it feels genuinely impossible to make close friends these days. everyone already has their circles and doesn't need to welcome in anyone else. even hobby spaces are exclusionary.
>>85422100People do not need each other anymore, your fellow anon on here would rather RP with a fictional anime character in their imagination and play hentai games than interact with you
>>85422182to be fair you're all fucking awful, i've been here since 2012 and i think i'm just about done at least with this board if not the entire site, this place has been trash since 2020 at least but this year has been just unrecognizably garbage, none of these people used imageboards before 2020, absolutely none
>>85422100at this point im convinced actually wanting friends must be some form of retardation because every normalfag i know treats everyone around them as completely dispensable
>>85422182people still need each other, but everyone has someone already.>>85422210not a commentary about here but the world in general, pop off though >>85422252i dont really mean normies because they arent relatable to me personally, but interacting with close friends to trust and be vulnerable with
i am sick of hanging with dudes - i need a gf
>>85422100i don't mind this because for some reason, i really don't like being around people much. any time someone tries to be friends with me, i reflexively treat them coldly
I dont even try anymore. People are just retarded.People now take life extremely seriously. They're so fucking overly cautious, paranoid and easy to panic, it's very pathetic.I work on the Vegas strip and I like to fuck with the rich tourists who get on the bus.>rich italian woman or some shit on the bus>she keeps looking at me for some reason>pay no mind>she keeps looking>eventually i meet eyes with her on purpose every time she looks>this "disturbs" her>she literally gets up and stands up and turns around>keeps turning back to look at me >she finally sits>when its time for me to get off i get up and brush her arm with mine, the bus rocked me into her accidentallyyup, i gave her the male gaze the molested her with arm to arm contact. I belong in jail now.
i searched /soc/ and 99% of people there are only interested in video games, anime, music and porn. they wont be interested in my plants and my jams and my mushrooms or well frankly anything about the world that is outside of their mass culture consoomerist slopi fear humanity has grown up and lost its childhood curiosity, i hope that never happens to me, there are many things i know nothing about like the stars and animals and cars but i think id enjoy learning about them, at least i hope so(imagine there's "the Little Prince" quote here)
>>85422532sounds like you're just ugly 2bh
>>85422542>my jams?i've always wanted to do shrooms
>>85422552except you don't keep looking at ugly people. good bait tho.
>>85422563>except you don't keep looking at ugly people.you should keep telling yourself that, anon
>>85422563you must be one extremely ugly bastard to get stared at
>>85422568>>85422577no one stares at ugly people on buses. keep trying though.
>>85422556jams are preserves made of fruit, water and sugar. today i made one from 1kg of sour apples, 1kg of chokeberry, 200g of sugar, some ginger and cinnamon. I love turning otherwise inedible-or not very tasty- fruits into something amazing. i know so many fruits you've never even heard off!
>>85422585I do. But I'm ugly. I stare at my reflection in the glass
>>85422100It's over for me. It really is a meme that people will love you and accept you for your faults and all. After a certain age, people have settled into their friend groups. I don't resent those people. It's just how life goes.
>>85422587yeah i can see why no one would care about thatbut i do
>>85422252same, idk wtf happened but its like everyone's firmware got updated and they became psychos or robots a few years ago. i really want to know whats going on in people's heads/daily lives but honestly, i would probably be disappointed.
>>85422587how do you source your fruits or buy them or forage them nonna ? do you grow them yourselves and if so what kind've fertilizer or i guess take care of them, what plant hardiness zone do you grow in?
>>85422542>i fear humanity has grown up and lost its childhood curiosityI wish I could still feel this way. I'm glad someone out there still does. I just know I can't anymore.I think it is the uncertainty of the future- or more accurately, the certainty of a bad future.Don't let the negativity of life get to you anon. I wish I could still see life's color, but everything is dark and grey
>>85422669Uhh, I think my country is 6 or 7 for USDA plant hardines? Chokeberries i got from my uncle (my has only begun to grow....). In my garden I also have (thanks for the english vocabulary exercise lol):>gooseberry>white, red and black currant>blueberries>rasberries>a plum>a peach>sea buckthorns>quince (cydonia)>a flowering quince>white and black mulberry (new additions)I also forage for wild cherry plums, blackberries and bird cherries. This year I also found a pear and some transaprent apple trees- they grow semi-wild in my country, as in there was an orchard here and there a hundred years ago and they're just left fruiting for noone but birds and hedgehogs... oh, and black elder! I make syrups both from flowers and fruits.There is so much more that I want to discover and try out, like dogwood, blackthorn and magnolia vines. One day... one day I will even import some pawpaws and may apples from amerca.>>85422734To the contrary, abandoning all hope is the basis for a return to childish wonder. Once you no longer care about family, long life, money, you have time and energy to adore nature. I no longer feel bound by polite society, idc if im childish and irresponsible, this world has very little to offer me.
>>85422630i resent myself. for mistakes, for a lot of things. it really is hard to drift day by day yearning for something taken for granted by so many.>>85422663they're busy with their own lives. that's all, really. we're not a part of it.>>85422542video games, anime, and music are widely diverse and there's 100 different ways to be into each. gardening, making food, those aren't mutually exclusive with the others. some people have never really been given the opportunity to grow foods or have a proper kitchen with which to make preservatives. those are interesting things, but like mushrooms, i think you'll find the spores are easily grown once planted in the right mind.but before you can make jam, you need to be able to jam with that person in day-to-day things, like music. things aren't so lost out there
>>85422587>jamscool shit anon, but i like Kompot or Turshialook em up, they're cool alternatives to Jams.anyways i have tomatoes and cucumbers and peppers and zucchini in me garden.The world isn't lost yet, it's just somewhere else than 4chins.
>>85422824hmmm so relatively really cold areas, how do you like it up there up north i presume, do you ever make beverages out of the fruit whether through making them as mead or using those lovely sweetners, how do you even deal with the massive amounts of fruits and now jam, do you like giving them away or hoarding them away from the world, i've had cydonia's since all the issues that they would have are alleviated in a semi tropical/warm area
>>85422542>musicCan't believe kids these days are into art and shit. People have lost their sense of wonder and can't see beauty in the universe anymore, that's why they listen to music. Luckily, your interests are very niche and special
>>85423133Literally everyone listens to music, that's like saying you have an interest in eating, sleeping and breathing air. It's just consoomingIt's another thing if you actually play/create music, I can respect that, just as I respect brewers but despise alcoholics.
how to cope with being ignored all the time by everyone or to stop being ignored. i feel like its part of my dna, a lifelong affliction
>>85423015my father makes all the compots, they are better than store juices but i prefer tea with added fruit syrup!I have plenty of veggies too, tomatillos are my favourite since noone else knows of them here but they grow better than tomatos and are pretty much not touched by anything in my climate.>>85423069I like the weather most of the year but i hate how long our winters are, i wish we didnt have so much frost and snow as its the main restriction to what I can plant in the ground.I wish I lived in the Georgia on the Caucasus or in Japan or in South-eastern US. On the other hand, I do not envy people in the Mediterrenean and in the North-West US as they have a very fucked up rain pattern but lets stop this autistic rant!I eat what I can and give out the rest to family and friends. Sharing is caring.
>>85423201>Literally everyone listens to musicYou'd be surprised. Also there's very different levels of listening, to the point where it's basically a distinct activity.>that's like saying you have an interest in eating, sleeping and breathing airAll of those are essential for survival.
>>85422100I have at least one friend, but I struggle with people. I feel like I've devolved into insincerity. I can change that as long as time goes on. There's only a certain kind of person I relate with, but I feel like I also change, and lose a certain flow to my personality that makes me interesting at all, as I continue to keep something else going. My constants shatter. I long thought I was never fit for the world or interaction with other people. I've honed into something before and things work out when I do, but when that becomes disturbed I feel a little lost. I hate when things proceed to parody. When things become rehashed, that's where it starts to lose it's soul. I know that's not entirely related to your thread, just ranting.
>>85422587This is really cool and it's something I would like to do myself. The problem is that it's kind of difficult to really talk about.>I made jam>Cool>Yeah...
>>85423205Don't put your energy into people that don't want you, I think. People are complicated. It will make you lonely, because you realize just how many people do not actually give a fuck about you when you dip out of their life. They don't contact back. They don't care enough to reach out. I don't believe in finding a right person or friend. Not everyone is gonna be the right person for you.It's not easy. It doesn't stop not being easy. For me, it made me see how my family viewed me. Some friends got into relationships and started prioritizing other people and themselves over me. You're not unlovable, but it'll sting that you don't matter to people like they matter to you. Not much I can say to help you with your pain. I hope you find it in yourself to see your worth, but it's another distinct pain when you cannot share your mutual love and trust with another human being. You are just alone.
>>85423263There's also something about things socially proceeding to a comfortable point that I don't like. I feel like it ALWAYS becomes insincere and lacking in depth. There's something about it that feels shallow and wrong to me, but it's never socially appropriate to analyse things socially. I don't really like to be "in it". I always want to be somewhat outside of it, even if I use it. I also know that socializing is inherently strange, weird, and an atmosphere full of anthropological terror. It's special to me when I can find someone in the midst who's also divided from that, but still, I fail to find a place. I'm just rambling.
>>85422663>covid / vaxx>covid lockdowns>accumulated social media psyops>accumulation of war news, more new wars, more money to Israel>worsening of demographics (not from a social media stance, but having to see more browns)>increased prices due to inflation and supply line shocks (and oil nonsense from more war efforts)It's not surprising that people will sense all this, even subconsciously, and decide to start tuning things out in a purely self defense way for their own psyches.
>>85422972>yearning for something taken for granted by so manyYeah. I go outside and I see kids playing with their parents and dogs and it's uniquely melancholic. I resent myself as well. Have done a lot to push people away and I don't really change. Hope it gets easier for you, anon.
>>85423288thank you for the response. I already know people don't care and I don't even have anyone to put time and energy into including family with whom i am not close with at all. All i have is discord servers that other ppl happen to post in i guess. I have been alone for a long time, the first time I felt that way was probably around 10 yrs old.
>>85422734/a/ here, there's a tl:dr; I can give you on the trajectory of mecha anime, but the basis is that when Japan still held hope for the future, there were good scifi anime, "future's looking bright lads! Even if it's a dystopian show shutup!"Then the lost decade(s) happened and now it's "let's not talk about the future. hey about isekai, wouldn't it be neat if there was a world that acknowledged your efforts!"Simplifying things a lot but there you go.
>>85423227Why not get into greenhouses or indoor growing or hydroponics? Compound your autistic interests.
>>85423343I started out young feeling that way too. Was too quiet and was never socialized right. Always sat alone. I got used to it, but the worst thing is getting a glimpse of what it's like when it's not like that and then it's gone as fast as it started. Do you talk frequently in those servers? I've had bad luck starting convos, personally. I hope it goes well for you.
>>85423313Also, I hate subtext and pretext so fucking much. I absolutely despise it. It's the enemy of human interaction and yet DISGUSTINGLY pervasive. I want people to try to meat me on a deaper level, I want them to try to empathise with my words, with an underlying respect, I don't want a fucking social minefield where assumptions are made based on things like what is "socially acceptable" or "unacceptable", it's foreign to my modus operandi. It's becomes a clash of systems, and there's no easy way out of it.
>>85423288I am not speaking for your family or friends, but be careful with this mindset. What does a relationship with you produce? More time with you doesn't bring greater returns. More time with [relationship] may bring marriage or children. Just some food for thought.Time is limited in a day, that doesn't mean the underlying emotions are now less.
>>85423373Yeah i feel your pain. I constantly feel like i'm annoying other people so most times i usually end up leaving and i very very rarely ever dm anyone :/
>>85423333go outside and its families, friends, partners. go to a hobby space, its couples doing it together, friend groups, all of it. repeated onwards. like you i turned inwards and became self destructive and pushed a lot of people away, tried to change more times than i can count but that doesn't really work either.>Hope it gets easier for you, anon.have heard this parroted for too long. decades plus. it doesn't get better, it just slowly slides down worse and worse. i'm fully given up at this stage. there's no way forward for me.
>>85423375>pretext: wow anon seems upset>hey claude, draft me a consolatory message to them>certainly! If it's a clash of systems, you just need to win. Skill issue.>wtf claude how is that helping>grok salvage this pleaseAfter making a grievous social faux, or when one finds one's self unable to connect with the world around them, arrange one's self in an enclosed area and fill the space with carbon monoxide. >AAaaaAAaaaaaaa>help me chatgpt you're my only hope! Certainly, to ease feelings of anxiety, try listening to some calming musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
>>85423389>What does a relationship with you produce?Companionship. That's it. I don't think there's any greater value to me than that.>that doesn't mean the underlying emotions are now lessA person saying they love you, while withdrawing from your life and never giving you the time of day, in my opinion, reflects that their underlying emotions are not intense.
>>85422100it's because a genuine thought from you is only hatefuli bet you're bigoted in some wayi truly believe in human rights and all that woke left stuff and people try hard to be my friend but i am schizoidal and do not wish to have connections with people unless i share common interests with them
Friends are almost always more trouble than they're worth, at least in modern society. I have zero friends or social circles, and I don't want any. The only people I'd ever want anything to do with are my future wife/wives and children. My ideal life would be in an isolated village in the mountains where only my loyal kin live.
>>85422100I think it's an issue of not making yourself visible enough.There are a lot of people who have no one and could befriend each other, but it never really works because most of the time, we're too passive and unapproachable.This thread alone already showcases how many of us seek friends, but are usually met with either a.) people already in friend groups who don't want to invest time getting to know us, or b.) unapproachable people who aren't too thrilled when someone tries to connect.So now the question remains; what we can do about it?Sure, we could add each other or make some discord server for people searching for friends, but making a friend solely on the basis that we are both lonely doesn't really work that well, because there isn't necessarily any natural chemistry and it can feel a little forced.
Shut up tranny (make this pot original)
>>85423600i think friends are about one of the few things consistently worth doing anything and everything for. that's what life is about, to me. even in your scenario, your family are your friends.>>85423613i want to think i make myself visible and try a lot, approach people a lot, initiate conversations a lot. its easier to say people should do that online but you look past the face people online here are in different time zones, phases of life, needs and interests.. blanket "find x" groups dont work because of how disparate we are. fine for acquaintances, but not so much for deeper, closer friends and confidantes. you touch on it yourself at the end, there's no chemistry if you cast a wide net and it feels forced
don't worry they're not friends with each other eitherthey're usually a bunch of retards enmeshed with some narcissist all posturing with each other
>>85424106No, my family would be my family. Friends are just a sad stand-in for family. Friends aren't a thing in natural human societies. Everyone in your tribe was either related to you by blood or married to your blood kin.
>>85424115ive had inside looks.. while i dont doubt what you say is real, a lot of friend groups and such are genuine. some arent. but some are. i envy those who have it
