went to a wellfare meeting, you know the type they force you to have an activity and go and do daily tasks if you are getting welllfare in europeboth my wellfare social worker and the girl at the jobless place are literally younger than me now, both are younger than me and have decent jobsmeanwhile I am a white guy pushing 40my social worker contact is like late early 30s at best, the job center girl is like 20 or somethinggetting fucking tired man of this demoralization repeating my life story that is useless for ever government contact every time
Women receive preferential treatment in employment and hiring. If you were a woman you'd be making like $60k a year to just sip starbucks and fill office chairs with farts.
>>85358082I know, add migrants to that for bonus points toobut genuinely things are fucking bad
>>85358016>and have decent jobsThe people who work for those unemployment places are leaches off the unemployed.You are at least only a leach off society, they are probably the most useless people who have ever lived.
>>85358100well their salary is 4x my "salary", in reality more since I don't get any more benefits or payiung for pensions or the likesso maybe 6xI can't live on this level of pay manand the amount of paper work you have to show and report in every month to every other agency is enormous and retarded tooits only 1 place its like several gov places that want the same paper work reported every monthits so tiringits worse than working a full time jobyou are literally not human and cant have any expenses or buy anything eitherim tired of this shit man
Just turn gay for a rich man
>>85358225what country ?I'm in France and we have less paperwork, but you have to keep evidence that you look for work and get rejected, as you can be controlled without notice, for the last 6 months.The job center clown girls, well, they either harrass you or forget you.I've considered this job but like Anon said >>85358100 , I think they're leeches, and furthermore, they're paid to bully the innocent, and lick the idle rich.> pic : "Here is your new job center counselor"> Ministry of Labour (parody)
A friend of mine who was unemployed, was a victim of suicide. I didn't ask AI if mass suicide was a solution to mass unemployment (question would be too charged). I just asked if suicide of out of work people lowered unemployment statistics.Reply,> No. A jobless person's suicide has no direct impact on suicide rates. Indeed, unemployment statistics measure the number of out of work people who actively search for a job. When a jobless person commits suicide, he doesn't make the problem of unemployment disappear as such, because it doesn't lower the number of people looking for a job.
>>85358324I got hemorrhoids my asshole can't take any more pain>>85358367The Nordics my fellow baguetteDon't have to keep for 6 months but I have to report every month both to my job less agency and to wellfare If you haven't applied for wellfare before you need to have applied for jobs three months prior or you will just get rejected instantly >>85358438Being controlled by government non stop and not being able to spend money how you want and whatever is beyond cuckeningGoing around jobless is even more cuckeningThe older your get you actually start feeling worthless, not because of others judgement just because how assraped you are by these instances and tired of it Meanehile everyone functioning got their life in order like 20 years ago
>be me>be unemployed>go job centre>make me turn up to useless courses, reject every time>finally give in and put me on a course where there are 17 government contracts for 20 people>bet>get one of the jobs, 12 month contract>pass probation after 6, they make me permanent>get 3 pay rises due to people pushing for pay increases>do literally nothing all day, wfh 2-3 days a week, get left lone in the officeI got super lucky but maybe they have similar courses for you, most are crap courses but this one offered clear comfy government jobs. I'm technically working right now but Im going to put my laundry away then lift weights.
>>85358016>you know the typeno, we actually don't.this is NOT common in europe at all. It's some scuckdinavian nigger shit, not something widespread in europe generally.
>>85358564you have godly luck anon you have to remember that try to keep your income high as much as possible holy fuck
>>85358545>The NordicsAh. Funny how only we get the bad rep for excessive paperwork and bureaucracy.Well, I do have to report every month. But it's rather quick. I just tick the boxes : no activity this month. No changes in my personal situation. Not in training.But at the end, there's a counter-nudge that infuriates me : after clicking 10 boxes of "no" on two web pages, in the end of second page, if you read the sentence **slowly**, you understand that if you don't say "yes", you will lose your status of uneployed, actively looking. I wonder how many people get tricked. The question is "are you still actively looking for a job, and do you wish to remain listed as an unemployed person?" A person who would really like to find work but has lost hope for a month or more can unconsciously click "no", just because they clicked so many "no" before, knowing it was the correct answer.This last question doesn't stand out, they don't say, "now that the interrogation about your job search is over, let us finish with an important, if rhetorical question".BUT to help our brown friends not fall in these traps, there are tons of job of "digital inclusion" where you can do this kind of paperwork for people who don't speak french very well.
>>85358588I know I still cant believe it, the worst part is I didn't realise how lazy id become with a full time job, never done full time before but I can barely bring myself to ever do a full shift, we have thing thing called flexi time where we can build up additional time doing over time so I do ''overtime'' at home then use it to leave the office early as we can do in anywhere from 6am to 10am as core office hours are 10 to 2 so I just up and leave around 14:00 to 14:30 and ive been doing this for well over a year and never been called out but the paranoia is setting in. With money ive been saving and got my money in a cash isa with a 12 month interest rate boost so im not doing too bad, if I get made unemployed I could fund myself for over a year as I dont really buy anything apart from food which I cook myself.
>>85358611try to put minimal amounts of funds in investment if you can, if you have a high success rate up the input money, absolutely tank it otherwise you don't want to fuck it up, important to try minimal because you can see how it'll perform long term with minimal risk, also try different things to invest in.i mean investing generally too, things that give you better chance of saving/increasing your money.i wish i was like you i would be so terminally grateful.
>>85358632I was looking into index funds as apparently those are low volatility, I dont like the idea of putting in a grand or something and it disappearing. I once tested penny stocks and that plummeted but I only put a tiny amount in to test it so id have to go with the boring but safe investments. Yeah I need to get my shit together and to not lose this job.
>>85358545>The older your get you actually start feeling worthless, not because of others judgement just because how assraped you are by these instances and tired of itTaking classes to learn a foreign languages helps me a bit with my self esteem. I met a foreign University professor who invited me to listen to a gregorian choir, with a friend of his.Then we went to dinner. (I'm older than you, btw). They both had children, the other guy worked in finance, linked to left politics. Oh, and there was a woman working (high up) in international charity.I didn't have enough money, so I didn't take a dessert. I was the only one, and I was ill at ease, I felt both ridiculous, and ill at ease because I could make them feel guilty, it was an awful situation, it felt so long.Also, the finance guy invited me to a private whatsapp where you can go to dinner with foreign women (and men) from that country. I said yes because I was drunk (I had heard of it and had been dreaming for an invitation in years). The day after, I wrote to him and declined, providing the real reason (I never lied to them about being out of work for quite some time).It was the first time (and only time) that this guy invited me. I was very proud to have said yes, despite my shameful situation. But afterwards, I disappeared completely. No DM to say thanks, no return invitation... But then (what you said reminded me of this), maybe 2 months later, I thought about the internalization of shame and all that. Maybe I cried a little. Then I wrote to this friendly foreign professor, and said thanks for the concert and dinner.
>>85358585Are you in eastern Europe ? Where OUR jobs were massively outsourced ?For western Europe, on the contrary I found that the jobless control experience is strangely similar, if not identical. At least between France and England. Apparently, they get the "reforms" there first, we get them afterwards. For example, France used to have a National Agency for Employment. In England, it was, or something became the "job center". So in France, ANPE was renamed "pole-emploi", an almost literal translation. When I found the history of all this, I was shocked. Because our mass medias keep saying France is an exception : too many lazy people leeching off welfare. They always hide that the problem is general in western europe. It's not an individual problem, unemployment is a social problem. Or rather, a deliberate decision to kill Labor Laws with outsourcing and illegal immigration.
>>85358784>OUR jobsImagine thinking that. Hilarious.I am in germany though. And if you think your job was outsourced in eastern europe, you're even crazier than the average german (which is in itself a performance).You also didn't address my point. Such level of government micromanagement really isn't common in Europe at all. It doesn't happen in germany, holland, italy, spain or all of east europe. That was my point.Europe as a whole (east and west) is simply not competitive. And it won't become competitive anytime soon as long as your mentality continues to be the dominant one.
>>85358845Less paperwork in Germany for the unemployed. Interesting. That's probably because unemployment in Germany has been lower than in other western european countries for some time. Germany's economy was on par with France in the 1980's. But since the end of WW2, Germany is occupied by the USA. While in France, De Gaulle told them to go home, in 1966. That's why Germany is the preferred child. The way of De Gaulle worked for some time, like in the nuclear sector: instead of being a vassal, being a competitor to the United States. But the USA were to powerful, bullying everyone with sheer force, lawfare, warfare, etc. The United States of SanctionsIn all of this, occupied Germany has been striving. Of course, the mass importation of Poland and other eastern european workers helped a lot too. The Ruhr has become the european hub of european industry. I know a few (real french) people who have moved there to find work, and learnt german. But the good relationship with the USA has been central, since 1918 (yes, Nazi times included, but that's another topic)But since Nordstream 2 was victim of a terror attack by the Americans (oops, I meant the Ukrainians), it's funny to see Germany starting to grow up a little, forced to understand how the world works : no, you can't be both friends with the Americans and the Russians. You have to chooseEither you return to being a US colony. Or you decide to go your own way, but then prepare yourself to get acquainted with the micro management of a mass of unemployed people.I haven't followed things closely, but a couple years ago, Germany's economy was in the gutter, with dozens of big companies outsourcing their production to the USA, or wherever gas is cheaperThe mass unemployment problem won't be solved if cynics like you keep claiming that it's because the miner Joe Smith or the factory worker Paul Meunier are not competitive enough. The problem is macro, not micro. Stop looking for scapegoats. You talk like a TV.
>>85358958>Stop looking for scapegoats>says that while scapegoating the eastern europeans, the americans and the immigrants for his own inadequacyanon, you are insane. your whole comment is retarded schizobabble.
>>85358016You should start advocating for the annihilation of the illegitimate state of Israel
>>85358958>with dozens of big companies outsourcing their production to the USAOr more truthfully : reshoring their production, from Germany to the USA.Reshoring. That's what evil Trump is doing. That's why the American haters on the dole are voting for that orange, narcissistic madman.
>>85358979Hah, Israel is based, keeps the muslim population down