I live in a van. People ridicule me and think I'm an absolute loser.This is because western people define success through money, status, and especially stuff.You need a big house to be "cool" and a big house needs to be filled with stuff. Then you have too much stuff so you buy storage lockers. At that point there's no meaning to what you're doing. You're just doing what companies want you to do, defining your life through pointless crap you don't need.I used to be that guy. I wasn't always poor, I was a 6 fig guy when I was 22. Now I'm almost 40 and all I have is a van and what I need to survive and fix my van (mostly Ryobi one plus tools).It's satisfying. Every little thing I own feels more valuable. Having less makes you value things more and it's a great feeling.Like, we should all probably stop using mainstream social media and migrate to super small sites. Having less content means you focus on it better and appreciate it more. In 2002 you would of saved every single picture and flash animation online because content was scarce. Now you have endless content, but do you ever even enjoy it?
I mean it's probably because you smell and have to go to Walmart to take a shit
>>85456867BOOM you showed OP. Serves him right for being a smelly POORFAG peasant Not an aristocrat like us, right?
The Chris Farley bit used to be some derisive thing. Minimalism and mobility is ideal though, you don't have to worry about neighbors. You can go anywhere.
gen z people are the laziest, dumbest and most superficial generationthey will never understand minimalismThey're hardwired to want more, more, more...More videos, more sex, more likes, more algorithms, more bloat, more AI assistants, more lootboxes, more horse armor...And these morans don't even understand they're like this because they were brainwashed.People over 30 are so much smarter than people under 30
>>85456863>This is because western people define success through money, status, and especially stuff.I thought these are the traits of asiansMaybe every race and cultures are the same
>>85456881AI is such worthless bullshit
>>85456870Desiring an indoor toilet is very bourgeois
>>85456882Every culture that's dependent on rampant capitalism.They need to teach the citizens to consumeMinimalists are extremely dangerous to the system. People stop buying, companies like Amazon go belly up
>>85456889Pooping outdoors is usually not pleasant. But fapping outdoors is.So you lose some, you win some.
>>85456863Bruh, if you're living out of a van at 40, you've failed. Even more so if all you have is that van and a few fucking tools. I'm definitely one of those people judging you and for good reason- you're better off dead.
>>85456915You're just defensive because your stuff-oriented lifestyle was challenged.You don't want to admit to yourself that you're a product of capitalist brainwashing.You've lived your whole life believing in ads. Then you see someone who doesn't need that, and points out it's bad for you, so you try to negate his point by stripping him of his human worth.Classic argumentative fallacy. You'd think anons in 2026 would do better but you're obviously gen z. I can tell.
>>85456863>western people define success through money, status, and especially stuff.
>>85456915>you can't be right if you live out of a van>you can't be right if you're unemployed>you can't be right if you're gay>you can't be right if you're black>you can't be right if you're right wing / left wingChildren think like this
>>85456927People who got sucked into this lie get hostile if they see a person who didn'tIt's easier to shut him up than admit he's rightI've been unempoyed my whole life, regret nothing
>>85456924>words words words words>you're obviously gen zI'm 39 dumb fuck lol. I have a house and property etc et al. Didn't need whatever globalhomo you think you've avoiding by having a fucking house retard. Get fucked (even more) hobo.>>85456932Living out of your van must make you retarded, this shit wasn't even a complete thought. Least children can think, you obviously can't. Explains the "I'm not an NPC mantra", you are literally the broke mentally ill van smelly NPC like lmfao
>>85456915>you've failed. I wanna kill you.Ok what did I do to you personally that prompted this hostile attack?How is my lifestyle your loss in anyway? It's the opposite. You have less competition now that I'm out of the game
>>85456957Your entire post is just a big ad hominem with zero arguments.I'm sick of this website. I thought this was for smart people but everyone is like>lmao FR FR rekt retard fag kill urslefWhy do you INSIST on turning every good thread into a pissing match of high school insults?Please tell me if you're so much smarter than me.
>>85456960I want less trash in my way, obviously. You act like you're not costing the real players in life anything, but life is even easier for us if you're dead. So die faster please, it's not like anybody needs an unemployed van faggot not even your family lol
>>85456965>Please tell me if you're so much smarter than me.Welcome to 4chan retard, also because you're a loser; reminds me of the homeless I "bump" with my truck on the way home at 2am
>>85456969>sweeeet I think I found someone I can push into suicide through text to make me forget about my deadend lifeOh you're one of these people. Totally the behavior of a successful and happy 39-year-old.If you're so tough, let's meet up IRL or you can share your name and information in this thread.If you want me dead you will have to do more than the lowest possible effort which is an anonymous post online where you have nothing to lose and no responsibility. Only weak fucks do that. You're not weak, are you?I'm literally up for a 1 v 1 fight in the streets.
>>85456987Nah, you live in a van, why would I fight you? You've already lost. Kill yourself because it's already over for you, not because your feelings got mixed into it because an anon called you out for what you are- failed human trash
>>85456997You're weaker and dumber than me though.You're not 39 and you haven't achieved anything moderately close to "success" in life, it's obvious from how you post.For instance you're basically posting the same post over and over again, and most likely will do it again to deflect my argument.Anyway congrats for taking down a perfectly good vanlife thread. That's the pinnacle of your day I guess. You're pathetic and you HATE yourself, that's why you project it on others.
>>85457005>You're not 39Ah bless you anon, I feel the years melting away, time to go join the gen z kids then>dead threadNobody was coming to brag about living in their tent- why the fuck you think your van is a palace we'll never understand. Really took no effort, the $350 I made in 8 hours took more effort obviously. Easy mode, smoking a bowl and shitting on the homeless online is pretty good end to the day
>>85457027First off, only the absolute weakest people need to inflict violence online or display their dominance on an anonymous imageboard. Strong people would do this in real life.Second, smoking weed is a tell-tale sign of retarded trash. You've lost.
>>85457031>mentally ill van posting acting like even if I gave him my H O M E address he'd do shit>snoreEnjoy your van buddy, gonna hit this bong a few more times and enjoy a shower. You know. In my fucking house. Kek what a loser ahaha good luck, kill yourself it's worth it
>>85456863At least you aren't in debt.
I agree with everything you said about materialism, and I would add mindless consumerism too, but I wouldn't live in a van, it's way too cramped.
>>85457047Dude stop baiting already it's too obvious and looks annoying
>>85457074At least he keeps bumping this thread for freeMaybe worthwhile people will find the thread this way
I'm about to start living in my car. Fuck wageslaving just for a huge percentage of my paycheck to go towards someone else's mortgage and taxes, completely down the drain
Only losers live in houses because it means they couldn't survive in the wild without one.Imagine going to work. I dont need to work because I dont need a house to surviveI eat berries and hunt bears
>>85457079Yeah but the tough guy in this thread thinks you're a loser if you don't do that.Even if you dont want a house, you must get one to avoid being called a loser!You wanna be a cool normal person, right? Get the mortgage, goy.
>>85457083>it means they couldn't survive in the wildNeither can you.
>>85457097Yea but at least I WANT to be capable of doing that.Most people just cope and claim that being dependent on housing somehow makes them better because "hobos are losers".You're just rationalizing your dependence on modern comfortsI dont wanna be dependent on anything
>>85457086He hasn't escaped employim mentality
The fact that this thread prompted death threats from anons is proof that OP is rightHe predicted it in his original postHe said people would get angry, and they did
>>85456863If you truly cared about giving up materialism you'd give the van away and become a monk. The homeless hippie gypsy larp is just another form of materialism.
>>85456863I like having stuff. The memories I've accumulated playing video games, watching anime are the only tangible and joyful things i have left. I'll never have a family, reproduce, and will spend the rest of my days slaving for shekels. Why not just surround myself with things that I find cool and bring nostalgia.
>>85456863The van life seems so comfy, I have travelled in a hatchback and while cramped I always felt like if I had something bigger it would be perfect for me
>>85457144Van life is better than people think.A medium sized van has more than enough space for sleeping and lurking 4chan on a laptop and that's what we do anyway.But you also get to spend a fuckton of time outdoors breathing fresh air and touching grass which is good for mental health.
I'm 32 and never once cared about any kind of material "success" beyond the bare minimum or having things for my hobbies which are making music and gaming which are cheap.Not only do material possessions not appeal to me, but the thought of having all this stuff that I have to maintain actively discourages me from it.
the less you need, the more you have.
>>85457193I'm the same.And I also dont see the appeal of social media. I don't see why I should watch endless videos and mingle with a billion people digitallyI just dont care about any of that and I dont understand why post people doMaybe they're more easily impressionable
>>85456863Nice, that's a pretty popular opinion believe it or not. You living in a van doesn't have much weight in a discussion about materialism or consumerism though. You might actually be materially more dependent when living in a van rather than an apartment.
>>85457229It's about survival. The system can more easily take away your apartment / house than your van. We'll see an increase in homeless people in the future for sure.Also, a van life person is more likely to survive without any housing at all than someone who's never had to leave their house.
Vanlife is still consumerist. No doubt better than city/suburb life but they are exactly as fragile as the typical normalfag. It can make sense if you are a high paid wagie. If you make $200k/yr but expenses are under $10k/yr then after taxes you can save like $100k/yr. That's retirement in five years since you just need about 10 acres . /biz/ likes to claim that because one year a fund returned 14% that is the same thing as 100 year average return, so I guess you only need $75k invested to live off your portfolio. I figure there may be ups and downs so I'd want to have wiggle room and only draw 3 or 4% in case there's a year stocks actually go down in the next 40 years or so I have left. $300k is much comfier for a retirement. It's not like there's no warning signs. Pick up a part time job or work full time for two or three months if things look sketchy, that's enough to earn a years worth of expenses. If it's a proper crash you could even work on purpose to catch a falling knife while the stocks are at a discount.Money will probably lose all meaning once self sufficiency is obtained. Starlink is $1.4k/yr. Taxes on 10 acres maybe $600. Have a cell phone for luxury, $300/yr. What else is there to buy? Maybe every few years expand or replace your hard drives so nothing is lost. No longer working you'll probably do cool shit just for fun and people would be willing to buy artisan underwater woven baskets or hand carved wooden menstrual cups or whatever you do whire goofing off.
>>85457103>You're just rationalizing your dependence on modern comfortsIt's you actually doing that. Could I live on a van? Yes, but I see no reason to do so when I can afford a house. Beyond that, I don't like materialism and consumerism either but that does not mean I can't have a comfortable place.
>>85457229Also, plenty of people are already pretty minimal in terms of what they actually buy. I haven't bought a single non-essential thing in about two years; basically just food, rent, the gym, and transportation. So I don't think the type of home someone lives in is necessarily a very good proxy for how materialistic or consumerist they are.
I'm not necessarily totally anti material. But I've bore witness to so many people in my life, especially in family who are by all metrics "successes" whether it be material, career etc whose lives are total disasters relationally, spiritually, simply being content in day to day life etc. For many people they get indoctrinated into this way of thinking that if they just have enough stuff or money then they'll be safe in this life, while totally neglecting everything else
>>85457125>YOU HAVE TO GO THE EXTREME OR YOURE JUST, LIKE, LARPING xD
Materialism is bad btw i recommend RYOBI brand tools Make It Real / Reimagine with RYOBI
>>85457237>The system can more easily take away your apartment / house than your vanThats completely wrong tho your van can be towed and impounded for any bullshit reason cops make up
>>85456863what do you do all day? I assumr you dont work because otherwise you would have more things. I greatly enjoy not working but that is only because i have money, a computer, a bicycle, a car to drive places, things to do. If you are on bare minimum isnt every day incredibly boring?
Being seen as a normal, contributing, functioning adult is more important to me than the money.Without a job you are seen as a bummy ass crackhead leech to literally everyone, it's hard to date and do anything or even meet people.With that being said, this work/life balance thing these places are trying to push are an absolute joke. If you work 40 hours a week, there is no life, its all work.These places don't factor in commutes to anything. You're actually working 12 hour days if you don't have a car due to the mass transit infrastructure being a piece of shit, barely even funded service that can't handle putting vehicles on the routes, so each route has like a 30 minute wait, if you're lucky.
>>85456863If you truely lived at peace with your current situation you wouldn't be looking for validation on fucking r9k of all places.
>>85457562Not op but this is such a midwit line
>>85457565Heres your (you) you desperately wanted with your low effort bait line.
>>85457074>>85457076Kek, holy shit, look at this homeless hugbox- The OP really sat here for an hour or two when I left to, you know- relax in my motherfuckin H O M E replying to himself to make himself feel like he's not the bottom 10% of society.Ahahaha holy shit it's worse than I thought- killing yourself might be too easy, nah keep posting here on 4chins how you're secretly winning actual fucking keks. Hope your AI bait keeps you smelly AND poor
>>85457576Cope phaggot. You can simply want to discuss something
>>85458930It's faggot, you goofy fucking faggot.
>>85456863I wanna live in a van, but even the work required to sustain that is too much
