amount of government intervention needed to actually accomplish the goal, and be done for the purpose of helping the poor rather than punishing the rich as some left wing rhetoric will focus on, with talk about "reducing inequality" rather than "fighting poverty"). But abortion is just a far larger moral problem. "Innocent young people being mass murdered by the millions" is far worse than "poverty existing". If democrats leaned towards socal conservatism and traditionalism, and especially pro life stances, I'd be open to considering voting for them depending on the specifics of the candidates both sides were offering. I'm not married to the Republican party. I just vote for them because they have very much delivered on the issue I consider most important (and there's nothing you can do to convince me to not consider that issue most important)
>>85330829https://youtu.be/-OYOqrLKZbQ
>>85330824No, but having a half assed approach to it like that anon is directly antithetical to what it means to be a Christian and only makes it easier to slander the religionRetards like him are supposed to sit in the back and shut the fuck up while people who actually grew up on this shit are the real authorities on it. If you dont like it, fucking leave
>>8533083753.4 percent racial or ethnic minority, thats including Mexicans
>>85330829Why the fuck does God need baby foreskin What the fuck is wrong with religion
>>85330809>you choose to only selectively apply the Bible like this.This isn't "selectively applying the Bible" though. I don't know why you think I should apply purity tests for the candidate's personal lives rather than focusing on the issues, it's not like the left does that. Voting for Trump isn't the same as condoning his personal misdeeds or something and it's not like he's enacted policy to make his sins easier to do or less likely to be punished. This sort of thing, trying to argue that religious conservatives are hypocrites or inconsistent for voting R, always comes off as an insincere and desperate attempt of people who don't hold religious conservative values in the first place to try and trick religious conservatives into not voting for the option that clearly stands more with them on policy.
>>85330724You don't even know what "turn the other cheek" means.
>>85330881Trump openly flaunts how unfaithful he is to his wives and Christians still hail him as the second comingYou people are beyond hopeless and I know based on what I raised to believe growing up that all of you will burn for your sacrelige
>>85330849Can't respond so he links a 20 minute youtube videoHoly cope>>85330878Yahweh demands a tribute of flesh.
>>85330701>I vote for big Christian value because I'm honorable!>votes for a sleazy casino owning billionaire on his third wife>votes for the man mentioned in the Epstein files 10x more than anyone else>votes for a man who sells Bibles with his name on them for $64.99How does a non-deranged non-cultist look at that fat piece of shit and see a pious Christian man who upholds brotherhood, compassion, forgiveness, integrity, and humility?
>>85330909I don't hail Trump as the second coming. I just voted for him as a flawed person (as are we all) who did a lot of good by nominating judges who overturned Roe v WadeWhat should I have done instead? Voted for the openly pro abortion Hillary, Joe, and Kamala? Or just not voted at all (and tacitly accepted the victory of the openly pro abortionist candidates rarher than doing what I could do to defeat them?)
>>85330918>All powerful being needs proof of your loyaltySounds like a demon No wonder Jews always win
>>85330926>I just overlook everything immoral he does while holding the other side to unimaginably higher standardIm looking forward to the day he drafts you. Cant wait to see you defending $5 gas when the midterms are happening.
>>85330924So, vote for the openly pro abortion side instead? And that would be more in line with the values of a Christian who thinks murder is bad?
>>85330924American Christians aren't Christians because they are good people they are Christians because it allows them to hate the people they want
>>85330918It's not my job to educate you :^)
>>85330939Would you be fine killing millions of innocent fetuses if it meant getting gas down to $0.50 a gallon?Would you be fine killing every transgender person if it meant getting gas down to $0.50 a gallon and also establishing universal healthcare and ending poverty for the other 99% of people?
>>85330939If you voted for Joe Biden you voted for an accused rapist, bro.Also I see you conveniently haven't addressed >>85330752
>>85330959You guys don't care about abortion because you care about kids stop pedaling that lieYou care about abortion because you hate women
>>85330974You guys don't care about "trans rights" because you care about trans people stop pedaling that lieYou care about trans rights because you hate women
>>85330959I dont care about abortion because Im not a Bible thumping moron like you. Its not my body, I dont care. Also>thinks gas has only gone up 50 centsAre you simply incapable making a single good faith argument? Clinging to Jesus does not make your argument right because you think its moral. Do you even pay your tithe?
>>85330991While yes I do hate women I think people should be able to be who they want
>>85331002The average liberal goes beyond that into thinking that people should be unhireable and even have their kids taken away if they don't validate the gender feelings of a 12-year-old.
>>85330940>vote for the openly pro abortion side instead?Yes.Your desert genie never mentions abortion in his important magic book aside from one time where he instructs you on how to perform one with magic dust. Numbers 5:11-31You'd think the creator of the universe would have a lot of rules about abortion if it bothered him so much. Nope, just tells you how to perform one with a magic spell. Gotta love Yahweh.
>>85331022Where has this happened
>>85330974I care about abortion because murder is bad, simple as that. It's weird to act like telling women they can't murder means "hating women" tho>>85331000>Its not my body, I dont care.Do you apply that to other cases of murder?>thinks gas has only gone up 50 centsThat's not what I said. I'm proposing a hypothetical where gas only costs half a dollar, which would be extremely cheap compared to what we've had under either party, but people the left sees as victims get murdered as part of the deal. If "cheaper gas, but fetuses (people the right see as victims) are murdered" is acceptable, why not the same for "MUCH cheaper gas, but people the left see as victims are murdered" not acceptable?>Do you even pay your tithe?10 percent of my income every year I've earned money goes to my church. Other than my first year working in high school when I wasn't particularly religious, but I later went back and additionally "paid it back", and confessed for that sin of past greed.
>>85331039Ten commandments say don't kill, and abortion is killing. Your argument is nonsense.
>>85331050Doesn't god destroy entire cities
>>85331022>The average liberalYeah, all blue voters want everyone's rights taken away for crazy gender perverts who want to cut dicks off. That's all we talk about all the time. At thanksgiving it's just "We should put people in jail for not validating fat bald men in wigs and lipstick. Three cheers for the chicks with dicks! Hip hip! Hooray!"Tell me you listen to insane podcasts and never interact with real people without telling me you listen to insane podcasts and never interact with real people.
>>85331046Murder typically involves people and not fetuses. The law doesnt count it as murder and never will no matter how much you cling to a book youve never actually read. I have no interest in letting the government control our lives at the level you are clamoring forPersonally, I dont think youvd ever set foot in a house of God. You are not godly whatsoever and your pastor would tell you to leave 4chan if he knew you were on here.
>>85331050>Ten commandments say don't killSo?Says you can't covet women, lie, or steal either. Also nobody can work on Sunday (actually Saturday, but it got mixed up in the 4th century) but I can go wherever I want and buy shit on Sunday.If the 10 commandments were your basis for voting, you'd never vote for anyone ever because they can't live up to them. Especially not Trump. "You shall not bear false witness." During his first presidency he lied 35,000 times. That's like an average of 60 lies a day.>Your argument is nonsense.Read your Tanakh, goyim. You have that book for a reason and it's not to stare at the cover.
>>85330733There are different types of socialism thoughbeit. Heaven would look like a gift economy where people give without expectation of return, that's not the same as redistributing wealth or a command economy.
>>85331055So? The ten commandments apply to people, not god>>85331068Fetuses are human life too>>85331099>you'd never vote for anyone ever because they can't live up to them.Awfully convenient for the folks who don't care about the ten commandments, lol.
>>85330733It's not classless though, there's a whole hierarchy of angels. And only moneyless in the sense scarcity doesn't exist so that no economic system is needed at all
>>85331115They literally arent. A fetus cannot feel pain or form memories. You are not ending a life because there is no conscience to it
>>85331115>invokes the ancient laws of Moses in 2026>"awfully convenient for you..."Fuck the fuck off. Don't bring them up if you aren't going to actually defend them.Have you told any lies lately? I think you might owe Moses some extra foreskin. Chop to it!
>>85331062None of that matters, what matters is what you vote for. You vote for people that want to force nuns to kill people, and put rapist men in prison cells with women, and take parental custody away from parents for not being liberals, and protect criminals from being deported.>>85331041I love the gen-z inability to do your own basic research.https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/20/religious-parents-lose-custody-transgender-teen/https://wpde.com/news/nation-world/framed-as-a-bigot-ny-father-loses-custody-of-son-after-questioning-gender-transition-software-engineer-dennis-hannon-32-told-the-national-desk-tnd-monday-the-erie-county-supreme-court-upstate-new-york-transgender-lgbtq-rights-transhttps://cbs6albany.com/news/nation-world/mother-who-questioned-12-year-old-daughters-gender-transition-loses-custody-battlehttps://wpde.com/news/nation-world/montana-14-year-old-moved-to-canada-after-gender-identity-custody-dispute-parents-say-krista-and-todd-kolstad-glasgow-helena-montana-gov-greg-gianforte-transgender-lgbtq-rights-trans-child-juvenile-laws-republicanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNbhyJYt4SI
>>85331136So by this logic, jellyfish are never alive and you cannot kill them.
>>85331190>Custody battles and religious nutjoh parentsCompelling
>>85331205Jellyfish arent even people. Its very obvious you dont actually care about anything you claim to and only cling to this argument cuz you think it makes you the Righteous Moral Authority Get off 4chan if you wanna larp like this
>>85331190>you want (crazy shit I never heard of)Sure I do, loony.You know what. Even that stupid shit you described is superior to a criminal pants-shitting child rapist who sends goon squads into cities to murder innocent citizens. Oh and billions in tariffs that we have to pay back out of our taxes.If Kamala runs again I'd still vote for her over any evil retard the republicans nominate. Your kooky emotionally charged nonsense is nothing to me compared to truth, justice, and a nation that works.
>>85331250Are you implying Kamala "Prison Slavery" Harris isn't evil?
>>85331223>disproves your definition of life>"raaaaahh i'm gonna call you names to deflect because i have no counter-argument"
>>85331250>who sends goon squads into cities to murder innocent citizens.>anon actually fell for dehumanizing 30,000 ICE agents because of like three people being mean>anon got emotionally manipulated into being against basic border enforcementYou goon.>muh tariff moneyGood to know you're willing to sell your ability to rationally deduce issues objectively. Let's be honest, you'd be fine with tariffs if Biden/Harris did it. We both know that.>emotionally chargedProjection, your posts are more emotionally charged than anyone else ITT.
>>85331260I like when conservatives start a lie they just run with it
>>85331309This isn't a refutation nor an argument. Nobody ever liked Harris. That being said, things were always going to get worse in the US. It's pure speculation but I have zero doubt the Clinton administration would have declared an open war on Assad's Syria. The best case scenario for the US would probably have been Orange Man winning 2016 and 2020, giving the Blue Team enough time to actually mount a counter-offensive against right wing populism and realise that they were losing the Hispanic voter base. Instead, the Floyd/COVID era happening primarily under Biden resulted in them doubling down on the Cringe.I'm not an Amerikan and I don't vote, and Trump being president again has been good for my country, but I can see why Yanks wouldn't like it.
>>85331328>but I have zero doubt the Clinton administration would have declared an open war on Assad's Syria. That's why we gotta vote for trump for no new wars
>>85331434In 2016, Clinton had an established record of loving war and slaughter and death, Orange Man didn't. It was reasonable to vote for Orange Man. The only reason Orange Man won in 2024 was because of how unbearable the Biden era was regarding "woke", et cetera. The average person doesn't actually care about politics and just wants to be distracted by flashing colours on a screen, but all entertainment and distractions became un-fucking-bearable. People voted away their bread because the circuses became cringe.>Erm it's retarded to vote for someone just because you find the other option annoying!Yeah, it is, but that's how people function.
>>85331476I fell for this shit when I voted for that orange retard onceYou won't convince me of it this time
>>85331513You "fell for" entry level political analysis?
>>85330665This is still better than infinity browns being imported. I'll vote for Dick fucking Cheney before I vote for a pro-immigrant candidate.
>>85330744What is wrong with going to war with Iran?It's not the most expensive war in the last 70 years, nor is it the deadliest. It seems to be an air campaign like the 2025 Iran war
>>85330760When has Trump committed adultery since becoming President?
>>85331562The issue is that it's entirely pointless, unless your sole desire is hurting people. Just like the Russo-Ukrainian war, it serves no purpose besides creating bodies for their own sake.
>>85331328If nobody liked Harris why was she the nominee for the democrats? Why did half the voterbase choose her as their figurehead?
>>85331638half of the voter base that represents half of the population is a quarter
>>85330665Yes, I am having fun! She voted for this!
>>85330707if you voluntarily joined the us military at any point in the last 100 years you deserve worse than walking the plank off an aircraft carrier
>>85330680Yes you have to voot for whatever the OP wants even if it fucks you over too, because you just do ok
>>85331039>Numbers 5:11-31Well, don't mind if I do. Let's see what it says (1/2)11 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,12 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, If any man's wife go aside, and commit a trespass against him,13 And a man lie with her carnally, and it be hid from the eyes of her husband, and be kept close, and she be defiled, and there be no witness against her, neither she be taken with the manner;14 And the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be defiled: or if the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be not defiled:15 Then shall the man bring his wife unto the priest, and he shall bring her offering for her, the tenth part of an ephah of barley meal; he shall pour no oil upon it, nor put frankincense thereon; for it is an offering of jealousy, an offering of memorial, bringing iniquity to remembrance.16 And the priest shall bring her near, and set her before the Lord:17 And the priest shall take holy water in an earthen vessel; and of the dust that is in the floor of the tabernacle the priest shall take, and put it into the water:18 And the priest shall set the woman before the Lord, and uncover the woman's head, and put the offering of memorial in her hands, which is the jealousy offering: and the priest shall have in his hand the bitter water that causeth the curse:19 And the priest shall charge her by an oath, and say unto the woman, If no man have lain with thee, and if thou hast not gone aside to uncleanness with another instead of thy husband, be thou free from this bitter water that causeth the curse:20 But if thou hast gone aside to another instead of thy husband, and if thou be defiled, and some man have lain with thee beside thine husband:
>>8533184321 Then the priest shall charge the woman with an oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman, The Lord make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the Lord doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell;22 And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen.23 And the priest shall write these curses in a book, and he shall blot them out with the bitter water:24 And he shall cause the woman to drink the bitter water that causeth the curse: and the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter.25 Then the priest shall take the jealousy offering out of the woman's hand, and shall wave the offering before the Lord, and offer it upon the altar:26 And the priest shall take an handful of the offering, even the memorial thereof, and burn it upon the altar, and afterward shall cause the woman to drink the water.27 And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people.28 And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.29 This is the law of jealousies, when a wife goeth aside to another instead of her husband, and is defiled;30 Or when the spirit of jealousy cometh upon him, and he be jealous over his wife, and shall set the woman before the Lord, and the priest shall execute upon her all this law.31 Then shall the man be guiltless from iniquity, and this woman shall bear her iniquity.Nice magic spell but I do not see an abortion, this is just cuck magic, to make your wife get cursed for cheating on you. Not a word about pregnancy except that she'll be okay if she didn't cheat on you.
>>85330665A step better than the midrats posts or lego AI videos ig
as long as trump is in office the stock market just goes straight up, and thats literally all i care about
>>85330665Trump is president because we dedicated fifty fucking years of international trade policy to carpet bombing rural and industrial America and sticking our fingers in your ears and going "La la la!" whenever they cried out for mercy. THAT is voting against our interests, and I hope they get their fifty years' worth of payback and then some in the time he has left.
Why are there so many leftists on 4chan all of the sudden?
>>85331984anti semetic anime website doesn't want to support israelinconceivable
>>85332050Amazing the cognitive dissonance of the bacha bazi genital cutters pointing at the diddy island genital cutters pointing at the synagogue sliced baby dick sucking genital cutters Everyone in this triangle is going to hell assuredly if there is a just god
>>85333061uh oh rabbi melty
>>85331983>Vote for Regan >Let's vote for reagan 2 that will show themUtterly retarded
>>85333099NAFTA was Clinton and openening up to China was Nixon, you subsapient parrot. The betrayal of the blue-collar middle class has been bipartisan, which is why they were willing to overlook nearly your level of child-fucking dementard in order to elect an outsider to burn it all down.
>>85333214(And while unlimited scabs and replacements from the South for working-class Americans has been a largely Democrat undertaking, protecting white-coller urbanites from a fair and proportionate uncapping of H1Bs and removal of the hire-Americans-first requirement (since 'no human is illegal,' right?) has been bipartisan and unchallenged until now.)
This is the very class war you dirty commies have been gooning yourselves unconscious fantasizing over for decades, but when 'social justice' comes calling for you, suddenly it's racist or something.
