Bold Suggestion EditionIt's Momcest Monday! You guys know what it is all about, share pictures, thoughts, and stories of your own lovely mom, MILFs, or any other family you fancy. Whether it's your sister, brother, dad, aunt, cousin, etc go ahead and post about them. Discussion of the biology, poIitics, and psychology of consanguinamory (consensual incest relationships) is encouraged. Cucks, cuckspamming, fetishspamming, simping, and schizophrenic spamming ARE NOT ALLOWED!Previous: >>85359824https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/85359824Story Library (needs updated): https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQd5IRmkPtsZPdaLoh6_NTjLj9RsEyEz-tI-nITar_cjgJGH5YLRu9Trja2-7lzA4lk-K7BZ_ByadkS/pub
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>>85411654these animu editions are getting a bit stale, OP
Going on vacation with my Mom next week. This time we will be alone in Amsterdam just the two of us since my Sister is going to Croatia with her fiancee and his family and my Dad is doing a "Guys only" trip with his friends in Czechia.
>>85411778>This time we will be alone in Amsterdam just the two of usHnnnggg hope you have a good time
>>85411654Reminder to everyone that you choose your son's mom, and kinks are genetic, so make sure to pick one that is warm, loving, sexy and takes care of herself. Those qualities tend to make good partners in general anyways. Know your worth kings.
dateanon. there's some serious bad, with a bit of good mixed in.the serious bad:>mom is urging me to get a girlfriend>says she's got some events lined up for us so i can socialize>said we're also going out next weekend to meet women>alarmingly, she's also talking about moving awayim afraid these are signs that she's pushing me away. i dont think i can deal with this.the bit of good:>she wore a new sleeveless low cut shirt for our outing>could see her pits and bra>could've easily seen her tits were it not for the bra>cant remember the last time she was that exposed>told her i liked the shirt and she should wear tops like it more often>she said no because she's embarrassed by her body, but i said she looks goodsurprisingly, she told me she wants to see some changes in my appearance. i try to avoid commenting on her body other than to say she looks good, so i didnt expect her to say that she thinks mine doesnt look good enough. maybe shes bringing it up because she thinks i'll look better to other women that way?i was expecting it to be a good day but now im legitimately stressed out. at least there was a laughable part where she said im probably going to have to settle for a single mom. its a fucked up thing to say to me. the only mom i'll go for is her, and that's it. kind of wish clapped back with that.btw, the order of events was>earlier in the week - said she wants to see some change in my appearance>date day - me telling her she looks good in the new shirt>date day - her telling me she wants to see additional change in my appearance>date day - her talking about getting me a gf and her wanting to move away
>>85412962I wouldn't say it's over but DAMN.
>>85412962Your mom thinks you're not socializing enough with girls and focusing on her to compensate. She thinks she should get out of the way :(
>>85411654>Bold Suggestion Editiononly CHADSON posts should be allowed
>>85411778Good shit, are you going to be in a hotel or?>>85412862oh? Info on this?
>>85411788Thank you anon! >>85413845No no we will be in a AirBNB
>>85413888Is it a one bedroom airBNB?
>>85414290No but both our beds are in the same room and my Mom is generally not a shy person around me so I might see some boobies if I am lucky
>>85414537Fuckkk lucky guy.
>>85413888Oof, I'm personally not a fan of those. Don't forget to check for any cameras or mics. Especially if you're going to try something with her.
>>85411654Last Week's Updatesrlg>>85360107Enmeshed anon>>85360747dateanon>>85369694Brosis>>85375405Unnamed son anon>>85379510
Incest poster here from the gif board. An anon from this thread found me over there and said you guys might be interested in hearing about my current situation. Ive been live posting whats been going on for the last few days and want to know if you guys would like it posted over here as well?
>>85414928one paragraph summary of what it is?
>>85414928Yes, we love to hear about people fucking their moms
>>85414937Got sick. Got out of the hospital and stayed with my mom while I recovered. Unexpected things happened. Now in a sexual relationship.
>>85412962>>85413150I have been vindicated
>>85415048First step for healthy momcest1. Have a gfA hard pill to swallow
>>85415029>>>/gif/31070746>>>/gif/31082356These are you I assume?
>>85415121Ya that is me.
Only successive generations of cousin marriages results in impairments.
>>85415183Did you ever flirt with her before things started getting intimate?
>>85415202Well yeah, it's a compounding thing, now what's the equivalent ratio for siblings?
>>85415274It's 4-6% for cousins, so 16-24%?12.5*4 = 504*4 = 166*4 = 24
>>85415251We have always been very comfortable with touching each other. Hugs have always been long and drawn out. Kissing on the lips was normal. Before retiring she was a school teacher so she would take the opportunity on the weekends to sleep in. My dad was always an early riser so I would crawl into their bed after he left even as a teenager and she would spoon me. My dad always thought it was weird but I liked it and she would always say something like he is still my baby no matter how old he is. If you read through that thread you will see that I have largely taken my dads place since he died and she has become heavily reliant on me for even mundane things. I have never been afraid to hold her by the waist or touch the small of her back or give her an impromptu back rub. Stuff like that was all perfectly fine between us.
>>85415342Hot read on the gif thread. I dunno what to say but good luck.
>>85414648>Unnamed son anonHey, this is me. Her and I haven't had sex yet, but I feel like we're very close to it. Friday afternoon, before she left to work out, I took up all my courage and slapped her ass. She was in some tight gym shorts, her ass looked amazing in them. I figured if it went wrong here, I'd be happy to call the whole thing quits if it meant I could get away with this one slap. Thankfully, she loved it. When I slapped her ass, she turned her head around so fast I was worried she'd get whiplash. She yelled my name in surprise, but she was smiling so wide it made my heart flutter. I "apologized," but told her I couldn't help it, her butt just looked too good in the shorts. At this she laughed and nudged my shoulder, and told me not to push my luck. But she looked back at me and smiled, and as she walked to her car she had more sway in her step. yesterday afternoon (nothing happened Saturday), she was leaving for the gym again. But this time, by the front door, she was leaned over to tie her shoes. But she was leaned at a very awkward angle, the only being her ass was pressed out and pointed in my direction. She was also taking a while to tie her shoes, and was making annoyed grunts over it. Which could've been to get my attention, or could've been genuine since she's the type of ditzy to forget how to tie her shoe. Either way, I approached her and slapped her ass again. She squealed and turned around to meet me. "Oh my gawwwwd," she said pushing me away, "you're soo bad," she said, getting close to me. I said something like "it's not my fault you look so good," but I stuttered a bit, because she put her arms around me and looked up at me, smiling so wide my heart fluttered again.We had a short conversation. I put my arms around her waist, and she got even closer. As we broke the embrace, I gave her a little peck on the lips. She bit her lip at me before she turned and left, more sway in her step.
>>85416162>more sway in her step.Hot
>>85416162You need to go for the butt squeeze during that kind of embrace. If that works then you slip your hand under her wasteband and squeeze her bare ass. If you get a giggle or playful squeal from that you go in for the real kiss. Done this progression on multiple women and it works. Your mom is just another woman like any other. It will work.
>Both times he slapped her butt she flirts and then sways her stepsShe wants it up her cervix so bad.
>>85416510But anon does not press his advantage when given the opportunity. These things are all about knowing when you can push further and that was a golden opportunity missed.
>>85412962>date day - me telling her she looks good in the new shirt>date day - her telling me she wants to see additional change in my appearance>date day - her talking about getting me a gf and her wanting to move awayShe wants you to become CHADSON, but thinks she has to move away to not be tempted into becoming a sonfucker
>>85415952So would you guys want me posting over here or not? No biggie either way. I will probably just lurk.
>>85416839Yeah, keep us updated. Do you see yourself becoming her sonhusband?
>>85416865Hadnt really thought about that but I would say sonboyfriend. I cant live with her as I own my own house and frankly I think it will stay hot longer if we arent seeing each other every single day. I dont want it to become routine and boring. I would rather go to her house or have her come to mine a couple times a week and have her be wound up like a wild animal. Also why does it keep saying that I am trying to use non ascii characters when I post? I have to delete most of my punctuation to get it to go through.
>>85416937>Also why does it keep saying that I am trying to use non ascii characters when I post?/r9k/ has a script in place to make sure all the posts on the board haven't been posted before and also blocks a lot of characters that aren't normal letters, It can be annoying at times.
>>85416963It is just weird that I see other people using the same punctuation that it kicks back for me. It doesnt let me use commas or quotation marks.
>>85417014Are you posting from an Iphone? They have a feature the fucks with punctuation to make it different from regular keyboard punctuation
>>85417036Yep thats it then.
HANG YOURSELVES DEGENERATES Global rule 1: You will not upload, post, discuss, request, or link to anything that violates local or United States law.@MODSDO YOUR JOB!>inb4 but it's legal in my third worldBut it is illegal in most of the US, similar to how you cannot discuss fucking 16 year olds on here.
Having sex with mexican mommy whose skin is a noticeable shade darker than yours because dad (who is completely out the of the picture) was white.
>>85416839Post over here bro.>>85417188What kind of cake flavor is she buying?
>>85417149It's legal in Rhode Island and New Jersey.
>>85417334CSG thread died out and kekson came here to fish for attention, don't reply.
>>85417284I cant until figure out how to solve this iPhone issue.
Used to have a relationship with my mum then one day she dumped me for some scammers and I left in rage Fuck her and her massive funbags she lost all the weight and money as wellThank God my current girl is into gentle mommy femdom otherwise I'd have gone mega postalCan't believe my mum did me in like that tho it really hurt I never talked to her again except to ask for money then she gave my stuff away and cut me out of the will pretty much
>>85417408Does your current girl have massive funbags tho?
>>85417388You can turn off Smart Punctuation in the Keyboard section of the General Iphone settings.
>>85415048im having trouble with understanding the logic. having a gf could somehow prove to my mom that i actually having feelings for mom? i've had other relationships before, but none of the feelings were this intense. well...there was one other time, but she wasn't interested in me so it never turned in a relationship. that crush lasted a year. it was so intense that i still have her name on the tip of my tongue many years later.>>85413150>Your mom thinks you're not socializing enough with girls and focusing on her to compensate.if she thinks that then maybe she's right. i've wondered about it myself since they say the best way to break crushes is to meet other people or to run away. my crush for mom seems so strong though that i think dating other women will be a waste of time.>She thinks she should get out of the way :(it's absolutely terrifying. i'd rather be forever alone than lose my mom. so if she's trying to get me to focus on other women while she's running away at the same time, then my stressing about her leaving will likely make me even more focused on her instead of the other women.>>85416718>She wants you to become CHADSONi doubt it, but it might be true. at first i thought it was because it would make me more appealing to her, but as i thought about it more i figured that it may be more likely that she thinks its what other women would want to see in me. or it could be both what she likes and what she thinks will help me.
>>85417408>my current girl is into gentle mommy femdomwhat are some things she does?
>>85417334more states when? more countries when-ner?
>>85417596>it's absolutely terrifying. i'd rather be forever alone than lose my mom.It's a struggle anon. Unfortunately not every story has a happy ending...ALTHOUGH it isn't the end YET.
>>85417488She used to im slowly getting her back up to f+ cup
>>85417604Jerks me off coos gets on top cute aggressive bites scratches grips me so hard as I fuck her her nails dig in and draw bloodTotal freaky little minx I love her so much loves her nipples tweaked as I eat her out as well and she crushes her thighs on my headBig sensitive nips too
>>85417596My girl knew me and my mom had a thing she didn't really care which I was very surprised as all the other girls noped out once they found out
>>85415304The rate of birth defects in normal pregnancies is 3% to 5% so a couple being cousins only causes a 1% increase. Ergo sibling would actually only cause a 4% increase to 7%-9%.
>>85418020how is that gentle??
>>85418029extremely based gf. maybe since its with your mom then she isnt worried about you dumping her for mommy?
>>85418392She switches lol>>85418398She was insecure about it at first but quickly got over itNo going back to mommy she's too far away thank fuck
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>>85418360That's not how it works...Oregami
>>85419869How do you properly categorise birth risks and compare between geriatrics or inbreds meaningfully?These threads like to claim that getting pregnant with a relative isn't as dangerous as claimed but I'd like to see actual stats again maybe with a breakdown by type of issue.I theorise that you'd see far fewer acute issues but more general lowered fitness.A population which flip flops between periods of in and outbreeding could theoretically display better fitness
>>85420651I spent a a lot of time working amongst the Chaldean community here in the states over the course of my life and while they do not wed brother and sister they regularly wed first cousins even today. It is not considered abnormal to them. As a result they have a lot of offspring of first cousins marrying and reproducing with other first cousin progenies. This has been going on for many generations. My personal observation after spending literally decades working amongst them is that there is a massive increase in mental illness amongst them. Narcissism psychopathy manic-depressive and even schizophrenia were all more commonly encountered amongst them than in the outside population. They are almost all of lower IQ than the average populace as well. Critical thinking skills were almost completely absent and the very concept often confused many of them. The ability to follow one conclusion logically to the next simply did not exist.
>>85414928>>85415029I was the anon that got you here and I am happy that you did, because you said that you can't promise that. I made some screenshots of your posts which I will post here rn, just in case that there is no archive and is lost.
>>85421378These captchas are nerve wrecking.
>>854214013 out of 7
>Tell me again mom, whose pussy is this? Yours!" She cried out. Whenever I want it mom?" "GOD YES!, WHENEVER YOU WANT! PLEASE JUST MAKE ME CUM!">I'm your plaything that's fine as long as you keep making me feel good. You can use my body however you want, whenever you want. I just want to keep feeling this way. I took her into my arms and kissed her deeply. I pulled away from the kiss, slid my hand down to her ass, pulled her into me tightly and told her we're just getting started.Have you ever read literotica stories, anon? Stop inviting /gif/ larpers here.
>>85421471back when he first appeared it was not that obvious.
>>85421471>>85421544Sure about that? Just had her send me some pics while she was out running errands.
>>85421674Here is another for you guys. Look how firm they still are at 55
>>85421687Sold, Kid. That's nice. Keep us posted
>>85421687timestamp on tits or larp
>>85422155How exactly do you propose I explain to her what that is and why I need her to do it.
>>85421674>>85421687Google lens brought nothing. Hmmmm...
>>85421055>massive increase in mental illness amongst them. Narcissism psychopathy manic-depressive and even schizophrenia were all more commonly encountered amongst them than in the outside population. They are almost all of lower IQ than the average populace as well.That's how they are naturally though. Inbreeding exacerbates the genetic traits a group has whether those traits are good or bad. I a family of Olympian Mensa members chose to inbreed they wouldn't start to have more deleterious traits
CANNON EVENThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbxUSsFXYo4
>>85422774She looks 90Plastic ruined her, I wonder when started getting pogged.
>sister pulled a muscle in her back so she came over to use our massage gun>asked me to use it on her>kept telling me to go lower until I was hitting her assWhat did she mean by this broughs?
>>85423374That you should grab it hard, slap, pinch and compliment it and bite your lip saying "DAMN SISTER, if we weren't related..." and leave it in the air just like that.
>>85423374Do not engage Onee are ambush predators just like their sister species Imouto>>>/a/290437288
Am I the only one who popped a boner watching that thick black mom beating her streamer son?
>>85423937>streamer rektlink?
>>85423928/a/ supposedly had some women get her older brother horny by teasing him over christmas and then got him to have sex with her while they were drunk on new years eve
>she punched him multiple times, verbally abused him and drained his bank accountsounds like the ideal mom for cucksons
>>85423944https://youtube.com/shorts/Ot8EGIpGZ1k>>85424033kek
>>85423937Yes, you are the only one, nigga.
>>85424096american hands wrote this
>>85424133I'm in Canada, you weird masochist cuck.
>>85424276His fault for not being chadsont. chadson whose mom showers with kisses
>>85424078Negro mothers are too rough to their offspring :(.
>>85424494Not true. All mommies are valid. He is just a gigaloser.
>>85424324>>85424549t. guy who is a loser irl
>>85424494i really love brown women
>>85424667Mommies can do no wrong. If they hate you, you fucked up.
>>85424735What if they hate you because it turns them on?
>>85424549She's a terrible mom with bad attitude.>>85424701Same gent.
>>85424735My mom beat me and emotionally abused me which is why I love my sister infinitely more than her.
>>85411654Dude, post this shit on >>>/aco/ or something, nobody wants to see that shit here
>>85422774My mom said the first time she heard about Dolly Parton was from 2 boys in her elementary school class talking about Dolly's big tits
one day we wont be shamed
wtf people's moms really do walk around in their underwear
>>85425742Mine will straight up change in front of me, seen her tits and bare ass a thousand times.
>>85426062i guess it do be like that sometimes then. not at my house though. people wore shoes in my house. nobody took off their shirt outside of the bathroom. everyone who wanted to change had to wait for the bathroom to become free.
>>85411654How many of you have actually seen your mom naked?https://strawpoll.com/PbZqbJ7AWyN
Drawanon here, been dealing with tech issues for a couple weeks now so I haven't been posting.This is the comic for the guy who wanted a son copping a feel and creaming his mom.1 of 3 >>85424779
didn't mean to quote that drawing with the ebony milf, but I wills say it was hot.2 of 3
have had these works done for a bit now for the record3 of 3
>>85427078looks sexo. I'm envious of anons with extra thick moms.
>>85427090The comments lol
>oh hi honey, I'm just making content for my onlyfansUnironically, a common situation at the Addams household
>>85427078>humongous tits, humongous ass>>85427086>nice stubbly pussy>BELLY>>85427090>funny commentsNice. Keep whipping up stuff like that.
took this pic of my mommygf while she was checking her laptop. She's not actually my mom but i call her mommy anyways
Working out with mom...
>>85428219Anyone have general advice for putting it on with an older woman? I have this mid 40s family friend and neighbor that I've been wanting to tap since I was like 13.
so is this thread just some guys that wish they could hook up with their moms or is anyone here actually doing something to make that happen. i just see a lot of wishing and dreaming. you guys do realize that your moms are women and women like men that take charge and make them feel safe. no woman wants a little boy that runs after her like a puppy dog.
>>85428540If mom aint into it, then mom aint into it.
>>85428540It's more than mommyfags, there are sibfags, cousinfags, sonfags, auntfags, nephewfags and a few deep cover daddyfags.Also some with an interest in the general topic but no practical application.
>>85428556you make your own reality anon>>85428564then what is the point
>>85428600To talk about it, what else do you do on an imageboard?
>>85428614talk about making it a reality rather than sitting in a corner like a cuck fantasizing about it
>>85428651I think you want the other thread.
>>85428664there is a thread here where people actually work towards the goal of developing an incest relationship with their moms?
>>85428535I have managed to pull a couple hags. You can't force them, there is no safe and effective certain way. You need to be playful and dont give them certainty, if they know you want to fuck in most cases they lose interest as many older women primarily seek the feeling that they still got it. They dont want to be the one with the younger bf or the one who was boned by a younger guy in most cases. However, they are mentally pliable and post hoc rationalize, so once you managed to get them hooked they will frame it as ok thing to do. To get them hooked you have to find some angle, I do it by controlled offending them. It allows me to say they are hot but at the same time I put them down for being boring. It is risky to fish this close to home though. I am not to put you down though I am fucking my landlady. Not into my mom but I am not against it because pretty much every day without orgasm is a wasted one, if two adult people want to experience exstasy together it should be encouraged not frowned upon
>>85428540Okay let's start with you then. What are your plans with your mom? Have you made any moves on her yet?
>>85428540Lurk moar, it wouldn't have lasted 5 years without people trying to fuck their relatives and many posters succeeding at it
>>85428685Several anons have in this thread deepened their relationship with a family member or at least reported the aftermath
>>85428720i would make the same moves on her i would any woman. just because she is my mom doesnt mean what works with other women wont work on her. take care of her problems. compliment her. maintain greater eye contact. physical touching of more intimate areas like her lower back and waist. create private moments that keep is physically close for extended periods of time like watching movies together or massages. take her on vacation to the beach where it is expected and accepted for everyone to be in minimal clothing. encourage some drinking to loosen up boundaries. make sure to spend this kind of time at her house where she is most comfortable and feels safe. do her laundry for her and tease her by showing her a pair of her dirty panties and complimenting them for being sexy. that took about a minute to come up with
>>85429166That's literally the basic advice we preach when someone comes in wanting to fuck their family>be attractive>have a preexisting good relationship>treat them like any other person you're trying to fuck
>>85429319>treat them like any other person you're trying to fuckWhat if the son is a virgin though?
>>85429351The anons that lost their virginities to relatives were given blatant green lights to do so in advance. If a person has no relationship experience at all they should probably get some first.
Drawanon here,was inspired by >>85424779 and wanted to try a little bit of painting.Hope you like it, had fun doing it so I may do more full color ones like this.
>>85429620Looks bretty good. Tasty black milf.
>>85429620>there are girls your age who look betterI want my mom bad, but she doesn't look anything like the women I would normally go for. So there's no real comparison between my mom and other women. Essentially, mom has no competition, because there is none.
>>85428693Sounds like good advice. I get it's a bad idea and I'm leaving for university soon so prolly won't have the opportunity anywho. Just indulge me a little.I like the idea of controlled offending. She lives alone and afaik hasn't had a lot of boyfriends, but I doubt she isn't sexually active all her life. Has those 21 forever vibes and to be fair, she could pass as a 33-39 year old with that body and looks. Likes to complain about people at work or politics or both at the same time. Travels and takes pictures a lot.She's not stupid and she's got a psych degree, so I'd like to hear your technique in more detail. Like you said, I seriously doubt she'll just let me hit if I ask and desu keeping her guessing sounds like fun.Also nice with the landlady. She hot? Helps with the rent?
>>85429743Older women do not play games nearly as much. You can flirt with them a bit and if they respond positively you can be fairly straight forward with them. I hooked up with a 50 year old when I was in my early 30s. I had great pot connections at the time and she was looking for a dealer so I fired I could make some extra money on the side. She was acting a bit flirty with me a few times of going to her house to drop her bags she just straight up propositioned me. She just straight up asked if I wanted to have some fun when I came over and maybe give her a bit of a discount. I was more than happy to agree and she asked me what Id like her to be wearing the next time she called me over. Easy answer sundress and nothing underneath it.
>"mmm yeah mom get those weeds like you got my dick">*gets hit by weed thrown by mom*
>>85429977is that your mom? if so, try making a move and fuck her if your dad isn't in the picture
>>85430051It's a pic I saw on /b/.
>>85430056you should still try to fuck your mom sometime, it might be awesome
>>85429977I'd shove my nose to her cameltoe. And bite the back of her legs entirely. And I'd also slap her bums to know what sound they'd make.
>>85429743>controlled offendingThe problem is that if you show too much interest, most hags got what they wanted. You kind of have to keep them intrigued long enough and make them self-conscious enough that they want to fuck without offending them. There are some who really want to fuck younger guys but most just want to test the waters, if they get the confirmation that you would they in most cases got what they wanted. You have to do thi game with several at the same time so you dont get needy. > Also nice with the landlady. She hot? Helps with the rent?Nothing I can brag with, just a lady next door. Then again most pornstars arent that pretty either. She has given me money, I am not proud of it but at the same time I am not gonna say no. I bought GTA VI preorder with it and stocks. The main advantage is to have empty balls. There is a difference whether you fap for half an hour at home, have rather boring safer sex or if you bust inside as nature intended. Best antidepressant in the world, by far. It is also much easier to cum a lot more, dont know about other guys but with hand operation + porn it takes me 30-45 minutes to really get it all out with the great reward of feeling bad afterwards. Additionally, I dont buy the shit about women knowing when a guy is having sex, instead I believe it is about the man simply becoming less needy. The downside is it makes it harder to procure new ones because you lack motivation. Saw a hag with a great ass the other day but didnt have the drive. However, had a great interaction I was pushed into by accident with a very young extremely cute Moroccan girl
>>85429873>Older women do not play games nearly as muchOnly if they want to fuck anyway which is a minority. Most older women only want to test if a younger guy finds them attractive, once they have confirmation, they bail. Exception is if she only has a small or non-existant friend circle, alternatively if you can postpone the reveal of your intention long enough to the point she has let her guard down. If you rely on the hags who require no game the yield is very, very small.
>>85429671> blacksSimply not into it, I would be into an older middle eastern woman though when it comes to diversity. So far no success, they usually only want to date older successful men or are off the market. White women are more likely to be open to date younger men, middle eastern women are more likely to date older men. It isnt a fixed rule but its a tendency. Not saying older men have no shot with White women but for most women that arent White younger men simply dont seem to be any relevant at all.
>>85411778She is lewd even when dressed normally
>>85430374for me its her veiny tits. Absolute breeding sow
>>85430419Post your favorite milfs
>>85430195Depends entirely on their hormone balance. If her testosterone is still there she will want to fuck. Unless she takes hormone supplements to boost her estrogen she will need lube but other than that she will be good to go.
>>85430179Oh so the idea is basically like every woman. Just lead her on and don't always and immediately giver her exactly what she wants (atleast not without you getting what you want first) How exactly I would do that with zero dating or sex experience is something I'll prolly have to figure out trial and error. Doubt there is a manual for that.I get it yeah. Would've enjoyed having someone to mingle with, when I'd come back but like I said just hypothetical. Still though, can't say I know a lot of attractive older women here. Had bad luck trying to meet girls my age. Don't even know where I could've found and connected with girls my age, let alone with women twice it.
>>85430566You can always play up on her womanly instincts to nurture. You need her sexual guidance, experience and understanding. Lots of women love that angle just like we men do
I wonder what r anon is up to recently
>>85424494>>85424779>>85428109>>85429620>>85429671i love brown/black hags so muchand i especially want them plapped by BWCt.brown
>>85431319>>>/x/Stay in the containment thread faggot
>>85431778/x/ does seem like the most relevant board for such a thread
What would your mom think of the animes you've seen?>>>/a/290402417
>>85432615idk but she bought me anime stuff that i've wanted. it sits on the shelf with my other entertainment and art.
>>85430454Misti and Erica J for me>>85430472I don't mean desire for sex but greater hesitancy>>85430566You have to go out and shoot your shot.
My mom doesn't cook for me.
>>85432801I'd cook for mom but I'm an even worse cook than she is. I can fuck up a box of macaroni.
>>85432639The sooner all of you realize that sex drives are universal the more successful you will become with women whether it is your mom your aunt or the hot old lady up the block. Human beings want sex. it is hard coded into our DNA.
>>85432871Not everyone can fuck their mom.
>>85432871Thing is I'm bad at sex, hard to comprehend I know because of millions of years of evolution.
>>85432972That isnt what I said. I said that sex drives are universal so you should all be keeping that in mind when pursuing women in general. Too many guys miss sealing the deal because they forget that. I have gotten laid by a girl I met at a bar and things were not even going that well with her but at the end of the night I simply told her she could go home alone or she could get laid, which sounds better to you? I got laid that night and many nights after.
>>85432979Bad at sex how? Describe.
>>85433009I focus on cunnilingus too much and by the time we get to humping I'm bored of it. I also have trouble staying hard. I don't want to talk about it anymore.
>>85433003How are you going to say sex drives are universal when people have different ones? Especially asexuals. I'd rather not have sex with people I barely know.
>>85433026I used to be you anon. I got some bluechew which I dont honestly need medically but it helps psychologically because you dont have to worry about maintaining an erection. Once that problem is solved you will spend less time giving oral which is also something that happened to me. Bluechew is so easy to get that i actually had a few friends go get it after I told them. Turns us into iron men for the night.
>>85433080Those people are the exception to the rule. 95% of people under geriatric age want to fuck.
>>85422320You aren't very bright are you? Proving she actually sent you this is beyond trivial
>>85430454Velba for sure
>>85430454Jodi West
Drawanon here,some small rough warm-ups.If you have a sexy momcest scenario send it my way and if I see it fast enough I'll bang it out (if it does something for me)
>>85411656>@Literotica-mombeen a hot bit since I saw the thread up
>>85433702/mcg/ did die somewhat early last week
>>85433934yeah it was a shame, I spent some time on /trash/ chatting around
>>85433493The steady increase in quality of your drawings over time puts a smile on my face drawanon
Drawanon here,Taking another stab at the mom-son sex tape idea, going to try to keep this one from getting long and convoluted like the Dylan saga didEnjoy the first panel
>>85430454Yukari Oorihara
>>85434388Why is her face deformed nigga
This is the mascot of mcg
>>85434388>>85433493Nice. Getting better fast,eh?
I'm a 22 year old femanon and I would totally fuck my son once I have kids (yes I'm Asian too)
>>85435605>sniffing mommy's armpit while going balls deep
>>85435615Tits, timestamp, you know the drill.
My mom's dead so I can't try shit IRL. Prostitution is legal in my country.I settled for the next best thing and found an escort that vaguely looked like her but with a momcest doujin-tier body: MASSIVE ass, large breasts, thin waist, each thigh as large as her torso. Cute mom face, olive skin w tasteful mature blemishes and bobcut. Technically a BBW but the sort where you don't mind because the fat went exclusively to the right places.Didn't ask her about mom roleplay because I didn't want to weird her out and miss out on fucking her.When I got there I had one of the best sexual experiences of my life. Started by sucking on her insane D-cups (surprisingly not saggy at all and still perky) while she stroked my hair. Fucked her doggystyle and her massive ass was almost supernaturally soft. I can't really explain it but it was both shapely and felt like you were submerging your hand in marshmallow. Couldn't hold it in and nutted since I'm an ass man.Afterwards we started shooting the shit while cuddling and I just melted into her body. Swear to god this woman is made out of memory foam. While doing so I felt extremely soothed. Kept awkwardly humping her thighs while we talked in order to get it up, she mentioned she's a mom of two which sorta explains her aura.My libido is then restored and I soon ask her to sit on my face. She grinned while asking "are you sure?" (she's short with an ass almost as wide as she is tall) and I agreed. Felt incredible though I damn near suffocated as it evolved to a 69.. Refractory period is still somewhat going but this did NOT deter her. She then got on top of me cowgirl style and started slamming her massive ass on my dick while licking my neck and tongue-kissing me. I almost never cum twice in the same sex session but she managed to wring it out of me through sheer willpower and ass somehow.My vacation is in two weeks but she's currently in another state. Wish she was here for another momlove session, it was divine.
>>85435605Will post more stuff of her.
>>85436524And more for shuure.
>>85436662'NOTHER FOR YA!
>>85436524>Noo, what are you doing, sonanon?! Mommy needs to finish making dinner...
>>85436759And moooooar.>>85436895It seems like sonanon prefers to have his meaty mom for dinner instead.
>>85435615Ah yes, the asian mother who wants her horny teenage son to focus on his studies so she satisfies his sexual desires.Your ambition is quite a well travelled path.
>>85435769Was about to do it, but realized I only want Asian cuties to see me. Reply if you are a cute huggable squeezable Chinese or Korean baby boy who loves mommy only (I'm keeping the bloodline pure). If so, I'll hold you and give you huggies and kissies whenever you want, and you can live with mommy and we can even have a baby and live happily together forever. Hope this screenshot suffices. FYI he's Chinese but talking to me in English since I'm Chinese American lol.>>85436960Sou desu, anon-kun!
>>85437101post your beautiful pink pussy and butt for us, Chinese femanon!
>>85437101>and we can even have a baby and live happily together forever.Don't fall for it chinbots The moment he hits puberty and can keep a throbbing stiffy for mommy, she'll be his property, Maybe you'll be okay with those intervening years together, but are you truly satisfied to know that you're raising the man who will cuck you?
>>85436902And keep the plapping up to a hundred!
>>85437101Go seduce your brother or dad or uncle or grandpa. mcg isn't for hookups
>>85437184And there you go.
>>85436192Oops, misclicked! Meant to reply to you when I posted >>85437101
>>85437254that's enough jav spamming, anon
>>85437272Thats the last stuff I stored anyway.
>>85437262Ya no one believes you.
concerned about lack of updates from tall anon
>>85411654My mom never touched me but my slutty adult half sister molested me when i was 15-17. Multiple times while i was asleep and woke up but tried to not alert her If you ever actually were molested byba relative, it's not the porn fantasy you think it is. It feels the same as being a girl and getting raped by a male relative. Especially when they are not attractive to you
>>85437668Lets see, am I still banned?
>>85437919Great Success! For legit 2 weeks it was saying I was banned for TOR usage? Idk. Things are fine. For nearly 2 weeks we skirted talking about our near experience both in person and otherwise. Tuesday morning I get hit with the pictured text.So on lunch I went out to my truck and called her. First thing out of her mouth after small talk was asking me if I truly want it, because how could she want it if I didn't. My affirmation was more forward than previous confirmations, stating that I wouldnt have spoke with her about specifics if I wasnt genuinely interested. My rebuttal was to then ask her why it was so contingent on me to which she restated not wanting to take advantage of me. I eased the tension by making light of it, sarcastically saying how awful it must be for a woman to be wanting to take advantage of my body. Im an attempt to keep the ball rolling I told her if she ever feels like sending me any explicit pics Id be elated. She was not a fan of this idea in the slightest, saying how I would feel if it was her asking that of me. Apparently my response of willingness caugh off guard. Her final sentiment on that was "Im not asking you to but I wont stop you."Anyhow, I havent worked up the courage to send anything yet. She's out of town to help a friend post surgery so I plan on seeing her when she gets back with the full intention of making things happen.
>>85437770>my slutty adult half sister molested me when i was 15-17.My condolences
>>85438031can you two just stop the teasing and get to fucking? no need for dick pics if she's DTF
>>85438333>stop the teasinglook at this nigga who doesnt know how women workgodspeed tallanon. very captivated
>>85438431Nah hes right to an extant. Guy is pussyfooting around this like high school freshman. The situation has been established and each party knows what they want. Now he needs to create passion. Stop treating and talking to her like mom and start talking and treating her like she is a desirable woman. Make feel sexy and desirable and she will be throwing herself into the bedroom. Send her a pic of you in your boxers with a hard on. Tell her that thinking about her made you this way. Make her want to see more but to see more she has to play along and send something back. Nothing crazy just a pic of her in the mirror or something. Then send a photo of you holding your hard cock over your boxers and ask her to send of photo of her squeezing a breast over clothes etc. etc. rinse and repeat until she breaks down and give you a bra shot or something. Only then does she get to see the whole thing and you remind her that she could have this right now.
>>85438237Thanks but you sound sarcastic
>>85438719feel free to share more if you want, anon
>>85438709no tall anon, you dont want any traces of any of it on your phone. only do your thing when you're alone in the house and all doors and windows shut
>mom forgot about her cookies in the oven>now the house smells acridTfw
I wonder how many pairs with mutual incestuous desire stay unrequited due to the complications it would cause
>picrel Nadine's mouth hilariously shaping itself to eat Hitomi's tit>>85439828>>now the house smells acridSimilar things happened in our house some time ago. AWFUL
>>85437770That happened to me with my mother when I was really young, anyway i do have momcest fantasies, but not involving her.
Drawanon here, still clipping along on the mom-son sextape stuff.In the interim I figured I would show you facelift I did on the Mom's face and coloring. I finished the last one super sleep deprived so it looked shit. sorry.
>>85437770>i was 15-17>molestedWeak bait, anon.
>>85441354Looks good, the initial one wasn't even that bad imo
Bumptmsiowj
>>85437770You were 15-17. You could've overpowered her, so why didn't you fight back? Go kill yourself anon lol. Peak male victim complex, most pathetic thing I've ever seen.
>>85441354Nice blackass, would slap her cheeks. Bite 'em, knead 'em.
>>85439189In plain terms, this is what has dissuaded me. Being risque while distant is definitrly a way to show desire and something I have had to deploy in the past. How else can you harbor intimacy outside of the bedroom when you aren't physically together? That being said, its only a matter of time. Not worried about anything, nor am I worried about her changing her mind at this point.
>>85441417Retard >>85440870Makes sense. Most moms are ugly and it makes you feel gross and degenerate. At least you put another woman in her place mentally.>>85443259You're retarded. I weighed like 135 lbs and was a nerd who played smash bros all day. She's also taller than me, played college volleyball, and was built like serena williams back then. She could probably kick your ass too, faggot
>>85443823Do you resent your sister because of the molestation?
>>85443791You could get more risque once it happens. Obviously both of you will expect some expression of intimacy outside the bedroom, as normal in relationships
>Using AI to make random women wear sleeveless turtlenecks
>>85443913Yes, I don't talk to her or her mom anymore. She is an ultra lib slut that has a new boyfriend every yearI still talk to my dad regularly but he is always trying to get me to make amends. I never told him what she did. He is clueless and doesn't even believe men can be raped by women just like the retards in this threadHer mom also caught her sleeping in my bed with me in it multiple times, but acted like it was normal and that she wanted a brother and to be treated like family. She was abusive and would blame me and my porn and gaming habits. Meanwhile her daughter was touching my dick while I was sleeping, would catch me from behind and simulate fucking me, and always trying to finger me. She is mental and her abuse if me destroyed my confidence for years. I was afraid of women for a long time and still am a bit
>>85443823There's a lot of people (ITT and on the rest of the site) that don't get that molestation can occur not just because of physical power, but also social power. It's ironic because 99% of this site is whiny incels who believe in social power when it stops them from getting laid but not when it's what enables a woman to violate a man, but I digress.My condolences, anon, your sistersex should be consensual
>>85445134/a/ posters know all about rapemoutos and moneelestors
What's your impression of foids in general after that happened, since she is a rapist and her mom was ignoring the elephant in the room and blame you?
>>85445150The rapemoutos are real but the onee are more power tripping or confused than molesty.But never underestimate a brocon
These threads are so slow I could believe that you've all actually managed to get into IRL relationships with your family members
>>85446093Most of the quality posters actually are in long term incestuous relationships
>>85446106i wish i knew how to be a quality poster
>>85446106No they aren't lol. They're larpers who got bored with the charade and stopped posting.
>>85446093They are. And unlike cuckniggers they got jobs. Can't spam about how much their moms loves sucking cracker/spic/nigger/bug dicks all day, gotta raise their brothersons and all that.
>>85428564And at least a couple of lesbodaughter
>>85428540My sister lives with me and will likely never move out but I don't know how to suggest a romantic relationship without feeling like I'm coercing her due to the extreme power imbalance
>>85446539She is either romantically receptive or she is not. You are never going to convince someone that has zero interest in a sexual relationship to want one with you especially when it requires crossing a massive taboo. That is before you even begin to think about the power imbalance. That is unless you intend to specifically use the power imbalance to force her into one and then plan on grooming her into believing it is conceptual. That would be evil but definitely possible if she truly has no other options for a place to go.
>>85446897>You are never going to convince someone that has zero interest in a sexual relationship to want one with youWhat if money is involved?
>>85446897Exactly, and I don't know how to suggest it "safely"
>>85446897>>85446930As she is the only person I actually really, truly like and were it not for her need for me, I'd be an hero, I have no desire to force/coerce her into a sexual/romantic relationship
ADDRESS THE ELEPHANTADDRESS THE ELEPHANT ADDRESS THE ELEPHANT
>>85447125RAPESON does what RAPESON wants.
>>85446930See this is the autism of this board. One does not suggest a romantic or sexual relationship because that is not how it works. They develop organically. This is why so many of these anons in this general have failed. They think they can sit down and talk their way into having sex. Maybe that would work if your mom or sister was really autistic but normal woman are not logical beings. Women are specifically illogical beings that operate on emotion and impulse. Want them to fall for you then get out of your porn addicted brain that believes that cartoon guide might work and actually be a chad that women are attracted to. Add in the built in trust that comes with being close family and the proximity of living together and you will succeed.
>>85446985Were you two always close?
>>85447214It's been complicated since we had pretty abusive parents, but the answer is "sort of but not really" until more recently>>85447212Suggest is bad verbiage but "women are illogical creatures" is moronic too, same with the mythical "chad", this is the only (You) you're getting from me because every one of you worthless whoreson retards reports me once you get BTFO and then I get a 1 month vacation
>>85447212>They think they can sit down and talk their way into having sex.Anon's sister after he explains why she should have sex with him:
>>85447245Whatever you say lol. I could not care less.
>>85447245>Suggest is bad verbiage but "women are illogical creatures" is moronic too, same with the mythical "chad", this is the only (You) you're getting from me because every one of you worthless whoreson retards reports me once you get BTFO and then I get a 1 month vacationTake your meds bro
>>85447284I had this happen to me "1 month ago" on a different board, Anon and I'm still mad
>>85434388Bitch looks horrific
>>85447295This is why "momcest" posters are degenerate freaks, they're all into nasty fat bitches
>>85447290Have you tried ravishing her?
>>85447309Yeah, siscest is much hotter and actually biologically viable unlike what some delusional people here say about 50+ year olds being fertile.
>>85447245>It's been complicated since we had pretty abusive parentsCommon among siblings who desire each other.
>>85447309>literally the most common body type to desire throughout human history>degenerate freaks
>>85447343>"Common">Shows one (1) statue Meanwhile: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coupled_siblings
>>85447364Dude take your meds.
>>85447394Address the argument faggot
>>85447290Which board did you get banned on anon?
>>85435615>>85437101>>85437262I support Choidette-anon. Be sure to be a goonbaiting slut for your son like you'll never be his father and like no woman could ever be for him afterwards.What would your first time with him be like, Choidette-anon? Have you fantasized about it?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB5tnokRFS0
>>85447466I got banned on /lgbt/.
>>85447317Have you tried not being a nigger? Like for real I don't know why I was surprised that didn't pass the filter?
>>85447343That's not what the so called venus is thought to represent.
>>85447466/adv/, I was arguing with someone whose only "interactions" with women were in their head and through pornography and I got a 1 month vacation that I waited out
>>85411654I guess I'll post this because I don't often get to talk about what happened to me and sometimes it feels good to get it off my chest. I grew up living in a small town in the northern part of Michigan's lower peninsula with a single mom. For a while things were normal until I reached my teenage years and things took a turn that still have me fucked up to this day. My mom became my first everything. She was my first girlfriend and took my virginity, she was my first love and first heartbreak. I don't hold any anger towards her, in fact I still love her very much but because of her I'm still lost in life.
>>85448608Anons really will larp anything itt
>>85448608How did things start and how did they end?
>>85448636You have no idea how much I wish that was true. >>85448648Started with her developing a drinking problem when I was young that got out of hand and ended with me at 20 years old packing up all my shit and leaving before she got home one day.
>>85448690Why did you choose to leave her?
>>85448706That's a really emotionally complicated question but ultimately it came down to the fact that there was no future in me staying. When I say we lived in a small town I mean we didn't have a neighbor for a quarter mile or more in either direction. We still had to buy everything at a general store unless we wanted to drive 45 minutes to the nearest thing resembling a city. There was very little work and no way to socially interact with people my age. That isolation was a major cause of everything that happened.
>>85448729What is your life like nowadays? What are your ages?
>>85411656>@EscobarHappy plump wife, happy healthy babyLife's good
>>85448753Objectively my life is ok. I have a decent job and a place of my own. I don't struggle to pay bills or anything and I have some money left over at the end of the month. My problems are not wanting to spend much time with other people after I'm done working and my inability to form a meaningful relationship with a woman. I've had girlfriends but those relationships always felt shallow and empty compared to what I had with my mom. None of them last for more than a few months. I'm now 26 and she is 48.
>>85448754Great news Escobar. Is she already keeping your wife and you up at odd hours of the night?
>>85447467Why are you idolizing a woman who wants to sexually abuse her future son
>>85448793Since you're in a better place and still have feelings for her would you want the relationship to continue if possible? Have you ever tried to contact her and get her to live with you?
>>85448831I'm in a better place physically and financially but in so many ways I'm emotionally still stuck in that small town with her. If I went back would that relationship continue? I'm sure it would despite me knowing better. It would be like putting heroine in front of a recovering junky. I do talk with her regularly as we're all we have for family for the most part. I don't want her to live with me though, that's why I left. I needed to get away from that. The best way I can describe it was like being in an opium den. I felt safe, secure and there was endlessly intoxicating pleasure but the reality is my soul was dying a slow death. If she lived with me she would bring that opium den with her.
Continuing to slowly get closer and closer to my sister in a way that's realistic for us both; tonight she mentioned that she puts weight mostly on in her tits, hips, and assGod I need to get her FAT
>>85448893>the reality is my soul was dying a slow deathWhat was it about her that makes you choose a lonely existence over her?
>>85448924Any drunk cuddling lately?
>>85448971No but I did pat her head a lot and squish her cheeks (face, not ass but God I wish, I would light myself on fire for a handful of her cute ass)
>>85448971>>85448977Also how did you know it's me?
>>85448988>how did you know it's meLucky guess
>>85448961To be fair I didn't know when I left the kind of psychological damage that had already been done to me. I didn't feel abnormal at the time. It wasn't until later when I started dating that I realized I was pretty fucked up. Basically I didn't know I was choosing this existence at the time. I thought I was going to escape that tiny town and lead a normal life like everyone else, hopefully find a girl I could marry and have a family with. I knew none of those things were possible if I stayed with her.
>>85449044What do you think about your situation now? Solitude is still preferable to your mom?
>>85448797Oh yeah the wife and I are the worrying types and we are always hovering around our little princess to check if she's still breathing, that girl is our world nowIt's been tough but we wouldn't change it for the world
>>85449069My situation kind of sucks. I feel guilty for leaving her alone and wanting to live a different life. Obviously she did not want me to leave which is why I left without warning. We had fights for years over me wanting to get out of that town. I wanted to go to college when I graduated highschool but she talked me out of it because it would mean leaving home. She used emotional manipulation and sex to keep me there for years. She would tell me that I don't need to go to school because i would just be going into debt. She wanted me to find a local job and stay at home. She is a school teacher at the small school the county has and made enough money to pay the bills anyway. She would tell me I already have a home and a woman that loves me so why would I ever want to leave? I feel like both lives are lives of solitude, just different flavors.
>>85449142What did/does your mom and you look like?
>>85443823>>85445134Americans are insane.
>>85449256She has blonde hair and the last time I saw her it was shoulder length. She would often have her hair in a ponytail unless I would braid it into a French braid for her because I thought it was sexy. She has the build of your typical middle aged mom. She has a little extra weight on her but she wears it well across her frame. She has a little tummy that has become something I'm supper attracted to on a woman. I like the softness. She's a d cup and they're still in really good shape. I have mousy brown hair that was blonde when I was a kid. I'm a few inches taller than her and in decent shape but not like I was when I was living with her. My abs are still there but there's a little layer of fat over them these days. I should probably start going to the gym before I let myself go any further. When things started she was a little less heavy but other than that she hasn't changed much. Back then I was lean and fit like any other country kid.
>>85448924Tell her to show you next time
How many of the regular momcest enjoyers are here for the hot mom bods?
>>85447467>>85447467What is this AI slop??? And I look more like the pics I post than whatever that is, although I appreciate the sentiment. And hmm, I haven't really fantasized about it just yet... it's more like I think of being really physically close to him and loving him like that all the time so much that he can't help but dry hump me on a regular basis, not being able to control it, finally leading up to a day where he finally puts it in and goes all the way or something. I'm still really young at the moment though, so I have to settle for being a big sister instead of MILF for now. Read more at the new thread I made regarding this at >>85449748 if you wish.But FYI, I'll still be beautiful and fertile for a long long time and won't degrade until much later, because I got my first period at 17 almost 18 years old. Would be a dream come true for him.>>85448822I wouldn't do jack shit. It would all be initiated by him. But this will probably just end in my fantasy and never actually happen irl.
>>85450212Moi. Myself.
My younger sister wore a top that revealed 75 percent of the cleavage of her big breasts to dinner today and nobody in my family said anything. Not even my mom who I was expecting would tell her to cover up and how it's "not proper" to show that much boobage. So anytime I turned in my sister's direction I got a huge eyeful of her huge tits. So today was a good day. I got plenty of fap material to rub one out to my sister later on. But the real test long term is keeping my cool and figuring out a way to get her attracted to me or open up to me if she already secretly is attracted to me. Because I would really like to squeeze and motorboat and suck on her big tits while fucking her without a condom.
>>85448893>my soul was dying a slow deathwhy st-anon, was the taboo too much for you? how long did it last?
>>85450667why are you thinking about teens humping your leg instead of guys around your age? what went wrong, femanon?
>>85450997Good morning. >why st-anon, was the taboo too much for you? how long did it last?A strange thing happens when you are groomed in a nonviolent way. You know what's happening is wrong but it feels good and the thrill of doing something you instinctively know is wrong is addicting. Over time you learn to love the wrongness but at some level you still know that you're being manipulated even if you've become an enthusiastic participant. It's your mother after all, how can you tell her no especially when she's all you have. There's no other people around 95% of the time, the relationship becomes all consuming like being in a two person cult. I still love and miss the taboo. If I'm honest I still miss having sex with her. That's why no girl seems to work for me, none of them can match the level of intimacy I had with my mom. They all feel like strangers in comparison. To answer your other question, things started happening when I was 12 and her drinking got bad, everything went out of control a year later when I was 13 and didn't stop until I was 20. I say stopped at 20 but I've visited her and had relapses when I did. Like I said earlier, it's like being a drug addict.
>>85451105>no girl seems to work for me, none of them can match the level of intimacy I had with my mom.Others have shared similar things here in the past.How often would you fuck?
>>85451105What were the positions you two fucked in?
>>85451135Every chance I got so usually at least once per day for the most part. There would be days she was on her period and didn't feel well or one of us was sick but other than that I was pretty constant. She had a high sex drive. >>85451201You name it. Part of her manipulation to keep me there and not wanting to leave was letting me do new things to her. That's where some of my guilt comes from and makes me feel like I would be the manipulator as I got older. I learned I could push that issue and I would get rewarded so to speak.
wonder how grieving son anon and his mom are doing
>>85451242Groomer drunk while not being some beating abusive bitch. Not ideal to society but for the bedroom a great adventure.>Part of her manipulation to keep me there and not wanting to leave was letting me do new things to her.Crazy moms instead of being manipulative emotionally, they should be more like your mother. Damn maybe I might be saying some real dumb shit kek.
>>85449142Are you trying to normalize your relationship now or what? How do you see your future with her or are you hoping to find the right woman and get married eventually?
>>85451356>Groomer drunk while not being some beating abusive bitchThat's part of the reason I don't hold much animosity toward her even if I probably should. Nothing felt like abuse. She would get drunk and lose her inhibitions. She obviously wanted a man and decided she already had one at home as puberty really started to kick into high gear for me.>Crazy moms instead of being manipulative emotionallyI don't think she was crazy, I think she knew she was eventually going to lose control of me and tried to use sex to maintain that as long as possible. Her manipulations obviously worked but I never lost my own will even if that will was weak at times. >>85451370>Are you trying to normalize your relationship now or what?I don't think that's possible. If it was up to her I would move back into her house and we would kick up right where we left off. I don't know if I want it to go back to normal because as much as it pains me to admit, I loved it. >How do you see your future with her or are you hoping to find the right woman and get married eventually?I'm going to continue trying to keep her at a distance because what future is there with her? Should I move back to to that shithole town, live off of her because there's no work? Stay with her in that little bubble while she drinks every night until life has passed me by? I just can't do that. I'm hoping I can get over the things in my head and have a "normal" relationship. I say "normal" because I've admitted to myself that I'll never probably have that even if I find a woman I want to be with because that woman is going to have to be a bit fucked up too. Can't exactly go from having spent 7 years of increasingly kinky sex with your mom to some vanilla girl who wants missionary with the lights off and expect to be compatible.
>>85451555>Should I move back to to that shithole town, live off of her because there's no work?>while she drinks every night until life has passed me by?There another way, st-anon. Move to a better town with her, where nobody knows you and there's more work. Have your cake and eat it too.You can't let her rot in loneliness and alcoholism. That's not what a good son does.
>Can't exactly go from having spent 7 years of increasingly kinky sex with your mom to some vanilla girl who wants missionary with the lights off and expect to be compatible.One could only imagine the things this motherfucker and her were doing.
>>85451663Believe me, I tried to get her to move us to a real city when I was still living with her. She refused to leave. The way she saw it there was no reason to leave. She had a job, a home, booze and sex. I think she's too stuck in her ways to change at this point. Maybe if she got sober she could get a teaching job close to me but so far that hasn't happened. I think she likes the isolation because it allows her to have her little kingdom that she gets to rule over even if that kingdom is now just her and a couple dogs. >>85451669For better or worse I don't need to imagine. It's all still in my head. For years it was pretty vanilla apart from the fact that it was incest I was just happy to be along for the ride. It wasn't until the last few years when I had really started watching porn that I began wanting to do the things I was seeing with her. Like I said earlier. I feel kind of guilty but that's when it felt like I started manipulating her for as much as she was manipulating me.
>>85451778When did the escalation start, and how did it start?
>>85451811>how did it start?The house is over a hundred years old so it was hot in the summer and drafty in the winter. We only had two window mount AC's, one in the living room and one in her room. For as long as I can remember I would sleep in her bed during the summer for the AC and in the winter she would tell me to sleep in her room because it would be warmer with the two of us. Looking back I have to question whether this really started all the way back then and I was just too young to understand. At the time those sleeping arrangements just made sense but she could have bought another AC for my bedroom window.>When did the escalation startI feel it happened in three stages. The first was normalizing me sleeping in her bed for years. The second stage happened after she had developed a drinking problem. I wouldn't say she was a full blown alcoholic yet but by the time I was 12 I remember her starting to get drunk some nights. Those nights she would be extra touchy feely when we went to bed. She would spoon me as the big spoon and tell me how much she loved me and how her baby was starting to become a man. Of course my hormones were raging so feeling a woman pressed against me and whispering sweet things in my ear drove me crazy. I would wait until I thought she was asleep and would rub one out in my pajamas before I could fall asleep. Wether she found out because she wasn't actually asleep or because she found the stains in my pajamas I don't know but one night I was trying to silently rub one out again and she let me know she knew what I was doing. She told me it was normal for a boy my age and I didn't have to hide it. Things went on like that for a while. Eventually she started verbally encouraging me when I would do it but wasn't physically participating. The last stage started at 13 when she crossed the line of touching me and having me touch her.