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Just keep self improooving boyim!!
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Unirionically do keep self improving, just dont let other retards and women define what "improvement" means for you.
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>>85432174
He's a redditor normalfag and you're a zoomer retard. Neither of you have come to understand the way the world works.

The blackpill is a jumping off point, not the terminus of everything.
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>>85432213
Yeah, it's deeply personal. It will always been unsatisfying if you do it for other people instead of yourself. A lot of the blackpill is bullshit. The initial observations have some weight, but how the blackpill generalizes and acts like there's just nothing you can do about it, is wrong.
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the only time the blackpill is nonsense is when it is strawmanned
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>>85432213
Based
>>85432222
Giga based and nice quads

IMO improvement only ever works long term when it actually is for deeply personal reasons. I'd much prefer to be what I want to be and not what others expect me to be
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>>85432174
>genetic predestination
those are betabuxxers. I do not claim money cannot get you sex or women, just that it cannot get you love or attraction. OP makes a logical mistake here and assumes having women means they're attracted to you.

>chad
OP just doesn't make any sense here, women did notice him just didn't recognize him as henry cavill, i'm sure.

>80/20
it's not just okcupid reddit sama. that some women find more men attractive does not change the effect this has on men as a group. also all of those attractivenesses are the same. "romantically attracted to after 6 months" is called "betabux."

>hypergamy
OP again makes no sense here, attractiveness is not purely relative. also does the "everyone i don't like is the same person thing". women care about multiple things sure. hypergamy has nothing to do with what kind of men she's going for whether they're handsome or rich or whatever, it just has to do with her only wanting a small percentage of men or being very willing to leave her man for a better one. individual people will make different claims as to what women prioritize, so some will talk more about looks hypergamy or this or that but this doesn't change whether she is acting hypergamously.

>don't be a retard
sure yeah
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>>85432221
>The blackpill is a jumping off point, not the terminus of everything.

I like what you said, recognising constraints isn't the same thing as surrendering agency to them.
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>>85432259
Why do you all ignore that men cheat at the same rates as women? That's arguably more damaging than just leaving, or as you all call it, monkeybranching.
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>>85432213
You'll know if you've actually improved if people start giving you unsolicited attention, respect, and affection.

Anyone who's been consciously a loser knows how easy it is to be invisible or actively shunned. If you take the time to hear testimony of people who did make it, they always mention how others' behavior towards them was like night and day.
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>>85432335
Just shower until you grow taller and your bone structure changes, nbd
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>>85432222
You *are* improving for other people. The quality of your life is determined by how much other people like you and what they are willing to do for you, to make you happy and your life better.

Doing it for others' approval *is* doing it for yourself. And you will feel and enjoy the benefits.

You're parroting outdated obsolete ignorant platitudes. Unless you plan to go live in the woods, then yes your quality of life depends upon the people in your environment and how they view you.
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>>85432335
>people start giving you unsolicited attention, respect, and affection.
people's opinion is not the measure of value, it only is for retarded normies like you
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>>85432228
Newfags and normalfags don't actually know what the blackpill is. Even the blackpill as Eggman presented it in his video series is relatively half-backed and misguided compared to what all we know now a decade on, thanks in no small part to women constantly telling on themselves and the MGTOW lineage of creators farming content out of it.

But ultimately yes none of this would have been possible without conversations first happening on this board a decade ago. And 97% of people currently engaged in this discourse will never have any clue of that.
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>>85432246
>IMO improvement only ever works long term when it actually is for deeply personal reasons.
That's incorrect.

"Improvement only works" when you finally commit and dedicate yourself to having it. Most losers never even get that far, to the point of wanting nothing more than to improve your life, that you will *actually* start doing whatever it takes. If you don't value the envisioned endgoal over your current meager comfort, then any amount of action you take towards it will indeed fizzle.

>I'd much prefer to be what I want to be and not what others expect me to be
you don't want to be a loser but that is implicitly already what you're choosing to be and accepting as "who you are"
you are too attached to a failing identity despite the fact it has not yielded you the life you actually want
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>>85432359
I suggest you read full posts before you respond to them, you adhd brained retard. You might learn something. You will definitely have a fuller understanding of what is actually being communicated.
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>>85432259
Practically speaking you will never amass enough money to overcome your appearance no matter how hard you work.
>but jeff bez-
You won't.
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>>85432342
If you need to hard-maxx, that is literally an option that exists.

There are very few people for whom better is functionally impossible. There are many pea-brained defeatists who believe themselves amongst that number; or convince themselves they are because their fragile ego won't allow them to accept that it's been their own laziness primarily holding them back.
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>>85432393
This. Lookism is law.

Genuine Burning Desire is not found in a vault of cash.

Humans are visual creatures. Love starts from the looks.
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>>85432269
It's exceedingly rare that someone on here gets it like you do. Keep using your brain.
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>>85432404
No, retard, the fact is you won't get a vault of cash.
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>>85432259
Chad is real. It's a temporary state but you really wouldn't believe it if I told you. I know a 40yo Chad sleeping with 5 different girls in their early 20s
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>>85432420
I don't think you understood that post, coming at this with an irrelevant retort.
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>>85432514
I have noticed some people starting to doubt Chad's existence simply because of so many ignorant larpers claiming the title inappropriately and so few zoomers actually being chads compared to the generations before them, showing a rise in dysgenics and anti-socialization. Chad is a product of both inherent beauty and competency and positive social reinforcement since birth, which have decreasingly existed.
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>>85432529
Yeah Chad is extremely real. I've known a few. One looked like a football player with a male model face... Casually toured with a famous female musician before getting married to a millionairesse. Guy had no money and no cares. Very nice dude.
Another was a literally Calvin Klein model. Eventually went gay. He has any girl he wanted
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>>85432612
If you like dudes you're definitionally not a chad, no matter if you look like this.
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>>85432335
you're one of the "other retards" he was referring to
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>>85433400
99% of you will never even think about the definition of improvement, let alone come up with one.
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>>85432174
It's funny they think being a 40 year old virgin somehow gives them credibility lol
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>>85432349
That's only one side of it. Obviously it matters, but you can't ignore that you absolutely improve your quality of life by working towards the things that are actually fulfilling. The things YOU decide are fulfilling. The things YOU decide are worthwhile. You have to deconstruct everything you were once told and build something new. It's not platitudes.
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>>85432349
External locus of control slave mentality nigger brain generated this
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>>85433473
>The things YOU decide are fulfilling.
Pussy, cuddles
The things YOU decide are worthwhile.
Vagina, massages
I'm not a larper bro
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>>85433473
This autist makes loads of money and gets millions of followers by being a spergy train enthusiast but at the end of the day he still has achieved a living, fame, and regular sex:

https://youtube.com/shorts/lvFs7rQaNKc

The means don't matter, the end does, and it is all the same for every man.
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>>85433821
*https://youtube.com/watch?v=lvFs7rQaNKc
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>>85433505
>"master mentality"
>not an "external locus of control"
in both instances, other people are denoted as intrinsically necessary
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>>85432174
>some of
Of course. Even the most extreme, absurd, and horrifying truth can be exaggerated a little further.
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>>85432221
This. Recognizing how fucked things are should not be incentive to screw your life worse.
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>>85432213
Improvement means having sex. If you don't get that as a guarantee, there is no point in trying
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>>85433917
These guys have been trying to dry swallow the whitepill but don't realize it's full of old and half-baked ingredients that miss out on modern discoveries, such as the actual real prevalence of lookism and the extreme sexuality of humans.

They try to push such ideas as self-validation as if self-validation translates to desirability for relationships in itself. Ideas that revolve around essentially finding ways to cope with an unhappy situation rather than identifying exactly what you want and how to get it, no matter if they seem shallow and unrealistic.



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