Give me one reason why I shouldnt mutate myself by taking shit tons of testosterone and how it wouldnt cure me of being a Chud
>>85421943Itd just make you have post chudum depression and kill a few children in a hormone fueled rage. We'd all empathize with you when the wom*n misunderstand what you were going through king
>>85421943Simple question: How would that cure you?
>>85421950I would become jacked and attract women, simple as is.
>>85421943It could work, providing you dont have serious side effects. Honestly a natty physique is usually always better aesthetically
>>85421955A natty physique takes years to get while roids can have me looking like a competitive bodybuilder in a few months
>>85421955Let the roid users learn why roids are retarded. Their tendons will be stressed, their liver taxes, their head bald, and their balls shriveled and deemed redundant by their bodies, in a permanent state of atrophy for the rest of their lives
Zyzz already proved it can work but also that its a bad idea
>>85421963The thing is body builder physiques like in the 210lbs+ lean territory is not very attractive to most women. If you wanna skip to your natural potential then fine. Like most things in this context too much is bad
>>85421954Women don't really care that much about muscles but rather face and height. Muscles are a plus but if you look like a roidtranny it'll cause the opposite of the desired effect.
>>85421981Some girls REALLY like muscles, its all personal preference. Working out has a ton of benefits besides raw attraction like making you more confident
>>85421980I definitely would not push mass monster territory. Even I think most of them look like freaks.For example I dont mess with tren. Only the clean stuff like primo
>>85422002I think is reasonable (well more reasonable than blasting). Just try to not get the body dysmorphia where nothing is ever enough
>>85422000You can work out and gain muscle without roiding.
>>85422022Only if youre a pussy
>>85422016To add to my thoughts, if you are gonna do it accept the fact that you are risking accelerating balding, harming your liver, infertility, potential mental symptoms, cystic acne on whole body, possibly losing it all if you ever come off, gyno, advanced aging. As long as you get that you can do it if you want though personally I think its foolish
>>85422044Sounds like you already started roiding.
>>85421943you'll get moobs and lose your balls aka become a tranny
>>85422190What about natural testosterone boosting agents that only superpower your balls, like enclomiphene ?
>>85421943>Take substances that destroy your health (including penis and balls) to look freaky and ugly in a sort of different way>Still be a socially inept manletNo.
>>85422268are you trying to be gay without being gay?
>>85422284No but I am trying to make gainz
>>85421943Suicide is easier desu, only a small percent of trannies actually look passable which is sad but reality. Suicide solves your problems permanently
>>85422308I am going the opposite direction though
>>85422308A troon seeks to change who they are, I simply enhance what I already am
>>85421943Are you an athlete anon? If not, it's not worth it to sacrifice your health for muscles which are just for show.
>>85422022Yeah but progress is slow as hell.
>>85422655You can get a decent body in the span of 1-2 years.
>>85422717I can get that same body in 6 months on roids
>>85422790You lose the progress you made once you stop juicing.The steroids fuck up your body and mind the same way HRT does with troons.Your body gets fucked up. Your brain gets fucked up. Your organs start fucking up. Your life expectancy is decreasing significantly. Your balls shrink. You get roidrage. You start having homoerotic thoughts. Etc.Just go the natty way instead of the easy way which'll inevitably come to haunt you after.
>>85422886Maybe you have a point, I still need a boost though. Might as well take natural t boosters like enclo
>>85422886Explain how Arnold is still living on in his late 70s then.
>>85421943it actually does cure you but not for the reason you think
>>85423465Exception isn't the rule.
>>85423511Damnit, you were supposed to take that bait like an idiot.
>>85421981Just do TRT dosages. High doses of roids will make your skin look old and unattractive, the most important thing is to safeguard your face and hair. You can still build an impressive body on 150mg test per week and its much healthier for your skin as the collagen doesn't get nearly the same degradation.
>>85423594I could've made the counterpoint of Zyzz dying way too early because of it.>>85423639Nah, I think I'll stay natty instead.
>>85421943>>85423510Gymrat to femboy pipeline is well documented.And there's nothing wrong with it at all.>>85423465Arnold stopped roiding 40 years ago and spent a fortune on fixing his health.
>>85423639>HRT>TRT
>>85423686What causes this? Too much estrogen from their test aromatizing? Brain chemicals getting fucked by exogenous T? Not being able to live up to their expectations so they troon out ?
>>85424102probably a bit of all at once.it's also routinely the case that guys get into gym and roids as a method of avoiding trooning and that's how they figure it out that no matter how great they look and feel physically as dudes, the longing doesn't go away. T aromatizing probably accelerates that too.also, once you get used to the discipline from roiding, then trooning out becomes way easier.t. gymbro to hrt femboy
