I enjoy video games that are like jobs (Civilization, Stellaris, gacha games) but I absolutely despise gainful employment. Once I understood why, I became radicalized to anti-work ideology
>>85420925>Once I understood whyAnd what is that reason
>>85420931Because society is set up to be hierarchical instead of equitable, and sometimes your boss needs therapy.
I love rally sims that are so difficult it stops being fun but I shit myself and have a panic attack when I have to drive in the snow IRL
>>85420925I stopped playing Minecraft when I realized it's just Chores, the Game. At least my job pays me to do mindless shit for hours.I stopped playing RPGs when I realized I was grinding to train fictional people when I could just go to the gym and do the same thing for myself.Maybe I'm just growing out of gaming as a whole.
>>85420993Why is that? It doesn't translate from using a controller? You have a low tolerance for pain?
>>85421012It mostly has to do with there being actual consequences for my actions
>>85421006So this is how passive consumers (TV or tiktok reels) are born. All games are chores if you look at them with cynic goggles
>>85420931I can stop the game and move on to something else whenever I want. You cannot just walk away from gainful employment and you need gainful employment to enjoy the things you want to do.It's all fucking rigged against you
>>85421023I do a little of that but I try to be more intentional with my time. I write a lot and practice playing instruments with a lot of my free time now.
>>85420977But that's only half the storyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Square_and_the_TowerHumanity is a mix of network and hierarchies Sure things like the government or the military have chains of command, but there are also decentralised networks. Think of the Skyrim modding community, it has no one in charge. Or the rap music genre. The Sci Fi movie genre.
>>85421023A lot of games are chores though. And just because you would spend your time brainrotting doesn't mean everyone else would, that's not what anon was saying at all.
>>85421021All actions have actual consequences. That's how time works. The real question is whether your decisions have ramifications.
>>85421045The "networks" in this case still have hierarchies, especially social networks with pecking orders.
Video games are just progression porn.People only play them when life is moving too slow and they need something to scratch the itch of progressing at something.Making meaningful progress in real life often takes months or even years.Nothing against playing games, you just can't let that be the only source of a feeling of accomplishment in your life.
>>8542092513 years of babysitting and managed activities from helicopter obese single mother karen teachers to then certify you to be allowed to pay for 4 years of living in a prison cell to get a bachelors in geology after 2 years of general education requirements of sociology and feminism and spanish etc in order to send an application to interview with an Indian HR hiring manager to throw your application out because you're not an ethnic group he can profit off of to then repeat that cycle for months while living in your parents' basement and you finally get to an interview where it's understood that there's a role that needs to be filled and you have a desire to fill the role and then you find out that you're basically just being treated like a minimum wage filing cabinet fax machine drone with no progression or skill transfer and they opted for you instead of an intern or simply being honest in the job description and so you're struck out again and you repeat this indefinitely until if God loves you you're lucky enough to start your life at around 25 ...what if it wasn't required? What if you could get that rewarding feeling of learning and practicing your skill tangibly and concretely in a good environment and you...could just have a desire to do so and nothing else?
>>85421391Minecraft was so amazing back in the day. I can't believe I finally got bored of it. But it took a long long time. Sometimes I wish I'd devoted that time to something else. But if I had it probably would have come to nothing anyway.
>>85421591The only other thing that doesn't require that long drawn out process are any skill that can be learned from books, and usually those are too opaque without a tutor to help you through the first parts.
grand strategy games are kinda embarrassing
>>85421209Or maybe people just have hobbies and interests that aren't ratrace maxing?You grindset faggots are really stuck up lmao
>>85421679>ratrace maxingYou're the one stuck in the rat race if you hear "progression" and immediately think of money. You can progress intellectually by learning and practicing something, or physically by working out, socially by dating, and in many other ways too. I am still doing those things because I want to, and it's not like I dream of being a rock star because I practice playing an instrument. I still play video games too, just not as much. I just recognize that incrementing some numbers in a computer in a save file you won't ever touch again in a few years probably isn't the best use of my time.
>>85421006That's fair. But games are a useful tool for productivity if used in moderation. All vices are great for rebooting your dopamine levels. But we spend too much time recharging rather than spending that energy on useful things.
>>85421702I don't think it's fun to do things to progress. I think it's fun to do things because it's fun to do those things. I'm already enough and I don't have to prove anything to anyone
>>85420925Wouldn't it be cool to incorporate games with real life and create jobs this way? Like for example controlling a delivery drone in some kind of augmented reality. You fly through coins to get points and have to dodge simulated stuff like in the oldschool Mario game. Or use drones to collect crops in large underground vertical farms while another team is trying to outcompete yours and augmented lasers are being fired.What else can you come up with?
>>85422615Use drones to kill people in warzones.Get a high score and you get a medal of honor or a letter from the president.Outsource our entire military to bored teenagers.
>>85420925There are survey sites that will pay you to play random grindy mobile games
>>85421012>>85421012It doesn't translate well at all, controlling a car in deep snow is uncomfortable and you are near losing control most of the time. You risk getting stuck and looking like a fucking idiot, and sliding into an embankment and denting and shredding your car.
>>85420925video games that force me to log in everyday feels like a job to me and makes me want to quit.
>>85420977>Because society is set up to be hierarchical instead of equitable,You would have probably preferred to live like this instead.https://web.archive.org/web/20220729044944/https://quotepark.com/quotes/1910206-benjamin-franklin-when-an-indian-child-has-been-brought-up-among-us/
>>85422664>You risk looking like a fucking idiot!If that's what you're worried about, maybe you actually are an idiot and therefore your concerns are valid
