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Why can't people allow me to be myself?

>>85400618
Shouldn't you be breaking the mould and not letting other people stop you from being you?

>>85400648
What do you mean anonymous?

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https://discord.com/invite/k2sk93aMFK
:3 Need a comfy typology server, anon? :3
Come hang out with us! We've got the most wonderfully unhinged mix on the internet: IQ and typology nerds, chuds, egirls, femcels, and incels.
(UwU) The vibes are immaculate and the rules are barely there. Everyone is welcome, so come say hi and find your MBTI match!

>>85400699
Well I mean it shouldn't matter to you if people won't "Allow" you to do what you want. You're an ESTP, you should just be able to do it anyway.

bumpy ...--555

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Me when I'm ESTP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emGri7i8Y2Y

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>your type
>what is a limitation of your body
>what tools do you use to augment

>INFP
My brain is dumb, so I use gun to augment

>>85400595
>the 22nd of August is basically September anyway
It has to be a number divisible by 9, because September is the ninth month. The closest number to the end date of the month that is also divisible by the number of the upcoming month, is the formula. So, you have this thread up until the 27th, or else you're a lair.

>>85401575
Yeah? Well I'm going to sleep right now! I can't wait to be proven an unreliable peice of garbargio once and for all!

Not even questions in the OP. Without questions you'll lose certain reggies who show up eagerly to answer.

https://youtube.com/watch/qDMOXNBuuWw

>>85401429
>>your type
ESFP-T
>>what is a limitation of your body
Reaching high shelves.
>>what tools do you use to augment
My ESFJ.

>>85401712
>Without questions you'll lose certain reggies who show up eagerly to answer.
Yea, but some of us don't have much to contribute to the thread topic. : (

>>85402252
>some of us don't have much to contribute
Your presence is always a positive addition to any situation. You are a gift.

>>85358026
Didn't you sleep with your siblings or parents when you were little? Anyway, in the same room is different than in the same bed.

>>85402886
once while traveling I slept in the same bed as my two male cousins as a guy. It was some of the best sleep I've ever gotten. I think I sleep better if there's someone next to me.

>>85401712
It's supposed to be like that to represent my feelings

https://youtu.be/q6pN7XX0xt4
You may rest here too if you like.

>>85400707
>chuds, egirls, femcels, and incels.
Are you really advertising a discord server by telling us the userbase is basically H-bomb tier of radioactive?

>>85402399
>You are a gift.
You are a sweetie; thank you.

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>>85404710
Eek, no H-bombs here, I promise! Just wholesome vibes, nice people, and fun typology chats. It is a super cute place to hang out you should drop in and check it out! Soft hugs, not fallout :3

>>85402399
She is a good person. Like someone somehow never corrupted by life and its people.

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[on topic typology post]

>>85406189
Don't scare me like that!

>>85406473
Don't be afraid, on topic posts aren't real.

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>>85406473
My Ni is telling me that your function stack is shadow gripped by looping Fe Fi Fo Fum undifferentiated archetypal possession.

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>>85404291
>Gets sent on a darkest dungeon hole by this video
>Ends up in this freaking situation again 5 hours later after like 5 years since last time
Hooh boy, truly ... eldritch!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC78sTjKQxE

End up in another rabbit hole trying to find a better source for the audio. Got exited when I saw a personality test, but unfortunately it's just AI slop. Framed as a choose your own adventure but the answers don't actually change the next questions. Boo! Oh well

>Your passion potential...
>You're good at turning on the charm. The opposite sex will think you're ultra sexy and loads of people will lust after you.
*blushes* Y'know, life really is a text adventure!

>>85406481
Oh, thank goodness!

>>85406600
My archetypical possession feels very differentiated,.and miserable

Why are trees so expensive? It's not like they're printed by the federal government. People always say "it's not like x grows on trees", but it's not like fruit is inexpensive, so either that saying is retarded or fruit prices are: Either way, there's been an error.

>>85408297
They take a long time to grow and sometimes need quite delicate conditions. Human life is quite cheap nowadays and that includes you.

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The good thing about having short hair I suppose, is that I can get away with going a lot longer without having a shower.

Anyway I still feel the ghosts of all the animals I've ever eaten crawling on my back. I might be going back to minimizing my meat intake since those little animals aren't helping me achieve anything great right now. Maybe I need to devise a system of actually being getting a bowl of oats every morning or something as a baseline.

>>85408768
>The good thing about having short hair I suppose, is that I can get away with going a lot longer without having a shower.
How long do you typically go without showers?

>>85408862
Nowadays it's basically just whenever I feel like it's been a while since I last had a shower, but I had recently been in a period where I was going a couple of times a week to avoid my hair looking too greasy. So yeah idk about once or week give or take a few days now. I think maybe I had one between the eclipse and now but I can't remember.

>>85408768
Breakfast is for the birds. All you need is a glass of milk or whatever. Just make sure you get a decent lunch, otherwise you'll feel dead by 3pm. At least that's how it always was for me (i blame the education system).

>>85408930
How often did you take them when you were together with your ex?

>>85408972
Whenever she felt like it I suppose my general rule was that so long as I hadn't had a shower the day before. I was only in her country for a total of about 5 or 6 months over the course of two years and on the road for half of it so it's not like there was much pattern forming to be done.

>>85408960
Getting a decent lunch ain't easy, at least if I don't wanna break the bank. What am I gonna do, food prep? Anyway speaking of, it's bed time for me, and so soon! Tick tock goes the clock.

>>85409086
I have so many more questions now.

>>85409086
>What am I gonna do, food prep?
Yeah. Make a big old fucking VAT of something, and take it to work in a thermos. I don't know what the set up is like over there, but you could probably bring your own electric kettle in, if need be, and that alone opens up a lot of options. If you a big batch of oats, or rice, or anything like that, it's much better to warm up with a little bit of boiling water than a microwave. And if you want to avoid intensive meal prep, you could order a big box of miso paste, and make miso soup without leaving your desk. And i know from eggsperience, you can even poach eggs with it. You don't need a ton of calories, you aren't working construction, mostly just fat and protein. You need vitamins and minerals too, of course, but usually not too much in the moment, it's more about accumulation there. I say that, but don't take it too seriously, everybody's body is different; you'll feel it out as you go.

>>85408297
When the saying was first coined in the 1800s it was more common to pick or grow your own fruit rather than buy it

>>85409387
I bet trees were more common back then too but during colonialism they cut them down.

>>85408862
>>85408768
>>85409491
They stole this exchange to create a separate thread.

People like to talk about the differences between East and West, but it tends to be that talk is all it is. I've been replaying Yo-Kai Watch 2 this past week or so, and have been reminded of how 8 is the magic number of there, which is a real difference, because all of our magic numbers are odd, while they prefer even. There is an exception to this, but it's the same exception. We have 4 elements, and they have 5. Not only do we break the pattern in the same place, but we both attempt to amend the discrepancy, in the west by way of the magical 5th element, and in the east by treating the 5 elements as in a sense accidental to the 4 cycles they facilitate.

>>85410468
Ehhh, no shower threads happen all the time.

Centaur, why are you talking to these losers. You should be saving up all your thoughts in an email to ME.

Maybe, just maybe, someday, I'll have lived long enough to be a twilight sparkle for real!
>Drags self out of bed to be a wagie for another day

>>85411864
I don't know your email. But my thoughts aren't worth a lot more than the dumpster anyway.

These "losers" are cool. And do we really need more content inaccessable to the open web?

>inb4 you need an account to view 4chan threads

>>85411807
>no shower threads happen all the time
No they don't.

They must do surely! There's no way any one of this board showers more than once a week and also isn't proud of it!

My cognitive labor has been stolen too often from these threads without any compensation nor any sort of credit due. For that reason I will be taking an extended leave of absence.

>>85412021
If they introduced accounts eventually, everyone would just leave the site

>>85412881
I mean I wouldn't since I just brought 3 more years of 4chan pass but I can just imagine this actually becoming me blogging to an empty void.

>>85413067
This nigga really pays to shitpost.

>>85413083
And to effortpost! But yeah I gotta pay for a VPN and a pass just to post in these threads. And then some of the nonnies here have the gaul to say I ain't keeping up with their standards. Erm hello, I am the customer, you are the product!

But yeah I mean like filling in captchas makes me want to end myself.

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>>85413112
It is not possible to effort post unless you are anonymous or using only a temporary trip so no one can pretend to be you in a particular thread. Without anonymity no one will judge your words by their merits. You are no better from a tripfag, or even a redditor in a way, where the redditor seeks updoots to get that same sort of higher ranking on the normy social pecking order, you paid for the pass and wave it around.

You should switch off the yotsuba symbol and pretend to be an ordinary anon like everyone else or you are wasting your money on something you could get for free on plebbit or twatter.

>>85413181
Effort isn't measured by the estimations of strangers.

>your type
>how do you get to sleep at night?
>how do you get up in the mornings?

>>85413181
Etiquette? On this dead board, in this current year? But yeah nah I was just flashing my badge to show I was serious. I'd never post identifiably. Me? Never!

But there's lots of things you can say here that you couldn't elsewhere, and it feels less intrusive than a twitter feed. If anything though I was considering becoming a blue sky person.

>eats bread
>Immediately feels bloated
I mean yeah I do think I'm genetically more of an oats person like I said earlier. But man are they inconvenient for the wagie life.

>>85414688
>ISTP
>Lately it's fantasize about being a cartoon horse princess or play game of thrones theory videos to replicate the feeling of falling asleep on call.
>Several alarms on my phone next to my head. Usually if they start at 08:45 I can get out of bed by around 08:57, find some clothes on the floor that don't smell too bad and then head straight to work.

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>>85414727
Look at this.
LOOK AT THIS!
POSTING IDENTIFYABLY???
B&!

I once posted in a way that could be identified by AI keyloggers and got banned doxxed and anally violated right away

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I once tried to post identifiably
but it turns out I'm not who I think I am

>>85414688
>>your type
ESFP-T
>>how do you get to sleep at night?
Quite effortlessly.
>>how do you get up in the mornings?
If I'm getting up when I feel like getting up, it goes quite smoothly. I've a have to get up early for something I don't particularly want to do, there's a short period of grumpiness and lethargy.

>>85415226
The only me is me; are you sure the only you is you?

what test should I take. which one do u recommend

>>85415267
If the only me is you, how can you know the me you are is the me you think you are?
I'm sure the leaf thinks it's the whole tree, so certainly-
I cannot be the only me, or you.

[81] The form in which Christ presented the content of his
unconscious to the world became accepted and was declared
valid for all. Thereafter all individual fantasies became otiose
and worthless, and were persecuted as heretical, as the fate of
the Gnostic movement and of all later heresies testifies. The
prophet Jeremiah is speaking just in this vein when he warns
(ch. 23):
16. Thus saith the Lord of hosts, Hearken not unto the words
of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain:
they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the
mouth of the Lord.
25. I have heard what the prophets said that prophesy lies in
my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed.
26. How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that
prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their
own heart;
27. Which think to cause my people to forget my name by
their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as
their fathers have forgotten my name for Baal.
28. The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and
he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What
is the chaff to the wheat? saith the Lord.

Have you silly dreams, I got the word! And that's like, better! - Jeremiah

>>85416127
I worry about you Centy.

>>85416127
Continue Centard, my stomach is rumbling.

>>85414727
You'd do well on youtube, if you went for it.

>>85416314
Sometimes I think you should. This is all me keeping a straight face and all that. I'm pretty rat creature maxxed right now. But there's a lot of people out there more deserving of your worry. Every street on this planet probably has a neglected grumpy old person on it. I'm an extremely blessed individual on my own terms. I guess my problems are more what do you do after you've already won at life, I've never been very good at capitalizing on a success. Oh well, I think I'm going to sit in bed and space out until I fall asleep now.

>>85416339
but the next bit is so long!

>>85416346
But I already didn't do youtube because I thought it was on the decline in 2012! My sunk costs!

>>85416355
Won at life, Centard? There's a very thorny hat I now demand you find a rabbit from.

>>85416366
Chop chop. Suey arrives.

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>>85416396
Yeah, kissed a person as wonderful as lilac in real life, when I thought a woman would never ever look at me without intense disgust, let alone actually like me enough for that. I can never complain about anything ever again! Really that should fuel me all the way to the grave in about 50 years (touch wood), and it probably will. I just need to fight off any pathetic irrational feelings of red bottomed baboon monkey melancholia in the meantime.

>thorny hat
I don't get it.

>>85416396
>Chop suey
Gah, it's too late to do that justice. Maybe tomorrow I'll post a vocaroo. Maybe

Anyway time for Joong to wall dump over 6000 characters on us for [82]

[82] Similarly, we see in early Christianity how the bishops
zealously strove to stamp out the activity of the individual
unconscious among the monks. The archbishop Athanasius of
Alexandria in his biography of St. Anthony gives us
particularly valuable insights in this respect. By way of
instruction to his monks, he describes the apparitions and
visions, the perils of the soul, which befall those that pray and
fast in solitude. He warns them how cleverly the devil
disguises himself in order to bring saintly men to their
downfall. The devil is, of course, the voice of the anchorite's
own unconscious, in revolt against the forcible suppression of
his nature. I give a number of excerpts from this rather
inaccessible book.

>*ahem*

40 They show very clearly how the unconscious was
systematically suppressed and devalued.
There is a time when we see no man and yet the sound of the
working of the devils is heard by us, and it is like the singing
of a song in a loud voice; and there are times when the words
of the Scriptures are heard by us, just as if a living man were
repeating them, and they are exactly like the words which we
should hear if a man
were reading the Book. And it also happens that they [the
devils] rouse us up to the night prayer, and incite us to stand
up; and they make apparent unto us also the similitudes of
monks and the forms of those who mourn; and they draw nigh
unto us as if they had come from a long way off, and they
begin to utter words like unto these, that they may make lax
the understanding of those who are little of soul:-"It is now
a law unto all creation that we love desolation, but we were
unable, by reason of God, to enter into our houses when we
came unto them, and to do fair things." And when they are
unable to work their will by means of a scheme of this kind,
they depart from this kind of deceit unto another, and say:
"How now is it possible for thee to live? For thou hast sinned
and committed iniquity in many things. Thinkest thou, that
the Spirit hath not revealed unto me what hath been done by
thee, or that I know not that thou hast done such and such a
thing?" If therefore a simple brother hear these things, and
feel within himself that he has done even as the Evil One has
said, and he be not acquainted with his craftiness, his mind
shall be troubled straightway, and he shall fall into despair
and turn backwards.

It is then, O my beloved, unnecessary for us to be terrified at
these things, and we have need to fear only when the devils
multiply the speaking of the things which are true and then
we must rebuke them severely. _ Let us then take heed that
we incline not our hearing to their words, even though they be
words of truth which they utter; for it would be a disgrace
unto us that those who have rebelled against God should
become our teachers. And let us, O my brethren, arm
ourselves with the armour of righteousness, and let us put on
the helmet of redemption, and in the time of contending let us
shoot out from a believing mind spiritual arrows as from a
bow which is stretched. For they [the devils] are nothing at
all, and even if they were, their strength has in it nothing
which would enable it to resist the might of the Cross.
41
And again on another occasion
there appeared unto me a devil of an exceedingly haughty and
insolent appearance, and he stood up before me with the
tumultuous noise of many people, and he dared to say unto
me: "I, even I, am the power of God," and "I, even I, am the
Lord of the worlds." And he said unto me: "What dost thou
wish me to give thee? Ask, and thou shalt receive." Then I
blew a puff of wind at him, and I rebuked him in the name of
Christ. ...

And on another occasion, when I was fasting, the crafty one
appeared to me in the form of a brother monk carrying bread,
and he
began to speak unto me words of counsel, saying, "Rise up,
and stay thy heart with bread and water, and rest a little from
thine excessive labours, for thou art a man, and howsoever
greatly thou mayest be exalted thou art clothed with a mortal
body and thou shouldest fear sickness and tribulations." Then
I regarded his words, and I held my peace and refrained from
giving an answer. And I bowed myself down in quietness, and
I began to make supplications in prayer, and I said: "O Lord,
make Thou an end of him, even as Thou hast been wont to do
him away at all times." And as I concluded my words he
came to an end and vanished like dust, and went forth from
the door like smoke.
Now on one occasion Satan approached the house one night
and knocked at the door, and I went out to see who was
knocking, and I lifted up mine eyes and saw the form of an
exceedingly tall and strong man; and, having asked him "Who
art thou?," he answered and said unto me: "I am Satan." And
after this I said unto him: "What seekest thou?" and he
answered unto me: "Why do the monks and the anchorites,
and the other Christians revile me, and why do they at all
times heap curses upon me?" And having clasped my head
firmly in wonder at his mad folly, I said unto him:

"Wherefore dost thou give them trouble?" Then he answered
and said unto me: "It is not I who trouble them, but it is they
who trouble themselves. For there happened to me on a
certain occasion that which did happen to me, and had I not
cried out to them that I was the Enemy, his slaughters would
have come to an end for ever. I have therefore no place to
dwell in and not one glittering sword, and not even people
who are really subject unto me, for those who are in service to
me hold me wholly in contempt; and moreover, I have to keep
them in fetters, for they do not cleave to me because they
esteem it right to do so, and they are ever ready to escape
from me in every place. The Christians have filled the whole
world, and behold, even the desert is filled full with their
monasteries and habitations. Let them then take good heed to
themselves when they heap abuse upon me."
Then, wondering at the grace of our Lord I said unto him:
"How doth it happen that whilst thou hast been a liar on every
other occasion, at this present the truth is spoken by thee?
And how is it that thou speakest the truth now when thou art
wont to utter lies? It is indeed true that when Christ came into
this world, thou wast brought down to the lowest depths, and
that the root of thine error was plucked up from the earth."
And when Satan heard the name of Christ his form vanished
and his words came to an end.

>Ahh noo, im shrivelling up and coming to an end, I'm satan btw aaaaa

>>85416387
Well, then make your own website, or neocities page at least. You're too good for any version of twitter, is all.

>>85416584
Maybe, but I'm also far too contented here. Maybe if I quit my job or something. The whole entire internet is dying anyway so is really worth any time investment at all beyond instant gratification? Maybe one day I'll get bored and also run out of videogames, and then books, and siblings to play 6 hour board games with somehow, and so it'll be a way to put off writing my novel. Who knows?

'cause I'm only a craaaaack, in this castle of glaaasss.

>>85416644
I like you best here, with me, but i'm just saying, if you were to move.
>>85416508
This reminds me of something i read in The Cloud of Unknowing. I have the book on my desk, i'll see about replicating that part here.

I think The archbishop Athanasius of
Alexandria might have been a tad schizophrenic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_or9gEB6g

>>85416700
Well gee, now I feel like I aught to make more time for you instead of continually wandering off.

>>85416716
>>85416700
I can't tell you homos apart.

>>85416716
Well, i do my fair share of wondering myself. It's knowing that your door is always open and your path is free to walk, that tends to make me leave my sleeping bag rolled up and stashed behind your couch. And it's knowing i'm not shackled, by forgotten words and bonds, or the ink stain that's dried upon some line, that keeps you on the back roads by the rivers of my memory; that keeps you ever gentle on my mind.

>>85416716
>>85418025
You Boys are ultra mega gay.

I don't recognize any of these posters these days.

There's not a whole lot to recognise. Most of the posters you could name are long gone

Recognize this
>*unzips dick*

Sorry I'd need a magnifying glass

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>>85420878
>250 questions for a mistype
Why would anyone do this instead of reading the Jung anyways

Reading the Jung is a lot of reading

It's really not that much reading.

It's shorter than The Lord of The Rings

I don't know about that, Jung has a lot of writings.

But we're just talking about Psychological Types, not his complete works, but even then, comparing complete works + letters, i bet Tolkien has more.

But a lot of his work is an extension of PT.
I'm not counting his letters.

Yeah according to Google PT is only about the same length as fellowship of the ring. Baby numbers really

How many anons have even read a book as long as fellowship though?

Reminder this is literally how centaur lives.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M6U35hmvdcQ

Ah good, the time of darkness finally encroauches

[83] These quotations show how, with the help of the
general belief, the unconscious of the individual was rejected
despite the fact that it transparently spoke the truth. There are
in the history of the mind especial reasons for this rejection,
but it is not incumbent on us to discuss them here. We must
be content with the fact that the unconscious was suppressed.
Psychologically, the suppression consists in a withdrawal of
libido. The libido thus gained promotes the growth and
development of the conscious attitude, with the result that a
new picture of the world is gradually built up. The undoubted
advantages accruing from this process naturally consolidate
the new attitude. It is, therefore, not surprising that the
psychology of our time is characterized by a predominantly
unfavourable attitude towards the unconscious

Yeah I'm like, not going to really read that last bit and just take's Jung's word for what the point of it all was here. But basically people withdraw their libido from the little voice in their head and instead just accept the collective consensus? We also just gotta accept that there's undoubted advantages to this, so that's why everyone in the modern age is a conformist?

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What use are INFPs, really?

>>85423211
emotional fodder, for other types to justify their own existences

>>85423211
The main use of INFPs, especially the male variant, is to realize that they're not actually an INFP; they're just depressed and possessed by their inferior emotional affects.

Male INFPs are also used for one other thing

>>85423377
Please elaborate, anon. We'd all like to know exactly what you're talking about.

Patchy would never come back if I went into detail. Not that he's an INFP or anything, but he does have an Fi child.

>>85423369
what similarities does depression and being an INFP have?

>>85423395
A chronically sullen demeanor which is used as a facade to mask their inner self.

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>>85423406
that doesn't really sound like INFP to me

I miss growanon/snubby

When is he coming back?

>>85423459
>your mbti
>which reggies do you miss most

>>85423105
>undoubted advantages
Such as ontology.

>>85423635
isfp
none

Does anyone got that image of what Jung works to read in order? And are there any editions with good artwork alongside it?

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How I genuinely be reminiscing the old days before I remember Mike from /mbti/ and the letter thread

>>85425467
nvm he's still being talked about today whoops
There was another schizo before him but I lowk forgot what his name was but he was also pretty legendary

>>85425467
>from /mbti
I don't remember him being here.

>>85423635
>which reggies do you miss most
There's only one that I miss.

>>85424563
When was the last time ontology helped someone have sex?

>>85427450
Nihilistic end of the world ravenous cult hippy psychedelic tent bearing sex routine

... Probably

>>85427513
Yeah, maybe in the 1960s pre internet when people were a lot easier to impress with shower thoughts tied pseudophilosophy

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I finished assessing all my types
the only ones I have any confidence in being real (as in, supposing that they are even valid system, that option applies to me) are my enneagram and ocean
that being said:
intj, 5w4, 514, sp/so, |R|COei, VLEF, phlegmatic, ILI, IN(T), aquarius, lawful neutral

>>85427631
How did enneagram make its way to being a valid system?

>>85427631
Another ESTJ in the thread, I see.

>>85427636
the more specific a system gets the less I buy it, socionics being the worst offender
the enneatypes all have real character at least

>>85427640
please elaborate

>>85427650
Sure, allow me to elaborate. You're an ESTJ.

>>85427877
that is not an elaboration

ElaborationSTJ

Guh, why did I agree to work for boomer today? It could have been a comfy uninterrupted day off.

>>85428158
are you saying me harping on clarification is THE defining factor of an estj?

https://youtu.be/swdAphAfDUc

>>85428218
I bet it was because of ontology.

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I have taken every imaginable test, repeatedly over ten years and it's always the same result
the introverted functions all dominate, with the occasional Te emerging fairly high up
I don't even answer them in a crazy way where I "definitely me agree utmost" on every sigma incel question
you can't tell me that every test is flawed and if I mellow out even more in my approach to answer them I will end up with half of my responses being neutrals
pic related most recent test, taken after a year long break or so

>>85428365
Things do be like that sometimes

>>85428666
>over ten years
Bro.
Read the Jung already. If you are going to waste this much time with MBTI, you might as well learn what it was really about and drop the shitty tests/blogs.

>>85428939
I did read that chapter or whatever, it is too vague

>>85428949
No, not only chapter X of Psychological Types.
The entire thing, at very least.

>>85428955
shiet negro that's a big book

>>85428949
>it is too vague
For you.

>>85428666
>666
Do you like being INTJ

>>85428995
I like being self sufficient and knowing what I am doing and where I am going

>>85429011
If you want to flaunt it it's fine by me I understand I'd do the same
>Excellent Te
>Excellent Ni
*cries self to sleep INFP scum*

>>85428666
>I don't even answer them in a crazy way where I "definitely me agree utmost" on every sigma incel question
How doth it happen that whilst thou hast been a liar on every other occasion, at this present the truth is spoken by thee? And how is it that thou speakest the truth now when thou art wont to utter lies?

>>85429946
I wouldnt say I lied on those occasion, moreso I tried to get an unambiguous result by always answering in the extreme, as if choices were binary (agree/disagree) rather than fivefold
all this does tho is make my extraverted functions disappear (negative Fe) without clarifying which introverted one reigns supreme

>>85427631
I hate rigid correlationists and I'm not saying you can't be your typology but ILI yet 1 in the tritype, first slot will psychosophy, and lawful neutral is a little questionable. Also, classic Jungian introverted intuitive is much closer to IEI than ILI.

>>85427650
What's wrong with speficicity? Yeah, it gets a little ridiculous if you add on all the reinin dichotomies and other stuff but basic model a socionics is very clear and I like how all the functions are well defined and distinct from each other.

>>85430493
Cringe Ti-autism. Mistaking the map for the territory.

Suddenly, my tummy doesn't feel so good

>>85431642
I can oil you down and give you a nice belly rub if you want that Centaur

Centaur you don't know me but you're basically my only friend and I copy your personality from time to time, I hope you don't mind lol.

https://youtube.com/watch/Y1II3JEeau8

>>85431756
I don't mind, hopefully someone who copies someone who copies someone who copies you will be somewhat infulential and then that would be my mark on history even though none of us could ever know. Even if it's just copying the sound effects I make when I do something.

If you all knew the truth about what I did you'd never forgive me.

>>85433252
There's literally nothing I wouldn't forgive you for anon.

Is being upset after a gaming binge that it was too much fun a "my steak is too juicy" kind of problem? Does this mean nobody is more privileged than heroine addicts?

>>85431705
Nah that reminds me too much of my mother giving my little brother a belly rub to help him poo. Also similar thing with Guinnea pigs

>>85430493
I appreciate the response, can you explain why these things don't match? You seem more knowledgeable on the subject. Socionics is the one I got the least into.
I suppose I am inherently sceptical of these things and the more details you add to your system the more hyperspecific and wishfully boxed in it appears.

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>reteograde microwave min e mbti mock test brigger niger in SAT samarasa Fplus in persona litty perpetually fialing human verificatioen periodlly for 10year

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>mbti
>whiche 16personality do you subconciously bluetooth conect and channel

intp 5w4
esfp 2w3 !!!/!

mine psychotice poet an princes personality disorer is imposible to intepet!!! summon thr twleve schizophrneic jesus in ths psych pit to divine this doctrien!!


AAAAAPPOOOOOOAAAHHHHJOIHHHHHH (they are screaming)
AAAAAAIUUUGHHHJAKIHGGGGGGH (in anguish)

cure fag post your cock now

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Post this!
>*unzips cockpost*

>>85435095
honestly, looks about how i imagined

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all I want out of life is to stay indoors, do my hobbies (meditate, read (mostly religion, history, classic fiction), lift weights, listen to and make music) and reach enlightenment (in the buddhist sense)
that's it
please type me

>>85437022
Wants to grill? Yep, that's an ISTJ.

Diary-Swirled 'round a bowl
Shot through a hole
Pushed through a pole
Spun out of control
Sprung from a sprout
Spit out a spout
That's what it's all about
When you're flushed down and out

>>85437282
I understand that, but even if the focus is on knowledge acquisition and mystical nonsense?

[84] It is easy to understand why all sciences have excluded
the standpoints of both feeling and fantasy, and indeed it was
absolutely necessary for them to do so. They are sciences for
that very reason. How is it then with psychology? If it is to be
regarded as a science, it must do the same. But will it then do
justice to its material? Every science ultimately seeks to
formulate and express its material in abstractions; thus
psychology could, and actually does, grasp the processes of
feeling, sensation, and fantasy in abstract intellectual form.
This treatment certainly establishes the rights of the abstract
intellectual standpoint, but not the claims of other quite
possible psychological points of view. These others can
receive only a bare mention in a scientific psychology; they
cannot emerge as independent scientific principles. Science is
under all circumstances an affair of the intellect, and the other
psychological functions are subordinated to it as objects. The
intellect is the sovereign of the scientific realm. But it is
another matter when science steps over into the realm of its
practical application. The intellect, which was formerly king,
is now merely a minister-a scientifically refined instrument
it is true, but still only a tool; no longer an end in itself, but
merely a precondition. The intellect, and along with it
science, is now placed at the service of a creative power and
purpose. Yet this is still "psychology" although no longer
science; it is psychology in the wider meaning of the word, a
psychological activity of a creative nature, in which creative
fantasy is given prior place.

So when you apply science you're doing a psychology? Something about Sheldon Cooper from the big bang theory bullying Leonard for having a doctorate in applied physics. He'd never ease off on him for Jung comparing psychology to applied science lol.
>Why yes Leonard your Applied Physics is just as scientifically valid as Jungian psychology
>*Bazinga*

cont.
Instead of using the term "creative fantasy," it would be just
as true to say that in practical psychology of this kind the
leading role is given to life itself; for while it is undoubtedly
fantasy, procreative and productive, which uses science as a
tool, it is the manifold demands of external reality which in
turn stimulate the activity of creative fantasy. Science as an
end in itself is assuredly a high ideal, yet its consistent
fulfilment brings about as many "ends in themselves" as there
are sciences and arts. Naturally this leads to a high
differentiation and specialization of the particular functions
concerned, but also to their detachment from the world and
from life, as well as to a multiplication of specialized fields
which gradually lose all connection with one another. The
result is an impoverishment and desiccation not merely in the
specialized fields but also in the psyche of every man who has
differentiated himself up or sunk down to the specialist level.
Science must prove her value for life; it is not enough that she
be mistress, she must also be the maid. By so serving she in
no way dishonours herself.

Jung Malding over not being a real scientist I guess. Anyway reading this mad me feel ill for some reason I can't quite put my finger on. Maybe it's because Jung gives off sex offender vibes. Maybe it's his disdain for specialization which is the most beautiful thing in the world.

Either way I don't want to look at it anymore! It makes me sick! Take it away from me!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLuv-ar52pI

>>85437345
Well it's other people's mystical nonsense you're collecting like a stamp collector.

>>85437420
hmm fair point, my own meditative experiences and spiritual intuitions are not wholly original, even though I independently arrive at some insights major philosophers have already contributed

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>>85437312
When a question arises about two great masses
Deftly in tune with the harmonic resonance of darkness-
The answer be not how long the orbit shall maintain.
But about which will falter, and which will remain.

Past the event horizon, nothing will return.
That's what they say, at least-
A marsh mellow over a fire will burn.
Atomized and lost to the entropic beast.
That's what they say,
At least.

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I wish there was a PDB but actually good

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personality types must be inborn. i was watching an old VHS tape of myself on my first birthday and i was already a silent observer with a look of pure analyzing on my face. people all around were shouting at me and shoving presents at me in unison and i was just deadpan the whole time. only time i expressed an emotion was eating birthday cake for the first time.

Damn, i'm surprised, but Dandy's World does it for me. It's kino.

What if personality types happen when you sculpt poorly like an ingrown toenail

didn't know /mbti/ was schizophrenia general

Mbti the new letter general except this time for cool people instead of freaks?

>>85438534
>personality types must be inborn
Nope.

>>85438945
No reggies were ever cool

>>85439017
T. Seething freak

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Oh boy, there's a lunar eclipse tonight, I knew I was up all night yesterday for a reason!

>BANISH the crooked cocked, low vibtrauonal lemure from yor biome
>writs you incomphrihensible homosexula love poems

SHUT THE FUUUCKKKK UUUUUPPPPPPPP!

*RRRRRAATTATTATAYTAYAYTATATTATTTATATATATTATATATATTATTA*

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>>85440061
>crooked cocked
How does she know

>>85438405
The thing that does it for me is now you need an account to see the votes.

[85] Although science has granted us insight into the
irregularities and disturbances of the psyche, thus meriting
our profound respect for her intrinsic intellectual gifts, it
would nevertheless be a grave mistake to impute to her an
absolute aim which would incapacitate her from being simply
an instrument. For when we approach the actual business of
living from the side of the intellect and science, we
immediately come up against barriers that shut us out from
other, equally real provinces of life. We are therefore
compelled to acknowledge that the universality of our ideal is
a limitation, and to look round for a Spiritus rector which,
bearing in mind the claims of a fuller life, can offer us a
greater guarantee of psychological universality than the
intellect alone can compass. When Faust exclaims "feeling is
all," he is expressing merely the antithesis of the intellect, and
so only goes to the other extreme; he does not achieve that
totality of life and of his own psyche in which feeling and
thinking are united in a third and higher principle. This higher
third, as I have already indicated, can be understood either as
a practical goal or as the creative fantasy that creates the goal.
The goal of totality can be reached neither by science, which
is an end in itself, nor by feeling, which lacks
the visionary power of thought. The one must lend itself as an
auxiliary to the other, yet the opposition between them is so
great that a bridge is needed. This bridge is already given us
in creative fantasy. It is not born of either, for it is the mother
of both-nay more, it is pregnant with the child, that final
goal which unites the opposites.

What is up with Jung's obsession with sex anyway? I didn't think I'd be this disgusted by his writing. He can't even write about the application of science with two hands. All I can do is chuckle to myself "Spitonthis erection" and sip on a hot chocolate to feel a little less violated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xby5467EbdU

But I suppose I should go head out to find the moon now.

>>85440375
Which reggie is this? Does anyone know who this guy is?

>>85440404
I'm not a reggie I'm just using this thread as a place to go through Psychological types line by line since there's people here who have read it and can help me to figure out what the hell is going on.

>>85440404
Very attractive looking number btw

>>85440414
If you are here a lot then you are a reggie

>>85440544
Well doesn't that mean you're also a Reggie then?

They call me a reggie, but I shit stochastically
maybe i should be keeping a diary, for my diarreah
then I'd have something better to write than I do currently
make it make sense

The only blood moon around here is when I press my cheeks to your window.

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tha likes of the vertigo vibrationalz cold never rotate an rationalize tis maidenxz matrix morse code in thy CALCIFIED cog-nitive!! *chachhinets abruptively* unveil thyself vermin,, am surr were all anyicipated to appraise thine withered animatrionic suit

This isn't exactly who I wanted to summon.

>>85437404
>Jung Malding over not being a real scientist I guess
He's malding over being a real scientist.
>reading this mad me feel ill for some reason I can't quite put my finger on
Maybe reading so many "science"s made you feel dizzy.
>>85440375
By "fantasy" he means intuition. It's interesting here how he's talking about tempering through the auxiliaries.

>>85441315
Close enough right? We got our budget Lilac

Ah right, I live in a valley, I don't get to see nice astrological things, between the rain, the moon fell behind a hill before the peak. At least there was a cool effect of looking like a proper crescent last time I checked but she's hidden now. I could have chased her down if I really wanted to, but it aint right to try too hard to look at a lady when she's having a shower

She's irreplaceable and we'll never find someone like her again.

diarygirl is the diamond in the rough. Just shape her up a little and we will witness a glimpse of god

I'm not a heretic. I'll never stop believing in my one true goddess.

I prefer squeaky

>>85441447
Diarygirl makes me diamonds

Everything is engineered to fuel your false hopes just to crush them

probably but I know things you don't. if you knew what I know you wouldn't say that and you'd try to come up with something different.

More like fuel your false hopes and then distract you from realising they were false so you more easily fall for the next hope

if you only had the imagination to infer what I know

I suggest we Nuke the creators of our souls and retain to nothingness.

I mean souls aren't real so go ahead. Just don't complain to me when you don't return to nothingness

>>85441938
erm, I'm not a mind reader, why don't you just write your novel already?

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This is a reg, this has sex with kids.

>>85441955
The story isn't meant for you. You aren't a character in this story.

>>85442004
Lilac spotted

Come wake me up when a story is meant for me then, meanie.

>>85442039
I wondered but why suddenly out of nowhere do this.

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>>85442039
Well I never, if it isn't Christine!

>>85442004
also I could beat this guy up easy

>>85442064
That's why he'd distract you with a pubescent child before hitting you with the 'ole nail to the back of the skull technique while you were slathering and drooling, immobilized. Anons are craft like that. Luckily for you however you'd be so enamored with the kid you'd probably be dead before you even noticed what was happening, perhaps even your consciousness would be extended by pure lust for a few milliseconds. A dream way to go out, all things considered.

>>85442093
>craft like that
Who are you? Are you the isfp

Kris what is your fiance mbti do you know

>>85442004
Why is he dressed like teto?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YBhpNIitzc

>>85442108
MBTI isn't inborn so he doesn't know yet.

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And we are back! Caved and using a more modern version so now the text is weirdly HD because I deleted my old install and can't be bothered to work that out again. I think this is about where I was, I don't remember much about what was going on, probably not good if you're trying to solve a mystery. But two years after I put it down, 3 years after I started, I'm even more of a genius than I was before, so I simply cannot lose.

I'm just glad to know she's still eerily, literally me. You go queen! I wish I had a cool LARP aunt to play "nuh uh" with. Part of me does also kind of miss pre-lobotomy beato though.

OK never mind the actual point I got to was way later. Found it now, and yeah she's still me. Can I be whatever type she is? Looking back I think I typed her as an ESTJ before? Interesting choice to say for sure. Even though every bone in my contrarian body resents it, ENFP makes a lot more sense, funny that Virginia just explained that witches are supposed to be a bridge between the non-human and human worlds, and aint that just a J*ngian intuition? I wonder how much she sticks with it? Maybe I was picking up on an overdeveloped tertiary function.

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>>85442561
Here's the bit I'm actually on. Basically Beato just agreed to sit in the naughty corner because she's too mean and made Battler cry again and she overuses saying "nuh uh" which paints herself into a corner and also apparently isn't a qualified enough Witch to play with Battler. And so back in the real world, the survivors are all hunkered down again, and now Pedo George is having some stupid flashback to when he was being a child molestor on Hawaii.

>>85442561
Ok, which reggy is this one

>>85442632
anon I hate to break it but there's literally only one reggy at this point since he chased off everyone else by being too much like beato

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God pedogeorge is pathetic. She was your 16 year old bang maid and now you're having these weird possessive thoughts just because she went off and got murdered? This is not a positive representation of romance! I hope the author is self aware about this but that would be a pretty far out ruse at this point. Anyway, now's when that gangly horsefaced witch comes back and offers to fulfill his wishes I presume?
>inb4 he immediately crushes on mini Eva

At least Battler is still based though

>>85440245
Just turn on desktop mode, phonefag

>>85443040
Oh, they must have fixed it, but I swear that didn't work for years

*achoo*
Whoops, I dropped my bump

>>85444161
Really? Cause I think I saw a couple of bumps pretty high up just now

>>85444195
Don't question me, MORTAL!

>ctrl+f ENTP
>no results
Why are we like this, ETNPChads?

who died this thread to deth y ded

https://youtube.com/watch/_rbMnggG5fU

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Hey, the thread made it past the 27th after all. How nice.

I was worried the whiskers were too blue, but with background it's fine.

I think mental illness is a choice. For example, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

It's a choice whose consequences won't be known until they arrive.
Just like the incels.

Im bored write an acrostic poem using lilacs postcode

>>85448312
>Im bored write an acrostic poem
Which reggie are you

>>85438035
When a question arises around two masses,
deftly in tune with the darkness harmonic,
the answer lies not in the length maintained,
but in the orbit that falters, and the one that remains.
Past the horizon nothing returns,
What's put over a fire surely will burn,
Everything feeds the entropic beast:
That's what they say, so I've heard, at least.

Oops, slept 14 hours

*15 hours
>Immediately gets on bicycle to go to work in a rainstorm without any rain gear
Welcome to the world or the living I suppose. I'm sure Von Franz would be proud.

>>85444374
P-princess Luna?!

Try to escape if you can. Of course the past is never so kind as to let anyone go.

>>85450821
Escape? Why would I want that? I am so trapped my greatest fear is the prison bars disappearing one day

We'll never stop /mbti/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1oUXUn30hts

>>85450917
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q9rewnLFYw

INTP - exhausts possibilities, disproving them one by one to find the singular truth. Other types find it difficult to understand, they like to frame people's actions as motivated by "hoping" and "fearing" rather than searching.

>>85451174
Why must you associate such superficial traits with typology? When in reality, these two things do not share a relationship beyond mere correlation.

>>85451249
Why is that superficial? It basically grinds down to what Jung said about introverted thinking. It's a different way of approaching the world.

What about anybody'e personality wouldn't just be "superficial"?

>>85451446
It's superficial because it's not typologically relevant. Any type could take that same approach, simply because it's not a structural observation of type. It's just a superficial behavioral trait which has no real relevance to type other than correlation. It's equally as superficial as saying ENFJ's are nice.

It's also not how Jung describes introverted thinking. Mainly because Jung doesn't describe functions from the perspective of behaviors. He doesn't say "x function does y behavior". He describes it from the perspective of psychological structure.

You've confused typology, which is the description of the structure of a persons psyche, and the behaviors a person exhibits. These are two separate things that do not necessarily share a causal relationship.
The behavior being described should not be assumed to be a direct manifestation of the typological structure of the psyche. Especially when looked at from a Jungian perspective. Because he doesn't use the behaviors as definitions of functions or types. The behavior is used as an example of what a specific function might look like.
You could find an ENFJ who exhibits the same traits you're describing while also being cold and harsh, and you could find an INTP who is nice and doesn't exhibit the behaviors you're talking about.

That's why they're superficial. Behaviors are surface level. Typology and functions are structural. There is certainly a correlation between the two, but correlation alone doesn't establish a causal or constitutive relationship.

Do some INTPs do that? Sure. But, that should not be used as the definition of what it means to be an INTP, or even a thinking dominant type.

>>85451586
I don't disagree but why did you take 1600+ characters to write the same thing multiple times?

>>85451586
>Although he will shrink from no danger in building up his world of ideas, and never shrinks from thinking a thought because it might prove to be dangerous, subversive, heretical, or wounding to other people's feelings, he is none the less beset by the greatest anxiety if ever he has to make it an objective reality. That goes against the grain. And when he does put his ideas into the world, he never introduces them like a mother solicitous for her children, but simply dumps them there and gets extremely annoyed if they fail to thrive on their own account. His amazing unpracticalness and horror of publicity in any form have a hand in this. If in his eyes his product appears correct and true, then it must be so in practice, and others have got to bow to its truth. Hardly ever will he go out of his way to win anyone's appreciation of it, especially anyone of influence. And if ever he brings himself to do so, he generally sets about it so clumsily that it has just the opposite of the effect intended. He usually has bad experiences with rivals in his own field because he never understands how to curry their favour; as a rule he only succeeds in showing them how entirely superfluous they are to him. In the pursuit of his ideas he is generally stubborn, headstrong, and quite unamenable to influence.
And so on and so on. So I guess none of that is any more superficial than saying INTPs prefer to exhaust possibilities one at a time to find the singular truth rather than be motivated by hope and fear?

>>85451736
It's not the same thing multiple times. I can grant you it's a bit sloppy, since it's effectively an unedited stream of consciousness. Because I'm more interested in making a point than appealing to the collective consensus of what looks nice.
>>85451769
This is very, very different to what was originally posted here. One (this) is the general description of an attitude, the other (post) is the attempted defining of a type by a limited set of superficial behavioral traits.
So, no. That quote is significantly less superficial. By a very large margin. Two very, very different things.

If you take that quote, what Jung is describing is a person who is intellectually "fearless", no idea is too scary to explore. But at the same time is extremely anxious and fearful about objectifying their ideas and making them "real".
Which runs contrary to what you're saying, they're extremely motivated by hope and fear. Just like all people.

But again, this isn't the definition of thinking or the introverted thinking type. He's not saying "all introverted thinking types are like this". He's using it as an example to illustrate the underlying psychological structure of the introverted thinking type.

>>85451893
> The IT type will hardly ever go out of his way to get anybody, especially important people, to appreciate his ideas, and when he does it will usually be so clumsily that he makes them appreciate his ideas less.
Ah you see now this is not X type does y behaviour because Jung said it!
>INTPs have a way of thinking that prioritises discovering "pure singular truths" by the elimination of alternative possibilities.
What is this superficial drivel and why is anon trying to force it into our pure art of typology on /mbti/ general on /r9k/?

Anyway I'm not that anon pretty sure he just made one post then left. I'm just his complimentary contrarian lawyer he gets for posting in this thread .

Also haven't actually read most of your posts yet lol just taking my chances to phonepost from work. Maybe you do make good arguments I wouldn't know lmao

>>85451893
I think you misunderstood my intent. I wasn't trying to set limits on your behavior. Rather, I meant to contrast the INTP's cognition with other types'. Since one can't read minds, you can only look for patterns in behavior to guess whether two personalities are similar or not.
One problem INTPs describe is isolation. My opinion is that this is because their cognitive functioning is perceived as unusual, not because they are trying to isolate themselves.

>>85452755
To build on this, normalfags usually go into a pattern of feeling -> idea -> behavior. For INTPs, it goes more like idea -> another idea -> action -> synthesize former thoughts to get more ideas -> develop a feeling about your idea -> get tired of it and pursue a different possibility. But norms don't connect with the whole flight of ideas, so they think the behavior and feeling is just craziness.

>>85452529
>Anyway I'm not that anon pretty sure he just made one post then left.
I kind of figured you weren't him.
>What is this superficial drivel
It's a stereotype which bears some truth, and has been used as a replacement for the definition of the structure of the underlying psyche.
>why is anon trying to force it
Seems to be quite obvious to me. Because it's easy to understand.
Saying "x type does y behavior" makes typology simple and easy to understand, while making it easy to slap superficial labels on themselves or others.
It's unironically a cope way of reinforcing their own self identity as whatever type they prefer, while placing a barrier between other people and their preferred type.

People love defining themselves with superficial traits they have because it negates the difficulty of real self exploration.
"I don't smile, that means I'm an INTP and people who do smile cannot be INTPs because INTPs don't do that!"
>>85452755
>I wasn't trying to set limits on your behavior.
I didn't assume that's what you were trying to do. I was primarily just pointing out the differences in the quote you posted, and the claim of the one anon. The quote uses behaviors as a scaffolding to get at a deeper understanding of someone's psyche. While the other makes an assertion of type based on a superficial behavior.
>not because they are trying to isolate themselves.
It's almost entirely because they isolate themselves. It's part of what Jung was talking about in that quote: >>85451769

>>85453063
>People love defining themselves with superficial traits they have because it negates the difficulty of real self exploration.
>"I don't smile, that means I'm an INTP and people who do smile cannot be INTPs because INTPs don't do that!"
It's not a bug, it's a feature of typology. A type always offers a way to label yourself and everyone else, even if we were just using extraverted and introverted. And those types have to describe something one way or the other, be it specific behaviors or vague allusions/examples of how a person of type X would do Y.

I bet it was one of the many reasons for why Jung didn't want to push his types much(he made sure to insist in saying that "categorizing people in types means nothing at all"), since they would get in the way of understanding, both of yourself and others. It's really annoying when people just go "oh I do X because I am Y and have X and Z traits/disorders", with no further inquiry, as if you were born with your entire psychological profile already written in stone, and external factors such as experience/environment didn't influence anything. And, more importantly, as if you were a perfectly static entity who couldn't possibly change for the best, or even the worst.
Unfortunately, he couldn't prevent anyone else from taking his work and misusing it.

>>85453448
It's not a feature of types, it's a bug. But it is a feature of the psyche, as much as one even can call a psychopathology a feature and not a bug, that is. Jung even calls it "degeneration of the individual" in PT.

Those types of behaviors may be annoying, but everyone does it. Everyone keeps aspects of themselves in the unconscious as a means to preserve their self identity. A lot of people believe that things are out of their control, even their own self.
"Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life, and you will call it fate."
- Charls Blumg

Which, somewhat ironically, perfectly describes the predicament a lot of incels are in.

>>85453063
I guess I disagree with Jung then. "Being impractical" isn't necessarily what logic about, it's just a consequence that can follow from focusing only on logic, and a way to recognize the type in the wild, a behavioral description equally superficial as saying ENFJs are "kind," and that also contains a value judgment.

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Jax's dominant: Ne or Se?

>>85454099
Reducing thinking to logic is not the correct way to look at it. Feeling is also logic.
I also don't know why you're bringing impracticality into the equation. Beyond that, I don't really know what you're trying to say here.

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>>85454103
>24.6k
Waow that's a lot of votes, didn't know those games were that popular

>>85454103
Never has there been an SLE who's that glib and slimy.

>>85454155
Maybe I replied to the wrong anon. I believe you said that INTPs are motivated in the same ways as other types and that no type can be described by external characteristics, while I was arguing the opposite.
>feeling is logic
Bizarre claim

>>85454943
You're replying to the right person, but you've fundamentally misunderstood what I was saying.

You can describe a type with external characteristic or behaviors. You cannot, however, define a type by those characteristics.
You can absolutely say "this ESTP likes playing sports, and that is likely related to his preference for extroversion and sensation."
But you cannot go from there to "Because he plays sports he is an ESTP/Se type. Everyone who plays sports is an ESTP/Se type. Or if you don't play sports you're not an ESTP/Se type."

The relationship between playing sports and extroverted sensation may be correlative, but the correlation alone does not establish causation. You can however extrapolate from this individual ESTP example his psychological structure which guides him towards sports, and use that to build a model of understanding of how/why that psychological structure manifests that specific behavior/tendency.

The basic claim is that you cannot infer a typological structure from a single behavior simply because the behavior happens to correlate with it.
A particular psychological structure may produce specific behaviors. But that doesn't mean you should, or even can, claim that those behaviors are a constitutive factor of that specific type.

>Bizarre claim
It is absolutely logic, though. It's just not a logic that produces truth or facts.
"Anon called me a mean name, so he's a fuckface." This is a feeling statement. And you can clearly see the logic in it. Feeling doesn't operate on random impulses. It operates on reasoning, just like thinking. Just draws a different type of conclusion.
Simply put, value judgements use logic.

>>85455122
>"Anon called me a mean name, so he's a fuckface." This is a feeling statement
That's thinking.
"Anon called me a mean name, I hate him" would be a feeling statement.

>>85455148
It's not a thinking statement. Whether you call him a fuckface, a bad person, a douche nozzle, or whatever, the premise remains the same.
It's a judgement about the agreeability of his statement. "I hate him" is a statement about the emotional affect anon's action produces.
It's effectively saying "Anon made me feel bad", which is also a feeling statement.

A thinking statement would be something like "Anon called me a shitlord". There is no valuation about anon's statement. It's not mean, it's not good, it's not bad. It's just what he said.
The moment you attribute things like right, wrong, good, bad, mean, nice, etc. You enter the realm of feeling.

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>Open Civilisation 4
>It's 2am now
Many such cases. But fun things are fun, r-right? I just can't do anything else with my life. And is that really a problem?

I should take up smoking. It would make me cool.

>>85454103
I couldn't finish this series. All I remember about the rabbit is he is mean and I don't like him. Probably an ENTJ more than anything since he's so neurotic about not being in control or whatever.

Also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCMZ23NzNV8

>>85455201
>douche nozzle
What the fuck did you just say about me you, little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class at the University of Zurich, have been involved in numerous secret raids on Centaur's Mom's House, and have over 300 confirmed posts. I am trained in physiological operations and the most prolific unlicensed psychologist on all of 4chan. You are nothing to me but another patient. You're fucking dead, kiddo.