I'm starting to realize that there is far more dignity in just paying for sex from bad bitches straight up that going through all the effort and humiliation rituals to be rejected by mid girls repeatedly.
>>85448339I can't get a horny for women who aren't beautiful and with white skin because I think about the potential of The offspring and I'm like damn this would be some half gook hybrid thing that would suffer because of how it looks and then I instantly lose my boner
>>85448339I do find the female anatomy interesting of when she is arched though thinking about the parts and their purposes and how it forms together into a form that our brain registers as sexual
I've had high end escorts and I've had $10-20 hookers. Literally no difference pussy is pussy. I've seen hookers sexier than high end
>>85448339It's a cheaper option, but I wouldn't call it dignified. It would be far more dignified and righteous to remove foidkind from your life entirely and replace them with your imagination, sex toys, AI, etc
>>85448339>wish my future wife had never been in this position to be honest.
>>85448371>It would be far more dignified and righteous to remove foidkind from your life entirely and replace them with your imagination, sex toys, AI, etcTrue. But if we're comparing conventional dating and tricking, tricking is more dignified by miles.
>>85448339I agree, even if I wouldn't go to a prostitute.If the average woman is already a whore, but one that expects you to wine and dine her (+ passing her dozens of requirements) while looking mid at best...why not just pay for it? It's not like normal foids will give you the most passionate and romantic experience, she will probably just lay in there and take it.I still think that wealthy bastards got the best gig tho: sugar dating is clearly the supreme option if you have the cash for it.
>>85448434Yeah I'm not even saying this a trick, I just use porn since its free. But I look at a thread like the how to get women gen on adv and its so ridiculous the shit these guys are going through trying to get crumbs of mid pussy.
I get an escort from time to time. I respect hookers. I appreciate their honesty
i respect hookers as well. so many of them get raped daily and they cant even do anything. what are they going to do tell the police? i lived in skidrow and the stories i heard were horrific. blacks love beating the shit out of and raping hookers
>>85448619Wouldn't they enjoy that? They probably just take money from meek timid incels and call the cops on them.
>>85449045Incels dont have sex. Incels arent hooking up with prostitutes. Why is that so hard to understand
>>85449054Then who is? Why would you bother if you can just go Outside and pick up a girl at will?
>>85448371>It would be far more dignified and righteous to remove foidkind from your life entirely and replace them with your imagination, sex toys, AI, etcNo that makes you an asexual cuck. Join us mongers. We can build a sex empire. You are either with me or against me.
>>85449083People that are fucking hookers are dudes who can get pussy without hookers. Incels wouldnt be incels if they could talk to women. Theyre not talking to hookers online and meeting up. I feel like the internet doesnt even know what incels are. 90% of incels arent misogynistic, theyre not women haters. Incels couldnt get laid in a morgue.
What they don't tell you is if you actually love a woman you won't mind paying for stuff for her and if she loves you she'll pay for a lot of stuff herself and for you.
>>85449125>People that are fucking hookers are dudes who can get pussy without hookersLolwut no I can't you silly retard
>>85449131I knew the first part but the second is a bit of a surprise. I'll never know what that's like of course.
>>85449132>Lolwut no I can't you silly retardWait until you see what the average hooker fuckers look like>lolwutfuck off sems
>>85449125>Incels couldnt get laid in a morgue.Yeah hence why I said if one tried to see a hooker she'd just take his money and have him arrested.
>>85448339>there is far more dignity in just paying for sexDignity and sex are only a small part of it. Genuine relationships are what matter.
>>85448339There isn't though because you're reducing what sex actually is in your mindStraight up hylic shenanigans ngl sorry for being mean about it
It's how it was for like 99% of history: men would just go to the local whorehouse and get to experience a fat nut with a smoking hot young woman. Old men, young men, clergymen, married men, paupers, kings. If you had 2 coppers to rub together you could experience a brief moment of intimacy and sexual release then get on with your life.Nowadays we have men going 30, 40, 50 years without ever having felt a woman's skin against theirs, getting wound tighter and tighter every day, growing more and more insane with their lives consumed by this lack of intimacy and release.>just jerk off to a screen broPatently it's not the same since societal tensions only increase despite the use of pornography with masturbation. Sex is the 'real thing'. Porn is not.
I'm a lazy volcel and recently went to Japan and started fucking escorts, lost my virginity to one. Life was fucking peak bro. Sex with a cute girl to start off the day then go about exploring the city. Renewed my will to live for a while then I got home into the same routine and I feel like killing myself. Yeah I really couldnt be bothered trying to go on dates to appease a mid girl and getting to know a girl when I can just pay to fuck a hot one and get on with life.
>>85450017If I could visit a girl like this 4 times a month I would actually contribute to society
>>85448349I think the same but about unattractive east European girls, I don't even look at gooks.
>>85448339most of these big dick niggas cant cum for shit wtf was that
>>85450017Imagine she's on her knees licking your nuts
>>85448349What a low vibrational narcissistic post>>85448369What a low quality postThis board fucking sucks
>>85448339just wait until you discover Pattaya, life will never be the same
>>85450498SEA hookers cant be that great. I don't know what the hype is, they don't look great but are cheap the mileage must be crazy on those girls.
>>85449125Lolwut? After being a virgin for 29 years I started fucking escorts. Learned a lot about sex, even managed to get discounts from some. At my best im mid, but im autistic as fuck and much too inhibited and insecure to seduce a normal woman. 33 years old now, still never fucked anything but escorts. I won't escape it until some girl chooses me. T. Mentalcel
>>85450520>the mileage must be crazy on those girls.They're hookers mate, they're all ran throughPattaya is the hooker world capital, you'll find literally anything and everything there and for a cheap price/free if you're not retarded
>>85450528Even if a girl chooses you, you will likely self sabotage and fuck it up. You're never getting a gf unless you become proactive and start hitting on girls yourself. I'm a mentalcel escortfucker like you and have been chosen by girls in the past, and I never acted on a single opportunity.
>>85448339It's much more humiliating to pay for mid girls who often won't even have sex. Plus it costs more. That hookers are le bad is a psyop pushed by bad actors.
>>85448339Once you give up on "dignity" and all other social constructs, you'll realize it's all just biology. Genes either replicate or they dont, thats it. There is nothing more.
>>85448339You sure about that? Whatever floats your boat. You can argue there is more dignity in it until you get scammed or have post nut clarity (regret) and realize you paid x amount of dollars for a lame encounter and an unfulfilling nut. Most, if not all, hookers/escorts will make you wear a condom. Some of them will have dumbass rules like no touching their tits, only one position. I had this hooker tell me to put my right hand under my head and get irritated and ask me if I spoke english because I didnt know why she was asking something so dumb. She scammed me and then tried to upsell sex by 80 dollars so it was only a handjob and the whole time she was looking from the corner of her eye if I even moved my arm a centimeter. The hand under the head rule was to not touch her tits or anything. You wear a condom, she wants you to finish as quick as possible, she isn't prioritizing your pleasure or experience. She just wants you to cum and leave. I walked out of that retarded experience. I got scammed into only a handjob and I didn't even cum. Shit was mad lame. I could have jerked myself off or found a hooker who actually would have fucked. I don't know if there is more dignity in getting scammed over going on a date with a 5
>tfw have phimosis and deathgripcan't even enjoy sex with escorts properly
>>85450561How severe is it? Any ways around it?
>>85450539That may be true, but i imagine having sex with someone that chose you felt better than any escort? At least the first few times. Maybe it never lasts but i see it as a milestone that might help my confidence a lot. Chances of something only happening one time and never again are lower than something just never happening. So if I ever get chosen that one time, it should be possible to get chosen again. Its a big step up.
>>85450599My frenulum is short so when I'm erect it can't retract past the head which makes getting head/handjobs kinda painful unless the girl is really gentle about it, even then I cant feel much because of the deathgrip. Both issues combined, you feel discomfort rather than pleasure. PIV is good though, only time I can feel something. Cant use lube on the cock, if the foreskin retracts past the head with lube its GG. Also need a condom on for most things to prevent the foreskin retracting too much. The nice part is I can last longer when you fuck (I dont know how to fuck properly) unless the girl has a tight pussy and knows how to cowgirl and extract the cum out quick.
>>85450648Apparently I can fix it with stretching but I'm not sure if I have the discipline for that. There's a small surgery they do to fix it and I might have to get that done, without my parents knowledge somehow lol. The deathgrip is like a 7 or 8/10 problem though in terms of severity. The loss of sensation is really bad, at least I can get hard to fuck women and I'm not a total faggot like I was worried I would be which is why I'm glad I started seeing escorts. I need the discipline to fix my life, fucking escorts revealed all my sexual problems and I'm glad I did it.
>>85450648>>85450662You could stretch it carefully during sex/masturbation and while showering. Doesn't require much extra effort. I did that for some months and now i can easily retract all the foreskin while flaccid which i struggled before. I can't retract much while erect though in the way i used to be able to but everything still works fine and feels pleasurable. Some people are anatomically built with a shorter frenulum and tigther foreskin, it can be natural and doesn't necessarily have to be a problem unless it hurts, bleeds, leads to scarring and significantly disrupts your sex life
how do i get rid of deathgrip?seeing whores is great, gets it out of the system and i feel good for a month lol
>>85450942Abstain for a few weeks, or abstain for a few days and then force yourself to be hold it gently and jerk slowly. Joi can help
I honestly wish I had the balls to see one. Everytime I get the urge, I look up ones in places like Nevada where I know it's legal and skim their photos on the websites. But then as I'm looking through (despite knowing these girls have seen and dealt with everything under the sun) I get a deep sense of shame and go with the excuse of "you don't have time off of work or the money anyway"
>>85450992If you ever have the money, fly to asia, specifically pattaya.
>>85451009I like East Asians, not Hindi mutts
>>85451029Thais are east asian, incase you didnt know
>>85448339Been saying this for forever. If I wasnt able to get any without paying for it I would just pay for it. I dont get the whole no they have be physically attracted to me shit. What difference does it make if they want you for money or looks or status they still see you as a means to an end as a utility so fuck em literally.
>>85450558I would say it more dignified because you at least got action out of it, which is no guarantee going on a date with a mid.
There's way more dignity in paying for sex than trying to date in the modern era as a man that's not good looking enough to get "chosen" on a dating app, it's not even up for discussion. No, being pity fucked by some mid woman that was worn down by your completely one-sided effort does not "feel better" than sex with a hooker you pay for, that a dirty lie from fags. Your entire existence as a sub-9 male is treated as disrespectful to all woman.
>>85450531>for a cheap price/free if you're not retardedCan you give me a guide please? I am retarded
>>85448369I don't get what is even the difference, other than looks. I'm not going to sit over a glass of wine talking with her nor am I interested in "how comfortable she makes me feel" or whatever those so called high end hookers advertise. I'm paying for the right to shove my cock inside her rectum, that is the entirety of my interaction with her.
>>85450531>you'll find literally anything and everything thereMy taste is older (40+) curvy-chubby women. Sex act wise my kink is anal only. I've been to Pattaya and I didn't see a single one that fits my tastes, but admittedly I wasn't really scouting for prostitutes as it was more of a family trip (we toured other parts of thailand too).
>>85452280One of the worst tastes I've seen in a while. NTR addicts have better tastes than you. You want to stick it up the wrinkly bum of old expired fat women.
>>85452298>You want to stick it up the wrinkly bum of old expired fat women.
>>85452280Just outside of Pattaya is Jomtien, this is your heaven if you like them older. Central Pattaya is for young ladies, Jomtien is for the retirees
>>85452494Do you have any more advice for sex tourism in Pattaya? Also, how much do your trips cost in total for say, 2 weeks? Where can I find out more?
>>85450873I will try to keep up with stretching. Did you use any steroid cream?
>>85453440Nope I did without. I heard creams could be useful in certain cases but it's not always needed. Plus i'm skeptical towards prescription drugs and that sort of stuff so i'd feel paranoid applying cream on the genitals unless i really had to. Luckily it worked out just fine for me. Good luck
>>85451072and other lies the thai tell themselves
>>85450531>you'll find literally anything and everything thereyou can have any girl you want as long as it's a short squat nigger nosed greasy yellow beast
>>85452494Thanks man, I'll keep that in mind. Do you know if they let you bang raw? No point in paying and needing to use a condom, I can fuck a piece of rubber for free.
I tried paying for sex but the girl changed her mind last minute so Im still an incel virgin
>>85448339And you're right, OP; we're all essentially paying for it anyway, you've just gotten to the point of realizing that you'd rather pay up-front and be done with it. Eventually, you'll move to the next stage beyond that as well.>just don't get caught; it's illegal for whatever reason
>>85454990>girl changed her mind last minuteWhat did she say
>>85454999That she was having a moral conflict about the deal. She didnt elaborate further but I guess she is not a prostitute and felt awkward, maybe even ashamed, about fucking for money.I asked her to think it twice, but I dont want to push it and I dont know how to seduce her. Either way I asked her out a second time (the first one was to meet each other) because I enjoyed the dating experience and I also need more experience for the future
>>85454646Of course, most will let you bang raw. Especially if you get to know them a bit first to earn trust.
yeah but surely there's a difference between paying and having someone actually want to do that with you
I want to pay an escort to sit on my face and take a fat stinky poop in my mouth but I'm scared of contracting a disease. Not joking btw.
>>85450325i mean you can , but you need money
>>85456984It needs to be simple
>>85456092I had an escort sit on my face and use me to get off with her sextoy, at one point when she was about to climax she pressed her ass on my face really hard and I couldn't breathe anymore for like 20 seconds. Idk about the scat stuff though but you do you
>>85457225She suggested it btw, I wasnt big into facesitting or anything lol.
>>85456065>yeah but surely there's a difference between paying and having someone actually want to do that with youOf course. But when you factor in the 99 rejections, dates, and and all the effort it takes to secure even a average girl you've already endured far more humiliation than a typical John.
>>85456065>having someone actually want to do that with youUnless you're a Chad, this isn't an option. For 95% of men out there sex is transactional in one way or another. Even for Chad the girl partly spreads her legs for the status of being fucked by a Chad, or for the delusion of having a chance of locking down a Chad and gain status that way.
>>85448362I never realized the vagina expands inwards the same way a penis expands upwards. apparently the nature of the cavity and the sensitivity of the cervix play a role in enjoying intercourse for women. it is also fascinating looking at engorged clits and seeing essentially the head of a penis (or maybe more precise to say the penis is just an enshrouded giant clit?)i'm way too autistic to have sex man.
>>85448339I agree. I'm kind of done with the concept of romantic love. Clearly I don't have the looks or height required.I see hiring whores the same as hiring "actresses". They act and show you a good time.
